Re: gEDA-user: gschem vs. PCB diode pin numbering

2011-08-27 Thread Dan McMahill
On 8/23/2011 8:47 PM, Matthew Lewis wrote: > I was double checking a pcb layout today and I discovered a rather nasty > gotcha. It seems that gschem and PCB don't agree on which end of a diode > should be pin 1. Gschem views pin 1 as the anode and PCB considers pin 1 > to be the cathode. It doesn't

Re: gEDA-user: Power relay question

2011-07-31 Thread Dan McMahill
On 7/28/2011 5:52 PM, Rob Butts wrote: >This is a dumb question but I'm having a mental block. > > > >I have a 12 volt dc motor that I want to run from the push of >a momentary pushbutton which will run until a limit switch gets hit. >Digikey has a power latching relay PB1088-ND

Re: gEDA-user: web version of gschem/pcb

2011-06-23 Thread Dan McMahill
On 6/23/2011 12:58 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > Dan McMahill wrote: > >>> * back annotation from pcb to gschem >> >> what specific things would you like to back annotate? > > For debugging it would be nice to have the refdeses of components > geometrically

Re: gEDA-user: web version of gschem/pcb

2011-06-23 Thread Dan McMahill
On 6/20/2011 6:57 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > * back annotation from pcb to gschem what specific things would you like to back annotate? ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://www.seul.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Blog post: Porting gEDA to Guile 2.0, and future plans

2011-06-05 Thread Dan McMahill
On 6/5/2011 7:55 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Hi all, > > I just published a blog post in which I discuss porting to Guile 2, > and ask for suggestions about what part of gEDA I should hack on > next. It includes a description of the various work-in-progress > branches that I've currently got on t

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA with Guile 2.0

2011-06-05 Thread Dan McMahill
On 6/3/2011 6:04 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've just checked in some changes that enable gEDA to compile and run > with Guile 2.0. Please report any issues. Currently, the only known > problem is that the `drc2' gnetlist backend is broken. Thanks for doing this! -Dan

Re: gEDA-user: RMS Waveform of a signal

2010-06-18 Thread Dan McMahill
On 6/16/2010 10:43 AM, Rubén Gómez Antolí wrote: Hello Armin: Thanks for your response. El 16/06/10 15:16, Armin Faltl escribió: To the best of my knowledge, the RMS-value (root mean square) is a constant, i.e. the waveform would be a straight horizontal line. The definition of the value comes

Re: gEDA-user: gsch2pcb (gnetlist) generates corrupted pcb output

2010-06-10 Thread Dan McMahill
On 6/10/2010 6:40 PM, Matthew Lai wrote: That is interesting. The only possibility I can think of is that my system is 64-bit. not that I have been active lately, but essentially all of my geda work has been on a 64-bit system for nearly a decade so if nothing else geda gets compiled fairly

Re: gEDA-user: Fab, Pick and Place, Stencil

2010-05-01 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: Is there a theta? I think so, but it's unreliable because we just guess. The assembly house will most likely massage the data anyway. I'd argue that it is fairly reliable as long as components are on 0, 90, 180, 270 orientations. If they are not, then you lose for sure.

Re: gEDA-user: Drill file zero suppression

2010-04-26 Thread Dan McMahill
Ethan Swint wrote: On 04/26/2010 01:58 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: What generated those files? PCB uses *.cnc for drill files... > > It's original format is PADs, I believe. > be aware that there are various combinations of # of significant digits and leading/trailing zero suppression which can

Re: gEDA-user: Compiling PCB 20001103 -> missing libraries

2010-03-25 Thread Dan McMahill
my...@iae.nl wrote: Hello All, I'm trying to compile and install PCB (version 20091103) and I have an question. I have created two (/home/me/tools/bin, /home/me/tools/share) directories. you shouldn't have to create those by hand. the install should do it. Then I use: ./configure --prefix=

Re: gEDA-user: ten pages of command line options

2010-03-23 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: I think there needs to be a way to specify the sort key and section heading separately, as "bom-Options" is not a good text for a section heading. Perhaps a mapping between sort key and section heading could be found once, rather than have to include both for every option? t

Re: gEDA-user: Toporouter update?

