Re: [FRIAM] CUSF and Higher Educamacation in the City Different.

Steve, Already operating in Santa Fe are a half a dozen organizations making use of the informally credentialed to teach the informally learning, if you see what I mean. They do it very well. These organizations might need to be encouraged, perhaps, coordinated, presumably, funded, conceivab

Re: [FRIAM] PhD vs Expertise

Everybody, Sorry, by CUSF I meant www.cusf.org Nick From: Nicholas Thompson [mailto:nickthomp...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 12:34 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: RE: [FRIAM] PhD vs Expertise With his unerring

Re: [FRIAM] PhD vs Expertise

With his unerring ability to skewer the question, Steve Smith wrote: "In Nick's case, I think that he has reasons for wanting PhD folks that transcend the question of whether a non-PhD could do the same job equally well or better. It slims his options down mightily. The folks I know of who

Re: [FRIAM] vol 88, issue 12

What, in heavens name, Peggy, led you to think I believed such a proposition? (Memorization = scholarship) Do you really think, knowing my writing on the list as well as you do, that I spent my 37 years teaching undergraduates to memorize? (I actually don't HAVE a memory.) You are, or course, on

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

10, at 12:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Carl, it never occurred to me to confide in my spiders. I will reconsider that policy on your recommendation. According to my books, the brown recluse doesn't make it beyond the 100th meridian (blood or otherwise). She has a local cousin, "des

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

Carl, it never occurred to me to confide in my spiders. I will reconsider that policy on your recommendation. According to my books, the brown recluse doesn't make it beyond the 100th meridian (blood or otherwise). She has a local cousin, "desert recluse" or some such whose bite is not a pro

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

George, Are you aware that there is a Joyce Group that meets every Saturday in the Library that is doing, among other things, a line-by-line exegesis of Finnegan's Wake? Led by a man who knows huge sections of it by heart. So, if you are reading along in one passage, and you think, "ah, that

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

Steve, Far from PhD's in Santa Fe being a self aggrandizing lot, I have had a terrible time finding ones who will stand up and take pride in what they have done. It's like we were mafia lawyers, or something. And I agree with whoever point out to the list that "english" is a language, not

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

Clairborne, I absolutely agree with the restraint shown by tutors at St. Johns in "leading" discussions, but almost every tutor at St Johns has a phd in something and, in addition, has spent more or less of a professional life time reading and discussing Those Books. The effect of a few

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

Steve Smith and Lee Rudolph, and everybody, Why would I want a PhD to lead a discussion on Literature? Because, even though I was a participant in the Berkeley dustup of the sixties, I still think that expertise has its place in the world. As those of you who have participated in one of o

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

Robert, I hope you are going to compile the list when this is all over. Perhaps you could gin up a reading group for the City University of Santa Fe Spring Coffee House Seminars. Do we know anybody with a PhD in English who would lead us? Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

book (whence, partly, pace Poe, the title :-) tom On Oct 9, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Tom, You wrote This semester, in a class I am teaching, we're reading (among other things, including "Pandora's Hope" by Bruno Latour). Can you say a bit m

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

Tom, You wrote This semester, in a class I am teaching, we're reading (among other things, including "Pandora's Hope" by Bruno Latour). Can you say a bit more about the context in which you are reading these things? Nick From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun..

Re: [FRIAM] The Best 10 Fictional Works

Well, Merle: I'm a neurotic Jewish Intellectual: I just don't happen to be Jewish. Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 1:29 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity C

Re: [FRIAM] Name this spider

What about the brown recluse, which the furnace man worried about today as he disappeared into our crawl space. Oh, I guess it doesn't live here? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_recluse_spider#Distribution From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of

Re: [FRIAM] The most productive Thread of 2010!

2010! > > Hey Nick, > That's funny - may be it was Frank's recommendation that kicked things > off. But what are your top 10. So far seven titles have been > recommended more than once! Stay tuned. > Thanks > Robert > > On 10/8/10 6:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:

Re: [FRIAM] The most productive Thread of 2010!

more than once! Stay tuned. Thanks Robert On 10/8/10 6:23 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Robert, > > Didn't I hear you complain once that nobody ever paid attention to > your posts? > > You hit paydirt THIS time. > > Nick > > -Original Message- &g

Re: [FRIAM] The most productive Thread of 2010!

