Re: plain text please

On Jul 18, 2010, at 12:18 AM, Dan wrote: snip Frankly, if you're dying to send pretty messages then go find a service that's Forum based. Myself, I'll continue to hit cmd-D as soon as I open a gaudy POS HTML email on these groups. Exactly. And, the "forum" format AFAIC sucks big time

Re: plain text please

On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:41 AM, Judith Berkowitz wrote: I opt to receive all my Lists in Digest Format. If a post is in anything but plain text, it doesn't come through as a readable. Ditto here. It's just that simple... JT Ge

Re: plain text please

On 7/17/10 10:18 PM, Dan wrote: > [HTML stripped, as necessary] *snip* > Remember that the purpose of these LEM mailing lists is TECHNICAL > SUPPORT, not pretty animated icon cutsie email chatty please pass the > nail polish. That's a good one Dan, I'll have to remember that one. > I don't spea

Re: Disc Burning

JOHN CARMONNE wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Peter Haas wrote: On Jul 17, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Amanda Ward wrote: Any recommendations for an external disc burner for an iMac G5 (maybe Intel iMac) to do DVD/DL and lightscribe? Buffalo, which has a Sony Optiarc super multi-burner inside a w

Re: plain text please

Dan wrote: HTML email is often done by hardcoding the font sizes. That means your email will ALWAYS be unreadable to someone. HTML email ONLY looks good if the receiver has the SAME type of mail client you do. That means your email will ALWAYS be unreadable to someone. I'm curious, how does

ESata to Sata help...

Hello everybody, i bought an external enclosure for my 320GB seagate drive about 2 months ago, and then received anther one from tyler. I have the 320GB Seagate in the enclosure right now, and while I was in the process of plugging in the new 320GB Sata drive I got, i couldn't help to notice that I

Card Reader

Mac: Quicksilver G4 OS: OS X 10.4.11 I bought a Targus Universal 32 in 1 card reader/writer It says for Macs you need OS X 10.1.2+ and a CD-ROM 24x (Mine: Model: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B) I plugged it in on various USB ports and it never shows up (I put 2 different cards in it to test it and see

Re: plain text please

Yes it is Low End Mac as I have more than once pointed out in the past/ But even low enders move on. My 9600 can handle HTML quite. well. As for you on dial up I hope your city opts for whole access wifi soon. Any techies here complaining about being billed per kb or on dialup or slow connections e

Re: Card Reader

What you also need to remember is that if the memory card has been formatted in windows only. Some readers will not so it up in a mac enviroment. I have had this problem a few times with different types of cards. Billy. On 18 Jul 2010, at 13:11, Stephen Conrad wrote: Mac: Quicksilver G4 O

Re: plain text please

At 12:13 AM -0600 7/18/2010, Tina K. wrote: Dan wrote: HTML email is often done by hardcoding the font sizes. That means your email will ALWAYS be unreadable to someone. HTML email ONLY looks good if the receiver has the SAME type of mail client you do. That means your email will ALWAYS be un

Re: plain text please

At 12:38 PM + 7/18/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: As for you on dial up I hope your city opts for whole access wifi soon. Not likely, as there are big movements at the state levels to ban gov't owned/operated ISPs. The few towns that have rolled their own service really put the fe

Re: Card Reader

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 7:39 AM, william Bowles wrote: > What you also need to remember is that if the memory card has been > formatted in windows only. Some readers will not so it up in a mac > enviroment. I have had this problem a few times with different types of > cards. > > Billy. One is a

Re: ESata to Sata help...

At 1:51 AM -0400 7/18/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: PM G4 sawtooth. external enclosure for my 320GB seagate drive about 2 months ago, and then received anther one from tyler. I have the 320GB Seagate in the enclosure right now, and while I was in the process of plugging in the new 320GB Sata d

OT:To Any Hams On The List

Please contact me off-list if you are a Ham. Thanks, Dennis Myhand -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our ne

Re: plain text please

This is low end. Not belittling the low end nor those who struggle to eke out a living. But complaining about such a trivial thing as this and using bandwidth as a reason seems antiquated in 2010. As far as a " physical situation " I am no mind reader and have no idea of what you are talking about

Re: Card Reader

On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: > Mac: Quicksilver G4 > OS: OS X 10.4.11 > > I bought a Targus Universal 32 in 1 card reader/writer > It says for Macs you need OS X 10.1.2+ and a CD-ROM 24x (Mine: Model: > HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B) > > I plugged it in on various USB

Re: plain text please

> As for you on dial up I hope your city opts for whole access > wifi soon. Note one important word in this sentence: "city." Now, I've got high-speed Internet and can download all the rich-text HTML stupidly-formatted email I want to (although I still prefer plain text), but many of my friends