2010-03-19 Thread Dan McMahill
Anthony Blake wrote: John Griessen wrote: kai-martin knaak wrote: Anthony Blake wrote: greenlight <--- I'd strongly suggest to invent a new word rather than take an existing buzzword. The term "greenlight" currently yields 1.5 Mio google hits. A greenlight router wou

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

2010-03-16 Thread Dan McMahill
kai-martin knaak wrote: Dan McMahill wrote: So I'd say that especially in the opensource area, a good waveform viewer is not reinventing the wheel. It is time to make a round one instead of the existing square ones! IMHO, you underestimate the effort to get were grace and gnuplot al

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

2010-03-16 Thread Dan McMahill
kai-martin knaak wrote: [ctrl + ] for zoom, [ctrl - ] for unzoom. panning at a fixed zoom, a) left mouse butten click'n drag in both directions b) scrollwheel vertical, ctrl+scrollwheel horizontal c) drag dedicated scrollbars putting cursors on waveforms that will lock onto the actual da

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

2010-03-15 Thread Dan McMahill
Dave McGuire wrote: On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:32 AM, Dan McMahill wrote: With the help of Ivan I'm writing a viewer, oscopy (http://repo.or.cz/w/oscopy.git) based draft #4 of this page: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:data_plotting_improvements IMHO, there are already very mature open source

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

2010-03-15 Thread Dan McMahill
Geoff Swan wrote: I've seen commercial tools that have some predefined grids like rectangular, polar, smith but so far none have taken it to the next level of letting you add custom ones or the custom readout. Just in case you missed it - qucs has a number of plotting outputs including a Smith

Re: gEDA-user: On integrating simulator in gschem

2010-03-14 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:34:17 +0100, Arnaud Gardelein wrote: With the help of Ivan I'm writing a viewer, oscopy (http://repo.or.cz/w/oscopy.git) based draft #4 of this page: http://geda.seul.org/wiki/geda:data_plotting_improvements IMHO, there are already very mature op

Re: gEDA-user: getting used to git (almost trivial pcb patch)

2010-03-13 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: I can't see why it complains, but... maybe cr/lf or whitespace differences, which mail might have munged? the win32/Readme.txt file certainly is (and needs to remain) a DOS style file. It's a bit of a pain with non-DOS aware vi's but this file's purpose in life is to show

Re: gEDA-user: pcb option --layer-stack

2010-03-13 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: You want the doc/extract-docs script, not gather-actions. oh yeah. I shouldn't reply to the list past midnight ;) Actually... do we even use gather-actions anymore or was that a pre-HID split deal? I can't seem to see where it is ever used. -Dan

Re: gEDA-user: pcb option --layer-stack

2010-03-12 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: PS: There is no description whatsoever on layer stacks in the pcb manual. The woefully obsolete manual? Sure. Is there any other? ;-) If this is again a case of lack of developer cycles, how about letting trusted non-developers improve the manual? Go ahead. Ok, I

Re: gEDA-user: Is there any way to disable "mouse over" commands in pcb?

2010-03-12 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:56:19 -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: All key bindings are user-controllable via the ~/.pcb/pcb-menu.res (lesstif) or ~/.pcb/gpcb-menu.res files. cite pcb/src/gpcb-menu.res : / # NOTE: I have not figured out what to do with this # s

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-09 Thread Dan McMahill
Bob Paddock wrote: fwiw, there is a pcb-bugs mailing list with only me as the subscriber. Of course in all fairness, that list didn't exist yesterday ;) That list will get all new bug reports and updates to existing reports. Don't see it listed at any of these seemingly likely places: http://

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-09 Thread Dan McMahill
Duncan Drennan wrote: If the senior developers are fed projects and requirements, suitably discussed and planned, they'd be more likely to work on them. We currently work on our own desires because we know what we want, to solve our problems. That sounds nice, but the reality is quite differen

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-09 Thread Dan McMahill
Peter Clifton wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 19:20 +, Gareth Edwards wrote: If we want to trial this model, I'm personally happy to become one of the "second-class developers" as Kai-Martin put it - to do some patch triage for gEDA tools in general, not just pcb. Sure! These things typical

Re: gEDA-user: rant: pcb print from command line

2010-03-09 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: So what can we do? How can we get people with *less* experience more involved in solving this problem? Grow them? That is, introduce a group of second class developers. I don't think, this will work. The real work is to decide whether or not a patch actually improves the co

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-03-09 Thread Dan McMahill
pstoedit converts postscript to various formats. So I suppose you could try pcb export to postscript and then pstoedit to produce dxf. That said, there are always issues with file conversions and I suspect you're much better off letting pcb directly produce dxf. But it may just work. Winde

