Quoting Chuck Robey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (from Mon, 03 Dec 2007
15:40:34 -0500):
Need to do some python work, using a lot of FreeBSD's base libs, and I
was wondering, if any ports have swigged the FreeBSD libs? I'll do it
if I must, just trying to save me some work.
I'm only aware of devel/p
Le Mar 4 déc 07 à 4:46:50 +0100, Nikola Le??i?? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
écrivait :
> Hello,
Hello!
> All ~80 *-aspell ports have '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Does this
> mean that someone should take maintainership?
Of course, that's why their maintainership has been released: don't
hesitate to adopt one
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:03:50 -0600, Aryeh M. Friedman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:23:20 -0600, Aryeh Friedman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Having said that dependencies often do depend on the order
Nikola Lečić wrote:
> Hello,
>
> All ~80 *-aspell ports have '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Does this
> mean that someone should take maintainership?
Yep
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All ~80 *-aspell ports have '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Does this
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He lost me around the "these days, the horsepower to rebuild
ports is easily available." He clearly has not idea, whatsoever,
of what the current work is.
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Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:23:20 -0600, Aryeh Friedman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>
>>> Having said that dependencies often do depend on the order the leaves
>>> are installed, because some ports will use alternate depen
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:50:21 -0600, GP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks a lot!
I have as you sugested, but have a problems:
$(MKDIR) $(FILESDIR)
$(CP) ${WRKSRC}/kissdx.in ${FILESDIR}
I don't really like to create FILESDIR and move from WRKSRC to
FILESDIR. The WRKDIR/WRKSRC are the place
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:15:10 -0600, Aryeh M. Friedman
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===> Cleaning for xdm-1.1.6_2
What was I supposed to find?
Did you actually run xdm or just assume because it compiled that it
was installed the same way in al
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:23:20 -0600, Aryeh Friedman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Having said that dependencies often do depend on the order the leaves
are installed, because some ports will use alternate dependencies
according to what's already there. It makes things a lot easier to
maintain.
_
>
>
> Having said that dependencies often do depend on the order the leaves
> are installed, because some ports will use alternate dependencies
> according to what's already there. It makes things a lot easier to
> maintain.
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btw xdm is not the wors
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:57:40 -0500
"Aryeh M. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually what see is a signficant difference in the way the banner is
> displayed and no I will not change the rules becuase the root issue is
> xdm-banner is only installed if you make the metaport with nothing
>
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
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Chuck Robey wrote:
Paul Schmehl wrote:
Why the silly games? I get the feeling that Aryeh is honestly not
understanding that he's trying to change the basic way that things
get done in FreeBSD. He doesn't see that. In indu
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 10:41 -0800, Brian wrote:
> Here is a simple example of where improvement would be good.
>
> I add a package the easiest way I know on a slow system.
>
> mybox# pkg_add -r dnetc
> Fetching
> ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/Latest/dnetc.tbz...
On Dec 3, 2007, at 6:21 AM, Attos wrote:
You can execute ClamAV from PHP and parse the result.
The exec() function can do the job. This is the description from the
PHP manual:
exec
(PHP 3, PHP 4, PHP 5)
exec -- Execute an external program
Description
string exec ( string command [, array &o
Of the 2 master sites listed, the vt site appears invalid, and the other
gives an humorously odd 404 error, and just going to dragondata.com seems
to lead to a domain registrar.
entwistle# cd /usr/ports/mail/elm
entwistle# ls
Makefilefiles pkg-plist
distinfopkg-descr
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Stefan Sperling wrote:
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 02:53:12PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
Clint Olsen wrote:
I've tried redirecting standard output/error, both /bin/sh and /bin/csh,
and I can't run this in batch. I'm trying to build gnome which takes
hours, and I want it backgro
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:23:33 -0500 Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> This is why I a asked informally for a p4 account (the person I asked
> should be asking formally on my behalf soon)...
To whom it may concern: please, *please*, no... Too much noise...
WBR
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On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 05:33:09PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
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> Carl Johan Gustavsson wrote:
> > Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> >> perl (what is the difference between the 5.8.8 in the base system
> >> and the one in ports?!?!?!?)
> >>
> > The b
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 02:53:12PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote:
> Clint Olsen wrote:
> > I've tried redirecting standard output/error, both /bin/sh and /bin/csh,
> > and I can't run this in batch. I'm trying to build gnome which takes
> > hours, and I want it backgrounded so that if this SSH shell di
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Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On Monday, December 03, 2007 17:15:10 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> ===> Cleaning for xdm-1.1.6_2
>>>
>>> What was I supposed to find?
