[Audyssey] GMA games DirectSound issues, was A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Folks, David Greenwood has a fix for his DirectSound issues, however he is still adding features to the game engine so hasn't released a patch for Shades of Doom Tank Commander and my Sarah, Harry Potter game yet. The beta test version I have makes sounds pann better on Vista, Windows 7

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread john
My point was more that there's no software that was made unusable by win7 that wasn't originally written for windows 9x. Essentially that all xp software I can think of runs on win7. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] GMA games DirectSound issues, was A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread lenron brown
I can't wait to buy this game I am using windows 8 and would love to play the full version new and improved whart will be the price.q On 9/13/13, Phil Vlasak phi...@bex.net wrote: Hi Folks, David Greenwood has a fix for his DirectSound issues, however he is still adding features to the game

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Josh
when my new ram memory comes in the mail I too will be giving this laptop 2 more gigs of ram so it too can run all kinds of virtual machines. sent from my vinux4 linux laptop On 09/12/2013 09:11 PM, shaun everiss wrote: hmmm we just can't win eh? its why I still do use xp for now. eventually

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread James Bartlett
Hello I know that Win 7 will run MS Office 03. It's what I use at school. They have Win 7 and there running MS Office 03. bfn James -- From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:58 PM To: Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] GMA games DirectSound issues, was A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Phil Vlasak
Lenron, I assume you mean, Sarah and the Castle of Witchcraft and Wizardry $31.95 I'll be posting a list of changes when the game is finished, and has been tested by my private beta team. Phil - Original Message - From: lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list

[Audyssey] Weirdest game ever encountered

2013-09-13 Thread Kim Friedman
Hi folks, some of you may have game clients as I do, particularly the RS games client and the QuentinC playroom client. Well, the QuentinC programmers have added another game to the mix, i.e., French tarot which is a trick-taking game in the style of other such games. I assure you I've read the

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Draconis
Hi Tom, I couldn't resist responding to this with a little humor, and a prime example of why Microsoft is so far behind. My responses throughout your message… On Sep 12, 2013, at 2:49 PM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote: *snip* The new Search feature is great. I can open the Start

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Trouble
Now there is a joke if not a real slap in the face. you might want to think about this one Thomas. Yes give it xp support and build for the other version as you wish. Charles and those wanting to stay on xp can. Now here is the good part. Charles stated that they will pay for the better

Re: [Audyssey] GMA games DirectSound issues, was A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Darren Duff
Good news! Can't wait. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Phil Vlasak Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 6:56 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] GMA games DirectSound issues, was A Note to XP users Hi Folks, David Greenwood has

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Josh
also Linux users have enjoyed those features for years also since 2005 or so onwards as well. Touch-screen support in ubuntu? not yet. but if you want it you can get a modern jellybean android tablet a lot cheaper than an iPad. sent from my vinux4 linux laptop On 09/13/2013 09:43 AM,

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread James Bartlett
Hello Trouble All I have to say is well put. bfn James -- From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:32 AM To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Subject: Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users Now there is a

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Draconis
You can get cheaper tablets than the iPad, but you get what you pay for. There's a reason why more than 90% of tablet web traffic is from iPads and not Android…people don't actually use their Android tablets in general. Eventually, hopefully, someone will make a decent Android tablet, but that

[Audyssey] paying for upgrades - Re: A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Charles Rivard
Wrong, at least in my case. If a game was to originally be developed that required XP, and I purchased it, and is now available for users of Windows 8 which I have just installed, I would actually expect to pay a small upgrade fee to get the game I now need. If the developer does not charge

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi trouble, Hahaha! I know. I seriously would not consider charging for upgrades unless it was really major because although I like making money I wouldn't feel obligated to charge for basic operating system support for the lifetime of a certain product. Usually I feel something like that needs

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, I don't know if you have ever owned or used an Android Tablet, but I personally think they aren't worth the price. The accessibility is quite poor compared to iPods, Android is wide open to viruses and other malware, and they can't be updated as easily as an iPod. As someone use to say,

[Audyssey] OS development outruns game development

2013-09-13 Thread Charles Rivard
Speaking of unreleased game titles such as Raceway, the problem is that people preordered years ago, and now, newer operating systems won't run the games that were preordered. Let's say that XP was required when you ordered the game. Now, you are running Windows 9.0, which will not handle the

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, I know it is quite sad that Mac OS has had many of the features Microsoft is just now getting to in Windows 7 and Windows 8. It goes to show that Microsoft has been caught up in Windows XP far too long, and now Microsoft is far behind the competition in terms of features. They are just

Re: [Audyssey] paying for upgrades - Re: A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Charles Rivard
I hope your decision will satisfy all. I know you'll think about it as best you can, taking everyone's points into consideration. Again, I will most likely support your approach. One thing I hope that people take under consideration: This! will! take! time!, because of the work you're going

Re: [Audyssey] paying for upgrades - Re: A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, Thanks for that thoughtfully worded post, and you are right. It is a catch 22 situation precisely because games like Raceway, for example, were supposed to be released so long ago that XP customers have as much of a legitimate claim as the guy who just purchased a brand new HP laptop

