Re: [Freedos-user] dev86

2022-05-30 Thread ZB
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 03:32:17PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: > Yes, and it's included as part of FreeDOS 1.3. You'll find the install > package on the BonusCD. Here's the report .. scroll down to > "Development" and you'll find the "bcc" package that Tom and I linked > to: > > https://www.ibiblio.or

Re: [Freedos-user] dev86

2022-05-30 Thread ZB
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 08:35:29PM +0200, tom ehlert wrote: > > Yes, I mean exactly that package, and if somebody already compiled it for > > DOS, I'll just save some of my time trying to do that compilation > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/1.3/pkg-html/bcc

Re: [Freedos-user] dev86

2022-05-30 Thread ZB
On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 11:34:18PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: > But tkchia is listed as a contributor of dev86 tools, so maybe tkchia can > provide additional comments here. Yes, I mean exactly that package, and if somebody already compiled it for DOS, I'll just save some of my time trying to do that

[Freedos-user] dev86

2022-05-29 Thread ZB
Anyone compiled dev86 tools for DOS? -- regards, Zbigniew ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] Installing Freedos on a Opendos system

2022-05-16 Thread ZB
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 08:31:33AM +, Rober To via Freedos-user wrote: > Hi everybody: > I would like to know if it is possible to install Freedos on a Opendos > system. I want to have both systems and choose one or the other. I believe it should be feasible using GRUB (but not tried to inst

Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse /O

2022-01-22 Thread ZB
It was serial mouse used in Microsoft mode ("mouse /3"). Connected to Multi I/O adapter inserted into slot of my trusty Soyo-SiS mobo. It's Fellowes "Combo" mouse, which has PS/2 connector and PS/2 <-> RS-232 adapter (currently in use). As I wrote: I did a comparison, and no problem when using gmo

Re: [Freedos-user] Cutemouse /O

2022-01-22 Thread ZB
Please, note: CuteMouse v2.1 beta4 probably is flawed. One day I was tried it with "Civilization", but when using this mouse driver the game always has been hung after relatively short period of time (like 30-40 moves) and then I wasn't able to do any more input (it was beeping at me like in case o

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS game compatibility mass testing results/questions

2021-11-20 Thread ZB
On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 10:54:50AM -0600, Jim Hall wrote: > I think that's a very narrow view. The reality is that a lot of the > "classic" (say, '486 or earlier) hardware is hard to find - at least in > working condition. The site: ebay.com The search phrase: motherboard 486 The result: more tha

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS game compatibility mass testing results/questions

2021-11-20 Thread ZB
On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 04:03:57PM -0600, Jim Hall wrote: > But like the report on BTTR, I can't run Wolfenstein 3D. I've tried a > number of different combinations: (I am running RC5 on QEMU on Linux) > > . With and without SLOWDOWN (attempted SLOWDOWN /MHz486:66 and /MHz486:133, > and SLOWDOWN

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS game compatibility mass testing results/questions

2021-11-20 Thread ZB
On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 03:43:42PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > Hi! > > > 1. Any attempt to run any old game -- if you mean "testing FreeDOS > > compatibility" -- should be done on "legacy hardware". > > Not necessarily. It is exciting to check what can be done on modern PC. Necessarily if you me

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS game compatibility mass testing results/questions

2021-11-20 Thread ZB
On Sat, Nov 20, 2021 at 11:13:45AM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > Hi! There is a thread about freedos game compatibility on BTTR, > started by liljames2k: > > https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=18483 > > Zyzzle suggested making sure that all DOS extenders are in PATH > (not sure wh

Re: [Freedos-user] Sound in (Free)DOS

2021-10-02 Thread ZB
On Sat, Oct 02, 2021 at 12:57:54PM +0200, Frantisek Rysanek wrote: Thank you for detailed explanation. So it doesn't look that good. :( Maybe I was a little bit too fast. Just one thing: > Note that the SandyBridge that you have purchased has been phased out > by Intel relatively recently - a

[Freedos-user] Sound in (Free)DOS

2021-10-02 Thread ZB
>From time to time there is a question raised about "getting sound under the DOS control". Most probably the best solution is to use old ISA soundcard. But not everyone is willing to search for old -- now "obsolete" -- mobos and other peripherals; still there is other solution: to get _new_ modern

Re: [Freedos-user] Is it possible to have sound on SoundBlaster Live! CT4830 for PCI slot in FreeDOS?

