Re: [Bulk] Re: Elgato EyeTV on a G4?

2009-09-23 Thread Charles Lenington
iJohn wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:44 PM, dorayme wrote: > >> Maybe you don't have them in US? In Australia, TV is moving away from >> analog and the free to air stations are broadcasting in Digital and >> HD Digital. >> > > The TV conversion to broadcasting in digital happened in

Re: Elgato EyeTV on a G4?

2009-09-23 Thread i...@sajego.net
On Sep 23, 2009, at 9:44 PM, dorayme wrote: >> I've been thinking about going with a Samsung 26" TV, > > I thought you wanted to save space and go with what you have. I > suggested a set-top box because they are small in footprint, cheap > and have the tuner you need.) > What I have is an ancient

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Charles Lenington
Clark Martin wrote: > > I thought we all had to do that once. It was some sort of requirement. > > You notice they never drop on foam padding or even carpet, only on concrete. > > Now of course there is the "on purpose power up drive , quicky pull power and drop on floor/ The noise is fun. We

Re: [Bulk] Re: Elgato EyeTV on a G4?

2009-09-23 Thread iJohn
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:44 PM, dorayme wrote: > Maybe you don't have them in US? In Australia, TV is moving away from > analog and the free to air stations are broadcasting in Digital and > HD Digital. The TV conversion to broadcasting in digital happened in the United States on June 12 of th

Re: Elgato EyeTV on a G4?

2009-09-23 Thread dorayme
> Date: Wed, Sep 23 2009 2:46 pm > From: "i...@sajego.net" > > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:17 AM, dorayme wrote: > >> >>> Date: Tues, Sep 22 2009 6:48 pm >>> From: "i...@sajego.net" >>> >>> >>> I'm moving to a much smaller apartment in March, and I won't have >>> space for both a TV and a monitor, so

Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.

2009-09-23 Thread Gus
Looking at ebay, it seems all that is advertised is the adapter to hook the old Beige computers up to VGA monitors. Nothing to hook the old DB-15 monitors to a HD-15 card. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group

Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.

2009-09-23 Thread Gus
Sounds like what I need... email me.. gusr...@comcast.net On Sep 23, 8:29 pm, Ken Daggett wrote: > On 23 Sep 2009, at 18:23:13 PDT, Gus wrote: > > > > > > > wait.. the old four pin was RGB.. the monitor is a DB-15.. isn't that > > what they called them??  And the VGA/SVGA is what the Blue and

Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.

2009-09-23 Thread Ken Daggett
On 23 Sep 2009, at 18:23:13 PDT, Gus wrote: > wait.. the old four pin was RGB.. the monitor is a DB-15.. isn't that > what they called them?? And the VGA/SVGA is what the Blue and White > uses... > > Anyways.. I have a DB-15 Monitor and I want to hook it up to the VGA > port of the B&W. > > On

Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.

2009-09-23 Thread Gus
wait.. the old four pin was RGB.. the monitor is a DB-15.. isn't that what they called them?? And the VGA/SVGA is what the Blue and White uses... Anyways.. I have a DB-15 Monitor and I want to hook it up to the VGA port of the B&W. On Sep 23, 7:17 pm, Gus wrote: > Right, I have a monitor that

Re: Video Driver Question.

2009-09-23 Thread Gus
Okay... I must have been thinking ISA cards.. I remember now that the ISA cards are 32/64.. Least in my Blue and white. all the pictures are tiny and I cant really get a good look to see how wide it is. The review I was looking at says that it will work in a beige after 10.1.4. which will be fi

Re: Video Driver Question.

2009-09-23 Thread Kris Tilford
On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Gus wrote: > Looking at the picture on the website. It looks like the Radeon 7000 > card is an PCI 32 bit card. The Beige G3 has 16 bit PCI slots. Is > the card dual 16/32 bit compatible? The Beige can use any Mac ROM PCI video card. The only cards that are inco

Re: Video Driver Question.

2009-09-23 Thread Gus
Looking at the picture on the website. It looks like the Radeon 7000 card is an PCI 32 bit card. The Beige G3 has 16 bit PCI slots. Is the card dual 16/32 bit compatible? Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group

Re: Video Driver Question.

2009-09-23 Thread Gus
they had some 7000 mac drivers at the AMD site. http://www.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDHomePage.aspx On Sep 22, 2:41 pm, Geke wrote: > Small correction: I just found a nice review of this card, which also > says that the drivers come on a CD with the card. Look > here:http://www.giantmike.com/review

Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.