Nanny note Re: plain text please

Folks, per the official Low End Mac Email List FAQs: http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > Don't send styled text or HTML files; only send plain text. Styled text may > or may not come through as an attachment, but it is very difficult to read > with a plain text email client. Googl

Re: plain text please

At 1:47 PM + 7/18/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: As to whether a techie should worry about HTML mail in terms of IP cost and the strain on computer systems if you are teching for other low enders be realistic, is the grief you are getting worth the grief you are getting? IOW is it payi

Re: plain text please

On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Dan wrote: > At 1:47 PM + 7/18/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: >> As to whether a techie should worry about HTML mail in terms of IP >> cost and the strain on computer systems if you are teching for other >> low enders be realistic, is the grief you are gett

Re: plain text please

Metered service? Who has metered service? The UK? If that is the only thing available that is what you go with but then why bother at all. A phone call would be preferable. And hopefully the post office is still around. You still think anyone who has a machine new enough to be on the G list notice

Re: plain text please

The list rules are very clear. If you don't like it or don't want to follow this rules then get off the list. Peter M. Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" Sender: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 14:34:11 To: Reply-To: g3-5-li

Re: plain text please

On Jul 18, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: > Metered service? Who has metered service? The UK? If that is the only > thing available that is what you go with but then why bother at all. A > phone call would be preferable. And hopefully the post office is still > around. Plenty

Re: plain text please

Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Metered service? Who has metered service? The UK? If that is the only thing available that is what you go with but then why bother at all. A phone call would be preferable. And hopefully the post office is still around. Most of us in the UK are on ADSL or Cab

Re: plain text please

Dan wrote: > Remember that the purpose of these LEM mailing lists is TECHNICAL > SUPPORT, not pretty animated icon cutsie email chatty please pass the > nail polish. > > I don't speak for the other techies on these lists... but wading thru > HTML-based emails, just like TOP POSTED and UNTRIMMED

Re: plain text please

Personally, I don't give a damn. What is annoying is over 100 messages debating it eating my time and bandwidth. Mikeal Palulis Kallisti Medias On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:36 AM, "t...@io.com" wrote: > > > Dan wrote: > >> Remember that the purpose of these LEM mailing lists is TECHNICAL >> SUP

Pismo surfing freezes

I have a 500 mhz Pismo running 10.4.11, Safari and an original Airport card. Every time I try to get on the internet, it opens the first couple of pages, then when you try to go to the 3rd or 4th page it freezes, with the progress bar just about at http://. At that point, if I try to give up and

Re: Pismo surfing freezes

On Jul 18, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Bruce - in Orlando wrote: > I have a 500 mhz Pismo running 10.4.11, Safari and an original Airport > card. Every time I try to get on the internet, it opens the first > couple of pages, then when you try to go to the 3rd or 4th page it > freezes, with the progress ba

Re: plain text please

At 11:52 AM -0400 7/18/2010, Nikki Wraith wrote: What is annoying is over 100 messages debating it eating my time and bandwidth. 43 messages, not 100. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for t

Re: Disc Burning

On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tina K. wrote: IIRC, non-oem ODDs don't function with the iLife apps. At least I think it used to be that way, haven't heard it mentioned in a long time. I think there used to be a hack called 'Fair Burn' or something that would fool the iLife apps into thinkin

Re: Disc Burning

On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tina K. wrote: > >> IIRC, non-oem ODDs don't function with the iLife apps. At least I think it >> used to be that way, haven't heard it mentioned in a long time. >> I think there used to be a hack called 'Fair

Re: plain text please ... 44, do we have 50?

On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Dan wrote: At 11:52 AM -0400 7/18/2010, Nikki Wraith wrote: What is annoying is over 100 messages debating it eating my time and bandwidth. 43 messages, not 100. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because

Re: Pismo surfing freezes

At 9:03 AM -0700 7/18/2010, Bruce - in Orlando wrote: 500 mhz Pismo running 10.4.11 Safari What version of Safari? What plug-ins, add-ons, inputmanagers have you insalled? Every time I try to get on the internet, it opens the first couple of pages, then when you try to go to the 3rd or 4th

Re: plain text please

On 7/17/10 3:10 PM, "Kevin Barth" wrote: > With due respect, seems to me that a steadfast insistence on plain text is > dated and unrealistic. This is not up for debate. It has to due with the bandwidth that google allows our group etc. Plain text or leave the list. Sorry. Kyle Hansen LEM Li

Re: plain text please

On 7/17/10 9:50 PM, "Kevin Barth" wrote: > The fact that "things have always been done this way" has never been a > particularly compelling argument against change.  To quite the Brady Bunch, > "When it's time to change, then it's time to change." Listen, the rule is there for a reason. To make

Re: plain text please ... 44, do we have 50?