2021-09-30 Thread ZB
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 10:56:41AM +0200, Karol wrote: > Is it possible to have sound on SoundBlaster Live! CT4830 for PCI slot in > FreeDOS? > > I know there is no problem with old SoundBlaster sound cards with an ISA > slot. But what is SoundBlaster Live! to PCI slot? Is it possible to emulate

Re: [Freedos-user] FDD issue

2021-08-01 Thread ZB
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 12:15:04PM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > > completed lately my DOS machine with additional 1.2 MB 5,25" FDD for > > occasional use of my old diskettes. So I have 3,5" FDD as drive A: and > > 5,25" FDD as drive B: now. > > > > But there is a problem: I can only access the drive

Re: [Freedos-user] Wrap up of FreeDOS articles

2021-07-14 Thread ZB
On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 10:15:47AM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: > I also get a lot of "I need help" emails, since my email address is on > the website. And a lot of people email me with questions about how to > use zip files. Having the whole Internet at their disposal -- along with tools like Google,

Re: [Freedos-user] Wrap up of FreeDOS articles

2021-07-14 Thread ZB
On Sat, Jul 03, 2021 at 10:56:57AM -0500, Jim Hall wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I hope you enjoyed the month-long article series on Opensource.com, > about FreeDOS. Here are the articles that ran this week, as June > wrapped up: > > "How to archive files on FreeDOS" (Zip and Unzip) > https://openso

Re: [Freedos-user] DBCS question about dosbox-x

2021-07-02 Thread ZB
Whatever you decide if it means additional overhead on kernel (very likely) it would be good idea to separate "CJK-enabled" and "non-CJK" kernels, since this is very specific ability, not useful for everyone -- regards, Zbigniew ___ Freedos-user mailin

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread ZB
Maybe let's start with this: how is your HDD partitioned and do you use any boot-loader utility to load FreeDOS? If so - how its FreeDOS section looks like? -- regards, Zbigniew ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://l

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread ZB
On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 08:40:25AM -0700, Andrew wrote: > Ive installed different operating systems on the two hdds I have, over 15 > times in total between them all. Every time DOS and 98 installs fine, > freedos always gives the same error. And if I boot from bios to cd to hdd, > freedos also wo

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos Install Problem

2021-06-09 Thread ZB
On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 07:37:30AM -0700, Andrew wrote: > 2) The error simply says disk read error in the pentium 2. Isn't it clear enough? You've got some sort of hardware problem. Try different cables, different HDD etc. -- regards, Zbigniew ___ Fr

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

2021-05-01 Thread ZB
On Sat, May 01, 2021 at 10:57:09PM +1000, Bryan Kilgallin wrote: > Our enemies bless us by telling us our weaknesses! It's not about supposed "weakness" of (Free)DOS; it's about weakness of that "tester", who doesn't want to "waste" time learning. He doesn't want DOS; he wants "kind of other Wind

Re: [Freedos-user] Forwarding and commenting a FreeDOS 1.3rc3 critical review

2021-04-30 Thread ZB
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 05:18:11PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > Which better SYSINFO utilities could we bundle? HWINFO, NSSI > and VC probably are all closed source, what else is out there? Disk Navigator? But, actually, why are you so upset about this review? You won't please the Windows' user; he

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-15 Thread ZB
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 01:15:30PM +, Deposite Pirate wrote: > The mainstream is the domain of the followers, those who don't have a clue. The mainstream is a source of new hardware and software -- whether you like it, or you don't -- regards, Zbigniew _

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-15 Thread ZB
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 06:17:15PM +, Deposite Pirate wrote: > Because there is no such thing as a "retro" or "ancient" computer. > That wording is programmed obsolescence propaganda. Yes, there is. When new software is created only by hobbyists -- no longer by companies -- and also new hardw

Re: [Freedos-user] Why do you use DOS

2021-04-14 Thread ZB
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 08:59:05AM -0700, Johnpaul Humphrey wrote: > So my question is, why do YOU use FreeDOS? > Is it primarily nostalgia? Legacy program support? Speed? Visit sites like "vetusware" and you'll see that there's plenty of programs that can still be useful today, while being used