Robert, Didn't I hear you complain once that nobody ever paid attention to your posts? You hit paydirt THIS time. Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Robert J. Cordingley Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 1:45 PM To

[FRIAM] DNA sharing with Neandertal's

See, perhaps: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/04/AR2010100405 700_2.html?waporef=obinsite &sid=ST2010100405975 "Subsequent research this yea

Re: [FRIAM] You Have 0 Friends [why Facebook is evil]

Pamela, Banal IS evil. Hmm! Or is it the other way around. Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Pamela McCorduck Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 8:13 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject

Re: [FRIAM] You Have 0 Friends [why Facebook is evil]

Er….. um ……. What was the product? N From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of ERIC P. CHARLES Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:50 AM To: Pieter Steenekamp Cc: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] You Have 0 Friends [why Facebook is evil] Thi

[FRIAM] Badoo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dear All, What do "we" know about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badoo NB, in particular: "In a Cambridge University graduate student report, it was given the lowest score for privacy among 45 social networking sites examined.[5]

Re: [FRIAM] FRIAMer /. alert

Eric Smith, channeling Doug Roberts wrote (approximately): "What's the point of calling something an emergent? Then what?" Whereupon, Nick Thompson replied, channeling Winsatt: "It directs your attention to the configurations and timings of things and away to their compositions." Thus it

Re: [FRIAM] ABM in court?

Eric, May I say, in my liberal sort of way, that I hope that one of you does this and gets fat on it AND that there is something that bothers me about this. In my ethical world, the boundary of a tort seems to lie between those of us who profited more from the presence of the oil company t

Re: [FRIAM] The Man Behind the Complex

So "we" go to them, and say: let us at your website. If nothing changes in your hit rate, you owe us nothing. Otherwise, you owe us a penny (dime, quarter, doller, what have you) per hit in excess of , say, a year ago this time. It's known as a salvage contract: no cure, no pay. Nick

[FRIAM] fyi--or not.

All - For what it is worth, or not, Janet Napolitano was on NPR today begging people to apply for cyber-defense jobs in Virginia. "We can't hire people fast enough." I wonder if they do contracts. Nick FRIAM Applied Complexi

[FRIAM] Sean Carroll's Endless Forms

To the home congregation: I hear a rumor that somebody is Bogarting the copy of Carroll's book that I left to circulate among the group over the summer. If you have had it for a week or so, please bring it to the next FRIAM meeting or give it to someone who can. Thanks, Nick =

[FRIAM] Seminar in Evolutionary/Developmental Biology

All, The CUSF "Coffee House Seminars" will continue this fall with a discussion of the colossal new discoveries in molecular, developmental, and evolutionary biology of the last few decades. The description of the seminar is as follows: Advances in paleontology and molecular biolo

RE: [FRIAM] On Dawkins’s Atheism: A Response - Opinionator Blog - NYTimes.com

So, Owen. What is new-to-you about this? I guess the thing that get's me about Dawkins is his naive assumption that one can EVER make an argument that is not founded in some naive assumption. Somebody as sophisticated as he shouldn't be so naive. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Pro

Re: [FRIAM] Please don't yell at me.

) blog: http://russabbott.blogspot.com/ vita: http://sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ __ On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote: Nick, I tend to agree. --Doug On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Nicholas

Re: [FRIAM] Please don't yell at me.

f Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:16 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Please don't yell at me. On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > He is humming along talking about the universe since the Big Bang, &g

[FRIAM] Please don't yell at me.

This is probably an extension of the entropy.uncertainty theme. I am reading Sean Carroll's book From Eternity to Here, because I want to know just how much to hate him. He is the guy who has written the two amazing books on EvoDevo that will be the foundation for our fall seminar by that nam

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

, 2010 4:52 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Cc: russ.abb...@gmail.com; Nicholas Thompson; glen e. p. ropella Subject: Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX Nick, Maybe let me explain how I use these two "dimensions" together in my "Organic Complex Syst

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX Nick, Did you read what I wrote? I think that explains it. -- Russ On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Grant You see that I am still struggling to understand

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

But you agree that good prediction requires there to be structure or a process that provides the frame work in which a prediction can be made. Minimally, I think we assume that what we see is a feature of what is there. Not all careful observational techniques reveal the same aspect. n

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

re a predictor. It's just an arrangement in time. -- Russ On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Grant - Glad you are on board, here. I will read this carefully. Does this have anything to do with the Realism Idealism thing. Predictibility requires a p

