Re: [FRIAM] Can current AI beat humans at doing science?

What do you mean? It will be the great equalizer. From: Friam On Behalf Of Pieter Steenekamp Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:12 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Can current AI beat humans at doing science? A year or so ago, Deepmind's AlphGo defeated t

Re: [FRIAM] ???

As with sex and dating, isn’t the obvious solution in these COVID times the online shrink? From: Friam On Behalf Of thompnicks...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 10:18 AM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] ??? Gosh, Steve. I could use a boomer-

Re: [FRIAM] shopping for a new psychiatrist

I wonder how a natural language processing code would diagram that. On Jul 30, 2021, at 3:01 PM, Jon Zingale wrote:  Gil, Fuck. "fucking bag of dicks" is one of my favorite phrases. Thanks for it. Cheers, Jon - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexi

Re: [FRIAM] On Blankfaces

How is a blankface different from authoritarian? -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 8:45 AM To: FriAM Subject: [FRIAM] On Blankfaces Given some of the conversations I've had with some of y'all about bureaucracy as technology, I thought

Re: [FRIAM] On Blankfaces

quite happy that I don't have to spend very much time defending my property from thieves and murderers. That frees me up to spend my time arguing on the internet. On 8/5/21 9:08 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > How is a blankface different from authoritarian? > > -Original Mess

Re: [FRIAM] On Blankfaces

gt; limiting one's freedom in dimensions X..Y, you have more energy to exercise > your freedom in dimensions P..Q. > > For example, I'm quite happy that I don't have to spend very much time > defending my property from thieves and murderers. That frees me up

Re: [FRIAM] On Blankfaces

g there's nothing behind their blank face. In fact, it's way easier to hack their system if you remember there's an entire inner universe behind that blank face. On 8/5/21 9:36 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > The problem with the blankfaces is that they make it very hard to revise bad

Re: [FRIAM] On Blankfaces

Remember when there was an "out there" that was tantalizing and seemed just out of reach? I once fell asleep on a long-distance call to Houston using a 1200 baud modem just to get some new program from a BBS. I was probably watching Night Line before nodding off. -Original Message- F

Re: [FRIAM] On Blankfaces

abits and entrained patterns, to be silky smooth and pain free. On 8/5/21 9:48 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Yes, I think the proposal was to follow that metaphor to its conclusion with > regard to the Eloi's true value. > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Beh

Re: [FRIAM] On Blankfaces

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/09/blame-the-bobos-creative-class/619492/ -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Thursday, August 5, 2021 10:08 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] On Blankfaces Well

Re: [FRIAM] On Blankfaces

rtual relationship over Minitel, with a very nice girl. I learned later through meatspace channels that she was not so nice, and perhaps not even a girl. It broke my tiny little Texas reared brain. On 8/5/21 9:56 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Remember when there was an "out there" that w

Re: [FRIAM] for our psychonauts

Don't forget about Mars! -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of thompnicks...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 8:24 AM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] for our psychonauts Reminds me of that period in which people were desperately

Re: [FRIAM] for our psychonauts

And something will have to power the artificial magnetosphere after the teraforming.. On Aug 6, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Steve Smith wrote:  Marcus Daniels wrote: Don't forget about Mars! LANL physicist Steve Howe was a proponent of plowsharing Rover<https://www.lanl.gov/science/NSS/iss

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

e who has clearly researched the hell out of the stuff coming at us like a swarm of bugs hitting our windshield (while we proudly outdrive our headlights). On Aug 6, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Steve Smith <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com> wrote:  Marcus Daniels wrote: Don't forget about Mars!

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

No need for victims when there are (pandemic) volunteers. On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Steve Smith wrote:  Marcus - The pushback on everything from low wattage lighting to mask mandates leaves me thinking that there is really only one thing that motivates certain people: That they can do wha

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

8 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Aug 7, 2021, 1:28 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: No need for victims when there are (pandemic) volunteers. On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Steve Smith mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote:  Marcus - The pushback on everything from low wa

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Aug 7, 2021, 1:28 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: No need for victims when there are (pandemic) volunteers. On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Steve Smith mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wr

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

A vaccine installs information in the immune system about antigen. Exercise (or fasting) distills into various kinds of cell and signaling changes. (Like in the current example with insulin resistance.)Systematic control of the body (and brain) through chemicals or biologics isn't possib

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

s.org/learn/by-eating-disorder/other/orthorexia>. Brings to mind the quote attributed to Wilde: "Everything in moderation, including moderation." On 8/9/21 8:30 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > A vaccine installs information in the immune system about antigen. Exercise > (or fasting)