>>
>> Did you actually run xdm or just assume because it co
Clint Olsen wrote:
> I've tried redirecting standard output/error, both /bin/sh and /bin/csh,
> and I can't run this in batch. I'm trying to build gnome which takes
> hours, and I want it backgrounded so that if this SSH shell disconnects it
> doesn't crater the build. You would think that --batc
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>
> perl (what is the difference between the 5.8.8 in the base system and
> the one in ports?!?!?!?)
>
The base system does not contain Perl.
/cjg
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On Monday 03 December 2007 13:19:58 Chuck Robey wrote:
> Paul Schmehl wrote:
> > Here's a hint that would help a *ton* of users. Don't try to install a
> > port until your ports tree is up to date. Completely up to date - as
> > is, run portsnap or cvs or cvsup *first*, *then* try to install your
--On Monday, December 03, 2007 17:15:10 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
===> Cleaning for xdm-1.1.6_2
What was I supposed to find?
Did you actually run xdm or just assume because it compiled that it
was installed the same way in all cases...
No, I didn't run xdm, becau
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Carl Johan Gustavsson wrote:
> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> perl (what is the difference between the 5.8.8 in the base system
>> and the one in ports?!?!?!?)
>>
> The base system does not contain Perl.
Then why is it compiled by buildworld?
- --
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Chuck Robey wrote:
> Paul Schmehl wrote:
>> Here's a hint that would help a *ton* of users. Don't try to
>> install a port until your ports tree is up to date. Completely
>> up to date - as is, run portsnap or cvs or cvsup *first*, *then*
>> try to i
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> ===> Cleaning for xdm-1.1.6_2
>
> What was I supposed to find?
Did you actually run xdm or just assume because it compiled that it
was installed the same way in all cases... hint: the visual appearance
varies signficiantly depending on what meth
Thanks a lot!
I have as you sugested, but have a problems:
$(MKDIR) $(FILESDIR)
$(CP) ${WRKSRC}/kissdx.in ${FILESDIR}
I don't really like to create FILESDIR and move from WRKSRC to FILESDIR.
The WRKDIR/WRKSRC are the place where you work anything inside. However,
move from WRKSRC to FILESD
Paul Schmehl wrote:
Here's a hint that would help a *ton* of users. Don't try to install a
port until your ports tree is up to date. Completely up to date - as
is, run portsnap or cvs or cvsup *first*, *then* try to install your port.
I have several possible solutions (contact me privately i
--On Monday, December 03, 2007 14:20:16 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Try this as a challenge then install xdm cleanly on the first try
without having to install any additional ports from the command line
(what it drags in is fine)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] make deinstall dist
Hi!
I just migrated from 32bit FreeBSD to amd64 and realised that the
tightvnc-port wasnt supported.
A helpful guy called Tsurutani Naoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
provided me some patches
http://barutan.s296.xrea.com/nocache/tightvnc139-amd64-20071010.diff.gz
and thightvnc did compile. Unfortu
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Edwin Groothuis wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 03:01:37PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>>> Now, stop this thread, stop the discussion, build something, and
>>> come back, if you cannot code or produce something with whatever
>>> you think the tree
Need to do some python work, using a lot of FreeBSD's base libs, and I
was wondering, if any ports have swigged the FreeBSD libs? I'll do it
if I must, just trying to save me some work.
Thanks.
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On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 03:01:37PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> > Now, stop this thread, stop the discussion, build something, and
> > come back, if you cannot code or produce something with whatever
> > you think the tree should be using, then *silence*.
>
> I know this will get me flam
On Dec 2, 2007, at 5:01 AM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
1. What is more important to your personal use of FreeBSD (the ports
system, the underlaying OS, some other aspect)?
The core OS. Ports is icing on the cake.
2. How frequently do you interact with the ports systems and what is
the most
On Dec 3, 2007, at 1:39 AM, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
I am purposelly not looking at any previous solutions right now... If
and when it is determined that changes to the current system are
needed I will look at them then for ideas of what has not worked.
(like the Internet or other large complex
On Dec 2, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Miguel Mendez wrote:
I already replied to your questions in private but I wonder if you
took a look at
pkgsrc and the enhancements the OpenBSD people have done the pkg*
commands and whether you think borrowing from them would be useful.
I've been using pkgsrc on
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> Now, stop this thread, stop the discussion, build something, and
> come back, if you cannot code or produce something with whatever
> you think the tree should be using, then *silence*.
>
I know this will get me flamed but I wonder if any
On Monday 03 December 2007 11:53:46 Remko Lodder wrote:
> David Southwell wrote:
> > Just what is your agenda here?
>
> That's so november 2007, we dont use calenders nowadays
Do you mean a colender or a calendar?
>
> > Why all the spite and venom?
