I just wanted to say that I thank M Brutman for this great software that
he has given us for all these years. I may have missed it, but I have
not noticed anyone saying it lately and I think that it needs to be
said. I have gotten a lot of use out of it, and appreciate the work he
has put into
Getting booted over a simple statement isn't even something to worry
about.I think the only person who decides that would be Jim.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:00 AM, Mateusz Viste wrote:
> On 10/09/2015 19:23, Paul Dufresne wrote:
> > Well, I don't know how hard it would be to port picoTCO (GPL v.
On 10/09/2015 19:23, Paul Dufresne wrote:
> Well, I don't know how hard it would be to port picoTCO (GPL v.2) to DOS:
There is also lwip that looks very solid - highly active, BSD license,
stable IPv6 support, designed to be lightweight and portable.
And there's already a DOS port of it! made by
Well, I don't know how hard it would be to port picoTCO (GPL v.2) to DOS:
http://docs.picotcp.com/user_doc.pdf
http://www.picotcp.com/about/
Heard about it from FOSDEM 2014: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO4liMJZ0Qg
also http://video.fosdem.org/2014/AW1121/Sunday/PicoTCP.webm
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On 9/9/2015 11:45 PM, Antony Gordon wrote:
>
> Wow,
>
> This is the most activity I've seen on this list in a while, and it's
> a temper tantrum of sorts over whether someone has the right to close
> source or open source something they wrote.
>
Tantrums? Here? *gasp* Never...
[/sarcasm]
> Talk
Wow,
This is the most activity I've seen on this list in a while, and it's a
temper tantrum of sorts over whether someone has the right to close source
or open source something they wrote.
Talk about comedy. So how are those bugs looking on the bug list in
FreeDOS?
Yeah, I probably just got myse
On 9/9/2015 4:00 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote:
> Ralf,I would ask that you take a breather.It is his program,he may do
> whatever he wishes with it.
>
Well, maybe you should actually read my reply, as that is exactly what I
am saying...
Ralf
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Ralf,I would ask that you take a breather.It is his program,he may do
whatever he wishes with it.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Ralf Quint wrote:
> On 9/8/2015 7:46 PM, Michael Brutman wrote:
> >
> > I don't know how to respond to this;
> Well, just don't.
> This guy is infected with the "Stal
On 9/8/2015 7:46 PM, Michael Brutman wrote:
>
> I don't know how to respond to this;
Well, just don't.
This guy is infected with the "Stallman virus", that is a fatal
condition for that no cure exists. And he is pushing that point of view
religiously and merciless on everyone around...
>
> What y
Woops,typo.I meant to type "can't".
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 12:50 PM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU <
jcharbonnea...@cpsge.org> wrote:
> I read a few heated emails.Let's all calm down and discuss this.So,I
> understand that the current version of M/TCP isn't open sourced.That's
> fine.We still have one from
I read a few heated emails.Let's all calm down and discuss this.So,I
understand that the current version of M/TCP isn't open sourced.That's
fine.We still have one from two years ago,which is not THAT outdated.It's
not like people are going to try connecting CORTANA to DOS.So there is
really no urge
Hi Joe!
Em Wed, 9 Sep 2015 10:10:17 +0200 (CEST)
Joe Forster/STA escreveu:
> But now I'm creating my own - GNU-style, generalized - utilities for
> processing database exports for my job. They haven't been released
> yet but I already wrote into all of them: "released into the public
> domain".
Hi guys,
I've been coding free (as in use for no costs) software since 1994, with
60 thousand lines of code. ;-) It's open source but not exactly free (as
in you may modify, republish it etc.) software. Since about 2010, not
only I have no time to develop it but it also became obsolete, and I'
from Maarten Vermeulen:
> Why are we doing so difficult about something that somebody not want to
> do. It is his thing and we have two options:
> - using the old one.
> - search for another one.
> I don't want to be annoying but it is the case.
> Maarten
> Op 9 sep. 2015 06:57 schreef "Steve
Hi all,
Why are we doing so difficult about something that somebody not want to
do. It is his thing and we have two options:
- using the old one.
- search for another one.
I don't want to be annoying but it is the case.
Maarten
Op 9 sep. 2015 06:57 schreef "Steve Nickolas" :
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2
On Tue, 8 Sep 2015, Michael Brutman wrote:
> I am not denying anybody their freedom. People can choose to use what they
> want. I have given people a great set of networking tools that make
> FreeDOS and other flavors of DOS more useful. You have ranted like a
> little child because this year t
I don't know how to respond to this; I've been stewing about it all day.
