is incredible. I have tons of spare conventional memory, all
my real-mode apps now run properly, and everything is faster than
before. The other nice thing is that many of the FreeDOS facilities are
designed to work with the newer hardware as well as the old.
This is a fantasti
CSI?
Nearly all my stuff uses SCSI drives.
(of course you can also work without any UMBPCI/EMM386... I prefer the
usbaspi4 and aspidisk drivers for USB, by the way, even DEVLOADable well)
These are news to me! Do you ahve URLs? I'm having problems
Hi Mark,
You can install FreeDOS on a new computer and have it dual-boot
with Windows XP as well. This doesn't harm the WindowsXP
installation at all and doesn't require re-installing
WindowsXP.
Hehe, I'm sure this is useful for some folks, but for me it would be
like sacril
Hi Mark,
OK, I am AMAZED at Datapol's technical support. I sent them
the boot floppy and received a patched version of NTFS4DOS
Sounds great, but where can we get the "patched" version? I mean will it
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there to tell me, for that reason.
The problem for me, is that I have to build the servers very quickly and
we don't have spare ones lying around, not to mention the amount of time
it would take to test for data corruption. I guess it would be quick to
test for timeouts? I'm also wor
The EU tried to get an OEM deal, where they HAD to offer an alternative
to Windows, but that idea didn't get very far!
I'm lucky to have Win2k on a big network and also at home, and plan to
"skip" Windows XP. I'll be evaluating Longhorn soon, but from what I've
seen so
can't say I'm running FreeDOS x.xx, it's just a bunch of jumbled up
files that happens to work on the latest expensive hardware.
http://www.fdos.org/bootdisks/
OK, this is nice, but how are people supposed to find it from the main
freedos.org site?
Thanks for the USB links, I&#x
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MBR was missing? They all indicated "Active" and "Bootable" and "no errors"!
3. Why does Win2k setup program not warn about missing MBR or try to
create one?
4. How is the MBR supposed to get there in the first place. Is it the
jo
a 2Gb partition, the FORMAT command told me the cluster size
was 64K (!), and that Win9x and MS-DOS would not be able to use the
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that it will recommend FAT32 for bigger partitions.
OK, well I only wanted a 2Gb partition and wanted to format on 4K
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s the MBR boot "program" too, not sure about the MBR itself.
2. I was confused by having FreeDOS 1.3.0 because I'd never downloaded
it, and FreeDOS.org implies 1.2.1, it turns out that this later version
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I'm not convinced the numbers in FDISK are an accurate test.
I've seen huge hard disks reported under other o/s, and then when you
try to write above a certain cylinder (maybe 1024) is goes wrong.
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What does it do?
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will better than any
Windows server, since DOS have no (or very little) overhead.
Yes, that's what I'm thinking. The problems will arise when you can't do
multi-tasking and multi-threading, and utilizing full power of load
balancing on dual X
C drive.
Here is the exact BOOT.INI file that Windows creates when built under
FreeDOS (beware line wrap!):
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Bernd Blaauw wrote:
What does it do?
Arachne is a limited graphical webbrowser for DOS (and maybe Linux).
Thanks, this was not clear from the original link.
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computer? My guess is no...
If you're going to invest in a big server, I think you need an o/s that
can run many things at once, otherwise it will be sitting idle for a
long time and won't be able to service many different types of request...
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when Windows setup calls
the reboot code...
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n't know if Windows setup would allow such
things during text-mode setup anyway.
I assume you loaded SMARTDRV?
No, I used LBACACHE, is that the right toy for the job? It went like a
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this is the point where it would fail if there was no MBR.
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programs at the same
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HER\ifshlp.sys
rem lbacache tuns switch is needed for SCSI and UMBPCI
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In an eariler post I said I'd seen drive sizes reported as 8Gb with SCSI
when the drives are actually much bigger. I thought it was related to
not using a SCSI driver and BIOS (INT13) reporting wrong size, and Eric
said it wasn't. I think Eric is right, but m
you
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ed or misunderstood under EMM386
with VDS (which appears to be the case), then my guess is that it would
be dangerous to run any kind of disk tool while the system is in that
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I wonder if the MBR hole is still present when *not* using the GUI? If
it's not, that would explain why I've never been hit by it!
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I don't know the exact answer, by theory MBR should exist on the other
disk as a "parity".
Hehe, pretty crazy?
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made it clear I've only ever used 1.3.0 beta
included in FreeDOS Beta9SR1. I think you'll find the 1.3.0 beta will
run fine on the IBM eServer you are testing.
The "Error 0 reading sector 0x3f", are you sure that sector is not
damaged? What is the PC and drive spec? If you t
strange thing in the past where I could access SATA from DOS, but
not from Windows!
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Hehe, so who knows:)
Anyway, regarding the VDS and SCSI tests, I posted my findings and
SysConfig earlier in this thread, and can also test the new EMM386 to
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rem but it doesn't seem to be needed on the 29360N card
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as to be at the start of the image]). But WinImage is great
for browsing big ISO files with lots of subfolders and it also has
"built-in" boot sectors you can choose. I guess we should ask the guy to
put the FreeDOS boot-sector in there too!
