Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-31 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, If it is VS.NET 2002 don't even bother installing it. It is unaccessible, the IDE totally sucks, and it uses a very very old .NET framework that isn't supported any longer. VS.NET 2003 is ok, it works well enough with Jaws 7 and Window Eyes 5, but the only reason I can think of

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-31 Thread shaun everiss
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Oh, I see. Well, I recommend putting on VS.NET Express 2005. VS.NET 2003 was known for huge crashes and VS.NET 2002 was worse. If they are using Super Nova it was no wonder the IDE sucked. Super Nova isn't known for supporting Visual Studio

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-30 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Damien In DirectX there is a function to have it wait for the wave file to finish playing. It looks something like wave1.Play DSBPLAY_DEFAULT Do DoEvents Loop While wave1.GetStatus = DSBSTATUS_PLAYING There is also a function just to check to see if it is still playing so that your game

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-30 Thread x-sight interactive
unload me? that's strange lol, so what's the difference between end and unload me then? regards, damien - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: x-sight interactive Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 9:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-30 Thread Liam Erven
, 2006 4:46 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic unload me? that's strange lol, so what's the difference between end and unload me then? regards, damien - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: x-sight interactive Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, Well, in my experience learning from a person doesn't work as well as reading programming books and working through them on a purely beginner to advance level of learning. Books can fill in so much more than any one person. That includes college profs which only have an hour or so

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Oh, I see. Well, I recommend putting on VS.NET Express 2005. VS.NET 2003 was known for huge crashes and VS.NET 2002 was worse. If they are using Super Nova it was no wonder the IDE sucked. Super Nova isn't known for supporting Visual Studio anything very well. For that you need Jaws 7 or

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damien, Unload Me is used to unload the active form. If the form happens to be the main form the game will close. x-sight interactive wrote: unload me? that's strange lol, so what's the difference between end and unload me then? regards, damien

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-30 Thread x-sight interactive
@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Oh, I see. Well, I recommend putting on VS.NET Express 2005. VS.NET 2003 was known for huge crashes and VS.NET 2002 was worse. If they are using Super Nova it was no wonder the IDE sucked. Super

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, I can say from previous experience paperback programming books do not scan well, and do not make it in any sense through the scanning process. It is better to buy the programming books through a online vender like Safari rather than scan them. Jude DaShiell wrote: If you can get a scanner

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread x-sight interactive
from autoit altogether, don't know yet. regards, damien - Original Message - From: Liam Erven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Quintin: Autoit is an excelent

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread x-sight interactive
, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Hi Liam, No change isn't always bad, and in this case I feel it was about to happen sooner or later. As I understand it from what I have heard from Microsoft on the subject was that many VB programmers in the field bombarded MS

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Hi Liam, No change isn't always bad, and in this case I feel it was about to happen sooner or later. As I understand it from what I have heard from Microsoft on the subject was that many VB programmers in the field bombarded MS with requests to update the language

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damion, Snip There are still basic concepts i don't know how to code in vb, like how to make it wait, how to create arrays, how to use timers, position forms... End Snip When you mean make it wait are you waiting on a certain sound to finish, wait for a Windows message cue, or what exactly

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Damion, Snip i did actually try at one point with msvs.net and the ide was terrible - kept hanging on my system. End Snip Hmmm... Which version of the IDE did you have? Also what versions of Windows are you running, screen reader, and when was the last time your computer has had a good

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread x-sight interactive
: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:07 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Hi Damion, Actually, a Hello World type program can be written in C++ in 6 lines as long as you are writing a text program without all the Windows Win32 junk with it. It would look like this. #include iostream int

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread x-sight interactive
license for it. could've been 2003. regards, damien - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:34 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Hi Damion, Snip i did actually try at one

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread x-sight interactive
- From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 4:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Hi Damion, Snip There are still basic concepts i don't know how to code in vb, like how to make it wait, how to create

