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On 7 Jun 2011, at 02:40, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
> would then like
> to see a binding committment from IBM to fund this budget -- with cash,
The ASF does not muddy the waters of open source development with cash. Our
sponsors do not sponsor s
> We didn't balk when Geronimo was proposed, despite complaints from JBoss.
> We didn't balk when Felix (nee Oscar) was proposed. We didn't balk in other
> cases. We have never picked winners, we have incubated projects and let the
> community pick the winners. I don't see a reason to change our
already cancelled again ;)
expect a -RC4 soon...
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Tue, 6/7/11, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> From: Mohammad Nour El-Din
> Subject: Fwd: [VOTE] Apache Isis release candidate 0.1.2-RC3-incubating
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Date: Tuesday, June 7, 2011, 5:27 AM
> Ap
Apache Isis release candidate 0.1.2-RC3-incubating is undergoing
-- Forwarded message --
From: Dan Haywood
Date: Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:25 AM
Subject: [VOTE] Apache Isis release candidate 0.1.2-RC3-incubating
To: "isis-...@incubator.apache.org"
Third time lucky!
I've staged a
Hi,
Le 7 juin 11 à 01:44, Ross Gardler a écrit :
Eric,
Thanks for the background.
You're welcome :)
It would be great if you can repost this to the dev@community.a.o
list if the podling is accepted.
Sure I'll do. But like you wrote : only if the podling is accepted.
It's off topic
On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:27 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Christian Lippka wrote:
>>
>> While the technical analyze here seems (should not use that word) correct my
>> understanding is that missing bits could still be provided if requested. But
>> this must be answered by p
I'll be there (I live in Portland by the way). I did some
development for GoOO/LibreOffice in the past but I don't have much time
lately to do so. So now I mainly do a little 'marketing' in the Pacific
NorthWest for LibreOffice. In fact, I was planning on doing some
'marketing' at OSCON and po
Greetings,
After a long period of reflection, I have accumulated many serious concerns
about the viability of the proposed OOo podling. There are a lot of unknowns
which make it hard to predict whether the project will become self-sustaining
-- but while the grand experiment plays out, it is goin
Rather wondering why this is the one thread that won't die...
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Allen Pulsifer wrote:
>
> > I think your labels "Conclusion" and "Supporting statements" are
> incorrect
>
> To the contrary, Cor indicates that I nailed the matter quite square
Allen Pulsifer wrote:
> I think your labels "Conclusion" and "Supporting statements" are incorrect
To the contrary, Cor indicates that I nailed the matter quite squarely.
--- Noel
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To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-uns
Cor Nouws wrote:
> Noel J. Bergman wrote (06-06-11 23:51)
>> Conclusion:
>>
>> "I do not believe the ASF is likely to provide a good home for the
>> OO.o project in the long run."
>>
>> Supporting statements:
>> [...]
>
> Supporting explanation ;-)
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubat
Add it to the wiki, Jomar! I'll be there for sure.
S.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Jomar Silva (Cuca) wrote:
> I understand that it could be difficult for you to come to Brazil on
> the next month, but we'll have here the biggest Free Software event in
> South America, the FISL (http://sof
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> On 06/06/2011 19:17, Danese Cooper wrote:
>>
>> Well...we were thinking about adding a track at
>> http://www.transfersummit.com/BarCamp
>>
>> which is in Europe...at least.
>
> Actually there are two separate events we are considering here, a
I understand that it could be difficult for you to come to Brazil on
the next month, but we'll have here the biggest Free Software event in
South America, the FISL (http://softwarelivre.org/fisl12?lang=en).
I know that some of you were at FISL in past years, and maybe someone
will attend the event
Eric,
Thanks for the background. It would be great if you can repost this to
the dev@community.a.o list if the podling is accepted. It's off topic
for this list, but very much on topic over there. Note, I've signed up
as a mentor on the proposal.
We need to convince Ian Lynch to get involved
On 06/06/2011 19:17, Danese Cooper wrote:
Well...we were thinking about adding a track at
http://www.transfersummit.com/BarCamp
which is in Europe...at least.
