Re: Use of Incubating Project Names without mentioning Incubator?

2006-07-13 Thread sophitia que
Yes, any project that is part of the Incubator needs to refer to the Apache Incubator in the first mention of the project in a contiguous body of work. (e.g. one document, one web page, one article). Hopefully, our newly devised policies and procedures will make this clearer to all

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier?

2006-07-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/12/06, Niclas Hedhman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can't devote the required effort, tell the others and 'resign'. The One thing our members are *very* *very* good at is overcommiting themselves. So, no, seeing a mentor resign due to not being able to devote the required effort is

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-13 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 7/12/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, yes, we've been talking for a while about splitting it out. Efforts started up recently to put a proposal before the Board. I look forward to seeing that proposal then. =) -- justin

[VOTE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-13 Thread Jason van Zyl
Hi, There has been plenty of discussion around the CeltiXfire proposal, we feel that all the issues forwarded have been addressed, and we would now like to officially propose CeltiXfire to the Incubator for consideration. The proposal can be found in the Incubator wiki here:

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Re: [VOTE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-13 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
I'd like to vote +1 (non-binding) Regards, Matthias On 7/12/06, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There has been plenty of discussion around the CeltiXfire proposal, we feel that all the issues forwarded have been addressed, and we would now like to officially propose CeltiXfire to

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2006-07-13 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
this spam is horror these days!!! I am modetor for adffaces podling... 1 spams aday... ;) thx, brett On 7/13/06, Brett Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unsubscribed them... On 12 Jul 2006 23:54:39 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is for all users sending

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-13 Thread Jerome Louvel
Hi all, As users of AsyncWeb in our Restlet project (http://www.restlet.org), we are interested in seeing it join the ASF and consolidating its efforts with both MINA and HttpComponents NIO. We have a Restlet API that we are planning to submit to the JCP next year and that is a RESTful

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jul 12, 2006, at 1:39 PM, robert burrell donkin wrote: On 7/11/06, Geir Magnusson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip (And I'll note now that I'm interested in participating, although can't commit the time to be a mentor right now.) this seems like a good opportunity to reintroduce an

Re: [VOTE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-13 Thread James Strachan
+1 On 7/13/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to vote +1 (non-binding) Regards, Matthias On 7/12/06, Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There has been plenty of discussion around the CeltiXfire proposal, we feel that all the issues forwarded have been

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-13 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/12/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer behind AsyncWeb, http://asyncweb.safehaus.org, an HTTP engine built upon MINA

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: This was addressed by the board a few months ago, where we admitted that having several Mentors could make sense, but that there needed to be one Mentor which was tasked with the position of being the, for lack of a better term, primary mentor. This was relayed to the

Re: [VOTE] CeltiXfire Project Proposal

2006-07-13 Thread peter royal
On Jul 13, 2006, at 2:48 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote: There has been plenty of discussion around the CeltiXfire proposal, we feel that all the issues forwarded have been addressed, and we would now like to officially propose CeltiXfire to the Incubator for consideration. The proposal can be

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-13 Thread Mladen Turk
Jim Jagielski wrote: MINA is expected to propose a move to TLP soon... MINA started off as a framework for ApacheDS and has grown into its own very cool codebase. I'd like to help here as well. If that happens, I'm willing to help as well. Although I'm not a huge fun of NIO in Servlet

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-13 Thread Alex Karasulu
Jim Jagielski wrote: On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 7/12/06, peter royal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been talking with Dave Irving who is the principal developer behind AsyncWeb, http://asyncweb.safehaus.org, an HTTP engine built upon MINA

Question for the webpage ADF Faces Project Incubation Status

2006-07-13 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hey the webpage ADF Faces Project Incubation Status (see [1]) contains the following statement (I am just updating some points): snip Copyright -..-.. Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been received. It is only necessary to transfer rights for the package,

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 7/13/06, David Blevins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you'd start with one of the mentors as chair then, maybe half way through incubation, start grooming a new ppmc chair from within the project. +1 This addresses my concern about formally identifying the mentor who is taking the key

Re: Question for the webpage ADF Faces Project Incubation Status

2006-07-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/13/06, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey the webpage ADF Faces Project Incubation Status (see [1]) contains the following statement (I am just updating some points): snip Copyright -..-.. Check and make sure that the papers that transfer rights to the ASF been received.