Re: gEDA-user: compile of pcb fails due to missing epsf.tex

2010-03-08 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Just did a fresh download of pcb from git. "autogen.sh", "configure" and "make" all ran fine. However, "make install" failed due to a missing epsf.tex. I had to install the package texlive-generic-recommended to get this file. --> The configure script should check for t

Re: gEDA-user: compile of pcb fails due to missing epsf.tex

2010-03-08 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: Just did a fresh download of pcb from git. "autogen.sh", "configure" and "make" all ran fine. However, "make install" failed due to a missing epsf.tex. I had to install the package texlive-generic-recommended to get this file. --> The configure script should check for t

Re: gEDA-user: Hidden releases?

2010-03-04 Thread Dan McMahill
Stefan Salewski wrote: http://www.gpleda.org/ Latest Releases/News gerbv 2.4.0 released on 20100222 gtkwave 3.3.3 released on 20100218 Should these two go into distributions? I think they are not mentioned in the mailing lists? gerbv-2.4.0 should certainly go into distributions. I have no

Re: gEDA-user: right-mouse-click rotate

2010-02-26 Thread Dan McMahill
Alberto Maccioni wrote: There are 2 files in the src directory: pcb-menu.res and gpcb-menu.res; I think one is for gtk, the other for lesstif. But does this mean that you have to recompile to make changes to the key bindings? no. See the manual. Perhaps the key-binding has come from somewhe

Re: gEDA-user: Making circles in PCB

2010-02-26 Thread Dan McMahill
timecop wrote: It can't be that simple or else someone would have done it alreay. you'd be surprised at the number of little things that actually are easy. Not all to be sure, but a lot are. On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:12 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: I think the first thing before this discussio

Re: gEDA-user: Open Source mechanical CAD on the horizon

2010-02-25 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: I just got aware of the open source mechanical CAD project freecad. It hit the debian repository a month ago. Although it is still lacking important features, much of the basic infrastructure is already up and running. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeCAD_(Juergen_Rieg

Re: gEDA-user: any last minute advice prior to sending out for PCB fab

2010-02-24 Thread Dan McMahill
gene glick wrote: After a very long time, I am just about ready to send out 3 different boards for fab. I would appreciate any advice to improve my chances of success. So far here's what has been done: 1. Run DRC on all PCBs with no issues.. 2. Checked schematics. 3. Checked schematic matche

Re: gEDA-user: PCB GIT: missing members in SettingType

2010-02-16 Thread Dan McMahill
Peter Clifton wrote: On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 11:02 +, Ineiev wrote: Hello; It looks like some parts of recent changes were not actually pushed: diff --git a/src/global.h b/src/global.h index 1462e50..3794448 100644 --- a/src/global.h +++ b/src/global.h @@ -635,6 +635,8 @@ typedef struct

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Latex

2010-02-10 Thread Dan McMahill
Peter Clifton wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 06:17 -0500, gene glick wrote: The LyX route is working for now - but am already finding reasons to add LaTeX commands into the source file. Headers with images are a drag - still fighting that one. Time to get a good book :D If you mean something

Re: gEDA-user: OT: Latex

2010-02-09 Thread Dan McMahill
gene glick wrote: Do you all use Latex for editing docs, or maybe open office or other? I'm getting fed up with the open office bugs and starting to think that Latex is a better alternative. Busy compiling Lyx as we speak. Just curious if it works out well- I switched to LaTeX 15 years ag

Re: gEDA-user: Pick-And-Place Extract

2010-01-26 Thread Dan McMahill
Dan McMahill wrote: Tony Radice wrote: Do you have any feel for how widely used IPC-D-356 is? I think I was asking about how useful this would be to folks several years ago and no one seemed interested. Perhaps this has changed now? Dan - I'm not sure how widely this is used, it ca

Re: gEDA-user: Pick-and-Place Data

2010-01-25 Thread Dan McMahill
Tony Radice wrote: Larry - Thanks for the heads up on the xy data - from what I am getting from my CM this is not the data he needs: He needs a formatted X Y Data set for the pick and place machines. This is why I am developing the script to be able to use the formatted output. But you t

Re: gEDA-user: Pick-And-Place Extract

2010-01-25 Thread Dan McMahill
Tony Radice wrote: As I am also developing a Perl script to write an IPC-D-356 data file It would be very helpful of someone could provide the following four bits of information: 1) In a Via definition, the first three fields are X, Y and holesize - I get it. But Could I get a definition of

