Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Duncan Webb
On Wed, 17 January, 2007 7:16 am, mike lewis wrote: > Michael, > > > Please calm down. Everyone know's what mixer.py does; and I can vouch > that most of them understand your intent for sixmixer is. > > As freevo is in such a feature rich space; requirements are discussed > openly. Thankyou for y

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Gorka Olaizola
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 09:42:13PM -0800, Michael Beal wrote: > > Before _anyone_ reads any further, open up and read the source code for > "mixer.py" and then answer the following question: Does mixer.py "mix" > audio channels or does it only adjust volume? Dischi, you wrote > "mixer.py" and it

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread mike lewis
Michael, Please calm down. Everyone know's what mixer.py does; and I can vouch that most of them understand your intent for sixmixer is. As freevo is in such a feature rich space; requirements are discussed openly. Thankyou for your contribution and I can't wait to see when you something that c

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Michael Beal
This is the straw that broke the camel's back... It seems so few actually listen to the comments being made. This thread has gone several different directions and has gone way off track from it's original intent. This tells me no one is _really_ listening and I cannot abide this level of communi

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Gorka Olaizola
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 09:02:02PM +0100, Duncan Webb wrote: > > There is another way to do this which may only work with MPlayer and > that is to use the -af pan option. > I did an mplayer wrapper script that copied the front channels to the rear channels an added center and subwoofer. It also ad

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Michael Beal
Guys and Gals, this is what I'm talking about when I speak of not reading and understanding the whole post... Before _anyone_ reads any further, open up and read the source code for "mixer.py" and then answer the following question: Does mixer.py "mix" audio channels or does it only adjust volume?

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Richard van Paasen
- Oorspronkelijk bericht - From: Dirk Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Michael Beal wrote: > > I feel that Freevo has become overly complicated and needs to be > > streamlined. > > That is what Freevo 2.0 is doing. Freevo 1.x is very complex with too > many dependencies and modules accessing

Re: [Freevo-devel] kaa does bad free and crashes

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 21:37 +0100, Pierre Ossman wrote: > I just wanted to point out that kaa does the wrong deallocation here and > there. In Python 2.5 this causes crashes. Indeed. > I found others here and there though so a general review is probably in > order. Looks like just shmmodule and

[Freevo-devel] kaa does bad free and crashes

2007-01-16 Thread Pierre Ossman
Hi guys! I just wanted to point out that kaa does the wrong deallocation here and there. In Python 2.5 this causes crashes. The one biting me in the ass is in imlib2: Index: imlib2/src/image.c === --- imlib2/src/image.c (revision 2

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Duncan Webb
Michael Beal wrote: > I don't want to seem like I'm jumping back in and complaining from the > start but > > Where did everyone get the idea that I'm working on an audio re-encoder? > > I'm building an audio _control_ not a re-encoder. My motherboard > supports 6-channel audio out via shar

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 20:49 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote: > Yes, this is also what I plan. But other config tools like a gtk app > could also be possible. kaa.config has everything we need: name, type > and description. Fair enough. And a mozilla about:config style configurator would be trivial to bui

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Dirk Meyer
Jason Tackaberry wrote: >> I don't see much hope for Freevo 1.x to get an easy config app. It is >> just because that we use python code as config file. To keep it >> simple, we have kaa.config for 2.0 and it should be easy to write a >> config gui for it. > > I disagree with the direction of a gtk

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 20:20 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote: > That is what Freevo 2.0 is doing. Freevo 1.x is very complex with too > many dependencies and modules accessing some stuff from others. Like > you wrote before, some plugins access internal stuff of the mixer. To > avoid that we moved many part

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Dirk Meyer
Michael Beal wrote: > I feel that Freevo has become overly complicated and needs to be > streamlined. That is what Freevo 2.0 is doing. Freevo 1.x is very complex with too many dependencies and modules accessing some stuff from others. Like you wrote before, some plugins access internal stuff of

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Dirk Meyer
Michael Beal wrote: > Although I think the idea of an on-the-fly audio reencoder would be > great, the practicalities of such a tool aren't realistic, at least > not to me. In math terms, X-channel_audio -> mplayer -> remixing > app -> ffmpeg -> Audio_out = MASSIVE CPU time. My target for > devel

Re: [Freevo-devel] [Freevo-cvslog] Kaa r2409 - in trunk: popcorn/src/backends/mplayer

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 12:17 -0500, Jason Tackaberry wrote: > On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 18:08 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote: > > > if isinstance(self._window, kaa.display.X11Window) or 1: > > > -wid = hex(self._window.get_id()) > > > +wid = "0x%x" % self._window.get_id() > > >

Re: [Freevo-devel] Kaa r2409 - in trunk: popcorn/src/backends/mplayer

2007-01-16 Thread Dirk Meyer
Jason Tackaberry wrote: > On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 18:08 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote: >> > if isinstance(self._window, kaa.display.X11Window) or 1: >> > -wid = hex(self._window.get_id()) >> > +wid = "0x%x" % self._window.get_id() >> > if wid.endswith('L'): >>

Re: [Freevo-devel] Xine OSD text and positioning

2007-01-16 Thread Richard van Paasen
- Oorspronkelijk bericht - From: Jason Tackaberry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 16:25 +0100, Richard van Paasen wrote: > > I need to get a working fb environment to do the testing on fbxine. It will > > take a while. but I'll notify the xine developers and submit a patch for

Re: [Freevo-devel] Xine OSD text and positioning

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 19:22 +0100, Richard van Paasen wrote: > > Note when you submit a patch, attach it to the email (uncompressed > > unless it is larger than 80KB) and prefix the subject with [PATCH]. It > > will improve chances of review. > > Sounds like every project has its way of working :