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread James Bartlett
hI l o l cheap? I bought a Android 2 years ago. It cost me $450, and I could never get it to work for me. It was my own fault for not doing the research be for I bought it. It was the most ecspansive paper whait I ever bought. bfn James --

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi John, I wouldn't say that. I can think of a number of programs designed for Windows 9x that won't run on Windows 7. I can think of a few XP programs that had to be upgraded when I got Windows 7 as well. For example, when I got my desktop it came with Nero 6.5 and Power DVD 6 which worked well

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Josh
isn't the latest jellybean 4.3 or whatever it is quite as accessible as the iPhone? I was told skype works now and all kinds of stuff that wasn't accessible is now useable. sent from my vinux4 linux laptop On 09/13/2013 02:23 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: Hi Josh, I don't know if you have ever

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Mike Reiser
Hey Tom, Just wanted to comment. I really hope that at least some games will work with OSX, as I really want to use that as much as I can. I still have to use Windows for office tasks but I'm hopping iWork will solve that. I really feel that the voiceover interaction model where you

Re: [Audyssey] paying for upgrades - Re: A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, Unfortunately, I don't see everyone being satisfied with what we are doing. One problem is, as I have mentioned before, is standard 2d panning like DirectSound has is basically a thing of the past. OpenAL, XAudio2, etc are focused on 3d audio and as a result although one can write a

Re: [Audyssey] paying for upgrades - Re: A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Draconis
Hi Charles and Tom, I think it's a catch 22, especially in the case of the remaining games started by James North, since they were ordered so long ago. You're going to have a sizable portion of customers who, through necessity or what have you, have upgraded from XP, and those who have not.

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread lenron brown
yes android works well I am using android 4.2 and 4.3 is even better android is closing the gap really fast. On 9/13/13, Draconis i...@dracoent.com wrote: No. Quite apart from being a pain in general, the fragmentation of Android makes achieving accessibility, particularly of 3rd-party

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Josh
does android have educational software for kids and some accessible games we can play? I'm considering maybe getting a google android tablet. sent from my vinux4 linux laptop On 09/13/2013 04:26 PM, lenron brown wrote: yes android works well I am using android 4.2 and 4.3 is even better

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Mike, All I will say on our plans to support Mac OSX is we will have to wait and see. We don't own a Mac and therefore we can not develop games and software for an operating system we do not currently own. When and if we get the tools and hardware to make writing Mac games feasible we will

Re: [Audyssey] GMA games DirectSound issues, was A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil, Thanks for the update. David Greenwood had said something similar to me in the past when this subject came up on another list, and I'm glad he has found a way to work with DirectSound and make it work on newer platforms. As for myself USA Games is looking into other alternatives to

[Audyssey] Cannot access the black nova traders site

2013-09-13 Thread David Bartling
Hi Someone on this list _as talking about the moorpg known as black nova traders I started an account but cannot access it from my home network but I could on my school network. Are you not allowed to be able to access it on different ips? If I was banned, why didn't it send me an email or

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Josh, there is a problem with your thinking though. The Windows 8 tablets do not use Intel compatible processors in many cases they have Arm processors. As a result you can not just take a game designed for a PC running an Intel or AMD processor and stick it on a tablet with an Arm processor.

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread James Bartlett
Hello Thomas You can say that again. when I got my Win 7 up and running there was lots that were compatible with XP, but not with Win 7. To tell you the trueth I can't wait till XP is over and done for. Just so programmers can put there hard work on making new producks and not worry about

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Draconis
No. Quite apart from being a pain in general, the fragmentation of Android makes achieving accessibility, particularly of 3rd-party applications, at a level on par with iOS close to impossible. Android has made strides in the right direction, and for that I applaud them, but they are unlikely

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, the reason commercial thinking has played so heavily a part in this debate is I'm looking at this from the long view. That is to say I am looking ahead into the future over the next five years or so, and seeing where we will be by then. Since writing games and other programs is not

Re: [Audyssey] GMA games DirectSound issues, was A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread shaun everiss
thats good to know there is a fix for this. its one of the reasons I don't just go 7 right now to many old titles need old oses. its good to know that people are aware of the issue. I don't mind playing old games on older oses but I would like to take my games where I go and old os and old

Re: [Audyssey] GMA games DirectSound issues, was A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread shaun everiss
I think that we should see more mouse control in game and as well as have a game be able to use keyboard and the mouse be able to use the touchpads as touch and in fact touch jestures will be what will take over a lot of computing sooner or later. At 11:32 PM 9/13/2013, you wrote: I can't

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread shaun everiss
thats good to know charles. but from what I have seen my unit do I think it may be best to dedicate a desktop system to vms and stuff as its just not working out on the laptop vms run quite slow especially when processing updates and such. I had linux actually say i the vertual hard drive was

Re: [Audyssey] Weirdest game ever encountered

2013-09-13 Thread shaun everiss
never been able to run the rsgames client on win7 thank god quentin c does run on win7. At 01:14 AM 9/14/2013, you wrote: Hi folks, some of you may have game clients as I do, particularly the RS games client and the QuentinC playroom client. Well, the QuentinC programmers have added another

