Re: [FRIAM] Islam-Science-Muslims-and-Technology-Seyyed-Hossein-Nasr-in-Conversation-with-Muzaffar-Iqbal-2009.pdf

to:thompnicks...@gmail.com> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 6:27 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM

Re: [FRIAM] COVID SaO2 at 7k feet

Anemia shows up as a risk factor for death from COVID-19. Just to cheer you up. 😊 -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 11:29 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] COVID SaO2 at 7k feet Of course, "blinking an eye" should be sup

Re: [FRIAM] COVID SaO2 at 7k feet

Incidentally, variations in pulse rate is an indicator used to diagnose premature babies at risk of sepsis. (Actually taking their blood is potentially a potential cause for sepsis.) https://www.nature.com/articles/pr2003429 -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ Sen

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

How special can we really be, one of 7.6 billion people? The sense of entitlement is the problem, not the humiliation that comes from its denial. From: Friam On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 12:13 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

rather than solving it. While I agree these have the *flavor* of Sagan's pale blue dot or Zaphod Beeblebrox succumbing to the total perspective, neither really solve the problem. On 9/28/21 12:25 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > How special can we really be, one of 7.6 billion people?   The se

Re: [FRIAM] unplanned [sen|obsol]escence

WhiteLash crowd is experiencing the same thing but have a more ready target for their fear/blame.   The radLeft has it's own version of this, but my biases (by definition) are less judgemental about their (potentially) misdirected fear/anger.   I have better stories to justify theirs. On 9/2

Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

I’ve got a big bin of old hard drives that I dig through and find this or that from time to time. I mostly don’t need any of it. I imagine it will be that way too for transhuman upgrades. Once there are better codes and better hardware, the old ways just seem so unnecessary. I know som

Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

Companies like Mythic and IBM have developed analog devices for energy- efficient deep learning. Noise and low precision are often used as part of ML training protocols anyway.Here they did careful side-by-side testing to quantify the impact of going analog. https://www.frontiersin.org/ar

Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

m@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video Maybe I'm just incompetent today. But what PCM devices did they use? Internal IBM research devices? Or did they only use the simulator (https://github.com/IBM/aihwkit)? Are there commercial PCM chips yet? On 10/1/21 7:34 AM, Ma

Re: [FRIAM] A pretty cellular automata video

I wonder if a CA like this would look cooler on one of these? https://shop.boox.com/products/mira ..maybe as a sort of framed art? On Oct 1, 2021, at 2:49 PM, Jon Zingale wrote:  A few years ago, I became interested in building myself an AC frog. At the time I started looking into IBM's Tru

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

In some languages one can also track dependencies and enforce constraints on values. Suppose one generates an iterator object from a list to traverse a list. Obviously, that iterator depends on what is in the list. Applying it to another list is misuse. (For concreteness, suppose the itera

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

linguistic examples I could come up with. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com<mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Sunday, October 3, 2021 11:58 AM To: The

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

otect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwordpress.clarku.edu%2fnthompson%2f&c=E,1,fqOOxDmDLdhKPCyM975-sRZbiMj-4yQJaxaRrFORE7EY_6A2PgtnuwLUcGSd_Vt2Jc2exS_7X3o4JNvQW4Juc9_-tWdHoyq1Go8lWYoj&typo=1> From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Su

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

ul and reasonable guy, and his writing kind of pounds it into the ground, which is what journal papers are supposed to do. Eric On Oct 3, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: On the virus alive or non-alive question, I think it would probably b

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

when the expressors > finally "make it" (such that nobody can deny their impact --- think Tom > Waits, not Elon Musk), we all gather round and use them as an excuse to > party. But we never go back and knead the tortuous pipeline of consistency > they *survived* to get

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

e focus down to things like coherent light, and too little time defocusing out to the universe as a whole. On 10/4/21 8:50 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I don’t see it that way. Consistency is work for computers and creativity is > work for humans. Want the best of both.. > >> On

Re: [FRIAM] do you answer those phone calls?

