Re: Looking for a Champion

2013-05-07 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Tom The proposal looks pretty interesting on the technical level indeed, but when it comes to ASF it is more about building (or trying to guarantee) of community around a project so it can continue and evolve and does not die, in terms of the code being maintained and used Yes Incubator is

[danie...@apache.org: svn commit: r1479414 - /infrastructure/site/trunk/content/dev/infra-contact.mdtext]

2013-05-07 Thread Daniel Shahaf
New podlings without a website - FYI process change. See https://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-podling Daniel - Forwarded message from danie...@apache.org - > Reply-To: site-...@apache.org > Subject: svn commit: r1479414 - > /infrastructure/site/trunk/content/dev/infra-c

Incubator PMC/Board report for May 2013 ([ppmc])

2013-05-07 Thread Marvin
Dear podling, This email was sent by an automated system on behalf of the Apache Incubator PMC. It is an initial reminder to give you plenty of time to prepare your quarterly board report. The board meeting is scheduled for Wed, 15 May 2013, 10:30:00:00 PST. The report for your podling will

Re: Time for April 2013 Incubator PMC report

2013-05-07 Thread Vinod Kone
Thanks Chris! On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) < chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Hey Ben, > > Since I missed this last month, I've added a report for Mesos > based on the below to the May 2013 report, here: > > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 > > I went

Re: Would like to be added to Climate incubator group

2013-05-07 Thread Michael Joyce
Hello! I just wanted to check up on this. Is there anything I need to do to help get this resolved? Thanks much! On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Michael Joyce wrote: > Hello! > > I'm part of the Open Climate Workbench podling and need to be added to the > incubator group for commits. Can you

[VOTE] Release Curator 2.0.0-incubating

2013-05-07 Thread Jordan Zimmerman
Hello, This is a vote for the release of Apache Curator 2.0.0-incubating This has been voted on via the d...@curator.incubator.apache.org mailing list (vote thread [1], and results [2]), and now requires a vote on general@incubator.apache.org. 3 IPMC votes have already been cast on the vote he

Re: Looking for a Champion

2013-05-07 Thread Ulrich Stärk
The ASF is home to a number of web frameworks (e.g. Struts, Wicket, Tapestry, Sling, MyFaces, Click, ...). Have you thought of contributing to one of those instead of creating a completely new framework? What was the outcome? Are there cross-pollination possibilities? If your goals match with th

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread ant elder
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:56 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > Discussions on Ross' and Chris' proposals ground to a halt. > > In my view, there are real issues that drove those discussions, even if > those discussions drove some of us to distraction. > > A bit before the wiki crashed, I wrote: > > h

Re: Looking for a Champion

2013-05-07 Thread Maurizio Cucchiara
First I have to say that the project looks really interesting, even the proposal seems to me good (little side note: I think you should mention the use of cryptography [1]). I agree with what Mohammad pointed out: "Community over Code". I don't know if there are some match points between Struts an

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > ...Let's get rid of champions and shepherds and hold the mentors to their > responsibilities The problem with mentors is when you have 5 of them it's unclear who's in charge exactly. The goal of the champion's role clarification was to h

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Benson Margulies
There was a consensus to add the Champion role, and we haven't even tried it seriously, and now you propose to eliminate it. That doesn't seem reasonable to me. I'd rather try to make it useful and then evaluate it. In other words, +1 to Bertrand. 'Holding mentors to their responsibility' as a co

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Tim Williams
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > There was a consensus to add the Champion role, and we haven't even > tried it seriously, and now you propose to eliminate it. That doesn't > seem reasonable to me. I'd rather try to make it useful and then > evaluate it. In other words,

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Upayavira
The problem that most podlings I've been involved with, whilst having six mentors, have ended up with just me playing any part. On paper, it looks like these podlings are in a great place, in fact, they only have a single active mentor. What is wanted is to know who is, and who isn't active. To sp

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Tim Williams wrote: > ...I signed up to *mentor* not send silly heartbeat > checks that exist because other podling's mentors failed to live up to > their responsibility... 0 0 1 * * echo "Hi, the FOO podling is alive." | mail -s "Hi folks" general@incubator.apac

Re: Would like to be added to Climate incubator group

2013-05-07 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 11:15:06AM -0700, Michael Joyce wrote: > Hello! > > I just wanted to check up on this. Is there anything I need to do to help > get this resolved? > > Thanks much! Have you asked on your dev@ list? > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Michael Joyce wrote: > > > Hel

Re: Would like to be added to Climate incubator group

2013-05-07 Thread Suresh Marru
On May 6, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Michael Joyce wrote: > Hello! > > I just wanted to check up on this. Is there anything I need to do to help > get this resolved? > > Thanks much! > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Michael Joyce wrote: > >> Hello! >> >> I'm part of the Open Climate Workbench

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Noah Slater
On 7 May 2013 16:55, Upayavira wrote: > I guess that could be automated (grep through mail > archives for mentor email addresses each month), but until that > happens[...] > This could be done in a one-off fashion with a simple sh pipe. I'm not fond of to addressing social problems with technolo

[jira] [Commented] (PODLINGNAMESEARCH-28) Establish whether "Apache Curator" is a suitable name

2013-05-07 Thread Jordan Zimmerman (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-28?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13651174#comment-13651174 ] Jordan Zimmerman commented on PODLINGNAMESEARCH-28: --- Can this

