Re: possible interest in forming a community fork of akka

2022-09-27 Thread Ralph Goers
+1 to everything Greg says, although I wouldn’t consider it to be a hostile fork just as I don’t consider the fork of Hudson to Jenkins to be a hostile fork. In my book it isn’t a hostile fork when the major contributors simply switch to the new repository and infrastructure. i.e - if the

Re: possible interest in forming a community fork of akka

2022-09-27 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 4:55 AM PJ Fanning wrote: >... > In some cases, the critical fix might be submitted to the fork first > and it may be easier for the Lightbend team to cherry pick those cases > than it is for the fork team to do the opposite. > Should an ALv2 fork arise *anywhere*[1],

Re: [Discuss] Baremaps Proposal

2022-09-27 Thread Josh Fischer
+1. Count me in On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 5:55 PM Julian Hyde wrote: > When I mentor a project (as I have volunteered to do for Baremaps) I > usually host a Zoom meeting with the initial contributors explaining what > really goes on during Incubation. I totally agree that learning the Apache >

Re: [Discuss] Baremaps Proposal

2022-09-27 Thread Julian Hyde
When I mentor a project (as I have volunteered to do for Baremaps) I usually host a Zoom meeting with the initial contributors explaining what really goes on during Incubation. I totally agree that learning the Apache Way and making releases are key activities. I usually invite other

Re: [Discuss] Baremaps Proposal

2022-09-27 Thread Josh Fischer
I think we should call out in the proposal of initial goals is learn the apache way how to make releases within the foundation. There is much to learn in the incubating process. On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 12:22 PM Josh Fischer wrote: > +1. Happy to talk anytime. > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at

Re: [Discuss] Baremaps Proposal

2022-09-27 Thread Josh Fischer
+1. Happy to talk anytime. On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 11:29 AM Bertil Chapuis wrote: > Hi Josh, > > Glad you are interested in the project, I added you to the list of > committers in the proposal. > > I hope to learn more about your Web mapping use cases soon. > > Best, > > Bertil > > > > > > On

Re: possible interest in forming a community fork of akka

2022-09-27 Thread Austin Bennett
This seems needed given the state of Lightbend/licensing. Agreed with Roman's sentiment, though getting Lightbend to change at this point seems unlikely [ also, I don't have direct contacts there so am not well positioned to try to negotiate any changes ]. Glad to see people coming together

Re: [Discuss] Baremaps Proposal

2022-09-27 Thread Bertil Chapuis
Hi Josh, Glad you are interested in the project, I added you to the list of committers in the proposal. I hope to learn more about your Web mapping use cases soon. Best, Bertil > On 27 Sep 2022, at 04:03, Josh Fischer wrote: > > Hi Bertil, > > I’d be happy to contribute if you’re

Re: possible interest in forming a community fork of akka

2022-09-27 Thread Claude Warren, Jr
PJ, Several of us working on the mdedetrich github projects [1] are preparing to submit a proposal to the incubator, hopefully by the end of the week. We have had contact from several individual devlopers, organizations, projects, and companies about such a project. We identified a champion and

Re: possible interest in forming a community fork of akka

2022-09-27 Thread PJ Fanning
Thanks Willem for taking the time to look into this. The license change means the fork project will not be able to cherry pick future fixes from Lightbend - at least not readily. On a case by case basis, we could request that the PR submitter also contribute them to the fork project. In some

Re: possible interest in forming a community fork of akka

2022-09-27 Thread tison
Hi PJ, Thanks for driving this discussion! As mentioned above, Lightbend switched the license from upstream and we simply _cannot_ backport code from there any longer. However, it's reasonable to me that we start a new project based on the latest APL-2.0 licensed version (forked) to save users

Re: possible interest in forming a community fork of akka

2022-09-27 Thread PJ Fanning
Thanks Ralph for looking at this. It is early days but a number of people have expressed an interest in joining the new community. https://github.com/mdedetrich/akka-apache-project/discussions/3 There are some former Lightbend employees and some very active contributors. Most of the people

Re: possible interest in forming a community fork of akka

2022-09-27 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi PJ! Thanks for moving the discussion to this list! For completeness' sake -- let me repeat the comments I made on the legal one: On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 9:12 PM PJ Fanning wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Apologies if this is not the right mailing list. If it is not, please > let me know and I'll

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for Datark

2022-09-27 Thread Kaijie Chen
Hi Yu, Thanks for your explanation. Yes it makes sense. It's nice we can see the migration process in the community. And it will probably help create better docs for the project. Best, Kaijie On 2022/09/27 06:05:10 Yu Li wrote: > Hi BLAST and Kaijie, > > Yes, we've done quite some work on

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for Datark

2022-09-27 Thread tison
Hi Gabriel, Thanks for your explanation! Best, tison. Gabriel Lee 于2022年9月27日周二 16:25写道: > Hi Tison, > > Thanks for your curiosity. > > To be clear, as I know, RSS[1] was born in 2019 and has grown rapidly from > then. RSS was open-sourced in Dec, 2021 [2]. But before this, RSS has > already

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for Datark

2022-09-27 Thread Gabriel Lee
Hi Tison, Thanks for your curiosity. To be clear, as I know, RSS[1] was born in 2019 and has grown rapidly from then. RSS was open-sourced in Dec, 2021 [2]. But before this, RSS has already become a commercialized product on Alibaba Cloud EMR and attracts lots of attention from cloud customers.

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for Datark

2022-09-27 Thread tison
Hi Gabriel, > Datark became a popular remote shuffle service in the past few years and > I'm very glad to see it will be one of us soon. Out of curiosity, I can see the history of this project starts from Dec. 2021. How can it be a popular solution for years? Best, tison. Yu Li 于2022年9月27日周二

Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for Datark

2022-09-27 Thread Yu Li
Hi BLAST and Kaijie, Yes, we've done quite some work on merging the two rss projects (or more accurately, try to extract the high-level architecture and interfaces to form a more general framework) but still not fully completed. However, on second thought, we feel incubating the project first and