On 7/18/10 9:33 AM, "Bill Connelly" wrote: > List Nanny would you stop all this? I just did. I will do it again. THIS THREAD IS DEAD. DO NOT POST ON THIS TOPIC ANYMORE. FURTHER POSTS ON THIS TOPIC MAY RESULT IN A TEMPORARY BAN FROM THE LIST. This was the last thing I wanted to wake up to an

iCab 4.8

iCab was just recently updated again, so I thought I'd take it for a spin. I used to use iCab as much as WaMCom Mozilla, on OS 9. Liked it on OS X too, but then I ended up using Safari more and more. So far so good - seems nice. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Je

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

On 7/17/10 10:29 AM, "Dan" wrote: > At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: >> What I'm referring to is a disk that comes with a particular machine >> and when I try to install it tells me it "can't work on this >> machine" I know the system is all the same but you're stuck with >> usin

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

On Jul 18, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > On 7/17/10 10:29 AM, "Dan" wrote: > >> At 5:33 AM -0700 7/16/2010, John Carmonne wrote: > >>> What I'm referring to is a disk that comes with a particular machine >>> and when I try to install it tells me it "can't work on this >>> machine" I

ventrilo and g5 tower

does anyone use venrilo with world of warcraft on a G5 tower? I'm having microphone problems to headset. I can seem to get sound out. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The

Re: plain text please

is the controlling document for the basics of internet email. (Some would claim that the real RTF is 822 which is formally approved and not still "standards track". It's worth a read. Its also worth while to poke around on that site for general education

Re: Disc Burning

Eric Herbert wrote: On Jul 18, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Jul 17, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tina K. wrote: > >> IIRC, non-oem ODDs don't function with the iLife apps. At least I think it used to be that way, haven't heard it mentioned in a long time. >> I think there used to be

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

On 7/18/10 12:22 PM, "John Carmonne" wrote: > AFAIK threre is no retail universal disc for Tiger Intel Tiger was compiled to run on intel only based machines so you can't run it on a non PPC machine. Same with Snow Leopard. Since it was compiled as an intel stack it won't run on PPC. You can

Re: plain text please

On 7/18/10 12:51 PM, "Doug McNutt" wrote: > is the controlling document for the > basics of internet email. (Some would claim that the real RTF is 822 which is > formally approved and not still "standards track". It's worth a read. Its > also worth while

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

On 7/18/10 2:09 PM, "Kyle Hansen" wrote: > On 7/18/10 12:22 PM, "John Carmonne" wrote: > Tiger was compiled to run on PPC only based machines so you can't run it > on a non PPC machine. Same with Snow Leopard. Since it was compiled as an > intel stack it won't run on PPC. You can't hack that

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

On Jul 18, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 7/18/10 12:22 PM, "John Carmonne" wrote: AFAIK threre is no retail universal disc for Tiger Intel Tiger was compiled to run on intel only based machines so you can't run it on a non PPC machine. I believe you meant "PPC machine" rathe

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Jul 18, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: > >> On 7/18/10 12:22 PM, "John Carmonne" wrote: >> >>> AFAIK threre is no retail universal disc for Tiger Intel >> >> Tiger was compiled to run on intel only based machines so you can't run it

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: Tiger was compiled to run on PPC only based machines so you can't run it on a non PPC machine. However, The first Intel iMacs came pre-installed with Tiger (OS 10.4.4):

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

Kyle Hansen wrote: Sorry. Mistyped that last one. To follow up on my message, I was thinking of Leopard. Too many felines… Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The

Latest iTunes update no burn?

Hi all I have a "PM G4 MDD" and a "PM G5 Dual 2.7". Ever since the last iTunes update neither machine will burn a CD in iTunes booted in Tiger, both work OK in Leopard. Anyone else with this problem? I've reinstalled many ways and still no cigar, funny though my TiBook G4 has no problem in Tige

Re: Latest iTunes update no burn?

On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:07 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > Hi all > > I have a "PM G4 MDD" and a "PM G5 Dual 2.7". Ever since the last iTunes > update neither machine will burn a CD in iTunes booted in Tiger, both work OK > in Leopard. Anyone else with this problem? > I've reinstalled many ways and s

Re: Latest iTunes update no burn?

On Jul 18, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Eric Herbert wrote: On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:07 PM, John Carmonne wrote: Hi all I have a "PM G4 MDD" and a "PM G5 Dual 2.7". Ever since the last iTunes update neither machine will burn a CD in iTunes booted in Tiger, both work OK in Leopard. Anyone else with th

Re: Card Reader

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Isaac Smith wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: > > Mac: Quicksilver G4 > OS: OS X 10.4.11 > > I bought a Targus Universal 32 in 1 card reader/writer > It says for Macs you need OS X 10.1.2+ and a CD-ROM 24x (Mine: Model: > HL-DT-ST > C

Re: Card Reader

> Here is what System Profiler says > > Mass Storage Device: > > Version:1.00 > Bus Power (mA): 100 > Speed: Up to 12 Mb/sec > Manufacturer: Generic > Product ID: 0x6366 > Serial Number: 058F63666471 > Vendor ID: 0x058f So it looks like System Profiler does

Re: Latest iTunes update no burn?