Re: Looking for a Champion

2013-05-07 Thread Tom Everett
Hi Mohammad I'd be quite happy for your assistance. I haven't made a significant effort to build a community around Pragmatach, mainly because I'm not familiar with how to announce it, where, and to whom. Is there any assistance you can offer with that? On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:25 AM, Mohammad N

Re: Looking for a Champion

2013-05-07 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi Tom On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Tom Everett wrote: > Hi Mohammad I'd be quite happy for your assistance. I haven't made a > significant effort to build a community around Pragmatach, mainly because > I'm not familiar with how to announce it, where, and to whom. Is there any > assistance

Re: Looking for a Champion

2013-05-07 Thread Tom Everett
Hi Ulrich, thanks for replying. My response will be a little longer here, but I think you've asked a really important question, so perhaps it deserves a good answer. I have personal experience implementing sites with Stuts2 and MyFaces. I did look at Click, and I have some experience with Sling,

Re: Looking for a Champion

2013-05-07 Thread Tom Everett
No problem. Perhaps Google Groups? https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/pragmatach-framework On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din < nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tom > > > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Tom Everett wrote: > > > Hi Mohammad I'd be quite ha

Re: Looking for a Champion

2013-05-07 Thread Tom Everett
Hey, thanks for replying and for the feedback. I've added you as a committer and perhaps we can carry on this chat on Google Groups https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/pragmatach-framework On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Maurizio Cucchiara wrote: > First I have to say that the pr

A lot of reports missing these period

2013-05-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Folks, its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing! http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 Ambari Blur DeltaSpike (hasn't it graduated?) Droids Falcon Hadoop Development Tools MRQL Open Climate Workbench Provisionr Tajo Tez Please mentors of these projects catch up with your p

Re: A lot of reports missing these period

2013-05-07 Thread Alan Cabrera
How odd. I don't think that MRQL received the notice from Marvin. Regards, Alan On May 7, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Folks, > > its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing! > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 > > Ambari > Blur > DeltaSpike (hasn't

[VOTE] Release JSPWiki version 2.9.1-incubating (2nd RC)

2013-05-07 Thread Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez
Hi all, We've held a vote on jspwiki-dev for a 2nd RC of Apache JSPWiki 2.9.1-incubating [#1]. The vote on release candidate has been open for more than 72 hours on the developer mailing list. After the voting timeframe, we have 3 non-binding votes (from jspwiki developers). I'd therefore like t

Re: A lot of reports missing these period

2013-05-07 Thread Chris Douglas
Falcon and Tez reported in April. -C On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Folks, > > its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing! > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 > > Ambari > Blur > DeltaSpike (hasn't it graduated?) > Droids > Falcon > Hadoop De

Re: A lot of reports missing these period

2013-05-07 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
Hey Christian, My guess is that since the wiki was down these slipped. I know that I plan on producing reports by end of week and getting them up there ASAP for my podlings. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Sc

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Ross Gardler
On 7 May 2013 08:56, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Tim Williams wrote: >> ...I signed up to *mentor* not send silly heartbeat >> checks that exist because other podling's mentors failed to live up to >> their responsibility... > > 0 0 1 * * echo "Hi, the FOO podli

Re: A lot of reports missing these period

2013-05-07 Thread Chris Douglas
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: > My guess is that since the wiki was down these slipped. > > I know that I plan on producing reports by end of week and getting them > up there ASAP for my podlings. Ah, right; those were added after the report was generated. I copi

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Noah Slater
Not really. It's a heartbeat/health-check like any other distributed, unreliable system. I was tempted to say it's a social implementation of STONITH, but that might send the wrong message. ;) On 8 May 2013 00:53, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 7 May 2013 08:56, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > On Tue

Re: A lot of reports missing these period

2013-05-07 Thread David Crossley
Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Folks, > > its reporting time and at the wiki are a lot of them missing! > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/May2013 > > Ambari > Blur > DeltaSpike (hasn't it graduated?) The Voting Status page indicates that they have not finalised their graduation vote, nor commence

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Greg Stein
On a whole different direction, one way to "scale" is to shift from Incubator-managed podlings to Board-managed. The podling would effectively be a "TLP on probation". The Champion, Mentors, and Board would be providing oversight. I would posit that the Board is more capable of oversight than the

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (398J)
I would posit the exact same thing. +1 my friend. This has been my whole point all along. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mails

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 7, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> ...Let's get rid of champions and shepherds and hold the mentors to their >> responsibilities > > The problem with mentors is when you have 5 of them it's unclear who's > in cha

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 7, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On a whole different direction, one way to "scale" is to shift from > Incubator-managed podlings to Board-managed. The podling would > effectively be a "TLP on probation". The Champion, Mentors, and Board > would be providing oversight. > > I woul

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Joseph Schaefer
You go girl! Spot on. Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2013, at 12:54 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > > On May 7, 2013, at 4:03 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > >> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >>> ...Let's get rid of champions and shepherds and hold the mentors to their >>

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: > > On May 7, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> On a whole different direction, one way to "scale" is to shift from >> Incubator-managed podlings to Board-managed. The podling would >> effectively be a "TLP on probation". The Champion, M

Re: [META DISCUSS] talking about the overall state of this PMC

2013-05-07 Thread Alan Cabrera
On May 7, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Alan Cabrera wrote: >> >> On May 7, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >> >>> On a whole different direction, one way to "scale" is to shift from >>> Incubator-managed podlings to Board-managed. The podling wo