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Michael Beal
Not all sound files will contain the requested number of channels. Most MP3's and OGG files are 2-channel. Many US television broadcasts are also 2-channel while the majority are still 1-channel. DVD's, SVCD's and VCD's which have been recorded in 5.1 or 6.0 audio will have the requisite numb

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Michael Beal
Dirk Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "mike lewis" wrote: > I use hwac3 in mplayer and most things sound fine. Ig uess things are > different when mixing to six chanel out as opposed to coax or > optical??? > > I use my amp to decoe the ac3 and control each channels volume. That > being said, I

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Michael Beal
I don't want to seem like I'm jumping back in and complaining from the start but Where did everyone get the idea that I'm working on an audio re-encoder? I'm building an audio _control_ not a re-encoder. My motherboard supports 6-channel audio out via shared audio jacks. I have

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Dirk Meyer
Gorka Olaizola wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 02:54:32PM +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote: >> >> I always wonder if there would be some alsa setting (or something >> else) that would transform a x channel sound to AC3 on-the-fly. >> > It seems that from Alsa 1.0.14-rc1 on there is an a52 plugin that > en

Re: [Freevo-devel] [Freevo-cvslog] Kaa r2409 - in trunk: popcorn/src/backends/mplayer

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 18:08 +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote: > > if isinstance(self._window, kaa.display.X11Window) or 1: > > -wid = hex(self._window.get_id()) > > +wid = "0x%x" % self._window.get_id() > > if wid.endswith('L'): > > wid = wid[:-

Re: [Freevo-devel] Kaa r2409 - in trunk: popcorn/src/backends/mplayer

2007-01-16 Thread Dirk Meyer
Jason Tackaberry wrote: > Modified: trunk/popcorn/src/backends/mplayer/player.py > == > --- trunk/popcorn/src/backends/mplayer/player.py (original) > +++ trunk/popcorn/src/backends/mplayer/player.py Tue Jan 16 15:

Re: [Freevo-devel] Xine OSD text and positioning

2007-01-16 Thread Jason Tackaberry
On Tue, 2007-01-16 at 16:25 +0100, Richard van Paasen wrote: > I need to get a working fb environment to do the testing on fbxine. It will > take a while. but I'll notify the xine developers and submit a patch for > fbxine later. Note when you submit a patch, attach it to the email (uncompressed u

Re: [Freevo-devel] Xine OSD text and positioning

2007-01-16 Thread Richard van Paasen
- Oorspronkelijk bericht - From: Dirk Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Richard van Paasen" wrote: > > I wrote an enhancement for the stdctlmode in xine: > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1635452&group_id=9655&atid=359655 > > Without checking: did you remeber to als

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Gorka Olaizola
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 02:54:32PM +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote: > > I always wonder if there would be some alsa setting (or something > else) that would transform a x channel sound to AC3 on-the-fly. > It seems that from Alsa 1.0.14-rc1 on there is an a52 plugin that encodes AC3 in realtime. It uses l

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Gorka Olaizola
On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 02:54:32PM +0100, Dirk Meyer wrote: > > I always wonder if there would be some alsa setting (or something > else) that would transform a x channel sound to AC3 on-the-fly. > I tried to do something like that with jackd and ac3jack[1] but ac3jack segfaulted on my system. It

Re: [Freevo-devel] Xine OSD text and positioning

2007-01-16 Thread Dirk Meyer
"Richard van Paasen" wrote: > I wrote an enhancement for the stdctlmode in xine: > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1635452&group_id=9655&atid=359655 Without checking: did you remeber to also patch fbxine? Dischi -- One nuclear bomb can ruin your whole day. pgpZjAuEA

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Michael Beal
Duncan Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: May I suggest that any enhacements that you would like to do for the release 1 series of Freevo are done against the svn branch rel-1, see the contributing section of the freevo wiki for details on how to get it. I don't commit any changes except bug fixe

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Dirk Meyer
"mike lewis" wrote: > I use hwac3 in mplayer and most things sound fine. Ig uess things are > different when mixing to six chanel out as opposed to coax or > optical??? > > I use my amp to decoe the ac3 and control each channels volume. That > being said, I am not avert to a 'sound' menu to manua

Re: [Freevo-devel] Back in the game

2007-01-16 Thread Michael Beal
mike lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I use hwac3 in mplayer and most things sound fine. Ig uess things are different when mixing to six chanel out as opposed to coax or optical??? I use my amp to decoe the ac3 and control each channels volume. That being said, I am not avert to a 'sound' menu

Re: [Freevo-devel] [Freevo-cvslog] Kaa r2401 - trunk/canvas/test/data

2007-01-16 Thread Rob Shortt
Dirk Meyer wrote: > Arial is not a free font and does not belong into our svn. > We should define Vera as default font and it it. I had a funny feeling you were going to say that. :) -Rob - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence

Re: [Freevo-devel] Long running Command (fdx) crashes Freevo

2007-01-16 Thread Duncan Webb
On Tue, 16 January, 2007 10:44 am, Mika Orajärvi wrote: > Hi, > I'm using Freevo 1.7.0-rc2, but this same problem has been around at least > since 1.5.x. > > I have the following fdx which I use to start xine for vdr usage: > > > - > > > > /home/htpc/startup_

[Freevo-devel] Long running Command (fdx) crashes Freevo

2007-01-16 Thread Mika Orajärvi
Hi, I'm using Freevo 1.7.0-rc2, but this same problem has been around at least since 1.5.x. I have the following fdx which I use to start xine for vdr usage: - /home/htpc/startup_scripts/xine_start_tv It is just a test -