On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:40 PM, JOHN CARMONNE wrote: I have Pioneer drives, But they work properly in Leopard, The Tiger partitions are the problem. I read on Google of others complaining about iTunes latest update, But no answers from the mother ship. I think this has been answered already. F

Re: Latest iTunes update no burn?

On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > I think this has been answered already. For non-Apple OEM drives you need > Patchburn for Tiger. It's nothing to do with the iTunes update, you need > Patchburn to add support for all Apple applications including Disk Utility, > iMovie, etc

Re: Card Reader

On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Vendor ID: 0x058f When I Google "0x058f" I immediately see "Generic USB 2.0 cardreader" which makes me think this device likely requires a USB 2.0 port to work? It would be worth the investment in a cheap USB 2.0 PCI card. Also, unl

Re: Latest iTunes update no burn?

On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Eric Herbert wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > >> >> I think this has been answered already. For non-Apple OEM drives you need >> Patchburn for Tiger. It's nothing to do with the iTunes update, you need >> Patchburn to add support for

Re: Latest iTunes update no burn?

On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:48 PM, John Carmonne wrote: That's not the problem here. His drives have been working fine WITHOUT Patchburn (many drives work flawlessly on Tiger without the use of PatchBurn) until the last iTunes update. It's something to do with the iTunes update itself, perhap

Re: Change machine specific installer requirements

At 12:22 PM -0700 7/18/2010, John Carmonne wrote: AFAIK threre is no retail universal disc for Tiger Intel on a MacBook or Mac Mini at ant price? Correct. Apple never released a universal Tiger. The Tiger retail kits are all PPC-only. The early x86 Macs came with machine-specific x86-onl

Re: Latest iTunes update no burn?

On Jul 18, 2010, at 6:01 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:48 PM, John Carmonne wrote: >>> That's not the problem here. His drives have been working fine WITHOUT >>> Patchburn (many drives work flawlessly on Tiger without the use of >>> PatchBurn) until the last iTunes

Re: Card Reader

I was thinking the same thing. Also, once you get into SD cards, some higher capacity or higher speeds ones will require "later," higher-capacity readers. On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: When I Google "0x058f" I immediately see "Generic USB 2.0 cardreader" which makes me

Re: plain text please

On Jul 18, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: On 7/17/10 3:10 PM, "Kevin Barth" wrote: With due respect, seems to me that a steadfast insistence on plain text is dated and unrealistic. This is not up for debate. It has to due with the bandwidth that google allows our group etc. Plai

Re: Card Reader

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 8:56 PM, onelucent wrote: > I was thinking the same thing. Also, once you get into SD cards, some > higher capacity or higher speeds ones will require "later," higher-capacity > readers. > > On Jul 18, 2010, at 8:17 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: > > When I Google "0x058f" I imm

Re: Card Reader

On Jul 18, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I plugged it into a 4 Port USB 2.0 Hub It is plugged into a 4 Port USB Hub (Model F5U014-OE) which is plugged into the tower. The ports on your G4 are USB 1.0 ports, so anything attached to them is by default USB 1.0. You need to buy a

Re: Card Reader

On 7/18/10 6:56 PM, onelucent wrote: I was thinking the same thing. Also, once you get into SD cards, some higher capacity or higher speeds ones will require "later," higher-capacity readers. In one case I encountered where this was a problem the 4Gb SD card showed up in the older card reader

Re: Card Reader

On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: I bought a Targus Universal 32 in 1 card reader/writer It says for Macs you need OS X 10.1.2+ and a CD-ROM 24x Why would a 24x CD-ROM be a requirement for a USB 2.0 cardreader, this makes no sense. If you look at this page, it appears that

Re: Card Reader

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Clark Martin wrote: > On 7/18/10 6:56 PM, onelucent wrote: > >> I was thinking the same thing. Also, once you get into SD cards, some >> higher capacity or higher speeds ones will require "later," >> higher-capacity readers. >> > > In one case I encountered wher

Re: Card Reader

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Kris Tilford wrote: > On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:11 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: > > I bought a Targus Universal 32 in 1 card reader/writer >> It says for Macs you need OS X 10.1.2+ and a CD-ROM 24x >> > > Why would a 24x CD-ROM be a requirement for a USB 2.0 cardreader