Once I talked to such a person for a while and asked them about their day and how things were going for them. It seems to me there is no one to sensibly abuse so I just hang up immediately. The people that do the work need it even if they have robots helping them. About the only use I have

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

< A more productive route is to focus not on contradiction but on completeness. And I'm using "focus on" ... I'm not saying *ignore* consistency. Simply spend more time trying to cover the ground that needs covering. > In some depth first search one might find a sub-problem that was uncrackable.

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

rtment at some elitist institution. A focus on consistency is nothing more than subculture gatekeeping <https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gatekeeping>. On 10/4/21 10:01 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > In some depth first search one might find a sub-problem that was uncrackable. &g

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: What a funny

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-fungible_token From: Friam On Behalf Of Roger Critchlow Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 9:29 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: What a funny need a browser add-on that just does the image search and annotates imag

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

ain "less inconsistently" ... aka with fewer exceptions to the rule. Yes, I know I've completely abused the word and its normal meaning. On 10/4/21 12:03 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I agree with some of that. I mentioned the dependently typed programming > language as one

[FRIAM] Aborted project by Errol Morris for the year 2000

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Re: [FRIAM] Aborted project by Errol Morris for the year 2000

I wonder how far he sees the exponential progress of computing compared to his progress from the future. It almost seems cautionary. He still talks optimistically like that, at least in public. From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2021 9:55 AM To: friam@redfish.co

Re: [FRIAM] Aborted project by Errol Morris for the year 2000

I saw Chuang in a recent panel discussion about QC, and he pitched the idea of computers that could grow from seeds. People on the panel acted like he was nutty. He seems to have many wild ideas on many topics. Maybe for someone like that everything is easy, and they don’t feel trapped in th

Re: [FRIAM] Aborted project by Errol Morris for the year 2000

Jon writes: < What do you suppose people imagine when they imagine computers the size of atoms? Little boxy Rosey the robots? > I once was on a project concerned with reducing cellulose to glucose, and part of it was imaging with STMs and similar devices. The enzymes that break the hydrogen

Re: [FRIAM] Copernican thresholds; was: Newborn Heart Rate

that it exists." >>>>> >>>>> But the more important part of the argument surrounds whether >>>>> consistency, itself, is a matter of degree or kind. The analog world is >>>>> full of graded [in]consistency. You see it a l

Re: [FRIAM] Meanwhile ...

Texas needs all the smart people it can get! > On Oct 8, 2021, at 7:58 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > > Tesla headquarters will move from California to Texas, Elon Musk says > https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/07/tesla-moving-texas-elon-musk-california > > Meanwhile, > > https://projects

Re: [FRIAM] Unexpected success

Is this how Germans make fun of Americans? On Oct 10, 2021, at 12:14 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:  Have you heard the story of Walker Hayes? He is a country singer from Franklin, Tennessee, who struggled to make a living in order to feed his 6 six kids. During the pandemic he wrote a song "Fancy L

Re: [FRIAM] Unexpected success

bee's either. I don't know what it is like. J. Original message ---- From: Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> Date: 10/11/21 06:15 (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group mailto:friam@redfish.com>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Unex

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

Doesn't work for me. My parents are in a very liberal church and (I think) like it because it gives some structure and support in their community. My dad's (I think formative) education at a strong liberal arts college probably contributed to my tendency to deconstruct things. I'm not part

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

The minimum energy required to do something is the way that can be expected from nature. Google and Slack make that all the more obvious. I suspect the canals have always been there, but it was less obvious how they were constraining us. I tend to think any question has been considered in m

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

r how > submissive I am and how much I would like to be cooperative, I so far have > not found it in myself to want to go back into that. > > It surprises me that these studies don’t seem to address questions of > domination and constriction, and the degree to which being able to breat

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Canal hopping is distinct from turning up the heat? Some bruising can be expected when one bounces off the side of a canal 20 feet up in the air, and lands on a bike stand. Is there really any more to hustle? By dumb luck one can find some other interesting place this way. A problem with

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

I was thinking D.E. Shaw, Musk, Gates Foundation, that sort of thing. I don’t see academics as particularly privileged. In some ways it seems rather miserable. I can see why the billionaires invest in age research. The first life has to be spent getting the pile of money to spend in the se