Re: [Audyssey] paying for upgrades - Re: A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread shaun everiss
I'd pay for the upgrade, as long as there was a reasonable change. ie improvement and most of them are. however can you blame people for not paying when readers like jfw are the same product but you need to buy them again to use them on another os and its exactly the same. I wouldn't pay full

Re: [Audyssey] OS development outruns game development

2013-09-13 Thread shaun everiss
I don't think it is fair to have ordered anything not got it then spend more cash to get a program you hadn't got in the first place. I'd rather crack it or bale alltogether on it if a dev decided to charge for this. We are still living with the curse of the overdue preorder sigh I'd preorder

Re: [Audyssey] paying for upgrades - Re: A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread shaun everiss
yeah remember the sfml test of mota. ok I was able to handle things but it was a bit hit and miss, stuff was off centre till you got over the other side of the pit but there was no middle pan. At 07:58 AM 9/14/2013, you wrote: Hi Charles, Unfortunately, I don't see everyone being satisfied

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread shaun everiss
Yeah in my heart of hearts I wish that all devs would chuck xp if it was not for all the older programs that needed it I'd have left ages ago. I still like the easy interface but I can sort that easy enough if I want to. At 09:10 AM 9/14/2013, you wrote: Hello Thomas You can say that

Re: [Audyssey] A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread shaun everiss
some have had success with a few mods and such, but apple sertainly have coined it. myself I plan to get an i phone but maybe the cheaper c class when it comes out later this year. you get what you pay for and apple you pay the best for the best, I started in windows but my phone well that

Re: [Audyssey] GMA games DirectSound issues, was A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread shaun everiss
hmmm what formats have you found. I am not so keen with open al/ sfml after the disaster with panning and program crashes we had with some of the mota betas. now if only we could get panning right so it panned ok that would be fine. with most panning as long as it went left and right that was

Re: [Audyssey] GMA games DirectSound issues, was A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, I am not talking about using SFML. I was speaking of using OpenAL directly rather than through a third-party API like SFML::Audio. Although, my research did indicate most of the crashing happened on Windows XP systems, and none on Vista/Windows 7. Meaning the problem was an XP specific

Re: [Audyssey] Weirdest game ever encountered

2013-09-13 Thread lenron brown
rs should work in win 7 I use it in win 8 and play room works on both as well. On 9/13/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: never been able to run the rsgames client on win7 thank god quentin c does run on win7. At 01:14 AM 9/14/2013, you wrote: Hi folks, some of you may have game

Re: [Audyssey] paying for upgrades - Re: A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, Yes, I remember. that is in part why we are doing more private testing with something like OpenAL before officially adopting it upstream. The 3d audio is fairly decent, but we haven't quite worked out a decent pan control as OpenAL simply doesn't have one, and we have to make our own

Re: [Audyssey] Weirdest game ever encountered

2013-09-13 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Same here. I've used the RS Client on Windows 7, Windows 8, and obviously Linux and haven't had a problem with the client. On 9/13/13, lenron brown lenro...@gmail.com wrote: rs should work in win 7 I use it in win 8 and play room works on both as well. --- Gamers mailing list __

Re: [Audyssey] Weirdest game ever encountered

2013-09-13 Thread Ryan Smith
Shaun, Please contact RS Games Support (rsgames AT gmail.com) for assistance with this. Thanks. -Ryan On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:02 PM, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: never been able to run the rsgames client on win7 thank god quentin c does run on win7. At 01:14 AM 9/14/2013,

[Audyssey] interesting game for iDevices

2013-09-13 Thread Charles Rivard
Find this game, entitled codename cygnus, without the quotation marks or punctuation after the quotation marks, in the app store. Note that the app is free, however, you must buy episodes or series through facebook. This app is an adventure in which you choose what to do next when asked. You

Re: [Audyssey] paying for upgrades - Re: A Note to XP users

2013-09-13 Thread Cara Quinn
Hi Thomas, If you switch to head-relative mode you can do a pseudo pan control. barring that, you can use right and lefthand normals of the vector you are facing to create a pan control which constantly updates with the listener. Also, if you send a stereo file to a source then that source

Re: [Audyssey] interesting game for iDevices

2013-09-13 Thread Cara Quinn
Charles, thanks! this sounds fun! have a lovely evening / weekend!… Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Sep 13, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Find this

Re: [Audyssey] interesting game for iDevices

2013-09-13 Thread dark
What I've played of the game is good thus far, sort of audio cyoa. Fortunately the developer is removing the need for a facebook account in order to buy further missions from the next version which should be out next Beware the grue! Dark.week. - Original Message - From: Charles

Re: [Audyssey] interesting game for iDevices

2013-09-13 Thread Charles Rivard
Good thing. Some people aren't interested in having a facebook account. I've just barely started using my facebook account, so don't know much about it yet. But purchasing the first series wasn't difficult to do. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original

Re: [Audyssey] interesting game for iDevices

2013-09-13 Thread dark
Yep, I don't have a facebook account myself (and indeed I don't particularly want one), however when myself and several others on the audiogames.net forum said this to the developer they responded very quickly by saying they were going to remove the requirement. That is another reason I'd