Actually there are two separate events we are considering here, a
Barcamp and the conference itself. I'm talking to the organisers now
Jon, I'm available as a mentor if you're still looking.
Patrick
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Jonathan Hsieh wrote:
> It looks like we've gotten many positive responses, and thus far have had no
> issues brought up. We have 3 mentors signed up now, but if anyone else is
> willing, we'd be int
Cor Nouws wrote (07-06-11 00:31)
Noel J. Bergman wrote (06-06-11 23:51)
Conclusion:
"I do not believe the ASF is likely to provide a good home for the
OO.o project in the long run."
Supporting statements:
[...]
Supporting explanation ;-)
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-gen
Hi Ross,
Le 6 juin 11 à 23:52, Ross Gardler a écrit :
Thank you very much, I appreciate a lot :-)
Mentoring is essential in the Education Project, because our main
goal,
after create a strong bridge with Educational world, was to
attract new
developers.
I'm a bit lost with the Apache Fo
Noel J. Bergman wrote (06-06-11 23:51)
Conclusion:
"I do not believe the ASF is likely to provide a good home for the OO.o project in
the long run."
Supporting statements:
[...]
Supporting explanation ;-)
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/browser
--
-
Noel,
I think your labels "Conclusion" and "Supporting statements" are incorrect,
and that might explain why you "fail to see how you draw the conclusion from
the supporting arguments". The paragraph in question may contain more than
one conclusion, and it may contain one or more opinions which t
On 06/06/2011 14:30, eric b wrote:
Hi Ross,
Apologies, I just retrieved the mail one minute ago, sorting the n 750
mails I received from this list.
Le 2 juin 11 à 12:13, Ross Gardler a écrit :
On 02/06/2011 10:30, eric b wrote:
Hi,
For the record, I added the Education Project idea on the w
Michael,
Conclusion:
"I do not believe the ASF is likely to provide a good home for the OO.o project
in the long run."
Supporting statements:
"They are sufficiently confident and comfortable with their model that
attempting to negotiate over changing any core aspect of it (such as the
non-co
Hi,
2011/6/6 Jukka Zitting :
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:16 AM, William A. Rowe Jr.
> wrote:
>> On 6/5/2011 7:13 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>> There are 146 projects listed on OpenOffice.org - all with mailing
>>> lists. Last time I read the proposal, it wasn't clear how many of
>>> these are ac
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 16:59 -0400, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Drew,
>
> > Quick note: I'll be staffing the TDF/LibreOffice table at SELF
> > (Southeast Linux Fest) in Spartanburg, South Carolina this coming
> > weekend.
>
> I can't make it for this weekend, but keep me in mind for future, local,
>
Hi,
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:16 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> On 6/5/2011 7:13 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>> There are 146 projects listed on OpenOffice.org - all with mailing
>> lists. Last time I read the proposal, it wasn't clear how many of
>> these are active and being brought across. It
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:58 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Keith Curtis wrote:
>> I wish the Apache org was more useful to me than just providing my HTTP
>> server.
>>
>
> It is official: Keith is a troll.
> We always have.
> Do not feed.
Sorry for anything off-topic, e
And not to forget:
With Fernand Vanrie, we have aboard a still more experienced and more
active extension developer.
>
> Hello Christoph, welcome aboard!
>
> I'm glad to see an extensions development expert with the project.I
> remember reading many years ago, maybe 1990 or so in "Comput
Hi,
Jochen Wiedmann wrote on 2011-06-06 23.10:
Niclas, several people from TDF/LO, including Florian Effenberger,
have expressed their wish that the project should be accepted on this
mailing list. Simple reason: They consider the alternatives (code
stays within Oracle or whatever else) worse t
Hello Rob,
thank you very much for the warm welcome.
Yes, I think the entry-level is far too high. Even experienced
developers need much time to get started with their first extension.
And besides "power users" needing a quick macro I also think of a second
use case:
Even a full featured office
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> For the record; I am opposing this contribution and will vote -1,
> unless there is a clear indication that TDF/LO is behind it 100% and
> the two projects are on a trajectory of a merge.