2009-09-23 Thread Gus
Right, I have a monitor that is on a Beige G3 that I want to connect to a VGA connector on a B&W G3. So, I need to go from VGA to the four pin Apple Monitors. On Sep 23, 1:49 pm, "J.M.P.Hissel" wrote: > On 23-09-2009 01:26, Chance Reecher, cnrtechh...@gmail.com, wrote: > > > Are we talking abou

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Clark Martin wrote: >> >> What got me is that it landed perfectly *on edge*, from desk height, >> and stayed there. All it ever did was make a sort of >> SKKKSSSHHHSKKKSHHH grinding noise after that... > > I don't know how mine landed, cursing makes it hard to make

Re: Elgato EyeTV on a G4?

2009-09-23 Thread i...@sajego.net
On Sep 23, 2009, at 9:48 AM, Robert MacLeay wrote: > > Your problem is a bit more fundamental; your G4 simply does not have > the horsepower to play HD content. :) I was rapidly coming to that conclusion. > > I realize that it must hurt, but technologically speaking, all PowerPC > Macs are obsol

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Mel
Yes indeed that is what I suggested.  Test it first in the G4 after cloning to see if it boots.  If it does, then make the R&R. --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Bruce Johnson wrote: From: Bruce Johnson Subject: Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Wednesd

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Clark Martin
Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > >>> Make sure you don't take the extra step of dropping the hard drive >>> onto the concrete floor like I did one time. :-) >>> >> I thought we all had to do that once. It was some sort of >> requirement. >> >> You no

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Sam Macomber
On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:03 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Clark Martin wrote: > >>> >>> Make sure you don't take the extra step of dropping the hard drive >>> onto the concrete floor like I did one time. :-) >>> >> >> I thought we all had to do that once. It was some

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:35 PM, Clark Martin wrote: >> >> Make sure you don't take the extra step of dropping the hard drive >> onto the concrete floor like I did one time. :-) >> > > I thought we all had to do that once. It was some sort of > requirement. > > You notice they never drop on foam

Re: iMac 233mhz & tiger? how?

2009-09-23 Thread Jonas Ulrich
Yeah just plug them into the same router or use a cross over cable. Just make sure that you have file sharing setup on both. And the user info for both -Jonas On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: > > The 233MHZ didn't have fir

Re: Elgato EyeTV on a G4?

2009-09-23 Thread i...@sajego.net
On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:17 AM, dorayme wrote: > >> Date: Tues, Sep 22 2009 6:48 pm >> From: "i...@sajego.net" >> >> >> I'm moving to a much smaller apartment in March, and I won't have >> space for both a TV and a monitor, so I'm trying to figure out how to >> make one work as both. > > Especially i

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Clark Martin
Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:37 PM, mkehoe wrote: > >> Thanks Bruce & Dan - >> >> I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can >> just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install >> them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. >> > > Y

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 2:19 PM, Mel wrote: > Here is a suggestion that I believe will be better for you. > > Have you considered buying a used second HD. > > If you do, install it as a slave in your current CPU. Use CCC to > clone it. Restart and reboot holding down the option key. When the

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Mel
Here is a suggestion that I believe will be better for you. Have you considered buying a used second HD.  If you do, install it as a slave in your current CPU.  Use CCC to clone it.  Restart and reboot holding down the option key.  When the arrow appears, click on the slave drive and continue

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:37 PM, mkehoe wrote: > > Thanks Bruce & Dan - > > I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can > just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install > them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. > Yep. Make sure you don't take the e

Re: RAM

2009-09-23 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 23-09-2009 04:48, Stephen Conrad, khel...@gmail.com, wrote: > > OK, MacTracker isn't telling me anything and a google search is less > than helpful. > Which Macs can this RAM be used in? > > PC2700U-25330 > > Type: PC100 SDRAM CL2, single sided First start with determining the tech specs o

Re: iMac 233mhz & tiger? how?

2009-09-23 Thread Jeffrey Engle
On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Jonas Ulrich wrote: > The 233MHZ didn't have firewire. The easiest way would to use > xpostfacto. I have used it to run a few different os's on beige > g3's. While I have run 10.4 on 128MB ram it runs slow. Definitely > max out the ram. Even if you only run 10.3

Re: iMac 233mhz & tiger? how?