Re: gEDA-user: log scale DC sweeps in ngspice

2010-01-14 Thread Dan McMahill
asom...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to do DC parameter sweeps in ngspice. I'd really like to do them in log scale, but it seems that ngspice only supports linear scale for DC sweeps. Over the input range I'm simulating, a linear sweep takes far too long. So I'm looking for a workaround. I tho

Re: gEDA-user: File Symbol Creation for an LQFP EP

2009-12-23 Thread Dan McMahill
resea...@ottomaneng.com wrote: > Hello, > > I am rolling my own symbols for my components. Namely an analog devices > sharc ADSP-21369 and altera FPGA. The footprint attribute for the chip > is LQFP208 1102. However, the chip has an exposed pad in the bottom. > According to the list > > http://ww

Re: gEDA-user: Problems with MOSFET symbols in PCB

2009-12-17 Thread Dan McMahill
phil wrote: > I just use symbols for transistors and for fets that have the pinout in > the name: > > fet-pmos-3-gds.sym > pnp-2-cbe.sym > > The name of the symbol has the pins in order 1-3, so the p-ch mosfet is > gate = , drain = 2, source =3 ... like an insulated to-220 mosfet. > > This pro

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv 2.3 -- make test or such

2009-12-07 Thread Dan McMahill
Stefan Salewski wrote: > For gerbv 2.3 some automated tests seems to exist -- I have to admit > that I never care about such stuff... > > But we got a bug report from our Gentoo QA team: > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294911 > > http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=211363&action=

Re: gEDA-user: More strange ideas: Start PCB layout from symbols view

2009-12-05 Thread Dan McMahill
John Doty wrote: > Now, gEDA's design isn't nearly as clean as TeX plus LaTeX plus all > the other stuff. Still, it's *much* better the competition, and can > be improved. Unfortunately, there's a lot of pressure to make it > dirtier. > With all due respect, have you actually used any of th

Re: gEDA-user: More strange ideas: Start PCB layout from symbols view

2009-11-25 Thread Dan McMahill
Stefan Salewski wrote: > Currently we start new layouts in PCB with a bunch of footprints auto > dispersed. > > As Kai-Martin said recently, position of symbols in schematics is > closely related to position on PCB. > > May it make sense to start a new PCB layout direct from a view with > symbols

Re: gEDA-user: pcb20091103, --enable-m4lib-png, but no png pictures

2009-11-23 Thread Dan McMahill
Stefan Salewski wrote: > Stefan Salewski wrote: >> Can you please check if there is an effect of option -enable-m4lib-png >> for latest pcb20091103 snapshot. >> >> On AMD64 I have not manage to get the png pictures of footprints. Of >> course I do not need or want them, but we have to decide if we

Re: gEDA-user: How to deal with single/dual parts?

2009-11-20 Thread Dan McMahill
Peter TB Brett wrote: > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:51:49 -0700, John Doty wrote: >> The bottom line question for the core developers is: >> >> What prevents us from writing a file of Guile functions and adding a >> line to gafrc to load it and get this functionality? > > The gschem/libgeda Scheme A

Re: gEDA-user: How to deal with single/dual parts?

2009-11-20 Thread Dan McMahill
Michael Sokolov wrote: > Bill Gatliff wrote: > >> Now I'm beginning to see the problems with slotting and symbols the way >> we're doing them now: they unnecessarily tie the concept of a symbol to >> the concept of a component, because the pin numbers that we currently >> record in our symbols ar

Re: gEDA-user: PCB, --enable-m4lib-png needs gdlib with png support?

2009-11-17 Thread Dan McMahill
Stefan Salewski wrote: > Hello, > > is gdlib with png support needed when we install PCB 20091103 with > configure option -enable-m4lib-png? > yes. There should be a helpful error message to that effect if you try to use that option and a png-capable gdlib is not found. -Dan __

Re: gEDA-user: Confusing new 1.6 behavior

2009-11-16 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:20:01 -0700, John Doty wrote: > >> Yet another example of the speed of gEDA bug fixes. > > Unfortunately, there is a number of not so speedy fixes, too. > > >> The big $$ packages sure can't compete here! > > Does 1500 USD/Seat count as big $$?