Re: [Freedos-user] DOS Audio

2021-03-06 Thread ZB
On Sat, Mar 06, 2021 at 05:01:15PM -0500, Jerome Shidel wrote: > If not, do you know of any good Sound Baster compatible PCI cards? The ones that use Yamaha YMF724/744 chips https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=48133 -- regards, Zbigniew ___ Fr

Re: [Freedos-user] num lock

2021-03-03 Thread ZB
On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 03:34:24AM +0100, Tomas By wrote: > On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 03:16:19 +0100, ZB wrote: > > > > http://home.mnet-online.de/willybilly/fdhelp-internet/en/hhstndrd/cnfigsys/numlock.htm > > > Thanks. Maybe this should be under freedos.org somewhere, an

Re: [Freedos-user] num lock

2021-03-02 Thread ZB
On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 03:05:19AM +0100, Tomas By wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there a way to set num lock at start-up? Like this: > > http://www.easydos.com/numlock.html http://home.mnet-online.de/willybilly/fdhelp-internet/en/hhstndrd/cnfigsys/numlock.htm -- regards, Zbigniew __

Re: [Freedos-user] CuteMouse v2.1 beta4

2021-02-13 Thread ZB
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 04:38:52PM -0800, Ralf Quint wrote: > That is rather hazy, as in your initial post, you only mentioned you tried > "keyboard only", which is not the same as using another mouse (driver)... Just tried gmouse driver, and this one gave no problem. Yesterday I tried CuteMouse

Re: [Freedos-user] CuteMouse v2.1 beta4

2021-02-12 Thread ZB
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 03:35:13PM -0800, Ralf Quint wrote: > And have you tried both another mouse and another mouse driver to determine > that the problem is indeed with Cutemouse? The problem indeed seems to be in the Cutemouse, since without Cutemouse I see no problem anymore. Only if Cutemou

Re: [Freedos-user] CuteMouse v2.1 beta4

2021-02-12 Thread ZB
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 11:54:33PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > Which hardware are you using My trusted Soyo-SiS mobo with Fellowes "Combo" mouse. > and which command line options have you tried? At the moment just "mouse /3" (Microsoft mode). > Have you compared to other > cutemouse versions, in

[Freedos-user] CuteMouse v2.1 beta4

2021-02-12 Thread ZB
I've got a feeling there's something in a need for fix; I tried today to play Civilization, but using this mouse driver the game always has been hung after relatively short period of time (like 30-40 moves) and then I wasn't able to do any more input (it was beeping at me like in case of keyboard b

Re: [Freedos-user] A different approach

2021-02-04 Thread ZB
On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 04:35:07PM -0600, Jim Hall wrote: > But I'm always on the lookout for an inexpensive Intel-based hobby system > that would run FreeDOS. I spoke with an embedded systems company a month or > two ago, and they are in development of an Intel embedded board with a BIOS > and VG

[Freedos-user] A different approach

2021-02-03 Thread ZB
Build mini MSDOS gaming PC - NO EMULATION! PC104 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBsv-jRiIT8 (Using PC/104 components to build a mini 486 MSDOS gaming PC) -- regards, Zbigniew ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://

Re: [Freedos-user] program installation (files from floppies)

2021-01-27 Thread ZB
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 12:31:13AM +0100, Tomas By wrote: > I can see some other fairly ridiculous possibilities, like installing > it somewhere else and copying the directory, but is there no way to do > it directly in Freedos? It's not FreeDOS' fault; it's programmers' fault. I mean the one, wh

Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?