Re: Question for the webpage ADF Faces Project Incubation Status

2006-07-13 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
here's the way i see it (hopefully other people will jump in if i have this wrong)... the date is intended to be social rather than formal: jim (the apache secretary) maintains our form records. the web site is just a way for people to find out information. so, i'd say use the date the document

Site-author/guide/sites.xml

2006-07-13 Thread Craig L Russell
Hi,I volunteered to write a guide for incubator web sites, and created the attached xml file as a start. A few logistics questions:The file is in the incubator/trunk/site-author/guides/ directory as sites.xml. This is the location and name that Robert and I discussed at ApacheCon 2006. Is this

Re: Site-author/guide/sites.xml

2006-07-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 7/13/06, Craig L Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, hello again I volunteered to write a guide for incubator web sites, and created the attached xml file as a start. A few logistics questions: The file is in the incubator/trunk/site-author/guides/ directory as sites.xml. This is the

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-25) update of the adffaces page on i.a.o

2006-07-13 Thread JIRA
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-25?page=all ] Matthias Weßendorf updated INCUBATOR-25: Attachment: adffaces.patch the patch update of the adffaces page on i.a.o Key:

[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-27) Overhaul the Check Trademark process

2006-07-13 Thread JIRA
Overhaul the Check Trademark process -- Key: INCUBATOR-27 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-27 Project: Incubator Type: Task Reporter: Matthias Weßendorf Lot's of incubator pages point to nameprotect DOT

[jira] Updated: (INCUBATOR-26) Add a sample podling web site and a guide for how to use it

2006-07-13 Thread Craig Russell (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-26?page=all ] Craig Russell updated INCUBATOR-26: --- Attachment: INCUBATOR-26.patch This is the working version of the guide to using the sample podling site. Add a sample podling web site and a guide

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread upayavira
i think the idea of training a chair during incubation is a great idea. Would have been good for felix. but, to do much of the work of a chair, they need access to things like iclas.txt and svn auth.. Would a non member chair of an incubating project get access there? Would it be appropriate?

RE: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Cliff Schmidt wrote: This addresses my concern about formally identifying the mentor who is taking the key responsibility for the podling (rather than three rarely available mentors with no one of them taking responsibility). The problem isn't the lack of a single mentor, it is the failing of

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread Ted Leung
On Jul 13, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: I just want to note that we don't have a requirement that chairs be members. I thought I recalled a rule that mentors had to be members, but I can't quickly find confirmation of that. Yep, I was the XML PMC chair for several years and not a

Re: [pre-proposal] AsyncWeb

2006-07-13 Thread peter royal
On Jul 12, 2006, at 11:19 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: It almost sounds like this would be a good candidate for a software grant instead of meriting a full incubation. How large of a community is around AsyncWeb? From the proposal, it sounds just like one committer - so as long as the IP

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread Kenneth Tam
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html A Mentor is a role undertaken by a permanent member of the Apache Software Foundation and is chosen by the Sponsor to actively lead in the discharge of their duties (listed above). On 7/13/06, Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread Ted Leung
On Jul 13, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: How hard is it to understand that the PMC Chair has no role (slight hyperbole)? If the PMC Chair is a visible role, the community is already in trouble. The only role that a PMC Chair normally fills is getting the quarterly report filed.

RE: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Kenneth Tam wrote: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html A Mentor is a role undertaken by a permanent member of the Apache Software Foundation and is chosen by the Sponsor to actively lead in the discharge of their duties (listed above). We still haven't

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread Cliff Schmidt
On 7/13/06, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cliff Schmidt wrote: It also allows this mentor to demonstrate the role of a chair How hard is it to understand that the PMC Chair has no role (slight hyperbole)? Then I guess I would have to ask you, how hard is it to understand that the

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread David Blevins
On Jul 13, 2006, at 5:49 PM, Ted Leung wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: How hard is it to understand that the PMC Chair has no role (slight hyperbole)? If the PMC Chair is a visible role, the community is already in trouble. The only role that a PMC Chair

RE: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Ted Leung wrote: I don't know that I agree completely with you about the role of PMC Chairs - sometimes a good PMC chair helps a project quite a bit As the Chair? Or as a recognized leader by his or her peers based upon the weight of experience and ideas, rather than the official role?

[jira] Resolved: (INCUBATOR-25) update of the adffaces page on i.a.o

2006-07-13 Thread Jean T. Anderson (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-25?page=all ] Jean T. Anderson resolved INCUBATOR-25: --- Resolution: Fixed Assign To: Jean T. Anderson Patch committed revision 421789. update of the adffaces page on i.a.o

Re: svn commit: r421789 - in /incubator/public/trunk: site-author/projects/adffaces.xml site-publish/projects/adffaces.html

2006-07-13 Thread Jean T. Anderson
oops, to commit Matthias' patch I needed to do a svn propset svn:eol-style native adffaces.xml and adffaces.html (I'm on linux and these files were created on dos), hence his small changes look like huge changes. next time I'll separate the propset from the content change. sorry, -jean [EMAIL

Re: Mentors - the more, the merrier? [WAS Re: [VOTE] Accept Heraldry into the Incubator]

2006-07-13 Thread Ted Leung
On Jul 13, 2006, at 7:16 PM, David Blevins wrote: In the ASF we do have PMC Chairs, period. Now let's say, someone wins this debate on wether or not having a PMC Chair from inside or outside the project is more or less likely to result in dependence. I'm not of the opinion that we