Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-04 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/04/2012 15:55, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > Seeing as sudo plays a big part of this No ... not only is sudo not a necessary component, it shouldn't be involved at all. The feature works on debian/ubuntu for regular userspace commands. Doug -- This .signature sanitized

install-prompt for missing features (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-04 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/04/2012 15:57, Yuri wrote: > On 07/04/2012 15:08, Doug Barton wrote: >> First, I agree that being able to turn it off should be possible. But I >> can't help being curious ... why would you *not* want a feature that >> tells you what to install if you type a com

Re: install-prompt for missing features (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-04 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/04/2012 16:41, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 03:59:29PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 07/04/2012 15:55, Jason Hellenthal wrote: >>> Seeing as sudo plays a big part of this >> >> No ... not only is sudo not a necessary component

Re: Better error messages for command not found (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-04 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/04/2012 17:30, Tim Kientzle wrote: > On Jul 4, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 04, 2012 at 03:59:29PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >>> On 07/04/2012 15:55, Jason Hellenthal wrote: >>>> Seeing as sudo plays a big part of this &

Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-04 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/04/2012 21:08, Brett Glass wrote: > At 04:03 PM 7/4/2012, Doug Barton wrote: > >> Other than that, if whoever actually pushes all the rocks uphill to make >> the installer more modular in this regard decides to include djbdns, >> more power to them. :) > > I&

Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-05 Thread Doug Barton
blem. I appreciate the people who've spoken up as to why they wouldn't want to use it, but I haven't seen anything yet that says "having this feature is a universally bad idea." Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection __

Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-07 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/07/2012 14:16, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > On 3. Jul 2012, at 12:39 , Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >> Doug Barton writes: >>> The correct solution to this problem is to remove BIND from the base >>> altogether, but I have no energy for all the whinging

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-07 Thread Doug Barton
or hacker task" for a motivated group. If those don't do it for you, ports/dns/bind-tools already exists. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mail

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-07 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/07/2012 16:34, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On 7. Jul 2012, at 23:17 , Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 07/07/2012 14:16, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >>> >>> On 3. Jul 2012, at 12:39 , Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: >>> >>>> Doug Barton writes: >>>&g

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
weak +1 for keeping something > in the base system, but I'll be the first to admit it is a second or third > tier argument at best. With the proper ports infrastructure, this issue goes away. Meanwhile, we're already in basic agreement that importing unbound into the base is a g

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/08/2012 01:03, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > > On 8. Jul 2012, at 02:44 , Warner Losh wrote: > >> >> On Jul 7, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Garrett Wollman wrote: >>> < said: >>> BIND in the base today comes with a full-featured local resolver configuration, which I'm confident that Dag-Erling can

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/08/2012 01:07, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On 7. Jul 2012, at 23:45 , Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 07/07/2012 16:34, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >>> On 7. Jul 2012, at 23:17 , Doug Barton wrote: > >>>> Other than authoritative DNS, what features does unbound lack t

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
rational discussion about it. I hope that changes. Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/07/2012 17:47, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 2012-07-07 16:45, Doug Barton wrote: >> Also re DNSSEC integration in the base, I've stated before that I >> believe very strongly that any kind of hard-coding of trust anchors as >> part of the base resolver setup is a b

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/08/2012 10:10, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > From first impression it seems that drill(1) has a syntax that > leaves something to be desired like the eased use of host or dig. So once again, if you need the exact capabilities of ISC host and dig,

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/08/2012 10:43, Garrett Wollman wrote: > < said: > >> Neither of which has any relevance to the actual root zone ZSK, which >> could require an emergency roll tomorrow. > > Surely that's why there's a separate KSK. The ZSK can be rolled at > any time. The ZSK is rolled on a regular schedul

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/08/2012 13:25, Gabor Kovesdan wrote: > On 2012.07.08. 1:17, Doug Barton wrote: >> Other than authoritative DNS, what features does unbound lack that you >> want? > [Picking up a random mail from the thread.] > > Other than the functionality, when we replace something

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/08/2012 07:41, Dan Lukes wrote: >> The ideal, long-term solution is to re-think what "The Base" is, and >> give users more flexibility at install time. > > Flexibility is double-edged sword. > > Feel free to replace one resolver with another resolver (but don't do it > so often, please). Ap