2021-01-02 Thread ZB
On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 08:08:11PM +, Joao Silva wrote: > In DOS you have to type everything and Windows you have to click everything. > > DOS = No GUI. > > it's Better, Faster... Ditto. Aren't we fed up with these "GUIs" everywhere? Really a pity that since a longer time I cannot use Lynx,

Re: [Freedos-user] IDE <-> CF adapters

2020-12-24 Thread ZB
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 02:00:31PM +0100, tom ehlert wrote: > this obviously doesn't depend on time, but on the way you use it, in > particular how much you write to it. BTW: professional photographers use their CF-cards much more intensively than I am using it as HDD replacement. Here's a whole

Re: [Freedos-user] IDE <-> CF adapters

2020-12-24 Thread ZB
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 02:00:31PM +0100, tom ehlert wrote: > > >> 1. This is bad idea - use flash cards for swap or more modern os (like all > >> windows). I had experience with 16 TF cards, which die after 1 year > >> (rewrite > >> limit). All 16 cards work in non-overloaded machines. > > > M

Re: [Freedos-user] IDE <-> CF adapters

2020-12-24 Thread ZB
On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 02:37:44PM +0100, DosWorld via Freedos-user wrote: > 1. This is bad idea - use flash cards for swap or more modern os (like all > windows). I had experience with 16 TF cards, which die after 1 year (rewrite > limit). All 16 cards work in non-overloaded machines. My CF card

Re: [Freedos-user] Microsoft 8086 Assembler

2020-12-22 Thread ZB
On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 07:30:46PM -0500, Marv wrote: > I installed MASM before I realized there are a couple of assemblers listed > on the FreeDos software page. The Flat Assembler seems especially well > supported. Is anyone here familiar with FASM? MASM is probably overkill for > my purpose and

Re: [Freedos-user] AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

2020-12-15 Thread ZB
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 02:37:49PM +0100, Mateusz Viste wrote: > > Guys, I have no issues with AMB neither any other new invention - but... > > maybe simpler solution would be to copy solution offered by Tk's "text > > widget"? The "side advantage" would be ability to browse the texts prepared > >

Re: [Freedos-user] AMB, Ancient Machine Book format and FreeDOS Help

2020-12-14 Thread ZB
Guys, I have no issues with AMB neither any other new invention - but... maybe simpler solution would be to copy solution offered by Tk's "text widget"? The "side advantage" would be ability to browse the texts prepared such way under every OS where Tk toolkit is available. Some more details: ht

Re: [Freedos-user] Package discussion

2020-12-14 Thread ZB
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 09:14:44AM +0100, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On 14/12/2020 01:22, ZB wrote: > > I think before taking such decision it would be worthy to browse the list > > again, but after doing "sort by size desc" first. Because the bigger the > > file the m

Re: [Freedos-user] Package discussion

2020-12-13 Thread ZB
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 06:05:08PM -0600, Jim Hall wrote: > What do you think? I think before taking such decision it would be worthy to browse the list again, but after doing "sort by size desc" first. Because the bigger the file the more closely it's worthy to look at it "is there a common need

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

2020-12-04 Thread ZB
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 09:36:29PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > > Yes, but for starters the "modest" programming languages could be included: > > GW BASIC, 2-3 Forth compilers (they're tiny in size), C--, XPL0 etc. If I'm > > Nobody programs useful stuff with GW BASIC, C-- or XPL0. I meant LEARNING

Re: [Freedos-user] What do you do with your FreeDos PC?

2020-12-04 Thread ZB
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 03:17:52PM -0500, Marv wrote: > I'm wide open to any ideas. Just browse "Vetusware" and see; for many applications DOS is still relevant today. No particular need to fill your HDD up with 100 MB sized applications, when 100-200 KB ones do about the same thing. Just maybe t

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

2020-12-04 Thread ZB
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 08:59:03PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > > Maybe, but 90% of FreeDOS users don't need programming languages > > Well it is open source, so it is good to show users > what coding can mean ;-) Yes, but for starters the "modest" programming languages could be included: GW BASIC,

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

2020-12-04 Thread ZB
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 08:26:46PM +0100, Eric Auer wrote: > > "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB CD" > > Even then I disagree. While you could fill entire DVD with > stuff for DOS, a FreeDOS CD could be a lot smaller That's why I meant 650 MB CD, not 4 GB DVD. > Just the 3 most c

Re: [Freedos-user] Make sure your opinion is heard

2020-12-04 Thread ZB
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 07:08:03PM +0100, tom ehlert wrote: > luckily for "FreeDOS", developement has stalled. > otherwise "FreeDOS" would be PetaBytes to download. Why petabytes? I believe there could be "sane boundary" established; for example: "FreeDOS installation has to fit standard 650 MB C

