Re: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@yahoo.com wrote:  * IPMC informally agrees that the opinion of any TLP prospectively admitting a graduating podling as a subproject is of great weight with regard to whether the aggregate community situation would meet volume +

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
Can a few PMC members please check this out to see if I resolved all the issues? Thanks, -T On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: Incubator PMC members: I've addressed the concerns brought up in the first vote and have re-rolled the distribution archives

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
What's the SVN tag for the release? It's useful to be able to compare the source archive with SVN to check if there are any missing or extraneous files. It's also useful to compare the tar and zip versions of the archives - it's not unknown for these to be different (ignoring differences in

Re: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote: From: Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org Subject: Re: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 4:47 AM On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Matt Benson

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: What's the SVN tag for the release? It's useful to be able to compare the source archive with SVN to check if there are any missing or extraneous files.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
The SVN branch contains lots of .settings directories which are Eclipse-specific; these aren't normally added to SVN as they tend to vary between Eclipse installations. I think they should be deleted from SVN. The .project and .classpath files may also vary, but are less of a problem. We can

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: The SVN branch contains lots of .settings directories which are Eclipse-specific; these aren't normally added to SVN as they tend to vary between Eclipse installations. I think they should be deleted from SVN. The .project and

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN repository is considered as distribution too. Please check this, e.g. on legal-discuss. Yep - I was just subscribing to legal-discuss right now to get an official answer :)

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 14/04/2009, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: Incubator PMC members: I've addressed the concerns brought up in the first vote and have re-rolled the distribution archives with the fixes. Specifically, here's what changed since the last vote: * Changed the JDK 1.5 system

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
I've just tried a build on Win/XP, Java 1.6.0. This reports quite a few compilation warnings, for example: [javac] wtk\src\pivot\wtk\content\TreeViewFileRenderer.java:34: warning: sun.awt.shell.ShellFolder is Sun proprietary API and may be removed in a future release ... Does Pivot only

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Olio 0.1

2009-04-16 Thread Shanti Subramanyam - PAE
On 04/15/09 18:15, sebb wrote: On 16/04/2009, Shanti Subramanyam shanti.subraman...@sun.com wrote: Thank you very much for your very prompt review. Answers to your questions below. Shanti sebb wrote: The OlioDriver.jar file contains a smaller OlioDriver.jar file. This is very confusing;

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it occurs to me that since the distribution archives don't have the offending code, we should be able to release 1.1 as packaged (pending the vote), and if legal-discuss says that we need to remove that stuff

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, it occurs to me that since the distribution archives don't have the offending code, we should be able to release 1.1 as packaged (pending the vote), and

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
There are rules as to what 3rd party dependencies are allowed. For example, LGPL dependencies cannot be included in distributions; furthermore, any such dependencies must be optional. That is not something that can be fixed later. We don't have any LGPL libraries in the distribution - only in

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
We don't have any LGPL libraries in the distribution - only in SVN, for some demos that aren't actually included in the distribution artifacts. Or dependencies of any kind, for that mater. The actual *release* is compliant with ASF's policies. If our SVN repository is not, that will be fixed

RE: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Matt Benson wrote: I'll apologize in advance because I will probably sound like a total dick in this email being that I'm irritated for unrelated reasons at the moment. LOL Sorry to hear it, but I must have missed the part where you were so acting. let it now be known that Commons will not

RE: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator

2009-04-16 Thread Matt Benson
--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: From: Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com Subject: RE: Commons issues WAS RE: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator To: general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 11:30 AM Matt Benson wrote: I'll apologize in advance

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200904.mbox/browser Summary: (a) Some consider SVN to be part of your distribution, and some don't, so there's no true resolution there (b) Per http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#transition-incubator, this weighs on us less because

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
p.s. on the trunk, we've just migrated the demos sub-project and the JFreeChart provider off of the ASF repository for good Were they license incompatible? I'd really like to have demos at the ASF, not just the core code. But they should be demos that the project is willing to maintain. The

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert tvolk...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, per the recommendations on the legal-discuss thread and here (and just to make sure we're fully in keeping with the spirit of ASF policies), I've removed the offending files from the tag (and copied s/tag/branch/ ? the branch to

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
AFAICS the archives look OK, so no objections from me. Not to be a pain, but is that a +1? :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Question about the incubator and non-ASL code

2009-04-16 Thread Rich Bowen
If, hypothetically, a project was considering entering the incubator, and if that project had an -extras repository for community-developed plugins to the project, and if some of those plugins were under non- ASL licenses, what would be the policy? Could there be an -extras repository

RE: Question about the incubator and non-ASL code

2009-04-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Rich Bowen wrote: If, hypothetically, a project was considering entering the incubator, and if that project had an -extras repository for community-developed plugins to the project, and if some of those plugins were under non- ASL licenses, what would be the policy? Are they compatible or