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

exponential technological growth. https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/delta-variant-most-prevalent/2021/08/08/d1017f0e-f558-11eb-9068-bf463c8c74de_story.html T On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 1:52 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Nice. But I think my favorite on that li

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

that are publically traded? For that matter, any company in the south that must be indoors? From: Friam On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Monday, August 9, 2021 12:53 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth. Well, it's not just the South. On 8/9/21 1:12 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > A few thoughts: > >   > > 1. Medicare and Medicaid could be used a levers to force vac

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Monday Note #629 - Elon Musk at full throttle (FF)

Also https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/08/with-a-single-photo-spacex-sent-a-not-so-subtle-message-to-faa-regulators/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Tom Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 8, 2021 1:52 PM Subject: [FRIAM] Fwd: Monday Note #629 - Elon Musk at full throttle (FF) Interesting read

Re: [FRIAM] Moral collapse and state failure

The great thing about ethics is that we have so many systems to choose from. I'll take my anarchist thinking except when I'm a stoic or a nihilist and Glen can advocate postmodernism, except when important topics like beer arise. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$

Re: [FRIAM] FW: [EXT] Glen Ropella published a chapter

But if you buy it from *Amazon*, you can get it by the end of the week! -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 9:37 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] FW: [EXT] Glen Ropella published a chapter Heh, thanks. A $225 book nobody wil

Re: [FRIAM] FW: [EXT] Glen Ropella published a chapter

t for the delivery drone. "Alexa, buy me that book you saw while reading my email." On 8/10/21 10:33 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > But if you buy it from *Amazon*, you can get it by the end of the week! > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ &g

Re: [FRIAM] Moral collapse and state failure

I think the kind of morality I would find useful would look something like Wikipedia contributors. Working away in obscurity for the greater good... -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 10:46 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] M

Re: [FRIAM] Moral collapse and state failure

What if they are integrated high-functioning sociopaths? By a common-sense evaluation, Trump is high-functioning. He became president, after all. People that seek power tend to be the sort of people that probably shouldn’t have it, in my experience. From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly

Re: [FRIAM] Moral collapse and state failure

it. And it's more difficult to simulate the moral code of someone who seems to NOT seek power. On 8/10/21 10:54 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > What if they are integrated high-functioning sociopaths?   By a common-sense > evaluation, Trump is high-functioning.  He became president, after

Re: [FRIAM] Moral collapse and state failure

al Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 11:26 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Moral collapse and state failure Sure. I'm just trying to get the "pathological" aspect of personality defi

Re: [FRIAM] Moral collapse and state failure

some of us want larger/faster nudges than others of us. So, there'd still be a valid type of *frustrated* or somesuch ... maybe not morality but "stance" or "operating principle". On 8/10/21 12:15 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Glen writes: > > < So, "seem

Re: [FRIAM] Moral collapse and state failure

Glen writes: < Some lefties are like me, squawking because they're out of tune and will get to practical action sooner or later. But, yeah, some are just yelling Get Off My Lawn! > I recall arguing with someone about the tradeoff between health care for oneself or for one's child. That someh

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Aug 7, 2021, 1:28 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: No need for victims when there are (pandemic) volunteers. On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:43 AM, Steve Smith mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>&

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

It is weird there are orders of magnitude of variability. I wonder if it is differences in spatial distribution of the different vaccines? Ethnicity? Prevalence? -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2021 8:06 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subj

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

and exponential technological growth. It would be interesting to plot some geographical data about comorbidities, particularly obesity. On 8/11/21 9:09 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > It is weird there are orders of magnitude of variability. I wonder if it is > differences in spatial distri

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

there's a lot of people in LA who *would* be hospitalized if they lived in TX? On 8/11/21 11:22 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Consider deaths in Louisiana (20) vs. Texas (90). Both states with lots of > obesity and similar weather. > > -Original Message- > From: Fria

[FRIAM] ivermectin, nope

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-11/ivermectin-no-effect-covid - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIA

Re: [FRIAM] ivermectin, nope

d-started-vaccinating-deaths-shot-up/ https://nonvenipacem.com/2021/07/31/india-crushed-covid-using-ivermectin-and-you-can-too/ https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/elites-worried-covid-cases-india-plummet-government-promotes-ivermectin-hydroxychloroquine-use/ Pieter On Sat, 14 Aug 2021 at 17:

Re: [FRIAM] placebo effect

This sounds right to me.. after having several shelter dogs. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/wild-animals-ptsd/619736/ On Aug 14, 2021, at 8:34 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:  https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-08-11/ivermectin-no-effect-covid

Re: [FRIAM] pan→endemic

What I worry about is the contribution of IgM for tracking the evolving virus. How do people that need therapeutic immune suppression (e.g. Rituxan) decide how to time wiping out their B cells? Great the IgG is doing its thing, but what is happening in these breakthrough cases? -Original

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

Just don't invite her back until the pandemic has become endemic. A distinction without a difference but then she can win the argument. :-) -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 12:54 PM To: FriAM Subject: [FRIAM] vax v unvax S ..