Re: [Freedos-user] Multi-Boot with Windows 2000 and FreeDOS

2020-11-14 Thread ZB
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 04:40:00PM +0100, Tomas By wrote: > Installing Linux last has always worked for me. I'm sure there is some > way to use only the boot loader (or whatever it is). Indeed - on one of my machines I use multi-boot DOS/OpenBSD/ForthOS/Windows/Kolibri - and I copied Grub 0.97 (f

Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

2020-11-12 Thread ZB
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 07:01:07PM -0500, Marv wrote: > I did order an external USB floppy to make it easier to trade small files > with my other computers. > > And the best news is my LAN came up first try! So won't it be more comfortable to share these files using network? -- regards, Zbignie

Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

2020-11-11 Thread ZB
Maybe "generic" NE2000 packet driver will do (I mean FreeDOS)? Something like this: https://dos.retro.software/downloads/download/300-ne2000-compatible-nic-drivers/1470-ne2000-packet-driver -- regards, Zbigniew ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedo

Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

2020-11-07 Thread ZB
On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 11:23:49AM -0500, Marv wrote: > You have a good point. I'm ready to give up on this motherboard and find an > older (and cheap) desktop with appropriate card slots. Too bad - this board > has some things I wanted like serial, parallel, PS2, VGA, plus HDMI, > USB2/USB3, and

Re: [Freedos-user] PCI Express Network Adapter Board for FreeDos

2020-11-07 Thread ZB
On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 10:45:31AM -0500, Jerome Shidel wrote: > Have you tried any of the drivers from > http://www.georgpotthast.de/sioux/packet.htm ? If I may suggest something: maybe instead of trying to "rape" obviously DOS-incompatible hardware it would be better idea to run FreeDOS on har

Re: [Freedos-user] Is there such a thing as an add-on SATA host controller that works with DOS?

2020-10-24 Thread ZB
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 01:53:49PM +0200, tom ehlert wrote: > >> Considering how late FAT32 support came to the > >> DOS family of OSes I would understand why no manufacturer of SATA add-on > >> host controller bothered with DOS support. So I am wondering if there is > >> actually such a thing as

Re: [Freedos-user] Is there such a thing as an add-on SATA host controller that works with DOS?

2020-10-24 Thread ZB
On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 08:14:44AM +, Deposite Pirate wrote: > Considering how late FAT32 support came to the > DOS family of OSes I would understand why no manufacturer of SATA add-on > host controller bothered with DOS support. So I am wondering if there is > actually such a thing as an add-

Re: [Freedos-user] Old BIOS issue

2020-10-19 Thread ZB
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 07:20:32PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > It basically says there are many ways in which hardware or > software could fail to handle the year, but you do not say > WHICH of them affect YOU. In particular, you could give it > a try and change that "19" to "20" in your CMOS memory

Re: [Freedos-user] Old BIOS issue

2020-10-17 Thread ZB
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 08:47:35PM +, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user wrote: > There's Y2KPatch which did the job on the dozen-or-so computers I had access > to at the time. Be warned, however, that I make absolutely no guarantees as > to how it will work on your system... I was a very yo

Re: [Freedos-user] Old BIOS issue

2020-10-17 Thread ZB
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 07:31:02PM +0200, userbeit...@abwesend.de wrote: > Wow! Thanks for the link to Y2kure! This is the fix I absolutely prefer > for most of my older systems, since I deem any meddling with the BIOS > too dangerous... I just don't have the know-how to repair a possible > failur

Re: [Freedos-user] Old BIOS issue

2020-10-17 Thread ZB
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 01:39:41AM +0800, TK Chia wrote: > I guess it cannot hurt to ask a few questions: > > 1) What does the PC say that the "current date" is, at startup? It properly keeps hour:minutes, month and day - just changes the "year" always to "2094". I came up with workaround - s

Re: [Freedos-user] Old BIOS issue

2020-10-17 Thread ZB
On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 06:44:20PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > Hi! In which sense do you suffer from which bug exactly? > > Does int 1a function 4 return the wrong century? Wrong > year? Wrong other date fields and function 5 fails to > let you fix it? A simple TSR could override those calls. > >

