Jim Jagielski wrote:
For now on, Marvin which sends the reminder Emails to the PMCs
will also send reminders to all the PPMCs (via their *-dev@ lists)
as well as the summary to IPMC.
It's crucial the that
http://incubator.apache.org/report_due_[123].txt
page be up to date and
Hello,
we got one +1 vote here and one on our dev
list from an IPMC member.
We need one more +1 vote to be able to
release.
Please cast your votes.
Thanks,
Jörn
On 11/19/11 6:00 PM, Jörn Kottmann wrote:
Hi all,
please review and vote on approving the release of Apache OpenNLP.
The Apache
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
...I think the Champion should be an ASF mentor, which I believe
to be consistent with my interpretation of the documentation on podling
[PROPOSAL]...
I agree that the *initial* Champion must be an
The vote now passes with 3 +1 binding votes (including 2 from dev list
vote):
Tom White
Olivier Lamy (dev list vote)
Patrick Hunt (dev list vote)
Thanks for everyone who has reviewed and voted!
I will continue with the release process.
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Bilung Lee
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Alan D. Cabrera l...@toolazydogs.com wrote:
On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:47 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote:
Alan,
It's unfortunate that the vote only took 24 hours on the Kafka list; it
was my understanding that votes take 72 hours.
Because the only change was in the
On 23 November 2011 23:52, Neha Narkhede neha.narkh...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Kafka community is excited to share that RC for release of
Kafka-0.7.0-incubating has been +1'd over at kafka-user@incubator. Please
try it out and vote for the Apache Kafka 0.7.0-incubating release. This is
the
On 24 November 2011 03:29, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
I'm sorry. I did not mean to suggest that the champion of the PPMC of which
I am a member is any of those cases. I'm certain our champion is
Hi everyone,
The Empire-db podling joined the incubator in July 2008. Since then it has
made 6 releases following Apache guidelines, added 3 new committers,
and added 1 new PPMC member. The community is healthy and growing,
and we've shown an ability to self-govern using accepted Apache
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:00 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 November 2011 22:39, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:05 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
Also, it would make sense to publish the name of the champion in the
listing of podlings:
+1
(But I must admit I am biased)
Rainer
from: Francis De Brabandere [mailto:franci...@gmail.com]
to: general@incubator.apache.org
re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Empire-db Podling
Hi everyone,
The Empire-db podling joined the incubator in July 2008. Since then it
has
made 6 releases
: * Umbrella Projects add a layer of indirection that make it hard for the
: board to know when there are problems in the individual (sub/leaf)
: projects.
:
: * The Board needs regular status updates on all the projects in the ASF
: (where podlings are considered projects)
:
: Podlings
: Which is exactly why I suggest extending/clarifying that role. The
: word Champion might not be ideal, but we already have it and if you
: read
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion
: it can be understood to include those new responsibilities (as Chris
+1 (binding)
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Rainer Döbele doeb...@esteam.de wrote:
+1
(But I must admit I am biased)
Rainer
from: Francis De Brabandere [mailto:franci...@gmail.com]
to: general@incubator.apache.org
re: [VOTE] Graduation of the Empire-db Podling
Hi everyone,
The
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
...I think the Champion should be an ASF mentor, which I believe
to be consistent with my interpretation of the
+1 (binding)
GOGOGOGOGO!
Martijn
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Francis De Brabandere
franci...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone,
The Empire-db podling joined the incubator in July 2008. Since then it has
made 6 releases following Apache guidelines, added 3 new committers,
and added 1 new
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:52 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 November 2011 11:34, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:00 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 November 2011 22:39, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011
On 23 November 2011 20:25, Chris Hostetter hossman_l...@fucit.org wrote:
...
: Vice President implies power, we don't want to give the impression
: that the Champion has any superpowers (reread the thread from which
: this one derives) - it's just a coordination role.
Isn't that true of the
On 23 November 2011 20:11, Chris Hostetter hossman_l...@fucit.org wrote:
: * Umbrella Projects add a layer of indirection that make it hard for the
: board to know when there are problems in the individual (sub/leaf)
: projects.
:
: * The Board needs regular status updates on all the
I will offer a theory in response to Hoss.
The incubator has a particular and critical role in the success of the
Foundations. Projects that start well are likelier to continue well.
From this, you might argue along with Hoss that the Board, burned once
by problems with delegated supervision,
On 24 November 2011 12:01, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:52 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 24 November 2011 11:34, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:00 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 November 2011
When the hot air manufacturers start ragging on us, one of the usual
tags that they paint is 'rules' and 'bureaucracy'. If you read
general@, you will see a fairly regular occurrence that feeds this
perception.
Someone poses a question about NOTICE files, or IP, or release structure.
If they are
Coordination problems (getting everyone here on the same page)
require community documentation and constant pointers to said
documentation in order to be fully resolved.
Whenever we find ourselves making contradicting statements over
time, the healthy thing to do is to put together such a
That would work for me, Bertrand...with the assumption that the
later *Champion* would be the eventual VP. I think that *has*
to happen and is consistent with what I have seen even now.