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Computing distributional overlap out in the tails of high dimensional distributions… Seems like it couldn’t possibly be sampled well enough to be informative. From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:52 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

I mean from the perspective of aesthetics. Understanding why Pandora is messing it up means sampling the deep wells. From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:16 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock? "Computing distributional overlap out in

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

I was playing with RDKIT the other day, and it wasn’t obvious how to get a scalar quantity of plausibility of a molecule. It seems a SMILES string is right or wrong, and then maybe there are some warnings that can be trapped. However, the benefits for search or fair sampling are different th

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

In the Usenet days I had the sense that it was possible to argue down people. It might take a lot of work, but it was possible. The opposition might take you out of context or play rhetorical tricks, but there wasn’t fundamentally bad faith. There was some sense that there were winners and l

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

< An employee of mine once claimed "you don't understand my process". > I am really amazed how many interviews presume to try to understand how their candidates think. If it can be understood, it can be programmed. If it can be programmed, you don't need the candidate. If your poor employe

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

s, you can try generating a 2d depiction and a 3d structure. Those will throw exceptions if things get too weird. -- rec -- On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 3:22 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: I was playing with RDKIT the other day, and it wasn’t obvious how to get a scala

Re: [FRIAM] Schwill Rock?

7;s the way the chemists do it in the wetlab. OpenEyes (https://www.eyesopen.com/) is running some online events this month that might be interesting. -- rec -- On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 5:44 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: A search algorithm that, say, proposes a pr

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

Even with a scout mentality there is the problem of modeling the deck of alternative scenarios that arise from uncertainty in a map.The tendency to take imputed values for a set of unknown variables is a practical cognitive resource limitation that one can acknowledge or fail to acknowledge.

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

XIn-rvY But I worry about my own ability to switch from scout to soldier ... which is why the right-wing morons I talk to at the pub don't immediately murder me. Once they get to know me, they don't love me anymore. On 10/14/21 3:29 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Even with a scout

Re: [FRIAM] Cartoon

I will navigate paywalls. Facebook, that is a bridge too far! On Oct 15, 2021, at 7:14 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote:  https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10209886140188090&id=1771160841 --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM .-- .- -. -

[FRIAM] that hobgoblin of internal consistency

For those of that just can’t stop their persnickety ways, Alexandra Petri brings us some help. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/16/finally-understand-kyrsten-sinema-360-easy-steps/ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexit

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

gt; How I learned to love pseudoscience >> https://youtu.be/bWV0XIn-rvY >> >> But I worry about my own ability to switch from scout to soldier ... which >> is why the right-wing morons I talk to at the pub don't immediately murder >> me. Once they get to kn

Re: [FRIAM] Heart Rate

One way to prepare for decline is to accumulate wealth to share with children and grandchildren. Another way is to bank stem cells and to stay fit. But when death comes, I wonder how far we off from being able to harvest memories from the morphology of dendritic spines? [1] One might imagin

Re: [FRIAM] Heart Rate

Jon writes: “They needed someone to write interfaces for their scientific software. The interview was with two postdocs that spent the entire interview making fun of me, beginning with questions about Dunning-Kruger. After an hour, I got off the call and spent the weekend working through depres

Re: [FRIAM] Heart Rate

So mother nature offered a solution to kill off older people, and older people declined to be killed off as reflected in their higher vaccination rates. Anti-vaxxers did not decline to be killed off. In San Francisco, a least, there are plenty of ICU beds for other people. May nature take i

Re: [FRIAM] A Quantum of Ethnicity

Who cares. The only reason I can think to care is that genetic variants of relevance to health depend on context. -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 9:21 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: [FRIAM] A Quantum of Ethnicity Barry wrote: >

Re: [FRIAM] A Quantum of Ethnicity

The fine-grained info is in the genome and epigenome. See page 11, for example. Compute the first few principal components.. https://biobank.ctsu.ox.ac.uk/crystal/crystal/docs/genotyping_qc.pdf -Original Message- From: Friam On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 9:55 A

Re: [FRIAM] A Quantum of Ethnicity

< Nobody can select their own genes, but we we can influence what kind of persons we want to become. > https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/health/sickle-cell-cure.html From: Friam On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2021 11:03 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee

Re: [FRIAM] Heart Rate

< And that was the fulcrum of my redirect from Kim and Bruce's defenses of the mandates, that the actual problem is neoliberal capitalism where its OK to coerce people through wage slavery. > I'm reminded of Roger Water's complaint: "Each man has his price, Bob, and yours was pretty low." Ma

Re: [FRIAM] Heart Rate

Wouldn't a postmodernist say that the nouns and verbs in the argument have different weights and that to the extent there are canonical assignments for these weights, it reflects arbitrary norms and the accumulation of power? In this view it seems to me a contribution to point out cases where

Re: [FRIAM] *-sovereignty

So dismissive of the analog information.. > On Oct 18, 2021, at 10:21 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > >  > The Diverse Meanings of Digital Sovereignty > https://globalmedia.mit.edu/2020/08/05/the-diverse-meanings-of-digital-sovereignty/ > > " > 1) Cyberspace sovereignty > 2) State Digital Sovereignty >

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

< In Cellular Automata there is no clear distinction between agent and environment. They are just a grid of states which evolves step by step by updating the cells with a transition rule or function.> And yet agency emerged. Marcus .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

Game of Life has been shown to be universal https://uwe-repository.worktribe.com/output/822575/turing-machine-universality-of-the-game-of-life I would expect there are many “intermediate lambda” CAs that behave this way, and so could implement any simulation manifesting stigmergy. From: Friam

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

19, 2021, at 1:05 PM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > > To be clear though, this requires a flexible understanding of "agent" or > whatever's doing the indirect coordinating "through" the environment. I.e. > "stygmergy" isn't very well defined. > >&

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

e before and after? This is a possible interpretation of Nick's comment that everything is stygmergy. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Oct 19, 2021, 8:29 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: What I was dri

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

r 19, 2021 8:56:28 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels wrote: I don’t actually get what is interesting about the term. In computer science it would be a “blackboard system” or simply “memory”. From: Friam On Behalf Of Nicholas Thompson Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2021 8:34 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complex

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

d mistaking modern bananas for "natural" food. >> >> The "indirectness" in the definition obscures some nuance that needs some >> attention. >> >>> On October 19, 2021 8:56:28 PM PDT, Marcus Daniels >>> wrote: >>> I don’t

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

It is hard to find the motivation to invest much in category theory when the practical considerations are left as an exercise to the reader. From: Friam On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2021 4:28 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM]

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

I mean, a dual has a specific meaning in linear programming.Looks like that are some operations on 1-d and 2-d grids? From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 7:53 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development """ It

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

Fine, but dual of a monad has a sort of trivial meaning; like a nicer “run” function. Whereas a continuous relaxation of a discrete optimization problem has semantics which are useful for accelerating an optimization. From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 8:17 AM

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

10:19, Marcus Daniels wrote: It is hard to find the motivation to invest much in category theory when the practical considerations are left as an exercise to the reader. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

Who cares what lurks in the hearts of men? Certainly not the behaviorist! From: Friam On Behalf Of thompnicks...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 11:56 AM To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' Subject: Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development Only I

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

and [biological] development M We behaviorists think you all wear your hearts on your sleeves. n Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com<mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Mo

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

Perhaps it depends whether one cares about a special case, common case, or all instances? And how many useful things can be proven for all instances without any specific semantics in mind. From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 5:17 PM To: friam@redfish.com Subject:

Re: [FRIAM] Revising the American Revolution

Maybe recess and grade school sports are like a lab experiment for parents and teachers and they gain valuable insights (assuming it is not just sadistic)? I have no fond memories of T ball, more like PTSD! And dodge ball (sanctioned) set the stage for literal target practice on the weird kids

Re: [FRIAM] Revising the American Revolution

, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 12:19 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Maybe recess and grade school sports are like a lab experiment for parents and teachers and they gain valuable insights (assuming it is not just sadistic)?