[Freedos-user] Old BIOS issue

2020-10-17 Thread ZB
Does there exist any DIY to fix "millennium bug" in old BIOS (no update available, unfortunately)? I mean "real fix, not workaround" - finding the proper cells in BIOS, modifying contents accordingly, burning... done -- regards, Zbigniew ___ Freedos-us

Re: [Freedos-user] ssd on eeepc

2020-09-29 Thread ZB
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:48:25AM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > > I was just pondering whether it was possible to squeeze any sound out of > > that gear using the tool like this one http://www.georgpotthast.de/dossound/ > > or any other similar > > This is an AC97 driver which provides a special int

Re: [Freedos-user] ssd on eeepc

2020-09-28 Thread ZB
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 02:45:02AM +0200, Tomas By wrote: > > Did you have any Soundblaster-like sound on that gear? > > It just says "onboard audio" in the BIOS. > > Apparently the version I have is too old for copy to support the /S > switch, so was not able to test an old game I have. I was

Re: [Freedos-user] ssd on eeepc

2020-09-28 Thread ZB
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 02:05:58AM +0200, Tomas By wrote: > I did this a couple of years ago on an Eeepc 701, and I ended up with > only Freedos, after trying several Linux distributions. Cannot > remember details unfortunately. Did you have any Soundblaster-like sound on that gear? -- regards,

Re: [Freedos-user] ssd on eeepc

2020-09-28 Thread ZB
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 07:15:28PM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > > I was thinking of installing Linux Xubuntu for it's low resources. > > I did that on an ancient notebook that had a whopping *256MB* RAM. > Xubuntu would install, but performance left a lot to be desired. I recall the time when one c

Re: [Freedos-user] ssd on eeepc

2020-09-28 Thread ZB
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 11:13:49PM +0100, Joao Silva wrote: > I have a eeepc laptop originally came with windows xp and i switched to > windows 10 N, but sadly is too slow... turtle mode. I was thinking of > installing Linux XUbuntu for it's low resources. > > A friend of my IT guy "is nagging" m

Re: [Freedos-user] New to DOS - 486

2020-09-25 Thread ZB
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 04:28:45PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > Of course there might be a few games which do use > acceleration features of the card, but for my first > PCI card, it was only the game which came bundled > with it :-) It actually depends on requirements; to me for most cases that (lo

Re: [Freedos-user] New to DOS - 486

2020-09-25 Thread ZB
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > Is that with EMM386 NOEMS option? I expect EMS 3.2 to > be rarely necessary and with NOEMS you can still use > EMS 4.0 which people often forget. With 64k extra UMB. I didn't write down the particular results and conditions - just noted

Re: [Freedos-user] New to DOS - 486

2020-09-24 Thread ZB
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 12:45:46PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > Actually you can even find relatively modern quad core > computers with IDE :-) The problem is that when you want > DOS compatible sound hardware, you want something with > ISA slots and those went out of fashion 20 years ago. > > Also,

Re: [Freedos-user] FDD issue

2020-09-19 Thread ZB
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 07:36:04PM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > > http://www.malinov.com/Home/sergeys-projects/xt-cf-lite > > Not a solution for me. The XT clone is an *XT* clone. That's an IDE > CF Adaptor card, and the old XT clone doesn't have IDE slots. It > predates IDE. It's just its name

Re: [Freedos-user] FDD issue

2020-09-19 Thread ZB
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 04:28:00PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > About your missing 10 kB: That might be extra driver > data, extra BIOS data, a virus, depends. Just telling > DOS to use them anyway will not be the solution. You > could use DEBUG to see what is in those 10 kB. I browsed memory using

Re: [Freedos-user] FDD issue

2020-09-19 Thread ZB
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 07:19:46PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi again :-) > > >>> > >>> https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/1452/only-drive-a-detected-with-two-floppy-disk-drives > >> > >> It says controllers after 2003 tend to no longer support > >> more than one drive at the

Re: [Freedos-user] FDD issue

2020-09-19 Thread ZB
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 05:04:10PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > Any memory allocated BEFORE DOS starts will be shown as > "there is less than 640k of memory". For example extra > data used by BIOS extensions, a bootable MEMDISK, some > tools which load before DOS to provide LBA support on > computers

Re: [Freedos-user] FDD issue

2020-09-19 Thread ZB
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 12:15:04PM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > My old 32 bit desktop has a half height combo 3.5"/5.25" floppy drive. > It was originally seen as drives A: and B:, and which was seen as > which was controlled by a jumper setting on the drive. That went away > in an emergency motherb

Re: [Freedos-user] FDD issue

2020-09-19 Thread ZB
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 04:28:00PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > About your missing 10 kB: That might be extra driver > data, extra BIOS data, a virus, depends. Just telling > DOS to use them anyway will not be the solution. You > could use DEBUG to see what is in those 10 kB. You mean "extra driver

[Freedos-user] Where is my 10 KB?