Niclas, several people from TDF/LO, including Flori
While I respect your right to your opinion, I will disagree that
creating a podling to sort all this out is bad for the org's
reputation (graduation is an entirely different story, but only
time will tell how this plays out). The fact is that we normally
aren't given assets until a podling is acc
Hi Jim,
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 16:14 -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> certainly don't help. It just reinforces a perceived division
> as well as almost forcing the "other side" to take a defensive
> stance.
Hey ho; I see my name being taken intravenously ;-) so the longer quote
from a private
Drew,
> Quick note: I'll be staffing the TDF/LibreOffice table at SELF
> (Southeast Linux Fest) in Spartanburg, South Carolina this coming
> weekend.
I can't make it for this weekend, but keep me in mind for future, local,
activities.
--- Noel
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> For the record; I am opposing this contribution and will vote -1,
> unless there is a clear indication that TDF/LO is behind it 100% and
> the two projects are on a trajectory of a merge.
I urge TDF to participate, but their participation should not be a
prerequisite for u
>
> As for Ohio, I am already planning on attending,
>
I happen to be keynoting at OLF this year...purely coincidence. Happy to
host a BOF about the Apache Way there if it would help.
Danese
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 21:35 +0100, Simon Phipps wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nóirín Plunkett wrote:
> >
> > > Note that an expo-hall pass is free until (and including) today; it's
> > > $25 thereafter.
> > >
> > > This al
Thank you both for (what I perceive as) balanced responses, without
all the noise out there.
For the record; I am opposing this contribution and will vote -1,
unless there is a clear indication that TDF/LO is behind it 100% and
the two projects are on a trajectory of a merge. I don't want to see
A
Concerning the extensions, by reading the file Sam Ruby uploaded,
the following extensions are in the grant:
* PDF Import (module sdext)
* Presentation Minimizer (module sdext)
* Presenter Console (module sdext)
* Report Builder (modules reportbuilder, reportdesign)
* Wiki publisher (module swext
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nóirín Plunkett wrote:
>
> > Note that an expo-hall pass is free until (and including) today; it's
> > $25 thereafter.
> >
> > This also opens up the evening events Mon-Fri, which, if you're going
> > to f
Hi all,
I hope you don't mind that another new face appears on this mailing
list. I followed some of the discussion during the last days and like to
add that I'm generally happy to see the OpenOffice.org project moving
forward. That said, I have to admit that I'm rather inexperienced with
regard t
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nóirín Plunkett wrote:
> Note that an expo-hall pass is free until (and including) today; it's
> $25 thereafter.
>
> This also opens up the evening events Mon-Fri, which, if you're going
> to find yourself in Portland that week, might be fun to attend :-)
>
> Noiri
Simon Phipps wrote on 06/06/2011 03:54:23 PM:
> From: Simon Phipps
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Date: 06/06/2011 03:55 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:49 PM, wrote:
>
> >
> > Simon Phipps wrote on 06/06/2011 03:18:11 PM:
> >
> > > From: S
I thought I'd reintroduce myself. I first posted last week but over the
weekend, was a) busy with other pressing things, and b) wanted to let others,
especially new voices, speak—now is the time to shape the new community. I've
been involved with OpenOffice.org (and now the ODF) for nearly 11 ye
Hi Jim,
Jim Jagielski wrote on 2011-06-06 22.20:
I replied on the TDF ML about #3 which, from my reading (and
from what I have been told by entities both within and outside
of Oracle) requested the "infrastructure" which was later
clarified to mean servers, various hardware, access to
private Or
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> Volker Merschmann wrote:
>
>>> I've been told that Oracle and TDF *were* in discussions but
>>> that the demands by TDF were sufficiently unpalatable to Oracle
>>> as to prevent any sort of agreement... IBM may have strongly
>>> suggested the
Note that an expo-hall pass is free until (and including) today; it's
$25 thereafter.