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

Another hypothesis is that they tend to be less engaged in the economy and their communities and so are thus less susceptible; smaller social networks and lower spatial density. And further they attach themselves to these crazy ideas because no one ever has the opportunity to push back except p

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

Show respect by showing her the door. If someone wants clean contracts that don't stress their emotional modulation, give it to them. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 7:04 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax I a

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

Whatever happened to getting paid a lot of money to anticipate the wishes of your employer? -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 8:22 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax Maybe. But we pay her $150 for 3 hours of work.

Re: [FRIAM] Medical treatments for some or for all

Eric writes: “I have wondered whether trump in the presidency was like an adjuvant in a vaccine. Just having the antigen leaves room for highly variable responses, because if you don’t manage the inflammatory response that initiates the immune response, you have only a weak control system. Tr

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

Get off my lawn! On 8/19/21 8:31 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Whatever happened to getting paid a lot of money to anticipate the wishes of your employer? -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 8:22 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM]

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

Robotics seem inevitable for keeping the pressure on for this sort of situation. https://youtu.be/j0z4FweCy4M On Aug 20, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:  Why have the Taliban been able to conquer Afghanistan so quickly, although they were hopelessly outgunned for almost 20 years as the

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

message From: Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> Date: 8/20/21 14:42 (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order Robotics seem inevitable for keeping the pressure on for

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

this scenario - both "good" and "bad" guys. But it is worthless, because the Taliban are now 'heads of state' and we are not allowed to "hunt them down." davew On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Nimble, weaponized drones in the air and

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

explaining all this. On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 6:42 AM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Robotics seem inevitable for keeping the pressure on for this sort of situation. https://youtu.be/j0z4FweCy4M On Aug 20, 2021, at 5:10 AM, Jochen Fromm mailto:j...@cas-group.net>&g

Re: [FRIAM] Steaming services

Imogen Heap started a project called the Mycelia music network a few years ago. Since then there are some other blockchain-tech companies like Audius.co that aim to connect the consumer and artists directly. I guess my expectation is that a lot of what makes an artist successful is marketin

Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

Check out Tesla AI day.. Speaking to that concern, they collect tons of data and use very high fidelity simulators. https://youtu.be/j0z4FweCy4M On Aug 23, 2021, at 5:24 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote:  Then Cory Doctorow ponders the other eternal question: is this all bullshit? https://doctorow

Re: [FRIAM] Kill it!

And wouldn’t you know it is from C H I N A! > On Aug 24, 2021, at 7:54 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > > Those big wasps you got out there in the NW, they're kind of pretty to. > Shall I root for those? > > Nick Thompson > thompnicks...@gmail.com > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/

Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

Now this brings to mind “All we have to fear is fear itself.” -- a forecasted, often exaggerated sense of danger. The stories of people who are gasping for breath in an ICU but are afraid of the public health security state and losing their liberty. From: Friam On Behalf Of thompnicks...@gma

Re: [FRIAM] Computer Monitors now?

I got a Dell S3220DGF that was on sale a while back and I think was a good value. A better value than my Samsung Odyssey 9 which is still the best! From: Friam On Behalf Of Carl Tollander Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 6:45 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

< The more they dig in, the more it pushes me to dig in. The more emphatically you are pro-vaccine, the more emphatically I become anti-vaccine. Reason and reasonableness leaves the building. > These same people are willing to submit to an employer's drug tests. -Original Message- From:

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

tendencies of the anti-vaxers would abate. On 8/25/21 9:09 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > These same people are willing to submit to an employer's drug tests. -- ☤>$ uǝlƃ - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-1

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

le too much "just in time" logistical planning with our hospitals and this fairly tiny bump is demonstrating that our buffer wasn't high enough. The smart thing to do is increase capacity, correct the buffer size, and take care of both covid patients and regular people. On 8/25

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours it seems the ratio of covid patients is actually lower than I thought. The actual problem is insufficient buffer capacity, not the surge in covid patients. The covid patients are simply demonstrating the problem. On 8/25/21 9:58 AM, Marcus Daniels wr

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

safe the vaccine was. Then I decided I couldn't get in line fast enough. It sounds like that's the opposite what some people are doing. It sounds like the hear: this was made using new medical technology, that hasn't neneded to be tested outside of labs until now. So th

Re: [FRIAM] Kill it!