2020-09-19 Thread ZB
And another riddle: "mem /c/p" on the motherboard I use (Asrock K7S8XE) shows just 630K of "Conventional memory"; of course it has consequence in "Largest available program size". Is it possible to somehow recover that "lost" 10 KB? -- regards, Zbigniew _

[Freedos-user] FDD issue

2020-09-19 Thread ZB
Hello, completed lately my DOS machine with additional 1.2 MB 5,25" FDD for occasional use of my old diskettes. So I have 3,5" FDD as drive A: and 5,25" FDD as drive B: now. But there is a problem: I can only access the drive A: - never both drives on a whim. So to access 5,25" drive I have to "s

Re: [Freedos-user] New to DOS - 486

2020-09-15 Thread ZB
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 12:45:46PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > Actually you can even find relatively modern quad core > computers with IDE :-) The problem is that when you want > DOS compatible sound hardware, you want something with > ISA slots and those went out of fashion 20 years ago. Yes, that

Re: [Freedos-user] Some networking present

2020-09-07 Thread ZB
On Mon, Sep 07, 2020 at 07:48:33PM +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote: > They are indeed - I've spent more nights than I can count debugging EtherDFS > and EthFlop while battling with random freezes, memory corruptions, suddenly > hanging games and such. TSRs are truly a toxic environment. But it's part o

Re: [Freedos-user] Some networking present

2020-09-06 Thread ZB
On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 02:07:43PM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > See http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Networking_FreeDOS_-_NTCPDRV Thanks, I can see there confirmation it's free for personal use: #v+ Licensing issues on this site are kept short and simple: "These DOS applications are provi

Re: [Freedos-user] Some networking present

2020-09-06 Thread ZB
On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 07:52:05PM +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote: > And the Trumpet TSR itself does not appear to be free: > http://www.trumpet.com.au/index.php/products/tcpip-driver.html >From what I see there it's paid only for >=10 units (so probably in case of "corporate use" or similar) -- reg

Re: [Freedos-user] Some networking present

2020-09-06 Thread ZB
On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 06:43:34PM +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote: > Trumpet is a networking TSR, while Wattcp, Watt-32 and mTCP are libraries > embedded into the executable. Completely different approaches. Perhaps it could be feasible to improve the programs to make them follow such simple algorith

Re: [Freedos-user] Some networking present

2020-09-06 Thread ZB
On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 03:49:41PM +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote: > Sounds good indeed. Is FDNPKG or Gopherus working as well? They rely on > Watt-32 and Wattcp, respectively. The latter does not have DHCP support > IIRC. Now it sounds even better: after I downloaded newest versions of mTCP package

Re: [Freedos-user] Some networking present

2020-09-06 Thread ZB
On Sun, Sep 06, 2020 at 03:49:41PM +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote: > Sounds good indeed. Is FDNPKG or Gopherus working as well? They rely on > Watt-32 and Wattcp, respectively. The latter does not have DHCP support > IIRC. No, they don't work with my configuration. Although I have network "up and ru

Re: [Freedos-user] No network

2020-09-06 Thread ZB
On Sat, Sep 05, 2020 at 11:53:42PM +, Deposite Pirate wrote: > September 6, 2020 1:40 AM, "ZB" wrote: > > - loads 3c5x9pd.com packet driver > > The latest/newer version of 3c5x9pd.com doesn't work. You have to get the > older one. Not sure is it the last

[Freedos-user] Some networking present

2020-09-05 Thread ZB
Partial success - it turned out I was expecting too much. I still cannot rely on the tools shipped with FreeDOS (I mean the ones by M. Brutman) - but some of the utilities from that old Trumpet 2.01 package seem to work, just they are (compared to Linux tools) rather cumbersome, that's why I thoug

[Freedos-user] No network

2020-09-05 Thread ZB
Trying to do some networking from within FreeDOS - no luck so far. I'm using 3C509 ISA networking adaptor. It went just fine all the test using its testing utility, it autoconfigured with no complainings, and when I run batch file that loaded packet drivers the LED diode on my router went lit, so

Re: [Freedos-user] Dosemu on its own - does it exist?