Re: gEDA-user: symbol files

2009-11-13 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:36:54 +, Kelvin Gardiner wrote: > >> I'm trying to create some new AVR symbols. Can the footprint section of >> a symbol file have more than one footprint listed. > > Unfortunately not. > This is one of my favorite feature requests: Let the us

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA and pcb status and minigration from Eagle

2009-11-12 Thread Dan McMahill
Stefan Salewski wrote: > KiCAD: I was asked about it some days ago, here it is > >> I know KiCAD, but I have never used it myself yet. >> When I started with free EDA tools 4 years ago gEDA was looking more >> "professional", so I chose gEDA/PCB. But KiCad and gEDA have make >> progress since that

Re: gEDA-user: symbol files

2009-11-12 Thread Dan McMahill
Bill Gatliff wrote: > Kelvin Gardiner wrote: >> Try to add something into current format. > > Why not a new symbol attribute containing a comma-separated list of > alternate symbol files for the current symbol? If that attribute isn't > found, then the GUI continues to work like it does today; if

Re: gEDA-user: opamp slew rate limiting

2009-11-09 Thread Dan McMahill
carzr...@optonline.net wrote: > I have a problem with an opamp at work and was hoping someone may have some > insight. > I've gone as far as removing all loads from the opa2132, and it doesn't > change the slew rate. The data sheet has a drawing with 'large signal step > response', and it show

Re: gEDA-user: PCB latest no longer accurate? - git vs cvs

2009-10-27 Thread Dan McMahill
KURT PETERS wrote: >> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:04:29 -0600 >> From: KURT PETERS >> Subject: gEDA-user: PCB latest no longer accurate? - git vs cvs >> To: >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> I remember earlier on the mail

Re: gEDA-user: PCB, I lost my layer colors

2009-10-21 Thread Dan McMahill
Ineiev wrote: > On 10/19/09, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:13:40 +0100, Peter Clifton wrote: >>> Why do we need a tick box to preserve layer attributes? IMO, layer >>> attributes should _always_ be preserved. >> +1 >> (unless layers attributes have to be skipped for backward co

Re: gEDA-user: Eliminate separate Vcc planes?

2009-10-20 Thread Dan McMahill
Darrell Harmon wrote: > I like to use 3 terminal feedthrough capacitors when I am concerned > about frequencies > 1 GHz getting on the power supply. yes. Those are your friends! I like to stick those in the mouse hole on a shield can. -Dan ___

Re: gEDA-user: Eliminate separate Vcc planes?

2009-10-19 Thread Dan McMahill
Larry Doolittle wrote: >> Good RF decoupling standard practice is to use a smaller cap >> (e.g. 20pF in parallel with some larger ones such as 1000pF >> _and_ 0.1uF or larger as needed) to get a good broad band >> capacitive reactance across frequency). > > I have yet to see a 20pF or 1000pF cap

Re: gEDA-user: rotate smd parts 0603

2009-10-12 Thread Dan McMahill
Klaus Rudolph wrote: > Hi all, > > I try to rotate some smd parts (0603) on the layout,m but only the silk > layer rotates. If I switch of the silk layer, I could not rotate > anything. Rotating SO14 is working. Sorry, I am to silly to rotate a > simple smd device :-) > > Any trick? 1) is th

Re: gEDA-user: gaf install ldconfig needs ldconfig

2009-10-11 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > I just did a fresh recompile of gaf from git. > > After the usual > autogen.sh; configure; make; make install > a call of ldconfig was necessary. This should be noted in the README. if it is noted, it should be also noted that ldconfig is system specific. _

Re: gEDA-user: Blind and buried vias?

2009-09-28 Thread Dan McMahill
Can we put an end to this thread? How about this. PCB is part of gEDA. I'm a developer for both. It is not a part of gaf (gschem and friends) but it is the most popular reason for using gaf. You can argue all you want about exactly how much a part of gEDA PCB is, but it is a part. Some

Re: gEDA-user: PCB Renumber Was/Is Once Again

2009-09-24 Thread Dan McMahill
Mike Hansen wrote: >I brought up this topic a couple of years ago and left it for dead at >the time but now have the question again: > >Is there a script that can be performed on a PCB design that will >renumber the components on the board in some spatial order(say >starting at

Re: gEDA-user: Turning off gerber Poly Fill for square pads

2009-08-20 Thread Dan McMahill
Thomas Olson wrote: > On Thursday 20 August 2009 02:51:41 pm DJ Delorie wrote: >>> The issue is that isolations programs like CopperCAM and GCAM >>> ignore the G36 G37 commands and thus draw the pad as 4 traces >>> in a sqaure shape and then isolating the inside of the pad because >>> it thinks the