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

ctability of being able to talk about which "arrangements" will obtain." In fact, Gibbs formula for thermodynamic entropy looks exactly like Shannon's - except for the presence of a constant in Gibbs formula. They are isomorphic! However, they are speaking to different domains

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

ibbs formula for thermodynamic entropy looks exactly like Shannon's - except for the presence of a constant in Gibbs formula. They are isomorphic! However, they are speaking to different domains. Gibbs is modeling a physics phenomena, and Shannon is modeling a mathematical statistics phenomena. The se

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

alf Of glen e. p. ropella Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:49 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX Nicholas Thompson wrote circa 08/04/2010 07:04 PM: > All of this, it seems to me, can be accommodated by - indeed requ

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

hat Nature contrives a means for > increasing that entropy. (You did say it started out low. I agree > with that. Smoothing out the gradient would increase the entropy.) > > That would increase entropy locally and globally. > > -- Russ > > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:04

Re: [FRIAM] entropy and uncertainty, REDUX

crease the entropy.) That would increase entropy locally and globally. -- Russ On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: energy FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John

Re: [FRIAM] entropic force (was Gravity as an emergent phenomenon)

Glen, You and Grant are starting to make my poor=old rejected english major's brain spin: I think I have finally seen the point of this whole discussion about gravity. Let it be the case that everything in the universe is in one spot that is low entropy right? And we all agree that the

Re: [FRIAM] NSF 2010 Call for Entries

ab.unm.edu http://sfcomplex.org On Jul 15, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: I don't know 'cause I haven't looked. Have you? -tj On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Tom, Are there any programs in NSF that might support the kind of thing you do, under the hea

Re: [FRIAM] NSF 2010 Call for Entries

Tom, Are there any programs in NSF that might support the kind of thing you do, under the heading of making scientific info available to the general public? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.

Re: [FRIAM] Gravity as an emergent phenomenon

Yes! YES! THANKYOU Grant!! I keep forgetting that crucial point. OK, all you wise guys out there. What do you say to that? Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturald

Re: [FRIAM] Gravity as an emergent phenomenon

Roger, Some how that seems less mysterious if you say, seal a beaker of SUGAR and a beaker of water in a bell jar. In time the sugar will become damp. By the way, help me out with the technology, here. Initially, what is the atmosphere in the bell jar composed of? Nick Nicholas S. Thom

Re: [FRIAM] How do you auto-create a network diagram?

steve, I don't know if this is relevant, but there was still, when I last looked, no web tool for building family timelines. Lot's of genealogy but no time line software. So, one would enter family events into a form and the software would plot those events in relation to those of other family

Re: [FRIAM] Gravity as an emergent phenomenon

Pamela, I got all ready to be huffy about the article, but then found it really interesting. At risk of going all professorial on you, I want to examine your expression, "no more than a". The most important phenomena that we experience are all emergents. If you hit me with a rock, the hardnes

Re: [FRIAM] Real-world genetic algorithm example... help!

under different circumstances. -- Russ On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: the deep paradox is how do you select for individuals that make good groups. Persumably the best groups integrate many talents, but individual selection tends to pull for slight variations

Re: [FRIAM] Real-world genetic algorithm example... help!

__ Professor, Computer Science California State University, Los Angeles cell: 310-621-3805 blog: http://russabbott.blogspot.com/ vita: http://sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ __ On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Nicholas

Re: [FRIAM] Real-world genetic algorithm example... help!

e. Sarbajit On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > John, > > Thanks. I agree. In fact, I would argue that ANY attempt to squeeze > spiritual juice from this particular example blunts it scientific edge. > > To mix a metaphor. > > N > > Nic

Re: [FRIAM] Real-world genetic algorithm example... help!

to write a chapter on Complex Adaptive Systems, for a cognitive science textbook. In it, I talk briefly about GA, and put this story about the chickens in because I thought it was a neat example. I'll add the references now. Much appreciated. -t On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Nicho

Re: [FRIAM] Real-world genetic algorithm example... help!

produces fewer eggs over a hen that produces more eggs? > > > Shawn > > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Ted Carmichael wrote: > Nick, this is perfect. Thank you! > > BTW - the reason for this request is, my advisor and I were asked to write a chapter on Complex Adaptive S

Re: [FRIAM] Real-world genetic algorithm example... help!

t, I talk briefly about GA, and put this story about the chickens in because I thought it was a neat example. I'll add the references now. Much appreciated. -t On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Ted, Ok. So, if I am correct, this was an actual EXPERIMENT done by t

Re: [FRIAM] Real-world genetic algorithm example... help!