2009-09-23 Thread Jonas Ulrich
The 233MHZ didn't have firewire. The easiest way would to use xpostfacto. I have used it to run a few different os's on beige g3's. While I have run 10.4 on 128MB ram it runs slow. Definitely max out the ram. Even if you only run 10.3. That would be the best thing to run, because you wouldn't even

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Jonas Ulrich
I moved a boot drive with 10.4 server on it from a single 533MHZ digital audio to a dual 1GHZ xserve, and then a dual 1.33GHZ xserve and it booted right up. -Jonas On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:37 PM, mkehoe wrote: > > Thanks Bruce & Dan - > > I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sou

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread mkehoe
Thanks Bruce & Dan - I don't have any music purchased from iTunes, so it sounds like I can just shut down the 867mHz G4, take out the hard drives, and install them into the 1.25mHz G4 and power it up. Correct? Mira On Sep 23, 1:49 pm, Dan wrote: > At 11:20 AM -0700 9/23/2009, mkehoe wrote: >

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Dan
At 11:20 AM -0700 9/23/2009, mkehoe wrote: >Bruce & others - > >I appreciate your comments. This is the first time I am changing from >one computer to another. I want to make sure I understand about the >process of authorization. This has nothing to do with just moving the HDs - the OS and apps

Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.

2009-09-23 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 23-09-2009 01:26, Chance Reecher, cnrtechh...@gmail.com, wrote: > Are we talking about the ADC port (digital) or the Apple monitor > connector (analog)? > There are simple little pin adapters for the latter that are very cheap. > As for converting a VGA signal to ADC, a signal conversion has t

Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.

2009-09-23 Thread J.M.P.Hissel
On 23-09-2009 00:58, Gus, gusr...@comcast.net, wrote: > I saw a post awhile back where someone was trying to interface an old > apple monitor to a newer VGA card. Was there any resolution to that? > Does anyone make an adapter for the old monitors for use with the VGA > standard sockets? I know

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:20 AM, mkehoe wrote: > I want to make sure I understand about the > process of authorization. We have one computer at present, (MDD G4 > dual 867mHz), registered with Apple. The authorization only affects iTunes, and then only if you have bought video or audio content

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread mkehoe
Bruce & others - I appreciate your comments. This is the first time I am changing from one computer to another. I want to make sure I understand about the process of authorization. We have one computer at present, (MDD G4 dual 867mHz), registered with Apple. We want to move the internal hard

Re: iMac 233mhz & tiger? how?

2009-09-23 Thread Dan
At 10:50 AM -0700 9/23/2009, Jeffrey Engle wrote: >No firewire...on this imac. Ah. Then (memory issue notwithstanding) you have to disk swap or do a real install. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

Best browser for OS 9.2.2 was.. iMac 233mhz & tiger? how?

2009-09-23 Thread Jeffrey Engle
Ok, since it's not gonna get OS X... what about a browser? the best one? Jeff On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Dan wrote: > > At 10:16 AM -0700 9/23/2009, Jeffrey Engle wrote: >> I've got a 233mhz imac sitting here on my desk... the old puck mouse, >> 160mhz ram. currently running mac os 9.0... I'

Re: iMac 233mhz & tiger? how?

2009-09-23 Thread Jeffrey Engle
No firewire...on this imac. Jeff On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:34 AM, Dan wrote: > Connect the iMac to another Mac via firewire Target Disk Mode then > use CCC to slam the system over. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group,

Re: iMac 233mhz & tiger? how?

2009-09-23 Thread Dan
At 10:16 AM -0700 9/23/2009, Jeffrey Engle wrote: >I've got a 233mhz imac sitting here on my desk... the old puck mouse, >160mhz ram. currently running mac os 9.0... I' never played with these >old guys, Is there a way to load tiger on it via another mac? Jeff Connect the iMac to another Mac via

Re: iMac 233mhz & tiger? how?

2009-09-23 Thread Christopher Clarke
There is, but it involves removing the HD. For this Mac, youre better off with OS 9, unless you upgrade the RAM to at least 256MB and even then 10.3 Panther is probably a better bet. Chris. On 23 Sep 2009, at 18:16, Jeffrey Engle wrote: > > I've got a 233mhz imac sitting here on my desk... t

iMac 233mhz & tiger? how?

2009-09-23 Thread Jeffrey Engle
I've got a 233mhz imac sitting here on my desk... the old puck mouse, 160mhz ram. currently running mac os 9.0... I' never played with these old guys, Is there a way to load tiger on it via another mac? Jeff --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message becau

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: > > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > >> >> >> On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Nestamicky wrote: >> >>> Would transferring just the >>> application folder from one machine to another result in the same? >> >> >> iTunes, (and possi

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Len Gerstel
On Sep 23, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > > On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Nestamicky wrote: > >> Would transferring just the >> application folder from one machine to another result in the same? > > > iTunes, (and possibly other applications) uses the MAC address of the > built-in et

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:06 AM, Nestamicky wrote: > > On 9/23/09 6:38 AM, Mel wrote: >> I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident >> several times among various G4s > Mel, did your app worked after this? In my case all apps worked...a HD is a 'total brian transplant' and

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:42 AM, mkehoe wrote: > > > I need to move my internal hard drives, including the start-up drive > from a G4 dual 867mHz to a G4 1.25mHz. They are from the same line, > August 2002. I have made a clone of the start-up as a back-up copy. Yep, no issues at all. The drive in m

Re: Adapter for the OLD Monitors with use with VGA card.