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/08/2012 22:43, Avleen Vig wrote: > It would be silly not to keep bind-tools in base. Sounds easy, but not so much in practice. Keeping any of the code doesn't solve the problem of the release cycles not syncing up. And for the vast majority of users needs the tools we will import will be mor

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/08/2012 23:16, Avleen Vig wrote: > On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 07/08/2012 22:43, Avleen Vig wrote: >>> It would be silly not to keep bind-tools in base. >> >> Sounds easy, but not so much in practice. Keeping any of the code >&

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-09 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/09/2012 00:34, Avleen Vig wrote: > On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 07/08/2012 23:16, Avleen Vig wrote: >>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Doug Barton wrote: >>>> On 07/08/2012 22:43, Avleen Vig wrote: >>>>> It

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-09 Thread Doug Barton
for SOHO? You don't need to transition if you don't want to. Just install BIND from the ports. > In particular, if unbound has no authoritative server capabilities, > what suggestions are there for handling the private hosts in a SOHO > environment? Stub and/or forward zones

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-09 Thread Doug Barton
default it does a > database > lookup whenever you type an unrecognised command - to lower the barrier to > entry. Right. > We should also change the base system to remove the most commonly used > tools for doing DNS lookups, to what was the reason again? It's been covered at le

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-09 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/09/2012 06:45, Mark Blackman wrote: > Indeed, 'dig' and 'host' must be present and working as expected > in a minimally installed system. So if you don't like the versions that get imported, install bind-tools from ports. Doug -- This .signatur

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-10 Thread Doug Barton
I've never argued against that. I think you misunderstood my flippant comment below. > On 2012-Jul-09 13:52:15 -0700, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 07/09/2012 13:47, Peter Jeremy wrote: >>> On 2012-Jul-09 14:15:13 +0200, in freebsd-security, "Andrej (Andy) >>> Brodnik&q

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound

2012-07-10 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/09/2012 14:47, Mark Blackman wrote: > I never use '-t' with dig. drill *told* me I should use '-t' > then completely failed to acknowledge I had done so. Have you reported this bug? -- Change is hard. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org maili

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound

2012-07-10 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/09/2012 19:56, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2012-Jul-10 00:40:07 +0200, Dag-Erling Smørgrav > wrote: >> They are sufficiently similar that writing a wrapper that >> supports a significant subset of dig's command-line option and >> uses drill as a

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound (Was: Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-10 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/09/2012 16:45, George Mitchell wrote: > On 07/09/12 17:01, Doug Barton wrote: >> On 07/09/2012 06:45, Mark Blackman wrote: >> >>> Indeed, 'dig' and 'host' must be present and working as expected >>> in a minimally installed system. >

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-10 Thread Doug Barton
ver the network. You can still do that with other solutions, but this is one area where the fact that BIND can do both is a feature. Doug -- Change is hard. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinf

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound

2012-07-10 Thread Doug Barton
On 7/10/2012 4:27 AM, Mark Blackman wrote: > On 10 Jul 2012, at 08:12, Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 07/09/2012 14:47, Mark Blackman wrote: >>> I never use '-t' with dig. drill *told* me I should use '-t' >>> then completely failed to acknowled

Re: FreeBSD 8.3

2012-07-14 Thread Doug Barton
For the OP, make sure you have the latest BIOS. I had a similar problem with vt-x and it was solved by a later BIOS upgrade. hth, Doug -- Change is hard. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: FreeBSD 8.3

2012-07-15 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/15/2012 02:39, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 13:29:59 -0700 > Doug Barton wrote: > >> For the OP, make sure you have the latest BIOS. I had a similar problem >> with vt-x and it was solved by a later BIOS upgrade. > > And *that* solved the problem. The

Re: Resistance to documentation? (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-17 Thread Doug Barton
the first place. Not only is the perception reasonable, but the process of writing out such documentation (different from handbook-style docs, or even man pages) often helps clarify both the actual proposed design, and the current state of things. It's a shame that we don't have a cultur

Re: Resistance to documentation? (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-17 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/17/2012 03:38 PM, Dave Hayes wrote: > On 07/17/12 15:14, Doug Barton wrote: >>> Some sources of this are: I rarely read the handbook >> >> So now that we've discussed *our* shortcomings, let's discuss yours. :) >> Read the handbook. Seriously. >

Is there a reason that xhci isn't mentioned in NOTES in 8-stable?

