Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-27 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:06:03AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >From Tim's email: > > > > So, I could imagine gmond and gmetad staying the same and the > > above is one way for Carlo's greaper to work. There would be > > a new web service added to the gmetad server to manage site > > con

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-18 Thread Witham, Timothy D
>> Reading through the backlog, what you guys really want is >> something similar to zeroconf/bonjour -- have any of you >> thought of integrating it with Ganglia? >> >> http://developer.apple.com/opensource/internet/bonjour.html >> >> This is cross-platform, works on Mac OSX, UNIX, Windows. >> >>

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-18 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 09:15:00AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Here is my proposal: > > > - insert a dynamic_configuration step immediately after parsing the > > > text files and before any of the cfg_t structures are examined > > > > how would this work for module configurations wh

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-18 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 02:05:41PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I've been giving this some more thought. There are a > > couple of issues > > > that come to mind: > > > > > > - The default configuration might not always be appropriate - would > > > people welcome a patch that disables

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-18 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 02:14:15PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > fair, and so for the sake of clarity let me explain again > > what are the specification constrains : > > > > * must allow for nodes to specify where the configuration server is > > * must allow for additional configurations t

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-17 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
Daniel, On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 12:13:50PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I don't dispute the validatity of your solutions - I wish I could do > something similar. I don't think anyone is trying to force their solutions on you, but just trying to help you get a solution that will work in yo

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-17 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:15:32AM -0700, Bernard Li wrote: > > Reading through the backlog, what you guys really want is something > similar to zeroconf/bonjour -- have any of you thought of integrating > it with Ganglia? it was implicitly mentioned as part of all other discovery mechanisms prop

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-17 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 08:45:47AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maybe gmond should not know the cluster name at all - maybe gmetad > should have an internal table of cluster names and nodes. gmetad does have such a table in its configuration in the form of datasources which should include at

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-13 Thread Bernard Li
Guys: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:13 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even if some of the configuration is dynamic, libConfuse provides a way > to dump it's data structures to a string for convenient troubleshooting > (see the cfg_print methods). > > I don't dispute the validatity of your solution

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-12 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:24:52AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > if you want to do it inside gmond for whatever reason, then > > you will need to add and extra fork while daemonizing and do > > the work in the parent, but as Timothy explained it could be > > as well done with some scr

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-12 Thread Witham, Timothy D
>still, how does a restart happen or how is new configuration detected by >gmond? There would still have to be something that pokes gmond to tell it >to restart. And if that is the case, then we are back to why not just use >an existing configuration management service. Exactly. Since the propo

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-12 Thread Brad Nicholes
>>> On 8/12/2008 at 7:14 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED] , <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> fair, and so for the sake of clarity let me explain again >> what are the specification constrains : >> >> * must allow for nodes to specify where the configuration server is >> * must allow for addi

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-11 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 08:53:58AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Fetching the configuration file from a web server is quite a valid > > > solution - and as you point out, the file can be cached > > locally. In > > > contrast, the benefit of LDAP is that it can enforce some > > structur

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-08 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 11:53:02AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Configuration management is always a challenge, but lucky for > > us ganglia doesn't have to do any of that because it is a > > cluster monitoring tool that can run without a configuration. First, want to be completely clear

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-08 Thread Witham, Timothy D
>What happens when you have multiple clusters? Each node needs to know >which cluster name and multicast address to use. In a huge >organisation, it is not feasible for every node to join the same >multicast group. In some clusters, not all nodes are on a shared >multicast segment. So the defau

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-08-08 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:30:23AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > From: Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > I've been looking at how we currently deploy Ganglia configuration > > > files in our organisation, and whether the process can

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-07-29 Thread Carlo Marcelo Arenas Belon
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:51:58AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I've been looking at how we currently deploy Ganglia configuration files > in our organisation, and whether the process can be improved. gmond by design is able to work without a configuration for exactly this reason. the def

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-07-29 Thread Jesse Becker
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 11:35, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Jesse Becker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > I've been looking at how we currently deploy Ganglia configuration >> > files in our organisation, and whether the process can be

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-07-29 Thread Kostas Georgiou
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 09:51:58AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been looking at how we currently deploy Ganglia configuration files > in our organisation, and whether the process can be improved. > > Is anyone already working on any aspect of this issue: You should look at one of

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Auto configuration ideas

2008-07-29 Thread Jesse Becker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I've been looking at how we currently deploy Ganglia configuration files > in our organisation, and whether the process can be improved. > - allowing a central configuration server to override some, but not all, > of the values specified in the config file This is