Which brings me to...what's the delta here between this proposal and
the current norm? What you describe
Good luck guys, +1 from me (binding).
Cheers,
Chris
On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:27 AM, Francis De Brabandere wrote:
Hi everyone,
The Empire-db podling joined the incubator in July 2008. Since then it has
made 6 releases following Apache guidelines, added 3 new committers,
and added 1 new PPMC
On 24 November 2011 15:18, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Coordination problems (getting everyone here on the same page)
require community documentation and constant pointers to said
documentation in order to be fully resolved.
Whenever we find ourselves making contradicting
- Original Message -
From: sebb seb...@gmail.com
To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: Does Apache Have a 'Rule' Problem, or does the Incubator
sometimes just make it look that way?
On
Hi Chris,
On Thursday, November 24, 2011, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
...Which brings me to...what's the delta here between this proposal and
the current norm? What you describe below is really the current
way it's gone for me at least IMHO, with Tika, with OODT, with Gora,
etc.
Hey Bertrand,
On Nov 24, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Hi Chris,
On Thursday, November 24, 2011, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
...Which brings me to...what's the delta here between this proposal and
the current norm? What you describe below is really the current
way
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
When the hot air manufacturers start ragging on us, one of the usual
tags that they paint is 'rules' and 'bureaucracy'. If you read
general@, you will see a fairly regular occurrence that feeds this
perception.
On Thursday, November 24, 2011, Benson Margulies wrote:
...Someone poses a question about NOTICE files, or IP, or release
structure.
If they are lucky, they get 3 disagreeing responses in short order...
ROFL - so true...
What can we do as a PMC to improve this?...
Review and improve the
My apologies for the diversion. I should not have said anything about my
direct knowledge of a champion being an IPMC member or not. Whether I knew
that or not was irrelevant to the point I wanted to make, which is now
evidently lost.
1. I find value in the idea of the original champion
I had hoped that the business of a PPMC-member champion being a VP-elect would
have just gone away. That coupling is certain to inspire political motivation
and purpose.
I think that's a terrible trick to play on a PPMC.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
On 24 November 2011 17:17, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
I had hoped that the business of a PPMC-member champion being a VP-elect
would have just gone away. That coupling is certain to inspire political
motivation and purpose.
I think that's a terrible trick to play on
On 24 November 2011 17:17, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
My apologies for the diversion. I should not have said anything about my
direct knowledge of a champion being an IPMC member or not. Whether I knew
that or not was irrelevant to the point I wanted to make, which is
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
On 24 November 2011 17:17, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
I had hoped that the business of a PPMC-member champion being a VP-elect
would have just gone away. That coupling is certain to inspire
On Nov 24, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
On 24 November 2011 17:17, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
I had hoped that the business of a PPMC-member champion being a VP-elect
would have just gone away. That coupling is certain to inspire political
motivation and
On 24 November 2011 17:34, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
On 24 November 2011 17:17, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
I had hoped that the business of a PPMC-member champion being a
I understand about PMC chairs, but I thought that is for a TLP and happens at
Podling graduation.
Having PPMC chairs is a different story, and I hope I was careful not to
confuse the two. I also don't want to collapse champion and PPMC chair in
some way. I still favor the one and not the
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
bdelacre...@apache.org wrote:
On Thursday, November 24, 2011, Benson Margulies wrote:
...Someone poses a question about NOTICE files, or IP, or release
structure.
If they are lucky, they get 3 disagreeing responses in short order...
ROFL
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Nov 24, 2011 5:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
I understand about PMC chairs, but I thought that is for a TLP and
happens at
Podling graduation.
The official role of PMC chair is created upon
+1
Am 20:59, schrieb Francis De Brabandere:
Hi everyone,
The Empire-db podling joined the incubator in July 2008. Since then it has
made 6 releases following Apache guidelines, added 3 new committers,
and added 1 new PPMC member. The community is healthy and growing,
and we've shown an ability
+1
regards,
Eike
On [Thu, 24.11.2011 07:45], Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Good luck guys, +1 from me (binding).
Cheers,
Chris
On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:27 AM, Francis De Brabandere wrote:
Hi everyone,
The Empire-db podling joined the incubator in July 2008. Since then it has
Useful, but a difficult workflow (assuming the minutes still lag the
meetings by a long way - seems true as the last 3 meetings aren't on
the site yet).
Conjecture, but I would guess that the project finish graduation
before the minutes are published. This means that the Podling members
are no
Wow, my thread got away from me. Thanks for tying all that back together
Bertrand!
+1 to this proposal, whatever they happen to be called (I find Champion a bit
weird still, but I can see how it fits - and we don't need any more acronyms).
A couple of notes:
On 23/11/2011, at 8:29 AM,
Ross,
I don't see the champion (who is at least a mentor) and an informal PPMC chair
somehow selected among the PPMC members as interchangeable or equivalent. My
concern was, to the extent that view exists (and I may simply be confused), I
don't get it.
I'd be happy to learn that I have
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Nov 25, 2011 5:41 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
Ross,
I don't see the champion (who is at least a mentor) and an informal PPMC
chair somehow selected among the PPMC members as interchangeable or
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