2009-09-23 Thread trag
On Sep 22, 5:58 pm, Gus wrote: > I saw a post awhile back where someone was trying to interface an old > apple monitor to a newer VGA card. Was there any resolution to that? > Does anyone make an adapter for the old monitors for use with the VGA > standard sockets? I know they made adapters to

Re: Elgato EyeTV on a G4?

2009-09-23 Thread Robert MacLeay
Your problem is a bit more fundamental; your G4 simply does not have the horsepower to play HD content. Elgato recommends a dual G5 as the minimum hardware for HD. That's bare minimum. I realize that it must hurt, but technologically speaking, all PowerPC Macs are obsolete and falling further be

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Charles Lenington
mkehoe wrote: > I need to move my internal hard drives, including the start-up drive > from a G4 dual 867mHz to a G4 1.25mHz. They are from the same line, > August 2002. I have made a clone of the start-up as a back-up copy. > > Can I just move the hard drives from the 867 to the 1.25, and boot up

Re: Video card install

2009-09-23 Thread Jim McGee
On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:50 AM, Len Gerstel wrote: > > > On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Jim McGee wrote: > >> >> Hey folks- >> >> Getting ready to replace the video card in my Quicksilver 867 >> (single, pre 2002) and want to make sure that it is done >> properly. >> >> Present card: Rag

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread mkehoe
Both are MDD dual G4 from this line: CPU CPU: PowerPC 7455 "G4" CPU Speed: 2x867 MHz/2x1.0 GHz/2x1.25 GHz FPU: integrated Bus Speed: 166 MHz Data Path Width: 64 bit Address Width: 32 bit ROM: 1 MB ROM + 3 MB toolbox ROM loaded into RAM RAM Type: PC2700 DDR Minimum RAM Speed: 333 MHz Onboard RAM:

Re: Video card install

2009-09-23 Thread Len Gerstel
On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Jim McGee wrote: > > Hey folks- > > Getting ready to replace the video card in my Quicksilver 867 > (single, pre 2002) and want to make sure that it is done properly. > > Present card: Rage 128 Pro (16 mb) > Replacement:nVidia 5200, AGP (128 mb)

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Mel
> I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident > several times among various G4s Mel, did your app worked after this? Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result === That is a different question.  All 'my' Apps worked in all the G4s b

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Nestamicky
On 9/23/09 6:38 AM, Mel wrote: > I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident > several times among various G4s Mel, did your app worked after this? Would transferring just the application folder from one machine to another result in the same? --~--~-~--~~-

Re: Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread Mel
If the OS is comparable for both CPUs, it seems that you can make the mechanical transfer of the HD and boot without incident. I've swapped boot HDs and booted the receiving CPU without incident several times among various G4s but none newer than a DA.  E.G. Swapping a boot HD from a DP DA to a

Re: Elgato EyeTV on a G4?

2009-09-23 Thread dorayme
> Date: Tues, Sep 22 2009 6:48 pm > From: "i...@sajego.net" > > > I'm moving to a much smaller apartment in March, and I won't have > space for both a TV and a monitor, so I'm trying to figure out how to > make one work as both. Especially if it has speakers, the simplest is to plug in a set-top

Re: Video card install

2009-09-23 Thread pdimage
On 23/9/09 07:40, "dorayme" wrote: > Turn off your machine, open it, put the power cord back in (the wall > socket to off position though) and have everything ready. Touch the > metal part of the QS (not any electronics!). Handle both cards by the > edges only (just look and don't touch the elec

Moving hard drives from one dual G4 to another

2009-09-23 Thread mkehoe
I need to move my internal hard drives, including the start-up drive from a G4 dual 867mHz to a G4 1.25mHz. They are from the same line, August 2002. I have made a clone of the start-up as a back-up copy. Can I just move the hard drives from the 867 to the 1.25, and boot up the 1.25, or is there

Re: RAM

2009-09-23 Thread Charles Lenington
Stephen Conrad wrote: > OK, MacTracker isn't telling me anything and a google search is less > than helpful. > Which Macs can this RAM be used in? > > PC2700U-25330 > HYMD264646B8J-J AA > 512MB DDR 333MHz CL2.5 > > start at 15" and go up to 17" iMac. both 200 and 184 pin listed. take this tim