Re: gEDA-user: PANGO FONTS MERGED: Call for testing

2009-08-17 Thread Dan McMahill
Peter Clifton wrote: > Hi guys, > > I just merged the pango font stuff to git HEAD. > > This is a call for testing, to note any unexpected / undesirable > behaviours which this might have introduced. I'm too dazzled by the beautiful text rendering to do any work and really try it out. In all s

Re: gEDA-user: feature propriety. was Re: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-12 Thread Dan McMahill
Jason wrote: > DJ Delorie wrote: >>> Should I run gimp to look at the png's with each footprint? ;-) >> Footprints aren't pngs. I use pcb to look at footprints. >> > > [ja...@haven] $ ls /usr/share/pcb/pcblib-newlib/geda/ > 01005.fp HEADER40_1.fpQFP120_28.png SOJ28_450.png > 01005

Re: gEDA-user: merge multi symbol components

2009-08-12 Thread Dan McMahill
Steven Michalske wrote: > A makefile include that included common rules would go a long way with > making makefiles easier. > > include /usr/share/gEDA/gEDA.mk I've toyed with this idea. See latex-mk.sf.net. While not all encompassing, it has proven to be extremely useful to me. I don't eve

Re: gEDA-user: Progress with unified build

2009-08-08 Thread Dan McMahill
Jason wrote: > Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> I use my own symbols only, anyway. >> > > Having just made my first symbol for my first project (pic10f202), I > have to ask, why? Does this include all the way down to rolling your > own resistors? Is it for legal (IP) reasons, or technical (prefer > e

Re: gEDA-user: build-system branch merged

2009-08-07 Thread Dan McMahill
Peter TB Brett wrote: > Hi everybody, > > The build-system branch has now been merged. Please report any problems to > the usual places. wow. Looks *much* nicer. One thing I found is that the guile detection needs to fall back to guile-config. pkg-config support first appeared in guile-1.8

Re: gEDA-user: Progress with unified build

2009-08-07 Thread Dan McMahill
Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 23:09 +0100, Peter TB Brett wrote: >> Hi everybody, >> >> As some of you are aware, one of the blocking items [1] for gEDA/gaf >> 1.5.3 (and eventually 1.6.0) is a unified build system, with the whole >> of the suite distributed in a single tarball. T

Re: gEDA-user: Spice Example RF_Amp

2009-08-06 Thread Dan McMahill
Thomas D. Dean wrote: > I downloaded geda-examples-1.4.3.tar.gz, containing the RF_Amp example. > > I built ngspice 19 from sources without error. > > I get a max data size warning on any simulation, but, see no strange > actions when simulating other circuits. I tried a dozen emitter > follower

Re: gEDA-user: B9A pin base

2009-08-03 Thread Dan McMahill
Goran Mekic' wrote: > Does anyone has B9A pin base (12AX7 tube, for example) for pcb? I've > searched everything that came to my mind, but found nothing. How to > put tube on a PCB (software, not the real board), anyway? Thanx! > > I'd suggest you give the footprint a name which is based on

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-02 Thread Dan McMahill
Bill Gatliff wrote: > John Doty wrote: >> 1. pcb is not the only layout tool gEDA supports. >> > > Can you suggest some others? > there are a huge number of gnetlist backends. some for layout, some for simulation, some for information. But one example is PADS. At one time (perhaps still) a

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-02 Thread Dan McMahill
Jason Childs wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:42 AM, John Doty wrote: >> We're not a programming team implementing what Marketing wants. We're >> a bunch of computer-savvy users implementing what we intend to use. >> That's our strength. That's why gEDA is different. That's why gEDA is >> a sharp

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-02 Thread Dan McMahill
Jason Childs wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:42 AM, John Doty wrote: >> We're not a programming team implementing what Marketing wants. We're >> a bunch of computer-savvy users implementing what we intend to use. >> That's our strength. That's why gEDA is different. That's why gEDA is >> a sharp

Re: gEDA-user: gEDA just hit SlashDotOrg

2009-08-02 Thread Dan McMahill
Bob Paddock wrote: > http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/01/2114210/Cheap-Cross-Platform-Electronic-Circuit-Simulation-Software?from=rss > > "Cheap, Cross-Platform Electronic Circuit Simulation Software? > > dv82 writes "I teach circuits and electronics at the undergraduate > level, and have bee