This also opens up the evening events Mon-Fri, which, if you're going
to find yourself in Portland that week, might be fun to attend :-)
Noirin
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
wrote:
> Some
On Jun 6, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jim, all,
>>>
>>> 2011/6/4 Jim Jagielski :
On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
Volker Merschmann wrote:
> > I've been told that Oracle and TDF *were* in discussions but
> > that the demands by TDF were sufficiently unpalatable to Oracle
> > as to prevent any sort of agreement... IBM may have strongly
> > suggested the ASF as a backup, but we were the runner-up in
> > a sense
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
>
> > Hi Jim, all,
> >
> > 2011/6/4 Jim Jagielski :
> >>
> >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I think Oracle's choice had more to do with IBM's
On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote:
> Hi Jim, all,
>
> 2011/6/4 Jim Jagielski :
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Personally, I think Oracle's choice had more to do with IBM's
>>> recommendation, than taxes.
>>>
>>
>> I've been told that Oracle
Christoph Jopp wrote on 06/06/2011 07:57:19 AM:
> Dear All,
>
> I put myself on the initial committers list because I want to help the
> Apache OpenOffice Project in some way I can.
>
> As nearly nobody should know my name, I'll introduce myself briefly:
>
> Since 2005 I tried to support OOo b
I've created a wiki page for us to co-ordinate who can attend what where. Do
please edit at will, there are no rules and I am sure I made lots of
mistakes :-)
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OOoCommunitySummit
S.
Hi Jim, all,
2011/6/4 Jim Jagielski :
>
> On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
>>
>> Personally, I think Oracle's choice had more to do with IBM's
>> recommendation, than taxes.
>>
>
> I've been told that Oracle and TDF *were* in discussions but
> that the demands by TDF were sufficien
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:49 PM, wrote:
>
> Simon Phipps wrote on 06/06/2011 03:18:11 PM:
>
> > From: Simon Phipps
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Date: 06/06/2011 03:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> >
> >
André Schnabel wrote on 06/06/2011 03:23:30 PM:
> From: André Schnabel
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Date: 06/06/2011 03:24 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
>
> Hi,
>
> Am 06.06.2011 21:07, schrieb Sophie Gautier:
> > Hi,
> > On 06/06/2011 21:21, Alexandro Colorado wrote
Don Harbison
Program Director, IBM ODF Initiative
Tel. +1-978-399-7018
Mobile: +1-978-761-0116
Email: donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com
Simon Phipps wrote on 06/06/2011 03:18:11 PM:
> From: Simon Phipps
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Date: 06/06/2011 03:19 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit
Dennis,
If we do a meeting at OSCON, it would be in the "tutorial days", which don't
have a fee.
Danese
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> Some of us in the region can probably find our way to Portland, Oregon, but
> OSCON doesn't fit an open-source budget [;<).
>
> C
Some of us in the region can probably find our way to Portland, Oregon, but
OSCON doesn't fit an open-source budget [;<).
Could there be a venue where it is not necessary to register for OSCON to be
able to participate?
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Simon Phipps [mailto:si...@webm
On 6 Jun 2011, at 18:43, Benson Margulies wrote:
> The expression 'land-grab' in here bothers me.
>
> I understand (if not agree with) the 'deep philosophy justification'
> of the FSF for a particular licensing strategy.
>
> I understand the views of individuals who don't want to benefit
> corp
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> I asked some LibreOffice folk what they thought was missing from the list.
> In addition to the stuff Christian listed (and the fact the list was not
> derived from the latest beta), they said that there are a large number of
> un-integrated wo
Hi,
Am 06.06.2011 21:07, schrieb Sophie Gautier:
Hi,
On 06/06/2011 21:21, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
[...]
Thinking LO/OOo is a more desktop oriented app, would make sense to have
some participation. Too bad this time the outreach was as strong as the
first year with Mozilla.
No difficult for
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 15:04, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> > It's just a meeting between colleagues. If all it does is
> > break a little of the entrenched ice I'd call it a success.
> >
> > Sure beats email for dealing with emotions/trust.
>
> Right
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 15:04, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> It's just a meeting between colleagues. If all it does is
> break a little of the entrenched ice I'd call it a success.