2012-07-19 Thread Doug Barton
The xhci code in 8-stable works, but it's not mentioned in the NOTES files in sys/conf, sys/i386/conf, or sys/amd64/conf. The module is hooked up in sys/modules/usb/Makefile, and that's how I've been using it so far. Is it not possible to compile this code into the kernel? Doug

Re: Is there a reason that xhci isn't mentioned in NOTES in 8-stable?

2012-07-19 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/19/2012 02:17, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On Thursday 19 July 2012 11:14:42 Doug Barton wrote: >> The xhci code in 8-stable works, but it's not mentioned in the NOTES >> files in sys/conf, sys/i386/conf, or sys/amd64/conf. The module is >> hooked up in sys/module

Re: Is there a reason that xhci isn't mentioned in NOTES in 8-stable?

2012-07-19 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/19/2012 03:29, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: > On Thursday 19 July 2012 11:38:11 Doug Barton wrote: >> On 07/19/2012 02:17, Hans Petter Selasky wrote: >>> On Thursday 19 July 2012 11:14:42 Doug Barton wrote: >>>> The xhci code in 8-stable works, but it's not m

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-01 Thread Doug Barton
t happens; I finally came to the conclusion that they didn't want remote participation to happen, so it won't. That's a shame. If the only large, open project you've ever participated in is FreeBSD, what gets done around here feels "normal" to you. But don't be so

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/02/2012 09:20, Scott Long wrote: > > On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:23 AM, Kevin Oberman > wrote: > >> Doug makes some good points. > > No, he doesn't. Yes I do! (So there) > He and Arnould being argumentative and accusatory > where none of that is warranted

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/02/2012 05:54, David Chisnall wrote: > On 2 Aug 2012, at 05:30, Doug Barton wrote: > >> I used to ask the PTB to provide *some* form of remote >> participation for even a fraction of the events at the dev summit. >> I don't bother asking anymore because year a

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
ne in the room(s). They were told that it wasn't possible to do that. Doug -- I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. -- Edward Everett Hale, (1822 - 1

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/02/2012 10:13, David Chisnall wrote: > On 2 Aug 2012, at 17:46, Doug Barton wrote: > >> Well that's a start. :) And where was this availability announced? >> If I missed it, that's on me. But providing remote access that you >> don't tell people

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
BTW, for those who'd like to get a flavor of what the IETF model looks like, the Vancouver meeting is in process now: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/84/agenda.html Feel free to join in as a lurker. -- I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/02/2012 10:34, Doug Barton wrote: > BTW, for those who'd like to get a flavor of what the IETF model looks > like, the Vancouver meeting is in process now: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/84/agenda.html > > Feel free to join in as a lurker. Sorry, this ag

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
ming from a newly elected core team member. Doug -- I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. -- Edward Everett H

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
uld be a good long-term investment that would benefit a lot of people, especially in comparison to the money set aside for travel grants which is now going begging. Doug -- I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I can

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
reeBSD community as a whole. Doug -- I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what I can do. -- Edward Everett Hale, (1822 - 1909)

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-02 Thread Doug Barton
e supportive. What I'm hearing so far is defensiveness, and an attempt to focus the discussion on me. Neither is helpful. :) Acknowledging that this is a problem that needs to be solved does not imply that by not solving it you personally have failed in some way. I apologize if anything I've w

Re: On cooperative work [Was: Re: newbus' ivar's limitation..]

2012-08-05 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/02/2012 12:18, David Chisnall wrote: > Thank you for your thoughtful reply, You too ... I let some time go by to see what others had to say. I think it's disappointing that more people aren't concerned about this issue. > On 2 Aug 2012, at 19:33, Doug Barton wrote: > &

Re: How to diagnose system freezes?