Re: [FRIAM] Revising the American Revolution

had no fruit he zapped it so that it would never produce fruit. Or something like that. Any Bible scholars out there? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 1:02 PM Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: H

Re: [FRIAM] Forum abuse! (was Revising the American Revolution)

In my experience it is Nick that raises some dramatic (to him?) sounding topic, and then starts to backpedal w.r.t. appropriateness of the forum as soon as someone addresses it directly. It is confusing to me why retired people would be particularly cautious in their remarks. What difference

Re: [FRIAM] we are lost

> So, not only do we attribute teleology to inanimate objects, weather, > animals, and people, but also to the platonic solids. Which probably leads > to: > > What do categories want? Love, recognition and safety? Someone phone HR and get the ball rolling on a new policy! Marcus .-- .

Re: [FRIAM] Forum abuse! (was Revising the American Revolution)

may not be clear how this relates to cancel culture or climate change. But, like a joke, explaining it ruins it. [🎮] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_video_game_terms On 10/27/21 1:32 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > It is confusing to me why retired people would be particularly cautious

Re: [FRIAM] Forum abuse! (was Revising the American Revolution)

le, or on the opposite end of the spectrum, too many fast cycles to allow for coherence in the slow cycles. Perhaps the only remaining challenge to the model is identifying the neural correlates? Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Theta. This lump, that lump. That tissue, this tissue. On 10/28/21 11:05 AM, Mar

Re: [FRIAM] Forum abuse! (was Revising the American Revolution)

another guy was not there for that because he fancies himself a philosopher and gets a bit pedantic when/if any one of us gets into the weeds of our own expertise. He would have shut down the whole game early on ... or got all offended and *canceled* us for our sloppy talk. On 10/29/21 9:22

Re: [FRIAM] Forum abuse! (was Revising the American Revolution)

drun strats to get to the lever before the dying and suffering swamps us. But the objective isn't really the destination. The Journey is the destination. I pity those who don't grok that. On 10/29/21 9:50 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > What I was suggesting was that if Greta became an

Re: [FRIAM] we are lost

it is a an abdication and fails as a policy. Nick Nick Thompson thompnicks...@gmail.com<mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -Original Message- From: Friam mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels Sent: Thursda

Re: [FRIAM] Forum abuse! (was Revising the American Revolution)

7;t map very well to the whole world, just like Harry > Potter fans reluctantly admit their classification of people into the houses > isn't real. There are no gratuitous games. Some may not interest others. But > c'est la vie. That's the beauty of the world that is, as opp

Re: [FRIAM] Forum abuse! (was Revising the American Revolution)

Steve writes: < I think some of what Nick and Jon might have identified here as "bullying" might actually be more in the spirit of "Counting Coup", but I'm not really clear on where the two fit together in the GrandUnifiedOntologyDuFriAM > In think it is more in the spirit of bumper cars. Her

Re: [FRIAM] My plan to disrupt education

I think of poor Elizabeth Holmes when I hear this. Silicon Valley has no shortage of white male sociopaths, I think there should be some room for women. Why’s everyone picking on her? Likewise for racists. Anyway, what a perfectly New Mexico story – the big fish in the tiny pond. From: F

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

There is already coercion in the workplace in the form of the org chart. My take on psychological safety is that it is really about bounding and resolving conflict and not letting the outcome of arguments take on truth status or change the political power of the winners or losers. This is in

Re: [FRIAM] Forum abuse! (was Revising the American Revolution)

I must have missed the memo! There is a race to win in bumper cars?! In F1 there is a lot of skill that goes into blocking, and I think the F1 racers learn it as kids in organized go-cart racing. Conversely there is some strategy that goes into drafting in bicycle racing. Aerobic fitness pl

Re: [FRIAM] Rules of Play

I used to take my deaf dog to Santa Fe Tails for day care and on holiday. Tails has cameras in the various rooms so you can watch your pooch. A deaf dog doesn't hear when playing results in a squeal from pain, and so I could see when she was scolded for biting too hard. She learned not to d

Re: [FRIAM] My plan to disrupt education

Enrollment of 2,787 (NMH) vs. 52,946 (UCSD). UC San Diego Admits Record 52,946 First-Year and Transfer Students (ucsd.edu) New Mexico Highlands University | Data USA