> >
> > If you do not have anything practical to
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Skip Ford wrote:
> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> Paul Schmehl wrote:
>>> --On Monday, December 03, 2007 13:53:06 -0500 "Aryeh M.
>>> Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Have you ever attempted to install the individual ports of a
mega metaport
David Southwell wrote:
> Just what is your agenda here?
That's so november 2007, we dont use calenders nowadays
>
> Why all the spite and venom?
>
> If you do not have anything practical to contribute to the current discussion
> that takes it forward then why waste your energies saying anythin
Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Monday, December 03, 2007 13:53:06 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Have you ever attempted to install the individual ports of a mega
metaport?
Of course I have. And I haven't run into any problems that weren't
solvable.
Before you waste any m
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> Paul Schmehl wrote:
> > --On Monday, December 03, 2007 13:53:06 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Have you ever attempted to install the individual ports of a mega
> >> metaport?
> >>>
> > Of course I have. And I haven't run into any pro
On Monday 03 December 2007 10:59:00 Chuck Robey wrote:
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> > Ade Lovett wrote:
> >> On Dec 03, 2007, at 10:12 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> >>> I have about 20 responses in private email and only the ones you
> >>> ha
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007, Heino Tiedemann wrote:
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|/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/libperl.so:
| Undefined symbol
| "__sbmaskrune"
| *** Error code 1
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| Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick.
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What can I do?
Rebuild perl.
Doug
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He took his roadshow over to -questions. Funny thing is, he has set of
folks that are all just like him, and they are all merrily
re-engineering ports. I figure he's going to sic one of his crew to
come back and try again to talk folks into this. Seeing as no one here
who has the ability to
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Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On Monday, December 03, 2007 13:53:06 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Have you ever attempted to install the individual ports of a mega
>> metaport?
>>>
> Of course I have. And I haven't run into a
--On Monday, December 03, 2007 13:53:06 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Have you ever attempted to install the individual ports of a mega
metaport?
Of course I have. And I haven't run into any problems that weren't
solvable.
Before you waste any more time, why don't y
I'm with David when he said "enough." I think that Aryeh and David have
received enough negative comments so that they now know how people feel.
Now we should wait for them to do their promised work. And if they
don't deliver, well, no harm, no foul!
Stephen
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
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On Dec 03, 2007, at 10:12 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
I have about 20 responses in private email and only the ones you
have seen in public are in this category
Enough said. There are currently ~180 people
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Ade Lovett wrote:
>
> On Dec 03, 2007, at 10:23 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> Only 2 are self-reported maintainers and at least 5 admit to not
>> being maintainers... I think your main issue is you are 100% in
>> "there is nothing wrong" camp and for w
A statisticaslly valid sample will be difficult here, I mean a slashdot
poll is maybe a way to reach a wide portuion of the userbase, but they all
think freebsd is dead:) Some user will object no matter what you do.
Even if you emailed root of every system that did a portsnap or cvsup or
freeb
Here is a simple example of where improvement would be good.
I add a package the easiest way I know on a slow system.
mybox# pkg_add -r dnetc
Fetching
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/Latest/dnetc.tbz...
Done.
=> Added group "dnetc".
=> Added user "dnetc".
*
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Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On Monday, December 03, 2007 11:38:33 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Coding before the problem is well understood is the worst of all
>> possible solutions... specifically in many ways thats how to
Hi There,
portupgrade -a fails because auf some perl Problems:
,
|/libexec/ld-elf.so.1:/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.8/mach/CORE/libperl.so:
| Undefined symbol
| "__sbmaskrune"
| *** Error code 1
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| Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick.
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It stops on differnt ports (graphics/ImageMagick
On Monday 03 December 2007 10:37:21 Ade Lovett wrote:
> On Dec 03, 2007, at 10:23 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> > Only 2 are self-reported maintainers and at least 5 admit to not being
> > maintainers... I think your main issue is you are 100% in "there is
> > nothing wrong" camp and for what ever r
On Dec 03, 2007, at 10:23 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
Only 2 are self-reported maintainers and at least 5 admit to not being
maintainers... I think your main issue is you are 100% in "there is
nothing wrong" camp and for what ever reason want to convience
everyone else any effort to say/do differ
--On Monday, December 03, 2007 11:38:33 -0500 "Aryeh M. Friedman"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Coding before the problem is well understood is the worst of all
possible solutions... specifically in many ways thats how to the port
system got into such a bad state
I've run just about every *ni
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Ade Lovett wrote:
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> On Dec 03, 2007, at 10:12 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> I have about 20 responses in private email and only the ones you
>> have seen in public are in this category
>
> Enough said. There are currently ~180 people with direct acc
On Dec 03, 2007, at 10:12 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
I have about 20 responses in private email and only the ones you have
seen in public are in this category
Enough said. There are currently ~180 people with direct access to
the ports/ tree (ie: ports committers).