2020-09-03 Thread ZB
On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 12:52:32PM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > What you are talking about are full blown Virtual Machine setups. The > VM sits between the host machine's hardware and the OS to be > virtualized. Examples in the commercial software world include things > like VMWare Actually I was h

Re: [Freedos-user] Dosemu on its own - does it exist?

2020-09-02 Thread ZB
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 04:23:47PM +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote: > I wonder how far one could get with just an emulated 8086 core, 640K of > mapped memory and a simulated BIOS. At the moment I know next to nothing about that "virtual x86 mode" - and I was hoping that CPU can be made to switch to th

Re: [Freedos-user] Dosemu on its own - does it exist?

2020-09-02 Thread ZB
On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 03:56:26PM +0200, Mateusz Viste wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DESQview Indeed I recall that name - but somehow never used it before. Does it do exactly what I've described? Like - for example - I could "split" 486 into four x86 CPUs, then I can use one instance to

[Freedos-user] Dosemu on its own - does it exist?

2020-09-02 Thread ZB
If I'm correct, Dosemu uses "virtual x86 mode" of 386 and later processors. But Dosemu of course needs "host OS". I wonder does there exist any utility that offers "virtual x86 mode" and acts as "host" by itself? Suppose we have (quite modest for today) computer with 386/486 and 4 MB RAM. Theoreti

Re: [Freedos-user] A few suggestions to improve debug

2020-09-01 Thread ZB
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 09:16:54PM -0500, Jon Brase wrote: > Recall that FreeDOS isn't just about having a FOSS alternative to MS-DOS > for modern machines (where you're really better off just using Linux and > DOSBox), or for your early-90s 486 retrogaming machine, it's also meant > to be an alte

Re: [Freedos-user] A few suggestions to improve debug

2020-08-31 Thread ZB
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 05:07:14PM -0400, dmccunney wrote: > One of the most popular was Chris Dunford's CED. The following from > the CED docs is relevant: Thanks, I'll try to examine it. Still my suggestion is to make all these tools of FreeDOS, that offer command line - better. There's really

Re: [Freedos-user] A few suggestions to improve debug

2020-08-31 Thread ZB
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 12:40:34PM -0700, Ralf Quint wrote: > If you are trying to keep 20 lines in the "history" and even assuming you > limit the length of an entry line to 40 characters, that's already 800 > bytes, just for the buffer space... ...IN RAM, not in program code. :) > But in any c

Re: [Freedos-user] A few suggestions to improve debug

2020-08-31 Thread ZB
One more I'm less interested in, but maybe it would be useful for the others? I mean assuming we have full control over cursor movement as already described - the "Ins" key could be a switch between default "insert" and alternative "overwrite" mode (if not too complicated to implement) -- regards

Re: [Freedos-user] A few suggestions to improve debug

2020-08-31 Thread ZB
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 08:11:48PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > Mercury also suggests Ctrl-Arrow for word-wise cursor movements. Alternatively we could use PgUp/PgDn for this, which aren't used (and probably won't be used for anything) by debug. This could have advantage of "Control" not being invol

Re: [Freedos-user] A few suggestions to improve debug

2020-08-31 Thread ZB
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 08:11:48PM +0200, Eric Auer wrote: > It can harm if you do batch processing. And WHY do you perform "r" > at the start? I always only look at "r" AFTER doing things which > will have sent interesting data to the registers, NOT before. Just realized it's an old habit :D if

Re: [Freedos-user] A few suggestions to improve debug

2020-08-31 Thread ZB
On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 11:10:56AM -0700, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 8/31/2020 10:44 AM, ZB wrote: > > 1. I believe it would be handy if it could immediately after its start > >perform 'r' (show registers' contents). Usually we're going to have > >a lo

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