RE: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Jerry Belloit
Scott, I generally agree, but it might be interesting if the only Payment was a charitable donation to his uncle's (dad's?) church. I am not so sure it is a violation if there is not a benefit to an interested party. From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com]

RE: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Randy Lyons
FBI aside, from what I understand, the NCAA forbids even the player's FAMILY from negotiations. If it is determined that his dad DID offer to steer his son to a particular school for a payoff, Cam will be ruled ineligible. Period. Randy From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com

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2010-11-19 Thread Woody
Yep.. thats basically what happened with the Reggie Bush scandal. But some of the so called experts Ive been listening to on the situation think that if Cam had no knowledge.. Cam may be cleared. I think with Reggie Bush... he knew of the situation. Granted.. the question is.. how could Cam NOT

Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Wanda Barry
My question, exactly!! How could he possibly not know what his father was doing when it influenced his decision at to which college to attend/play for??? - Original Message - From: Woody To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:45 AM Subject: Re:

RE: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Charlie
I've been following this as well. There would seemingly need to be some proof of knowledge on Cams part. But I don't know if that is a fact or not. Proving he had knowledge is going to be pretty tough. _ From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

[gatortalk] FW: [2daves] Two Daves Pick The SEC - November 18, 2010

2010-11-19 Thread Randy Lyons
Two Daves Pick The SEC November 18, 2010 Welcome to Two Daves Pick The SEC! Allegedly, there will be some breaking news tonight on ESPN about the Cam Newton situation. There have been more twits sending out tweets than I care to discuss. One thing that is funny, I mean really funny, is this:

RE: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Jay Cicone
http://news.lalate.com/2010/11/19/cam-newton-investigation-cecil-and-cam -hire-same-lawyer/ -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football Champions | 2006 National Basketball Champions 2006 National Football Champions | 2007 National Basketball

RE: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Ken Kirkley
Nope, they don't need to proove Cam had knowledge. Remember, the NCAA is not a court of law, they don't need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt or even to the preponderence of evidence. They can make any decision the infractions committee feels just based on the information in front of them. And

[gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread BertThePiggieMan
Personally, if they find that Cam's dad had solicited payment to play for anyone, they should throw the book at Cam. Otherwise, that's setting a dangerous precedent for people doing things on the player's behalf and allowing the player to simply say I never knew anything about it. Not where they

RE: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Jay Cicone
Yes it is a dangerous path. It really would suck if the player in fact has no knowledge and his own father ruined his career, wouldn't it? -Original Message- From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of BertThePiggieMan Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010

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2010-11-19 Thread Woody
Yup... but its the only way it will (probably) stop it. What has the world come to when the child is responsible for the parents actions. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Jay Cicone jay.cic...@raymondjames.comwrote: Yes it is a dangerous path. It really would suck if the player in fact

Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread lpolhill
So the next time I rob a bank I can give it all to a pastor and be OK? If Doc really wants to discuss or cuss this I'll be lurking on Too Hot. :) Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Jerry Belloit bell...@clarion.edu Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov

Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread lpolhill
As usual, Randoo and I agree. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Randy Lyons gatorspo...@epbfi.com Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:40:05 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Reply-To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS

Re: [gatortalk] AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread lpolhill
Keith Jackson was always great at reading minds: Now what he was thinking on the last play was... Maybe he could help with the investigation. Maybe Doc is right and the parson was just doing good church work. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Woody gatorrr...@gmail.com

[gatortalk] Fw: 2011 Baseball Season Tickets on sale

2010-11-19 Thread lpolhill
This is posted for Randoo who was last seen trying to find the campus. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Gator Ticket Office ticketoff...@gators.uaa.ufl.eduDate: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:07:41 To: lpolh...@bellsouth.net Subject: 2011 Baseball Season Tickets on sale Dear

RE: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Oliver Barry
I find it very difficult to feel sorry for Cam Newton. He knew what was going on. Someone said earlier next he'll be making millions of dollars anyway. And, that's what will happen. I don't feel much sorrow for Auburn either. They have a long history of this kind of activity. They not

[gatortalk] SEC suspends Bruce Pearl 8 games

2010-11-19 Thread Shane Ford
Updated: November 19, 2010, 1:32 PM ET ESPN.com news services       KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive has suspended Tennessee coach Bruce Pearl for the Volunteers' first eight conference games as punishment for violating NCAA rules and misleading investigators.

Re: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread John Vega
On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Woody wrote: What has the world come to when the child is responsible for the parents actions. Hasn't this been the way of the world forever? Ozzy has a song about this. -Zeb -- GATORS: ONE VOICE ON SATURDAY - NO VOICE ON SUNDAY! 1996 National Football

Re: [gatortalk] FW: [2daves] Two Daves Pick The SEC - November 18, 2010

2010-11-19 Thread Helen Huntley
The You Tube Video on Son of a Preacher Man is pretty funny. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Randy Lyons gatorspo...@epbfi.com wrote: Two Daves Pick The SEC November 18, 2010 Welcome to Two Daves Pick The SEC! Allegedly, there will be some breaking news tonight on ESPN about the Cam

Re: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Wanda Barry
What was that you used to say about Pat Dye, Oliver?? :-) - Original Message - From: Oliver Barry To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING I find it very difficult to feel sorry for Cam Newton.

Re: [gatortalk] proof on Cecil Newton

2010-11-19 Thread Wanda Barry
NOW THAT'S FREAKIN FUNNY :-) - Original Message - From: Oliver Barry To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 1:17 PM Subject: [gatortalk] proof on Cecil Newton Here it is, the smoking gun!! Oliver Barry CRS,GRI Real Estate Broker Bob

Re: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Wanda Barry
Sins of the father is passed to the child, or something like that... - Original Message - From: John Vega To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING On Nov 19, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Woody wrote:

Re: [gatortalk] proof on Cecil Newton

2010-11-19 Thread Arthur Polhill
Now that HAS to warm the cockles of one's heart. I feel much better now.  I think I'll have another Butterfinger.  A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: Oliver Barry

Re: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Arthur Polhill
For how many generations must we suffer for great-grandpa, Doc?  A. Leon Polhill, Gator I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know. - Mark Twain From: John Vega zebu...@gate.net To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Sent: Fri,

RE: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Jerry Belloit
Even unto the fourth generation. Jerry From: gatortalk@googlegroups.com [mailto:gatort...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Polhill Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 7:20 PM To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING For how many generations must we

Re: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread lpolhill
Bummer! I never met the man. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Jerry Belloit bell...@clarion.edu Sender: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 20:00:30 To: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Reply-to: gatortalk@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS

Re: [gatortalk] Re: AUBURN IS BURNING

2010-11-19 Thread Cecilia
But, Woody... surely you've heard of the phrase the sins of the fathers shall be visited upon their children. That goes all the way back to Euripides, nearly 500 years BC. Maybe even further if you count the Biblical references in the first few books of the OT. Cee - Original Message