2012-08-06 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/31/2012 17:02, Yuri wrote: > One of my 9.1-BETA1 systems periodically freezes. If sound was playing, > it would usually cycle with a very short period. And system stops being > sensitive to keyboard/mouse. Also ping of this system doesn't get a > response. Just for fun, have you tried switch

Re: dtraceall.ko with old nfsclient

2012-08-06 Thread Doug Barton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/31/2012 09:48, Fabian Keil wrote: > I think guessing that INET and INET6 are available is a lot more > reasonable than doing the same for the external NFS modules. FYI, there has been considerable work done to ensure that INET6 works without I

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound

2012-08-20 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/06/2012 13:23, Vitaly Magerya wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: >> On 07/07/2012 16:33, Garrett Wollman wrote: >>> The utilities (specifically host(1) and dig(1)) are the only >>> user-visible interfaces I care about. > [...] >> ldns (a dependency of unbou

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound

2012-08-20 Thread Doug Barton
bound is a different question from removing BIND. Not only do I not see any reason not to move forward on the former, I think that once people see a solid implementation in place already it will ease the fears about removing BIND. Doug -- I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do ever

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound

2012-08-20 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/20/2012 02:16, Mark Blackman wrote: > > On 20 Aug 2012, at 10:12, Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 08/20/2012 01:55, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >> >>> We will continue to reject this until there are more firm plans, >>> proper documentation on the security su

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound

2012-08-20 Thread Doug Barton
On 08/20/2012 02:19, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, Doug Barton wrote: > >> On 08/20/2012 01:55, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >> >>> We will continue to reject this until there are more firm plans, >>> proper documentation on the security support side, w

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound

2012-08-21 Thread Doug Barton
On 8/21/2012 10:11 AM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > >> Doug Barton writes: >>> Dag-Erling, do you have a timeline for getting started on the >>> ldns/unbound import? >> >> I imported the code into the vendor t

Re: Replacing BIND with unbound

2012-08-21 Thread Doug Barton
On 8/21/2012 11:08 AM, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Doug Barton wrote: >> Neither importing ldns nor removing BIND is going to have any effect on >> the stub resolver library in libc. > > Yes it does as if we are not carefull, we'll neither have a _pr

Re: Improving the Unix API

1999-06-27 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Alexander Viro wrote: > > > On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > This looks viable as long as you don't use small integers to represent > > FL_UFS etc. Having a single header defining constants for all filesystems > >

Re: Improving the Unix API

1999-06-28 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Alexander Viro wrote: > > > On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > I'm talking about the concept of a header file containing something like: > > > > #define FL_VFS 0 > > #define FL_FOOFS

Re: poll() scalability

1999-07-04 Thread Doug Rabson
te (list of fds) in the process. A separate kernel object would be a much cleaner solution and would be usable by a program which called poll in many different ways. With this api, a library would be unable to use the new interface since it would not know the new_poll state setup by the main

Re: The busspace modernization initiative.

1999-07-04 Thread Doug Rabson
lly prove to be true. > > Comments? I think you are on the right lines here. Where does the resource come from? Are you going to support bus_space_map() and if so, how are you planning to call BUS_ALLOC_RESOURCE? I assume that you will update the alpha version of bus.h too. -- Dou

Re: poll() scalability

1999-07-04 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Jonathan Lemon wrote: > On Jul 07, 1999 at 11:15:13AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > In essence, I want to move the large "struct pollfd" array that I > > > have into the kernel, and then instruct the kernel to add/remove > > > entr

Re: The busspace modernization initiative.

1999-07-04 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug >Rabson writes: > : I think you are on the right lines here. Where does the resource come > : from? Are you going to support bus_space_map() and if so, how are you > : planning to call BUS_ALLOC_R

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunder New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Doug Rabson
trouble?) > > > How does it sound? If I understand this correctly, you are suggesting that we program timer0 so that we only take interrupts when a finetimer is due to fire? If so, then it sounds very good. The idea of taking 6000+ interrupts/sec made me uneasy, even though most would re

Re: Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now worksunderNew Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-08 Thread Doug Rabson
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Seigo Tanimura wrote: > On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:54:42 +0100 (BST), > Doug Rabson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > dfr> If I understand this correctly, you are suggesting that we program timer0 > dfr> so that we only take interrupts when a finetimer i

Re: FreeBSD for mips

1999-07-09 Thread Doug Rabson
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew >Jacob writes: > > : I don't know- it's very platform specific. I just wanted my kernels to > > : compile again. I think it'

Re: FreeBSD for mips

1999-07-09 Thread Doug Rabson
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: > > > > I'd just like to offer a hearty hi-ho for a MIPS version of > > > freebsd. I'd love to be able to put some of these !*#@$

Re: hardware

1999-07-10 Thread Doug Rabson
oodoo2 due to the limitations of XFree86 3.3. I expect 4.0 to have excellent 3D performance. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: (forw)