>
> Sure beats email for dealing with emotions/trust.
Right.
And we can also be optimistic that the Incubator will vote the
I asked some LibreOffice folk what they thought was missing from the list.
In addition to the stuff Christian listed (and the fact the list was not
derived from the latest beta), they said that there are a large number of
un-integrated work-in-progress patches in the form of CWSs that it would be
i
Hi,
On 06/06/2011 21:21, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
[...]
Thinking LO/OOo is a more desktop oriented app, would make sense to have
some participation. Too bad this time the outreach was as strong as the
first year with Mozilla.
No difficult for several of us to attend and be there, will be plea
It's just a meeting between colleagues. If all it does is
break a little of the entrenched ice I'd call it a success.
Sure beats email for dealing with emotions/trust.
- Original Message
> From: Benson Margulies
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Sent: Mon, June 6, 2011 2:59:54 PM
>
A summit meeting presupposed that a relatively small number of
entities have a relatively well-understood agenda.
It cannot work as a forum for 50-odd (!) people to try to find common ground.
Now, what might these entities be? At Apache, I claim that the only
appropriate entity would be an Apache
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:31, eric b wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 6 juin 11 à 20:21, Greg Stein a écrit :
>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:18, Alexandro Colorado
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'll surrely can make it to the US if needed. OSCON is good, but would
>>> like
>>> to know if there will be enough OOo people t
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> I extracted the text from the Grant. It needed some minor cleanup
> (for example, to remove page numbers). It is possible that I
> introduced errors in the process, but that seems unlikely given how
> clean this data was. In any case, in the eve
Danese Cooper wrote on 06/06/2011 02:34:30 PM:
> From: Danese Cooper
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Date: 06/06/2011 02:35 PM
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
>
> Eric (and all),
>
> We're only just starting to discuss this...Once we decide on a few
venues
> for meetings...
On 6 June 2011 18:09, eric b wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 6 juin 11 à 19:00, Ian Lynch a écrit :
>
> Look guys, this is going round in circles. I'm not an ASF or TDF member
>> but I spent quite a lot of time and effort on OOo and ODF in the past so I
>> care what happens. The fact is the software grant i
On 6/6/11 14:26, Greg Stein wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:17, Richard S. Hall wrote:
On 6/6/11 13:50, Greg Stein wrote:
...
How about we drop these lines of discussion, and simply follow Ross'
advice and focus on "what is needed by the Incubator PMC to accept
this proposal?"
While I agree
Eric (and all),
We're only just starting to discuss this...Once we decide on a few venues
for meetings...we'll start wiki pages for signups so people can say whether
they'll be there.
Danese
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:31 AM, eric b wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Le 6 juin 11 à 20:21, Greg Stein a écrit :
>
>
Hi,
Le 6 juin 11 à 20:21, Greg Stein a écrit :
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:18, Alexandro Colorado
wrote:
I'll surrely can make it to the US if needed. OSCON is good, but
would like
to know if there will be enough OOo people there to ensure there
would be an
useful exchange.
More than z
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:25 PM, wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Please allow me to introduce myself. I know many of you on this list
> already, either personally, in a direct way or indirectly, due to my work
> over the last 6 years. But I am a newbie at Apache and learning the
> Apache Way. While I a
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:17, Richard S. Hall wrote:
> On 6/6/11 13:50, Greg Stein wrote:
>...
>> How about we drop these lines of discussion, and simply follow Ross'
>> advice and focus on "what is needed by the Incubator PMC to accept
>> this proposal?"
>
> While I agree that a lot of this discu
Hi Everyone,
Please allow me to introduce myself. I know many of you on this list
already, either personally, in a direct way or indirectly, due to my work
over the last 6 years. But I am a newbie at Apache and learning the
Apache Way. While I am an IBMer, I commit that I will emulate Sam Ruby
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper wrote:
> >
> >> However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far
> >> off, and with the wealth of conferenc
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:18, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:08, Simon Phipps wrote:
>> > On 6 Jun 2011, at 19:03, Nóirín Plunkett wrote:
>> >...