Ted, Ok. So, if I am correct, this was an actual EXPERIMENT done by two researchers at Indiana University, I think. As I "tell" the "story", it was the practice to use individual selection to identify the most productive chickens, but the egg production method involved crates of nine chick

Re: [FRIAM] Time perspectives

Eric, I agree. The most sucessful psychologists ... the ones that made the big bucks in textbooks, etc, and in circles of admiring chicks at conferences ... are the ones who made an industry of taking conventional wisdom and repackaging it as science. I think there is some point where I join t

[FRIAM] Mosquito Infested Bog

All, Well, I 'm off the M.I.B., for the summer. Which means, only, that I wont be able to attend the Friday Prayer Meetings of the Mother Church for for the next three months. [sigh] Take good notes, everybody, and keep that copy of Endless Forms Most Beautiful circulating. I WILL be abl

Re: [FRIAM] WARNING: Political Argument in Progress

day Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 5/17/2010 5:39:20 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] WARNING: Political Argument in Progress > > Nicholas Thompson wrote circa 10-05-17 11:13 AM: > > This sounds like a problem for complexitists and control system theorists. > > Right.

[FRIAM] What Is a Philosopher? - Opinionator Blog - NYTimes.com

Jack Stafaruk forwarded this to me, and I it might be of general interest. http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/16/what-is-a-philosopher/?ref=opinion&nl=opinion&emc=tya1 I love the idea that the clock is the thief of time! Is the story of Socrates death correct as he tells it? I have

Re: [FRIAM] WARNING: Political Argument in Progress

niversity of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: glen e. p. ropella > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 5/17/2010 11:46:40 AM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] WARNING: Political Argument in Progress > > Nicholas Thompson wrote circa 10-05-17 09:08 AM: > > W

Re: [FRIAM] WARNING: Political Argument in Progress

picious of corporations, and should be more > suspicious of government. We oppose as the worst thing the melding of > corporations and government. And we see little to choose from between Sen. > Mary Landrieu (D-British Petroleum) and Dick Chaney (R-Haliburton). > > > cjf > >

Re: [FRIAM] WARNING: Political Argument in Progress

; > I like the fact that government is limited, and so did the framers of the > Constitution. I can see no historical evidence of a political entity, that > when granted absolute power over the flow of information to society for an > unlimited period of time, used that power to increa

Re: [FRIAM] WARNING: Political Argument in Progress

Steve, re: argument vs discussion Point taken. I guess the distinction between the two is that in an argument, each protagonist knows in advance where he hopes to come out, whereas in a true discussion, nobody knows where they are going to come out. I like to be a realist, as you know, and I

[FRIAM] WARNING: Political Argument in Progress

Can you? If ever there is a situation of giving megaphones to people to yell "Fire" in the theater, it would be that. > > To each his own, I guess. > > Russ #3 > > > > Russell Gonnering, MD, MMM, FACS, CPHQ > rsgonneri...@mac.com > www.emergenthealth.n

Re: [FRIAM] GDP vs National Debt by Country |

Interesting, Owen. What do you make of this information? N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Mes

Re: [FRIAM] What you can do.

Russ, The thing I have never understood is why libertarians do not see corporations for what they are: HUGE governments. Is it really the case that you would rather get your news from Fox than from the BBC. It seems to me that the question about whether we are to be subject to government cont

Re: [FRIAM] What you can do.

Sarbajit, The better your posts get, the more ambivalent I become about them. I am grateful for (and a tad shamed by) the extensive work you have put into the campaign financing decision. But I think giving corporations unlimited power to pour money into politics is dangerously close to hand

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

Russ, and others I am continuing to do my penance for having uncritically circulated an opinion gleaned from NPR and/ or Left Wing Rant Radio. I have already conceded that my belief that border state gunshows are a significant source of modern Mexican drug lords armament is ... um shakey. H

Re: [FRIAM] For the hands-on amongst us

Tory, Carl, One of the great delights of this list is that I can, from time to time, find myself in the midst of a conversation concerning which I don't have a clue what we are talking about. I wouldnt have it any other way. n Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Etho

Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind

Coffee Group > Date: 5/9/2010 3:10:21 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind > > Nicholas Thompson wrote circa 05/07/2010 05:14 PM: > > I think one of the implications of the The Rant I recently posted is that > > metaphors can be made unfuzzy, precise, and

[FRIAM] Hiring illegal immigrants

there is a summary of federal law and enforcement procedures. at http://www.allbestarticles.com/business/hiring-illegal-aliens.html (see quote below). "Every new employee has to complete an I-9 Form documenting his/her authorization to work in the U.S., even if the employee was born here and i

[FRIAM] No Wild Ride, Please! WAS: Arizona meets the Facebook community

ot;show my papers", and that isn't to a cop, or even because I am being investigated for breaking a law. I don't feel imposed upon. When I lived in Austria, I had to carry my Ausweis all the time, and show it upon occasion when I went to a hotel, cashed a check and once, to &quo

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

l, cashed a check and once, to "the man", when I attempted to ride the streetcar without paying and was caught. > > Russ #3 > > Russell Gonnering, MD, MMM, FACS, CPHQ > rsgonneri...@mac.com > www.emergenthealth.net > > > On May 9, 2010, at 1:04 AM, Nicholas Thomps

Re: [FRIAM] Arizona meets the Facebook community

Hey, guys. Isnt there already a law in Arizona that requires employers to check the papers of anybody they hire and gives them a website to do it? I understand that that law is not enforced, because, obviously, it would interfere with employers exploitation of illegal aliens. If it were enfor

Re: [FRIAM] needed: Microscope

Irene, and others, For a much less worthy cause, I have been on the look out for one of these for years. So if somebody has a bunch, after Irene has hers, please let me know. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) h

Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind

Glen, 'n' all: I think one of the implications of the The Rant I recently posted is that metaphors can be made unfuzzy, precise, and exact if we are willing to take the time to separate out their implications into those that we already know to be false, those we already know to be true, and those

Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind

, coat hook or coat-hanger > allows. The question of Henri Bergson if > the brain determines the shape of the mind > is especially interesting: if we can answer how > it does it exactly, we have crossed the gap > between Psychology and Physiology (or > Neuroscience). > >

[FRIAM] Tomorrow's Friam meeting

Hi, everybody, Tomorrow I will be bringing as a guest, Dean Falk, a paleo-anthropologist from FSU interested in human brain evolution, now resident at the School for Advanced Research here in Santa Fe. Her publications are accessible at http://www.anthro.fsu.edu/people/faculty/falk.html I e

Re: [FRIAM] Kaufmannesque Decison Making

ng toward consensus as a best outcome. In true complexity fashion, we abandon the need for agreement. Since Steve is a part of our recent Madrona group, he is experiencing a version of OST. Merle Nicholas Thompson wrote: Everybody, (anybody?), I stumbled on this, yesterday. Note that it cites

Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind

Interesting, Glen. We seem to disagree quite thoroughly. To me, analogies are part of the implicature of scientific metaphors. EG, if the natural selection metaphor is correct, then pigeon varieties : pigeon species :: species of animals : all animals. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emerit

[FRIAM] Rant on metaphors: WAS: The coat hook of the mind

Sorry, Steve, and all, I probably deserved "Whereas "the wet edge of science" brings to mind ... ? A cooked noodle?" The metaphor comes from painting a wall. Too keep the paint smooth, you keep adding paint to the "wet edge". Otherwise, you get a contour in your painted wall. How 'bout,

Re: [FRIAM] The coat hook of the mind

Jochen, I take metaphors VERY seriously; I think they are the wet edge of science. But a metaphor is only as good as its heuristic power and i can't see what this one implies. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http

[FRIAM] Kaufmannesque Decison Making

Everybody, (anybody?), I stumbled on this, yesterday. Note that it cites Kaufmann for it's inspiration. http://www.openspaceworld.com/brief_history.htm It's a system, called for some reason "Open Space Technologies", for organizing meetings and moving toward consensus. My Calvinist curm

Re: [FRIAM] vol 83, issue 9

Glen Ropella Opined "I said that, not G. Duncan. ;-) We wouldn't want to insult George." Well I --> did <-- wonder. It didn't -->sound<-- like George. N Irrelevant PS: It -->does<-- annoy me that you computer folks have defiled and prohibited the natural and ordinary, efficient method of in