1999-07-12 Thread Doug Rabson
> say you have to have be root to load the modules in the first place :) - Maybe > it's warrants some kind of response page putting up somewhere? - this is also > getting off topic for -hackers :(... It was mentioned when describing the conditions for allowing the file load (securelevel ==

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-13 Thread Doug Rabson
efficient implementation of inx/outx in user mode: UID PID PPID CPU PRI NI VSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TT TIME COMMAND 0 43655 43652 7 2 0 12616584 12456 select S ?? 1036:41.62 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -auth /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/authdir/A:0-w43652 Th

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-14 Thread Doug Rabson
On 14 Jul 1999, Chris G. Demetriou wrote: > Doug Rabson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Overcommit can be used for many reasons. I use it to reserve a large > > linear address space to mmap alpha i/o spaces [...] > > Overcommit can be used for many reasons, but unless

Re: Devloper

1999-07-18 Thread Doug White
sses into those that ought to be killed first and > > those that ought to be killed last in low-memory situations Doug White Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite| www.freebsd.org To Uns

Re: KDE on FreeBSD (missing symbols)

1999-07-20 Thread Doug Rabson
s from this, as > well as depending on Mesa(?!). > > With whatever Qt version you're using go into the appropiate > configs/freebsd-... file and remove -fno-rtti. Who maintains the FreeBSD qt port? Perhaps you should fix the problems in the port and submit them as patch

Re: Anyone know how to dim and SGI flat panel?

1999-07-22 Thread Doug Rabson
> SGI's site has a whitepaper on the flatpanel but it's a bit spare on > control protocols. They do say something about an I2C bus but I dunno > whether that is what DPMS uses or not. XFree86 has an i2c driver in it for talking to monitors so it sounds as if

Etherboot 2.4 needs newer binutils

1999-07-26 Thread Doug Ambrisko
upport "data32". Thanks, Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: BSDI Pthread + gdb (Re: Free BSDI CD!)

1999-07-30 Thread Doug Rabson
ads. It still needs a bit of work and I have been (extremely) busy with unrelated projects recently. I may be able to finish it after SIGGRAPH. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send m

Re: Proposing argv for klds and preloaded modules

1999-08-02 Thread Doug Rabson
n what's in loader(8) already does. In that light, I think we > ought to import it into our tree. > > BTW, won't any of the kld gods speak up? I'm currently extremely distracted by non-FreeBSD work and will be so until after SIGGRAPH. If Peter doesn't show an interes

Re: Jail syscalls

1999-08-04 Thread Doug Rabson
rsioning is not simply because the size of ip_number might change (it should be a sockaddr) but because other fields might be added or removed. To avoid allocating a new syscall whenever this happens, the structure should be versioned. Putting sizeof(whatever) at the beginning of the structure w

Re: Jail syscalls

1999-08-06 Thread Doug Rabson
cond avoids the 'the data is different but the size is the same' problem > which would seem to be not too uncommon.. If you are using the size for a version and you change the fields without ensuring the size changes, then you deserve all you get. In this kind of situation normally f

Re: Questions on new-bus source code

1999-08-07 Thread Doug Rabson
itself for each bus which it finds. It then uses a helper function bus_generic_attach() to probe and attach these and they in turn add new children to themselves as they find attached hardware. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +

Re: quad_t and portability

1999-08-07 Thread Doug Rabson
. > > > > > > > > > > You can always use off_t with "%qd", (int64_t)foo. > > > > But not on the Alpha... int64_t is a long there, and gcc complains unless > > you use %ld. > Mmm and long is 32Bit it seems. > At least that would ex

Re: Async NFS exports?

1999-08-22 Thread Doug Rabson
and sync-write the data again. If you change to async, make sure that you still keep this part - its essential to the protocol. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: KAME IPv6 and freebsd

1999-08-31 Thread Doug Rabson
ng feelings about src/crypto/sys or src/sys/crypto. I would prefer src/sys/crypto. I tend to have a lot of kernel-only trees around for my work and the more self-contained they are the better. Moving softupdates into sys/crypto was a good thing (IMHO). -- Doug Rabson Mail

Re: Intel Merced FreeBSD???

1999-08-31 Thread Doug Rabson
ty > 32-bit mode: > > - 32-bit int, 32-bit long, 64-bit long long, 64-bit pointers > - 32-bit int, 64-bit long, 64-bit long long, 64-bit pointers > > While the 64-bit Windows NT has 32-bit int, 32-bit long, > 64-bit long long, 32-bit pointers, 64-bit some special &

Re: readdir() broken?