Re: gEDA-user: Yet another netlister

2009-07-31 Thread Dan McMahill
A.Burinskiy wrote: > Dear gEDA community members, > > I created yet another netlister for gschem. Netlister supports flattened > or hierarchical netlist, handles slotting and global net names. Will be > glad to hear any feedback. The source located in: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/ynetlist/

Re: gEDA-user: PNG output broken in pcb from git.gpleda.org/pcb.git

2009-07-30 Thread Dan McMahill
Dan McMahill wrote: > Uwe Hermann wrote: >> gd warning: one parameter to a memory allocation multiplication is negative >> or zero, failing operation gracefully >> use_gc(): gdImageCreate(0, 0) returned NULL. Aborting export. >> gd warning: one parameter to a memory a

Re: gEDA-user: PNG output broken in pcb from git.gpleda.org/pcb.git

2009-07-30 Thread Dan McMahill
Uwe Hermann wrote: > gd warning: one parameter to a memory allocation multiplication is negative > or zero, failing operation gracefully > use_gc(): gdImageCreate(0, 0) returned NULL. Aborting export. > gd warning: one parameter to a memory allocation multiplication is negative > or zero, faili

Re: gEDA-user: PNG output broken in pcb from git.gpleda.org/pcb.git

2009-07-29 Thread Dan McMahill
Uwe Hermann wrote: > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 04:50:51AM +, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: >> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:29:45 -0400, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >>> How big is your board? >> 42 x 42 mm >> pictures of the layout are in my blog: http://lilalaser.de/blog/?p=94 >> >> I also get segfaults with this

Re: gEDA-user: disperse all elements and locked objects

2009-07-26 Thread Dan McMahill
Levente Kovacs wrote: > Hi, > > > It would be nice if the "Disperse All Elements" function in PCB was working > only on non locked element. I'd call that a bug. I just pushed a fix. -Dan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user@moria.seul.org http://w

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv-2.3.0 released

2009-07-14 Thread Dan McMahill
John Luciani wrote: >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Dan McMahill <[1]...@mcmahill.net> >wrote: > > John Luciani wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Dan McMahill > <[1][2]...@mcmahill.net> > >>wrote: >&

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv-2.3.0 released

2009-07-14 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: >> I guess I'd have to do some reading of the code to see exactly what >> photo-mode is doing though. > > It's pretty straight forward. It renders each layer into a separate > pbm, then composites them into a single ppm. The compositing loop is > around line 688 in hid/png/png.

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv-2.3.0 released

2009-07-14 Thread Dan McMahill
John Luciani wrote: >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Dan McMahill <[1]...@mcmahill.net> >wrote: > >Mark Rages wrote: >> What is the likelihood of moving --photo-mode from pcb to gerbv >where >> it belongs? > > don't know a

Re: gEDA-user: gerbv-2.3.0 released

2009-07-13 Thread Dan McMahill
Mark Rages wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Dan McMahill wrote: >> A new version of gerbv has been released. >> - gerbv: Make the svg/pdf/ps export use a 1:1 scale instead of >> scaling to fit the page. > > ^^ I used this feature last we

gEDA-user: gerbv-2.3.0 released

2009-07-11 Thread Dan McMahill
A new version of gerbv has been released. Thanks to everyone who provided testing and feedback on the last release and to Julian Lamb who fixed many bugs and made several improvements. Gerbv is *the* open source RS-274X (a.k.a. Gerber) and NC drill (a.k.a. Excellon) file viewer. Gerbv is a cr

Re: gEDA-user: gschem on Cygwin and WinXP crashing

2009-07-10 Thread Dan McMahill
gene glick wrote: > Jack Dodds wrote: >> I recently compiled and installed gschem under Cygwin on my WinXP computer. > You might try out, Sun Virtual Box, as an alternative to cygwin. It's > been discussed here before. You wind up installing linux (your choice > of distribution) into a virtual

Re: gEDA-user: More robust support of multi-part symbols.