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
- Original Message - From: Thomas Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Hi Liam, No change isn't always bad, and in this case I feel it was about to happen sooner or later

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-29 Thread shaun everiss
, damien - Original Message - From: Liam Erven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Quintin: Autoit is an excelent language to get your feet web. However, if you

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Yeah, Jaws 4 definately won't cut it. You should at least have Jaws 6 or 7 for Visual Studio 2005 or Window Eyes 5.0 or better. I hear Window Eyes 6 beta 1 has some improvements with 2005 so it is possible Jaws 8 beta does as well. Jim Kitchen wrote: Hi Thomas, Yeah, not only don't I

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-27 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Ron, Assuming you have the proper training materials you should be able to pick up either C#, (C-Sharp,) or VB.NET rather quickly using the Express compilers from Microsoft. I highly recommend the beginner books like Learning VB.NET, Learning C#.NET, and the In a Nutshell series from

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-26 Thread shaun everiss
--no staring, just caring. - Original Message - From: Jim Kitchen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Liam Erven Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Hi Liam, I'm with you. Visual Basic, DirectX and the sapi5 TTS is what works for me

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-26 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas, Are you sure that one can not program in Visual Basic 2003, 2004, 2005 etc the same way as one does in Visual Basic 6? I mean I have always been told that one can not program in Visual Basic 6 as one did in GW Basic, Quick Basic etc, but it sure works for me. grin BFN Jim I

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-26 Thread Liam Erven
. -Original Message- From: Jim Kitchen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 5:20 AM To: Thomas Ward Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Hi Thomas, Are you sure that one can not program in Visual Basic 2003, 2004, 2005 etc the same way as one does in Visual

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-26 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Liam, I hear you there. I also have the problem with the error Window as well. It is not just related to VB.NET but all the IDEs have that particular problem with screen readers.I find it down right frustrating to say the least! The visual IDES have always done error checking, but in 2005

[Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-25 Thread Robin Kipp
Hello all, I'd like to learn how to write programs and games in VB. I just downloaded Microsoft VisualBasic 2005 Express and I'm just confused because it's so complex. I wanted to use the tutorial that shows you how to create a small browser, but I got stuck because I couldn't find the toolbox.

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Robin, In the future posts like this should probably go over to the agdev-newbies list where we discuss such issues like this more in depth. However, since I am writing this email anyway. I will answer as many questions as I can, and I have a few questions of my own. /Snip I'd like to learn

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-25 Thread Quinten Pendle
] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: ahakimbo Website: www.pendlepro.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:51 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Hi Robin

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-25 Thread Liam Erven
PROTECTED] MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: ahakimbo Website: www.pendlepro.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:51 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic Hi

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-25 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Liam, I'm with you. Visual Basic, DirectX and the sapi5 TTS is what works for me as well. BFN Jim I am using BASIC, because I don't want to be C-sick. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kitchensinc.net (440) 286-6920 Chardon Ohio USA ___ Gamers

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, You can find the agdev-newbies list home page at http://lists.agdev.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/agdev-newbies where you can setup your account info for the list, view archives, and so on. As for AutoIt it's not technically a programming language but a tool kit. Personally, I am not very

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Christian, Like I was saying in the last post VB.NET seams to be less documented in some areas than C-Sharp. Fortunately, the .NET languages are so similar that what you learn in C-Sharp will apply to VB.NET and VB.NET concepts will apply to C-Sharp. The difference is of course the structure

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-25 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim and all, For purposes of this discussion for the newbies I think we should make a destinction between VB, meaning VB 6 and before, and VB.NET meaning 2002, 2003, and 2005. The primary reason for this destinction is that VB 6 and earlier were not primarily concerned with object oriented

Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic

2006-10-25 Thread Liam Erven
] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:14 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Learning VisualBasic me too--but I can't even begin to understand vb2005--maybe it's just that I am using express? All I know is there are too many things on screen at once, and it couldn't upgrade