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errorlevel H%%x set extradrv=%%x:
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and told SYS to install it to the C: drive, and even
told it to use NTLDR instead of FreeDOS KERNEL.SYS
The SYS command did it's thing, and reported the new boot sector had
been installed, but when I tried to boot the C: drive, it did NOT look
like the NT boot sector! It was saying "
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place for %%tokens and all that, but not for my silly
RAMDRIVE, it's just to hold a few temp files and the pipe | with MORE.
http://www.coli.uni-sb.de/~eric/stuff/soft/specials/finddisk.zip
(the binary is 511 bytes big...)
smalle
ow
to get hold of specific FreeDOS files, whereas this thread is nothing to
do with FDISK 1.2.1-k, but rather about boot sectors created by FreeDOS
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saying "FreeDOS can't find KERNEL.SYS".
Hmmm, something not right there.
Yes, it had installed the _FreeDOS_ boot sector and kindly also written
it to a disk file for me, DUH!
Here are my versions:
KERNEL 1.1.35 (B
creen corruption.
5. Seagate Seatools (Win), 'SMART Status' says "A SMART threshold has
been exceeded", but 'Quick Test' says "The driver for this drive doesn't
support SMART".
6. AIDA32 refuses the SMART option for non A
Here's the section of FDCONFIG.SYS related to this:
DEVICE=DRIVER\HIMEM.EXE /NOABOVE16 /X
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If I can get the files today (Sunday) I can test around Tuesday. Monday
is out because of multiple hard drive crashes on Dell systems that I
need to fix first.
Bernd Blaauw wrote:
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In th
uses BOOTONLY without the forward slash - at
least according to the help file. I always check command /? before
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1. Windows 2000
2. MS-DOS (as opposed to "Previous Operating System on C:")
Hehe, so I guess there's a difference between simply using DOS 6.22
format, and actually using DOS 6.22 SYS. Maybe the IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS and
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t into MS-DOS 6.22", that's something I
won't know until I've run the tests.
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is out because of multiple hard drive crashes on Dell systems that I
need to fix first.
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he Windows NT/2000 boot loader menu
1. Windows 2000
2. MS-DOS (as opposed to "Previous Operating System on C:")
Hehe, so I guess there's a difference between simply using DOS 6.22
format, and actually using DOS 6.22 SYS. Maybe the IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS and
COMMAND.COM cause the issue.
f SYS uses BOOTONLY without the forward slash - at
least according to the help file. I always check command /? before
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he Windows NT/2000 boot loader menu
1. Windows 2000
2. MS-DOS (as opposed to "Previous Operating System on C:")
Hehe, so I guess there's a difference between simply using DOS 6.22
format, and actually using DOS 6.22 SYS. Maybe the IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS and
COMMAND.COM cause the
Hi Aitor,
Same happened to me last night too...
Glad to read this, I am becoming an anti-spam paranoid...
Well, suddenly they have all shown up, but three days late:)
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I can confirm this: strangely upgrading from DOS 6.22, Win2000setup
doesn't finish and I get a spontaneous reboot during last phase of setup.
I've not seen this before, it could be specific to the box.
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u've put description "{roughly 0.84pre}", so I'll go
with that one for the COMMAND.COM
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*kernel 2034, 2035, 2035A and the CVS kernel
I see 2.0.35a on SourceForge, so that must be the Kernel I need.
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I think this kind of tool makes a good addition to any FreeDOS hardware
test CD - check the health and history of your hard drives before
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So there we are. For some reason /OEM:MS does not appear to perfectly
mirror the use of MS-DOS FORMAT command.
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n the archive either and
still isn't.
It seems messages posted later than mine got through earlier...
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FDISK /activate /pri:2
MS FORMAT c: (Note this is MS-DOS Format!)
this installs MS bootsector.
Right.
There's a small chance FD FORMAT creates a slightly different filesystem
compared to MS FORMAT. Add to that the 2 different bootsectors, and that
might explain things then.
eigh the annoyance of the dual boot
behavior, so I'll still use FreeDOS and just learn to live with the
BOOT.INI problem.
Anyway, I have to test PC set up and available for at least a week so if
you want me to run any more tests just let me know.
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and then choose "Documentation" it takes me to something completely
different, with FAQs, and I can't find the actual docs related to
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to get 4k cluster size)
3. FD SYS (tell it to grab Win9x boot sector from user)
4. Start Windows Installer and off it goes
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the same result.
CHKDSK indicates no bad sectors.
The user does not indicate the method they are using to transfer the
download to the floppy. Basically, you have to download the zip file to
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use. On top of this, we're only using this boot sector for about 10
minutes (until Windows setup begins).
its all already written, I just need to add the glue logic to sys for a
user supplied boot sector instead of using compiled in one (something
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correct NDIS drivers and starts the network.
I looked at Bart's modular disk, but in the end decided to just make my own.
Here's the article I used to learn how to do it:
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As I remember it, the idea is that SYS will read a user supplied boot
sector, add correct geometry info and write the full boot sector to the
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sses my mind a lot is "Should I be using Linux for
boot environments instead of FreeDOS?". I don't know the answer, but I
imagine Linux will cope with very modern hardware such as x64 and
protected execution, serial SCSI, USB and so on, but right now FreeDOS
does everything I need.
ems will never be native in DOS. There's not even an
opensource SMB client for DOS. UDF is some kind of (read-only? packet
writing?) filesystem for DVDs?
Yup, well even a UDF reader would be good. This is where you use a CD-RW
like a giant floppy. It _can_ work under DOS, I remember an A
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