2009-07-09 Thread Dan McMahill
John Griessen wrote: > Ben Jackson wrote: > I'd love to know how >> the big boys handle it. Obviously you can't draw wires in gschem and >> then swap pins in pcb and expect the wires to be asthetically re-drawn >> in gschem. So do you only do it with busrippers and netname attributes? >> > > N

Re: gEDA-user: Error building PCB from CVS

2009-07-02 Thread Dan McMahill
Kai-Martin Knaak wrote: > On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:42:31 -0700, Eric Brombaugh wrote: > >> Probably a dumb question: I'm building PCB from CVS on Fedora 9, > > Just in case you don't already know: pcb recently switched to git. There > is still a cvs mirror, though. See http://pcb.gpleda.org/obtain

Re: gEDA-user: spNet v0.9.2 released

2009-06-30 Thread Dan McMahill
Anthony Shanks wrote: > I'm not going to go back and forth anymore about the topic because I'm > not sure anybody is benefiting from it but I'll say this: > > I didn't mean to offend or insult anybodys work. If I came across as > such I apologize. I *personally* felt gnetlist itself (not the whole

gEDA-user: deprecating gschem2pcb and PCBboard backend

2009-06-30 Thread Dan McMahill
Anyone have any objections to deprecating the gschem2pcb script and the PCBboard gnetlist backend that is used by that script? As far as I know nobody uses either of those anymore. Note that I'm talking about "gschem2pcb" and *not* "gsch2pcb", the latter being what probably everyone uses. Why

Re: gEDA-user: RFC: Towards a better symbol/package pin-mapping strategy

2009-06-28 Thread Dan McMahill
Bill Gatliff wrote: > At the risk of going OT, I'll add that as I get better at following the > above strategy--- which is particularly helpful with more complex parts > like microcontrollers--- I get really frustrated at gschem's strong > association between pin numbers on the symbol, and pin numb

gEDA-user: test suite versus fab drawing

2009-06-24 Thread Dan McMahill
I've added the start of a test suite for pcb. It checks the export HID's. I haven't come up with good ideas for checking other aspects yet. One trick is how to compare a generated output file to a stored reference one. For example, the bill of materials and x-y (centroid) files contain the n

Re: gEDA-user: autorouter fixes and enhancements (Harry Eaton)

2009-06-22 Thread Dan McMahill
KURT PETERS wrote: >Are these instructions getting uploaded to the wiki? >Kurt > dont' know about the wiki, but I added a chapter to the manual on using the autorouter that is based on harry's email. -Dan ___ geda-user mailing list geda-user

Re: gEDA-user: Looking for PCB fab recommendations

2009-06-19 Thread Dan McMahill
Ineiev wrote: > On 6/19/09, Larry Doolittle wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 02:52:10AM +, Michael Sokolov wrote: >>> * Both plated and unplated drill. Some parts have plastic mounting >>> elements and I want unplated holes for those. >> Get all your holes plated and drill out your mounting

Re: gEDA-user: Investigating gEDA for commercial use

2009-06-17 Thread Dan McMahill
Chris Smith wrote: > Duncan Drennan wrote: >>> 1. a maintained Windows binary installer; and >> Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a fee? e.g. build a >> windows snapshot of gschem, PCB, gerbv (and whatever else) once a >> month for a fixed fee. If there is someone, roughly what would th

Re: gEDA-user: Investigating gEDA for commercial use

2009-06-15 Thread Dan McMahill
Chris Smith wrote: > Thanks to all who responded, on- and off-list. My boss took a good look > at gEDA over the weekend and, while he's very impressed with the tools, > he believes CadStar or Altium are a better fit for us at this point. > Obviously I'm disappointed, but at least I tried. :) > >

Re: gEDA-user: resize gschem symbol

2009-06-10 Thread Dan McMahill
Mark Rages wrote: > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote: >> On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 17:47 -0500, Mark Rages wrote: >>> Before I write a script to do it: is there an easy or gui way to scale >>> / resize a gschem symbol? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Mark >>> markra...@gmail >> Resizing symbo

Re: gEDA-user: gschem's new pretty menus

2009-06-08 Thread Dan McMahill
Dan McMahill wrote: > Bill Gatliff wrote: >> Peter Clifton wrote: >>> You could try it if you wanted (be a beta-tester for the various changes >>> I've made to the code today), the repository is here: >>> >> Ok, cloning it now. But if something

Re: gEDA-user: PCB patches

2009-06-08 Thread Dan McMahill
DJ Delorie wrote: >> With patches fixed to master at c85fd7cfa63f6a89cb8b9a03dd0002ffdb613729 >> >> Tested with GTK and lesstif window managers under OSX, I'll leave it >> to the integrator for Linux/Windows testing. >> >> patch 2 depends on patch 1 still separate because others may not want >> t

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