Re: [FRIAM] My plan to disrupt education

.an...@gmail.com> 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel On Oct 30, 2021, at 11:59 AM, Marcus Daniels mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: Enrollment of 2,787 (NMH) vs. 52,946 (UCSD). UC San Diego Admits Record 52,946 First-Year and Transfer Students (ucsd.edu)<https://uc

Re: [FRIAM] we are lost

What’s needed are obvious consequences of climate change. There’s no point in explaining something is coming, it needs to happen. On the positive side, one way is with jobs for electric cars, and massive solar/wind generation systems. On the negative side, giant fires and floods help, but

Re: [FRIAM] Unrecognized Thinkers

Ok, I’ll bite. Can’t digital effects mimic tube amplifiers, even by brand? From: Friam On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 11:24 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Unrecognized Thinkers "Digitalization dematerializes mind." That's good. As far as who would be o

Re: [FRIAM] Unrecognized Thinkers

For the purposes of the thread, the question amounts to “Why are the inventions of XYZ important?”, in this case by attaching to the first one you mentioned. Why pursue an old way of doing things, if the new way of doing things (solid state) can do it more accurately, with more control, and at

Re: [FRIAM] Unrecognized Thinkers

I was reading this.. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/child-care-biden-congress-build-back-better/620558/ ..and stopped hard on.. “Many families may even opt to have more children if the burdensome costs of child care are gone.” Why would I possibly want to get behind this?

Re: [FRIAM] Unrecognized Thinkers

What remains from a life? Perhaps a pile of money, but also the impact of those people on our thinking. So my question what is that impact, indeed in principle, other than to name the person? There was something special about how he approached (RF?) engineering? How is this person differe

Re: [FRIAM] lurking

Glen writes: < or as cringy as it may be for some dork to be proud of their Poker prowess, this is the world.> Septic tanks are part of the world too, but that doesn’t mean I enjoy swimming in them. On Nov 1, 2021, at 7:20 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: Holy fire hose, Batman! I'm too ignorant and

Re: [FRIAM] lurking

t being splattered with sh¡t does lead to quite a bit of *enjoyment*. So to ask whether they enjoy being splattered with sh¡t is an ill-formed question, the answer to which is "yes and no". Feel free to pick yet another bone. On 11/1/21 8:02 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Glen writes: &

Re: [FRIAM] lurking

play the game but refuse to admit they're playing a game ... insist that what *they* do is not a game or that it would be wrong, immoral, to gamify it. On 11/1/21 9:28 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Games are indeed everywhere. Topics of inherent interest sometimes fall > under the ca

Re: [FRIAM] lurking

maximization is fixated on merit. And merit is fixated on clicked Likes and money. On 11/1/21 10:26 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I actually don't believe all gamers are lumped into one category. You > argued against two of my so-called lumpings, after all. I see more dark &g

Re: [FRIAM] lurking

s fixated on clicked Likes and money. On 11/1/21 10:26 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I actually don't believe all gamers are lumped into one category. You > argued against two of my so-called lumpings, after all. I see more dark > sides to gaming. Some companies now advocate for

Re: [FRIAM] lurking

think is quality. Others focus on fiefdom. It's an optimization of their silo, their tribe. On 11/1/21 11:05 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Also it depends what the goal is. Does one need to be in a bicycle racing > team to be a serious cyclist? They probably do if they want to race, s

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, so is maximizing, just a little less neutral (by 1 dimension, I guess). Given that we're embedded in a wannabe meritocracy, gaming is miscast as maximizing and maximization is fixated on merit. And merit is fixated on clicked Likes and money. On 11/1/21 10:26 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote

Re: [FRIAM] quantified self (was lurking)

asorta. But it's WAAAYYY lamer than my actual reason, which is simply because it's fun. But such measures can, I agree with you, become a sickness. And when you make yourself sick that way, it's just sad. When you do it to other people, it's despicable. On 11/1/21 11:3

Re: [FRIAM] lurking

n't blame optimization so much as reduction. On 11/1/21 12:21 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > < It's maximizing/optimizing that's to blame. Gaming is > objective-neutral. In some sense, so is maximizing, just a little less > neutral (by 1 dimension, I guess). Given

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