I have seen what happens when ferals proliferate. Out in the country it is common to have a few non-domesticated cats around, but they can proliferate amongst households. Look out the window, there is some hunt that is on. Culling is easy though. > On Aug 26, 2021, at 7:08 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wr

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

. Other paths to hospital inpatient > or PT/allergy/optha clinics *should* require proof of vax or PCR test > results. I agree. Shun the anti-vax. Stupidity must be painful. > > But re: ER, I disagree. It's impractical to the point of silliness. > > On 8/25/21 10:56 AM, Marcus

Re: [FRIAM] Kill it!

easy, and they are delicious! Kung Pao Meow! On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 10:23 AM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: I have seen what happens when ferals proliferate. Out in the country it is common to have a few non-domesticated cats around, but they can proliferate a

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

They need to explain themselves, and it is entirely appropriate to make their lives risky and inconvenient until they do. From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 12:07 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side Glen is very sensitive to pot

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

: Thursday, August 26, 2021 12:22 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side Explain themselves to _? To you? For the purpose of ___? Securing your approval? On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: They need to explain themselves, and it is

Re: [FRIAM] interesting - if true

< If these were true, it would be interesting to the extent it belies the caricatures of the Republican party as the bastion of the plutocrats and the Democratic party as the champion of the working class.> Did anyone watch Pennyworth? The father is a possible picture of today's anti-liberal-

Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"

You are made of matter following some trajectory that was initiated with the big bang, and you will go where you will go. There is no "deserve". From: Friam On Behalf Of thompnicks...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2021 1:04 PM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Sub

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

as the motivation if we are to break out of the death spiral. Eric On Aug 27, 2021, at 4:22 AM, Prof David West mailto:profw...@fastmail.fm>> wrote: Explain themselves to _? To you? For the purpose of ___? Securing your approval? On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, at 1:13 PM,

[FRIAM] our friends the police

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Re: [FRIAM] Epic

That is a big boy. COVID might well get him. > On Aug 27, 2021, at 6:11 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > >  > Covid Rant goes METAL! [San Diego Board of Supervisors meeting Remix] > https://youtu.be/052iTp04DRY > > We've broached the ethics of enjoying the fruits of problematic people > before. My favo

Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"

I wonder how it is for professional people that live in India in terms of salary vs. cost of living.I know the salary is a lot lower than in the U.S., but expenses may be much lower too? My limited observation has been that there is competition for positions, and it can be nasty. It would

Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"

Psychologically, I think shared hardship is very different than individual hardship. My grandfather’s road construction and trucking work in Oregon is honored work in the family. His generation built what the country is today. If one does that kind of work today, it holds no real esteem.

Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"

Colonization is a proven model. For 2 trillion dollars, shouldn’t we have some concrete benefit in mind? Sure there’s some taxes via defense contractors. I don’t know what one would do with that place. Casinos? > On Aug 27, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Sarbajit Roy wrote: > > So if I look at it disp

Re: [FRIAM] Help for Afghanistan's scientists

This could be a good thing, in the fullness of time: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/two-blows-america-dealing-taliban/619903/ On Aug 27, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:  Afghanistan’s scientists see gains slip away

Re: [FRIAM] Eternal questions

Did y'all not see Monkey Pong? Soon enough there will be measurements on all this and explainable ML algorithms will pick the data apart. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of ? glen Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2021 6:37 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Sub

Re: [FRIAM] interesting - if true

One would think that being progressive leads to progress, no? From: Friam On Behalf Of Merle Lefkoff Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2021 11:45 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] interesting - if true Didn't we know that already? On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 1:5

Re: [FRIAM] "Older" coders sought

Ha. I think younger me would better tolerate doing dumb things on purpose. Soldiers that don’t ask: What are we fighting for? On Aug 30, 2021, at 7:16 AM, Tom Johnson wrote:  https://www.techrepublic.com/article/old-developers-are-in-demand-at-this-tech-company-youll-never-believe-the-job-

Re: [FRIAM] Weighted Ensemble

This week's Science has an article on predicting RNA structure using deep learning.The other approach you mention sounds like Rosetta. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Monday, August 30, 2021 11:27 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Weighted Ensem