Even assuming all priva
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Remko Lodder wrote:
> Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> Ade Lovett wrote:
>
>>
>> Then the community needs to make up it's mind because I have been
>> criticized for making a wiki for a similar issue (SATA issues on
>> ICH9(R)) You do sound like Marie
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Ade Lovett wrote:
>
> On Dec 03, 2007, at 09:42 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> If the questions are flawed then point out where.If the
>> general concept of a survey vs. user stories vs. what ever then
>> state which you think is more productive. I
On Dec 03, 2007, at 09:42 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
If the questions are flawed then point out where.If the general
concept of a survey vs. user stories vs. what ever then state which
you think is more productive. If your problem is the medium/forum the
data is being gathered in see below.
Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> Ade Lovett wrote:
>
>
> Then the community needs to make up it's mind because I have been
> criticized for making a wiki for a similar issue (SATA issues on
> ICH9(R)) You do sound like Marie Antonetta. For the time being
> as far I can tell the consensus is to k
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Ade Lovett wrote:
>
> On Dec 03, 2007, at 08:38 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> Coding before the problem is well understood is the worst of all
>> possible solutions...
>
> Congratulations on snipping the relevant part of my email which
> indicated how
On Dec 03, 2007, at 08:38 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
Coding before the problem is well understood is the worst of all
possible solutions...
Congratulations on snipping the relevant part of my email which
indicated how fundamentally flawed your "survey" was. Until such time
as you understa
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>
> Live by the code, die by the code.
>
> Show us some code. Or, quite frankly, since y'all have missed the
> subtleties of others, put up, or shut up.
Coding before the problem is well understood is the worst of all
possible solutions... specific
On Dec 03, 2007, at 03:08 , David Southwell wrote:
Enough!!
The zeroth group involves those that decide to invoke quasi-religious
concepts where they're completely out of place, in a vain attempt to
make their point.
Live by the code, die by the code.
Show us some code. Or, quite frank
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Yay! It's now Public Domain!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qmail#Copyright_status
which leads to:
http://cr.yp.to/talks/2007.11.02/slides.pdf (page 10)
http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html (last updated 29 november)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3147768955127254412
(he himself stating it... a
Hi,
* Amarendra Godbole wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2007 6:28 PM, Matthias Schmidt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I wrote a small script called pkg_search to help me searching my local
> > ports tree for a port/package without using "make search name=" or
> > something like freshports.org. Its not a big
Hi!
The port graphics/ is currently broken with gcc-42. To unbreak the
port with gcc-42 the compiler options "-msse -msse2 -m3dnow" should be
used. I filed a PR:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=117874
But as pav noted not all processors do have those instructions. What
should we d
On Dec 3, 2007 6:28 PM, Matthias Schmidt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wrote a small script called pkg_search to help me searching my local
> ports tree for a port/package without using "make search name=" or
> something like freshports.org. Its not a big deal, but it eases my
> daily pkg_add lif
[Resend to ports@, was first on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi guys,
I wrote a small script called pkg_search to help me searching my local
ports tree for a port/package without using "make search name=" or
something like freshports.org. Its not a big deal, but it eases my
daily pkg_add life a bit
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On Monday 03 December 2007 01:41:14 Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 05:01:35AM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> > As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at
> > least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should
> > remain as is or
On Dec 03, 2007, at 01:18 , Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
I'm probably going to regret joining this thread, but quite frankly,
the amount of horse being thrown around has gotten way out of hand.
I have practical knowledge here in working with different dependency
management systems (which is ess
checking whether to build static libraries... yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no
creating libtool
checking for pkg-config... /usr/local/bin/pkg-config
checking for glib-2.0... yes
checking GLIB_CFLAGS... -I/usr/local/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/glib-
2.0/include
che
On Sun, Dec 02, 2007 at 05:01:35AM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> As has been hashed out in -ports@ over the last few days there is at
> least a need to examine weither or not the current ports system should
> remain as is or potentially be re-engineered in the future (estimates
> if and when ne
On Saturday 01 December 2007 04:49:23 pm Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> Peter Jeremy wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 04:10:14PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
> >> This is due to thinking of the port system as one would of as say
> >> make(1) namely a multistage transaction vs. one big atomic
> >>
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> On Saturday 01 December 2007 04:49:23 pm Aryeh M. Friedman wrote:
>> Peter Jeremy wrote:
>>> On Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 04:10:14PM -0500, Aryeh M. Friedman
>>> wrote:
This is due to thinking of the port system as one would of as
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