Re: [FRIAM] Behaviorism

w biological reinforcers work? -- Russ On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Russ, I don't think either Eric and I suppose that internal events are not part of a full explanation of behavior; we are just asserting that it is not the only part.History of t

Re: [FRIAM] boundary permeability (was Behaviorism)

iday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 5/4/2010 6:15:32 PM > Subject: [FRIAM] boundary permeability (was Behaviorism) > > > I'm changing the subject line again because this is _not_ in direct > lineage with the [Beat Poet] thread. > > Nicholas Thompson w

Re: [FRIAM] Biocentrism

Russ, Not sure why behaviorists should be the only ones to be invited to join this "improbable but ultimately inescapable journey." Here is the blurb for the book for others to comment on. Hang on to your foundations, everybody: Every now and then, a simple yet radical idea shakes the very

Re: [FRIAM] Behaviorism

Russ, I don't think either Eric and I suppose that internal events are not part of a full explanation of behavior; we are just asserting that it is not the only part.History of the behavior is another. A psychologist's job is to relate behavior to its history. The people whose job it i

Re: [FRIAM] Behaviorism

...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] > [Original Message] > From: glen e. p. ropella > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > Date: 5/4/2010 3:16:36 PM > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Behaviorism &

Re: [FRIAM] Behaviorism [was Beat poet]

Jochen, I am going to reply interlineally below and in html because Owen won't let me use caps. Hope that is ok. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp...@clarku.edu) http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://ww

Re: [FRIAM] Behaviorism

Glen, Not clear why a behaviorist should stand up for this. Cruelty is cruelty from the point of view of any theory. Behaviorists didn't invent reward and punishment -- nor it's abuses. But reading down, if these kids come to them in as bad shape as they appear to ... constant gruesome self

[FRIAM] Schroedinger redux

Dear Friammers, If anyone is curious about where I ended up on Schroedinger's glass of water, it's pasted in below. I don't necessarily recommend it. Thanks for your collective patience. Nick Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nthomp

Re: [FRIAM] Behaviorism [was Beat poet]

those processes we call the 'mind'. I don't see a way to say the same thing or anything remotely parallel, about soul, aura, the Great Unknown and such. Is there an argument to say that the brain, or the thinking processes don't exist in the same way we can argue that the

Re: [FRIAM] Behaviorism [was Beat poet]

remotely parallel, about soul, aura, the Great Unknown and such. Is there an argument to say that the brain, or the thinking processes don't exist in the same way we can argue that the others don't (or might not)? Thanks Robert On 5/2/10 12:52 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote

Re: [FRIAM] Beat poet defends the scientific method

The video is hilarious. I hope you all recognise that Mishkin (the Ranter) is just a behaviorist. I have never understood how any scientist could be anything BUT a behaviorist. How is banging on about mind any different from banging on about soul, or aura, or the Great Unknown? Nick N

Re: [FRIAM] Palenque, Chichen Itza and Katyn

Eric, Vladimir's point is too unique to be assimilated to "The Germans weren't any more rotten: they were just more efficient than the rest of us." His claim is that brutality will tell us something about the stage of development of any culture. Now this raises all sorts of interesting thing

[FRIAM] PLEASE DON'T READ Nick's post: "Schroedinger's "What is Life?""

/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org [City University of Santa Fe] - Original Message - From: Nicholas Thompson To: friam@redfish.com Sent: 4/26/2010 9:50:50 PM Subject: Schroedinger's "What is Life?" All, I am working my way through this book, and, rather than write one h

[FRIAM] Schroedinger's "What is Life?"

All, I am working my way through this book, and, rather than write one huge email that nobody reads, I thought I would write some short ones that somebody might read. It's a splendid little book, very cleanly and economically written. S. is not beset with jargonophilia. The basic idea of th

Re: [FRIAM] Why are there theorems?

: Nicholas Thompson wrote circa 04/25/2010 01:50 PM: Aaa! I can't believe I might agree with Doug on something. ;-) FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures

Re: [FRIAM] Why are there theorems?

Dear Lee, YOU ASKED: Did you read the article by Lorenz? YOU COMPLAINED: (I wish *someone* would; But did you actually SEND the link to the Lorenz article? It wasnt attached to the message I got. N Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology, Clark University (nt

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