>> >> However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper wrote:
>
>> However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far
>> off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months,
>> perhaps we could set something up soo
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:08, Simon Phipps wrote:
> > On 6 Jun 2011, at 19:03, Nóirín Plunkett wrote:
> >...
> >> However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far
> >> off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next
Well...we were thinking about adding a track at
http://www.transfersummit.com/BarCamp
which is in Europe...at least.
D
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper wrote:
>
> > However, it seems to me that October and November are still
On 6/6/11 13:50, Greg Stein wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 13:37, Simos Xenitellis
wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:
On 6/6/11 11:26, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Richard S. Hall
wrote:
On 6/6/11 10:41, Manfred A. Reiter wrote:
Hi Ri
Hi,
no matter how the current discussion about OOo at Apache turns out, I'd
be happy to meet with people. I most probably won't be able to make it
to the US, but I'm on a few conferences in Europe, and surely will
attend LibreOffice Conference in Paris.
Despite that the current discussion ma
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper wrote:
> However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far
> off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months,
> perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone?
>
> I've just asked for a room at
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Danese Cooper wrote:
> However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far
> off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months,
> perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone?
>
> I've just asked for a room at O
Good one :-)
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:11, Donald Whytock wrote:
> Actually, "land-grab" isn't an invalid analogy. Think of a
> mountain...Imagine some enterprising nonprof manages to buy a scenic
> mountain. A cadre of volunteers sees to it, cleaning up litter and
> the occasional forest fire.
Actually, "land-grab" isn't an invalid analogy. Think of a
mountain...Imagine some enterprising nonprof manages to buy a scenic
mountain. A cadre of volunteers sees to it, cleaning up litter and
the occasional forest fire. The nonprof opens up the mountain for
anyone to go play on, as long as th
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 14:08, Simon Phipps wrote:
> On 6 Jun 2011, at 19:03, Nóirín Plunkett wrote:
>...
>> However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far
>> off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months,
>> perhaps we could set something up sooner than t
However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far
off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months,
perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone?
I've just asked for a room at OSCON, although I'd like to mention that many
of TDF's members a
On 6 Jun 2011, at 19:03, Nóirín Plunkett wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>> My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think
>> it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor
>> TDF but I have a deep concern for
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think
> it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor
> TDF but I have a deep concern for OpenOffice.org and am very keen to see the
> community
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Benson Margulies wrote:
> The expression 'land-grab' in here bothers me.
>
> I understand (if not agree with) the 'deep philosophy justification'
> of the FSF for a particular licensing strategy.
>
> I understand the views of individuals who don't want to benefit
>
As the convener of the LibreOffice conference, I'd welcome such a meeting.
We can have it in the course of the ODF master class.
Best,
Charles.
Le 6 juin 2011, 7:25 PM, "Sam Ruby" a écrit :
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > My
apologies if this propo...
I'm interested.
>
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 13:37, Simos Xenitellis
wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:
>> On 6/6/11 11:26, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Richard S. Hall
>>> wrote:
On 6/6/11 10:41, Manfred A. Reiter wrote:
>
> Hi Richard
The expression 'land-grab' in here bothers me.
I understand (if not agree with) the 'deep philosophy justification'
of the FSF for a particular licensing strategy.
I understand the views of individuals who don't want to benefit
corporations without extracting, at least, some token cooperation in
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:39 PM, Richard S. Hall wrote:
> On 6/6/11 11:26, Simos Xenitellis wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Richard S. Hall
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 6/6/11 10:41, Manfred A. Reiter wrote:
Hi Richard, *
2011/6/6 Richard S. Hall
>
> On 6/6/11 2:48
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think
> it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor
> TDF but I have a deep concern for OpenOffice.org and am very keen to see the
> community
On 6 Jun 2011, at 18:08, Simon Phipps wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Phillip Rhodes
> wrote:
>>
>>> Let's say we persuaded the good guys at Apache that this is a ploy to
>>> manipulate them and they reject the code. Where then will it go? If
>>> conspiracy is right it definitely won't b
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