First, some facts:
The 2013-05-23 version consists of at least 71 files and totals around
39913 lines of code. Documentation is not counted in those totals. I
started the project in late 2005. The source code was released i
I'm sure within a month or two's time,he will have completed the current
version and move on to the next version,henceforth releasing the "Older" so
to speak,source code.And if not,it's not like the users can't just download
it and install/utilize it themselves.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Jim
Em Mon, 7 Sep 2015 15:37:18 -0700
Michael Brutman escreveu:
> If the lack of source code prevents you from using mTCP I regret that
> and I encourage you to question your assumption that without source
> code it is not "clean" or "good" enough for you.
I regret that you've released it as non-fre
>> On 9/7/2015 6:37 PM, Michael Brutman wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> I think that whether it is open source or not it is still a great solution
>> for DOS networking. If the lack of source code prevents you from using mTCP
>> I regret that and I encourage you to question your assumption that without
>> sou
On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 17:09:53 +0200, Bruno Félix Rezende Ribeiro
wrote:
> I regret that you've released it as non-free software. I wonder what
> do you want to achieve, besides power over the users of your package.
> You are denying them a freedom they deserve to have
No one "deserves" anythin
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Hi Bruno,
> Em Mon, 7 Sep 2015 15:37:18 -0700 Michael Brutman
> escreveu:
>
>> If the lack of source code prevents you from using mTCP I regret
>> that and I encourage you to question your assumption that without
>> source code it is not "clean" or
end up in freedos.
Thanks you all for your comments,
Barry
http://www.barrydegraaff.tk/vc
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 15:37:18 -0700
From: mbbrut...@brutman.com
To: freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] mTCP/IP stack by M Brutman is now closed source
Hi,
Please don't pa
Hello all,
I just picked a random email, but thanks for all the answers. :p
Op 7 sep. 2015 22:37 schreef "Barry de Graaff" :
>
> > Why is it important to have it open source?
>
> Because:
>
> 1. I do read the source, and also compare between versions the changes so
I can decide if I need/want t
No, I understand that. I mean nothing would prevent a user from manually
utilizing it in the future if they deem it necessary.
On 9/7/2015 11:33 PM, Louis Santillan wrote:
> Sadly, it would mean that specific version of mTCP could not be included in
> FD.
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Merc
Sadly, it would mean that specific version of mTCP could not be included in FD.
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Mercury Thirteen
wrote:
>
>
> On 9/7/2015 6:37 PM, Michael Brutman wrote:
>
> ...
> I think that whether it is open source or not it is still a great solution
> for DOS networking. If
On 9/7/2015 6:37 PM, Michael Brutman wrote:
...
I think that whether it is open source or not it is still a great
solution for DOS networking. If the lack of source code prevents you
from using mTCP I regret that and I encourage you to question your
assumption that without source code it is
Hi,
Please don't panic. There are better things to worry about. Just to
clarify:
- The source for the 2013-05-23 version is available and always will be.
That particular release was probably near perfect because very few people
ever ask for more features or send bug reports.
- The source for m
I've never been able to get a working DOS network.I can't even get my
FreeDOS laptop to 'talk' to my windows desktop.
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Ralf Quint wrote:
> On 9/7/2015 1:36 PM, Barry de Graaff wrote:
>
> > Why is it important to have it open source?
>
> Because:
>
> 1. I do read t
On 9/7/2015 1:36 PM, Barry de Graaff wrote:
> Why is it important to have it open source?
Because:
1. I do read the source, and also compare between versions the changes so I can
decide if I need/want the new changes.
2. I actually change software from time to time and also merge my changes
up
> Why is it important to have it open source?Because:1. I do read the source,
> and also compare between versions the changes so I can decide if I need/want
> the new changes.2. I actually change software from time to time and also
> merge my changes upstream3. I prefer free-software out of
On Mon, 7 Sep 2015, Maarten Vermeulen wrote:
Hi,
My question here is why do you want that. I don't want to be irritating
(which I probably am now).
Why is it important to have it open source?
It's FreeDOS, after all. Can't include stuff that isn't Free®™© ;)
However, it's my personal opin
Hi Maarten, Barry, Bruno and of course Michael,
> Why is it important to have it open source?
While I have not read this code either, nor contributed
to it, I generally appreciate a possibility to read it.
In that sense, it is a pity that code currently is not
open. I am sure there would be li
Hello, Maarten!
Em Mon, 7 Sep 2015 20:40:56 +0200
Maarten Vermeulen escreveu:
> Why is it important to have it open source?
Please, see "Why we must insist on Free Software"[0] and "Why 'Open
Source' misses the point of Free Software"[1].
Just my 2 cents.
Footnotes:
[0] http://www.gnu.org/p
Hi,
My question here is why do you want that. I don't want to be irritating
(which I probably am now).
Why is it important to have it open source?
I hope I'm not stupid now for questioning something I maybe miss-readed in
this email.
Maarten
Op 7 sep. 2015 20:31 schreef "Barry de Graaff" :
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