Re: [FRIAM] Weighted Ensemble

p mailing list or just in my head. -- rec -- On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 2:33 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: This week's Science has an article on predicting RNA structure using deep learning.The other approach you mention sounds like Rosetta. -Original Mes

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

10:06 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas Marcus, It does take the "bleeding hearts" some time to get to "othering". That said, it's been a while since this started, and the vast ma

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

Or *both* On Aug 31, 2021, at 7:18 AM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote:  So saith Paul Krugman: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/30/opinion/covid-misinformation-supplements.html Once you’re sensitized to the link between snake oil and right-wing politics, you realize that it’s pervasive. This i

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

On one hand there is woo-woo, but others have semi-reasonable concerns that drug candidates don't make it through the medical establishment. I am skeptical about that because pharma stands to make money from any compounds that work, and they have huge investments in high throughput screening.

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

It would be fun to find out how many casual yoga goers describe themselves as left or right. (I imagine actual yogis would avoid the question. 8^D) In the end, nonlinearity is hard for everyone. Where pharma has a crisp target, it will find a treatment. But where the target's not so crisp, i

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

Dave writes: "And I am terrified of liberals (progressives, democrats) because, at the moment, they have the power of government enforcement of their diktats." Is that a liberal property, or just a property of anyone that has power? What is a specific thing that liberals have done that is terr

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

< Western medicine often has a hard time discovering the "chemistry behind such cures" because they are looking for a specific problem and a (usually) single chemical "cure." Most folk medicine and long established areas like Aryuvedic medicine focus on multi-factor "cures" addressing multi-fac

Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning

I was made to take piano lessons for five years. I did minimal practice, but still hated it and the idea of it. I can’t do it all now, and don’t wish I could. Don’t tell me what is important. I will prioritize what I want. That said, a vaccine is passive and takes no attention. > On Sep 1,

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

ng to take it and keep it for themselves." -anonymous On 8/31/21 4:53 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: Dave writes: “And I am terrified of liberals (progressives, democrats) because, at the moment, they have the power of government enforcement of their diktats.” Is that a liberal property,

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Culture is online now, didn’t you hear? From: Friam On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:12 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning Glen quoted BC Smith: "What does all this mean in the case of AIs and computer systems generally? Perhaps at

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I’m already convinced Dave is bot. I know I am. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2021/08/dead-internet-theory-wrong-but-feels-true/619937/ From: Friam On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:23 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group

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you that I was Turing? Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men! n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com<mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Wednesday, Septemb

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Dave wrote: < More significant: I have had my curricular materials censured and have had my job threatened on a number of occasions because it was deemed inconsistent with liberal values. Ironically, many of these events occurred when I was teaching at a Catholic university where I could, with

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that monitored >>>> social media posts, detected those deemed inimical to government interests >>>> (e.g setting up a flash mob to protest the visit of a political >>>> personage), and generate counter postings (e.g., moving the mob to a pig >>>> farm instea

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less than the feds. My property taxes were $40 per year. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 1:50 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Dave wrote: < More significant: I have had my curricular

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Dave writes: < Honors degrees, curricula, and courses are racist reasons that students from northern New Mexico cannot succeed at other universities and, as such, cannot be tolerated at Highlands. > Universities find and mature talent. They don’t make it. Students attach their talent to the

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erness designations thereby denying access to elderly, handicapped, and otherwise marginally abled. You asked for examples of liberal actions/policies that caused harm, to me specifically, but by implication in general. These are tangible examples. The fact that you agree with the policies and actions

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And when I looked back the guy was gone. > > Have I become just like the scared little old lady that lives next door? > Afraid of progress? Afraid of diversity? Scared of my own shadow? I honestly > don't know. > > >> On 9/2/21 7:22 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>

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argins are sources of conflict and distrust, not coherent argumentation. I guess it's all so "theoretical" that makes me skeptical. On 9/2/21 8:04 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > A potential benefit of the episodic personality type is the ability to grieve > failures and move on. > &g

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e I become just like the scared little old lady that lives next door? Afraid of progress? Afraid of diversity? Scared of my own shadow? I honestly don't know. On 9/2/21 7:22 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > The signal to the welfare rancher is “Find a new line of work and quit your &

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Once one believes the other side only lies, then the guiding principle becomes By Any Means Necessary.. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 2, 2021, at 12:13 PM, Jon Zingale wrote:  "Any man can be Babylon, in times like these." - Burning Spear - . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . F

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to:thompnicks...@gmail.com> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:28 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM

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