1999-08-31 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Bjoern Fischer wrote: > Hello Doug, hello Matthew, hello list members, > > there are some hints that readdir() in -STABLE has problems when > used on NFSv3 (UDP; and TCP probably, too) mounted file systems. > The reason may be the recovery code for stale

Re: [mount.c]: Option "user"-patch

1999-08-31 Thread Doug Rabson
reviewed this pr myself but it seems like a well thought out change to the system. Would the people who are involved with the current (more limited) proposed change like to review this and possibly use it instead. I don't want to lose anyones work here if it could be useful. -- Doug Rabson

Re: More than 32 signals. Thought?

1999-08-31 Thread Doug Rabson
gt; Solaris, which also has 128 signals: > > typedef struct {/* signal set type */ > unsigned long __sigbits[4]; > } sigset_t; Please be careful with your datatypes when formulating this. If you are going to pack 32 signals into one field, make it u_int32_t, n

Re: gdb and source forking

1999-09-03 Thread Doug Rabson
so that they can be invidually submitted to FSF. Assigning all the changes to FSF is about 10x the effort and I don't have much enthusiasm for it. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Uns

Re: gdb and source forking

1999-09-04 Thread Doug Rabson
.2 has not been released (gdb-4.18 was based on a snapshot of 2.9.2). The linux folks often just bundle patches with the gdb sources which is not much different from us importing FSF sources into our CVS tree. We can generate diffs from the virgin FSF sources very easily. -- Doug Rabson

Re: UHCI / OHCI controller with no interrupt configured

1999-09-04 Thread Doug Rabson
ere a better way to see whether a PCI card has > been configured? The value 255 for intline represents "not configured" or "no interrupt". -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Doug Rabson
mplemented by pccard as well. For PCI, we need to change the probe slightly to pass the RID for the port resource (always zero for isa but normally nonzero for pci). In this case, the GET/SET_RESOURCE methods probably won't be needed since they are just used for the multiport klug

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-06 Thread Doug Rabson
n't support anything but isa attachments right now. Its probe > and attach routines need to be corrected to not be ISA specific. I think I will tackle that soon. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181

Re: Limit of bus hierarchies (was Re: PCI modems do not work???)

1999-09-07 Thread Doug Ambrisko
;ve heard that the Belkin device is very similar. BTW if someone commited the sdcc port more people could play with it and write their own firmware. BTW2 I found a bug in more port in which it didn't install the headers for sdcc. I guess I should pr my pr. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail

Re: PCI modems do not work???

1999-09-07 Thread Doug Ambrisko
ught I saw a PCMCIA -> USB at Fry's. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: damn ATX power supplies...

1999-09-13 Thread Doug Ambrisko
devel motherboard that I'm using without a manual and without a working on button. For more info just look at the various ATX spec's online. Doug A. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Multiple NAT alias addresses

1999-09-13 Thread Doug White
meone can note any inconsistencies that would be great. Doug White Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite| www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-h

Re: Multiple NAT alias addresses

1999-09-14 Thread Doug White
bank) and see if those work. I can't attach gdb to a running -g'd version of natd, it just segfaults. :( > > Does natd support multiple alias addresses, or am I missing something > > obvious? > > > Definitely supports! > > BTW, what version you are on

Re: Multiple NAT alias addresses

1999-09-14 Thread Doug White
d to >[TCP] 1.2.3.5:80 -> 212.110.138.4:49960 > In [TCP] [TCP] 212.110.138.4:49960 -> 1.2.3.5:80 aliased to >[TCP] 212.110.138.4:49960 -> 192.168.2.201:80 > Redirections are happening. Very odd. I'm going to adjust the configfile so that it has no c

Re: NFS authentication

1999-09-14 Thread Doug Rabson
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Zhihui Zhang wrote: > > > > > > > > I am wondering where the NFS authentication is done in FreeBSD. Is it done > > > by the N

Re: NFS authentication

1999-09-14 Thread Doug Rabson
. The kernel returns ENEEDAUTH from the nfssvc() call and nfsd does the authentication, passing the results back via nfssvc(). I don't think this code is actually used by anyone so there is a strong possibility that it doesn't work at all. -- Doug Rabson Mail: [EMAI

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