I think also that we should contact and notifying them
Alin
-Original Message-
From: Dave Fisher
Sent: den 17 januari 2020 04:10
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: How to subscribe (was: Incubator PMC members not subscribed to
private list)
Hi -
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>
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> On Jan 16, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> I think that without an explicit resignation they must remain IPMC members.
>
> That's what I was saying. But in that case do they need to be on the roster?
Yes, the roster is the source of record of
Hi,
> I think that without an explicit resignation they must remain IPMC members.
That's what I was saying. But in that case do they need to be on the roster?
> I’m for contacting and asking, but not for forcing.
OK. They where contacted and asked a week ago and will contacted and ask again.
Hi -
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> On Jan 16, 2020, at 6:56 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> Only the Board can remove members from a PMC, and "lack of activity" not
>> one they typically support.
>
> +1 We are not considering removing inactive IPMC members, they can ask be be
> removed if
Hi,
> Only the Board can remove members from a PMC, and "lack of activity" not
> one they typically support.
+1 We are not considering removing inactive IPMC members, they can ask be be
removed if that want to be, but until then we’re happy to have them.
In the case of people asking to be
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:59 AM Nathan Hartman
wrote:
>...
> This should be documented clearly under expectations from IPMC members. If
> there is a period of inactivity after which IPMC members will be removed,
> then people should know this up front.
>
Only the Board can remove members from a
Hi,
> This should be documented clearly under expectations from IPMC members.
It is an expectation that all PMC members sign up to their private mailing
list, that applies to all projects not just the Incubator.
When you joined the IPMC you should of received a welcome message [1] which
Hi,
> If Justin's still volunteering for this (thanks!)
Yep I am.
> If they aren't on private@, they're not actively providing oversight.
And that’s the issue. They should be signed up general@ as well as most things
go in there.
In the email that was sent out to them all, how to subscribe
HI,
> That would work for me, after sending them a warning that this is
> going to happen.
>
> We probably have many inactive PMC members - Whimsy lists 298 of them
> and 46 podlings so I suppose we don't have more than 100 PMC members
> actually active.
I’m not sure how many are PPMC
Hi,
> Couple of apparent problems with the PGP signature:
>
> (1) Shouldn't it be visible from the download page?
It is [1] (apache-milagro-crypto-c-2.0.1-incubating-src.tar.gz.asc)
> (2) I wasn't able to establish a chain of trust.
That a nice to have not a requirement for a release. And
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 10:14 AM Shane Curcuru wrote:
> If Justin's still volunteering for this (thanks!), I suggest sending one
> last reminder to people not subscribed (with the above link), wait a
> week, and then remove those still not subscribed from the IPMC. If they
> aren't on private@,
Reminder: this Whimsy tool for committers can subscribe/unsubscribe you
from almost any list that you're allowed to subscribe to (i.e. including
PPMC lists or private@ if you have permissions for them)
https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe
Justin Mclean wrote on 2020-1-9 7:47PM EST:
>
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> On Jan 16, 2020, at 4:48 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:25 AM Justin Mclean
>> wrote:
>> ...Do we want to consider the drastic step of removing all IPMC from the PMC
>> who are not signed
>> up to the private mailing
Hi Ning,
I think I recall that I woke up one morning to find four subscription requests
from you. It could have been someone else. All requests to private-subscribe
need a human response to an email to the moderators. The moderator then must
respond to the most recent request. Multiple
Hi -
I signed up to moderate private@incubator sometime last year. I’ve confirmed
many subscriptions since. This includes several in the past week.
In order to help their podlings Mentors need to understand moderation in order
to establish the podling PPMC properly.
Doing a search on
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:41 AM Trevor Grant
wrote:
> @Greg, I would echo Ning's point.
>
I saw Ning's post before my own response, and (frankly) have little
sympathy. Email exists to ask questions and solve problems. "I can't get
subscribed. Please help" is very easy to send. If a member of
On Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:25:35 +
John McCane-Whitney wrote:
> Hi,
Apologies for the round tuit coming so late here.
>
> This is a call to vote on the release of the Apache Milagro
> (incubating) Crypto C Library v2.0.1
>
>
@Greg, I would echo Ning's point.
I've been trying to be an active mentor- and found that I am deficient in
most, if not all, of the technical things I need to be doing (like signed
up for mailing lists) bc no one ever told me.
The first whiff that something was wrong we had an email to
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:25 AM Justin Mclean wrote:
> ...Do we want to consider the drastic step of removing all IPMC from the PMC
> who are not signed
> up to the private mailing list? They could re-instated themselves by
> subscribing to the private list...
That would work for me,
In the past, I've made my position clear: if an IPMC member cannot be
bothered to get themselves subscribed to the private list, then they are
not providing appropriate oversight, and (thus) should be removed from the
PMC. They can continue to contribute via the general@ list, but lose their
Hi,
It took me a few months before successfully signed up the private@ mailng
list after Josh told me the trick (go to
https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe and subscribe there) :(
I am feeling that many of these people might have tried the normal way
(sending a subscribe email to
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