Re: [RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:20:26 -0500 (EST) Rich Bowen wrote: When a skilled worker goes to work for a new company, they go through a period of probation to ensure that they fit in the new company. This does not question their skills, it merely ensures that the person fits into the new company.

Re: [RT] Learning from the facts ( Re: Undermining the Incubator )

2004-01-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 18:28:42 -0500 Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: I'm still completely unclear what objection Andy is raising. being completely serious, i think andy is not being entirely rational on the subject. he is/was violently opposed to geronimo, Okay. This sentence really makes

Re: [VOTE] Granting committer status to log4net developers

2004-01-12 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
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Committership in specified duration

2004-01-12 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
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Re: PPMCs and oversight

2003-12-31 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
wanted to describe such expectations .. to be encapsulized in the word, MENTOR. Before we perceive the definitions of the *responsibilities* of the MENTOR role, I'd like to see the REAL MENTORING coach's behaviours. You all can do it. Yay. I hope your happy new year. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata

[RT] We are under incubation icon

2003-12-23 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Hello, From the conversation here, it came to my mind that it would be nice to create We are under incubation icon, which (sub)projects being incubated **should** use on their websites. If We are under incubation icon would be really nice, each (sub)projects wouldn't have to be resides in

Re: [RT] We are under incubation icon

2003-12-23 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
PROTECTED]) On Dec 23, 2003, at 10:35 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Hello, From the conversation here, it came to my mind that it would be nice to create We are under incubation icon, which (sub)projects being incubated **should** use on their websites. If We are under

Re: It's official: Nicola Ken Barozzi is Incubator PMC Chair

2003-10-30 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
this in your mind. Happy incubation! :-) Cheers, -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache Software Foundation Committer: http

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 24139] New: - Reply-To: Headerline info of jaxme-dev@ws.apache.org mailing list

2003-10-27 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
. This is a *BIG* problem (obstacle) in the creation of the communities in apache. http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24138 http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24139 Thank you for reading. *sigh* - Tetsuya

Re: Common naming accross policy/process/roles

2003-10-26 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 14:49:39 +1000 (Subject: Common naming accross policy/process/roles) Berin Lautenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Champion (was Sponsor) - the Apache Member (or member of a Sponsoring PMC) who champions a new candidate prior to being accepted by a Sponsor. Sponsor (was

Re: Proposal: Sponsor becomes Mentor

2003-10-21 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Ahhh What I would like to have seen was not * Sponsor * Shepherd styled category of entities, but * Mentor * Coach (Coacher?) styled category of entities. Horay! That's incubation. :-) -- Tetsuya [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- P.S. I have not been able to interpret podling into japanese

Re: Disclaimer text for incubated projects

2003-10-05 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
RoUS said, People often lost the precious e-mails due to the current Here SPAM There SPAM Everywhere SPAM, SPAM oh, you mean like all the 'apache newsletter' messages i've received on just about every single asf list i'm on? grin/ Iyaannn :-) Apparently they were not

Re: Auto-update of incubator site

2003-10-04 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
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Re: jUDDI - incubation status?

2003-10-04 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
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Re: Disclaimer text for incubated projects

2003-10-03 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:00:57 -0400 Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judging from the move we made with james, CVS was easy. ezmlm a bit more involved, but our users seemed to find us easily enough when the list address changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moving the

Re: technology sucks

2003-10-03 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Hi, On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:02:59 +0200 Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm the moderator there, and I didn't see your mail. I apologise for missing it, it was not intentional. Sorry. Okay, then can the config of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] be changed? When? Who? How?

Re: Mentor vs. Shepherd

2003-10-03 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
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Re: Mentor vs. Shepherd

2003-10-03 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 19:46:21 -0700 (Subject: Re: Mentor vs. Shepherd) Roy T. Fielding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ASF loves the Greek Myth :-) Mentor was Odysseus's good teacher and mental supporter. I prefer Mentor to Shepherd. Er, the ASF rarely speaks with one voice -- Stefano loves the

Re: Disclaimer text for incubated projects

2003-10-03 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
that wsrp4j people fix those pages. ASAP. The project's arrival in the Incubator is suspect enough, so I'm not really all that willing to give it slack. Fix it or it gets yanked. -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/ --- Tetsuya Kitahata

Re: Disclaimer text for incubated projects

2003-10-03 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
(CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 04:39:00 -0700 Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, please take a glance at http://ws.apache.org/ ... note section. snip/ But what pisses me off the most is that I raised this about wsrp4j a couple weeks ago, but it wasn't fixed. Aha,

Re: Disclaimer text for incubated projects

2003-10-03 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Confirmed. Really great job! (Otsukare sama desita) -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. I think you can change the URL of the link to Pluto (@ left-side navi on wsrp4j project website): http://jakarta.apache.org/pluto/ On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 05:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (Subject: Re: Disclaimer text for

[Apache Newsletter Draft] News as to Incubator Project from Aug. to Sep.

2003-10-01 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
/newsletter/200307.html I am waiting your contributions. Please e-mail to me [EMAIL PROTECTED] whensoever you have a question about this newsletter. Hope to hear from you Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. In this two months, there were a lot of proposals and developments

Re: Request for Guidance

2003-09-30 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
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Re: roles and responsibilities

2003-09-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 08:39:20 -0400 (Subject: Re: roles and responsibilities) Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) isn't the incubation more an oversight group, a task force, then a project? you seem to be harking back to 'projects produce code'. i disagree with that

Re: technology sucks

2003-09-22 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:44:05 -0400 (Subject: RE: technology sucks) Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your comment (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgNo=41) was about a Reply-To header. Oh, yes. yes. *** NOTE *** Lists without Reply-To Header would be sure to

Re: ASF member role - accountable to whom

2003-09-21 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:21:07 +0200 Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, do not post stats of any kind to say something about merit. Okay, Sander. I will not. I promise. By the way, Same for posts; it's quality and quantity. And stats don't measure quality. How can you measure

Re: ASF member role - accountable to whom

2003-09-21 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:30:37 +0200 (Subject: RE: ASF member role - accountable to whom) Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 6:16 AM I see. but here's one question. Does this meritocracy encourage

Re: ASF member role - accountable to whom

2003-09-21 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:28:06 +0200 Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might look, admittedly, strange that an ASF officer is not an ASF member, but for the PMC chair role, the person has been selected because he cares very much about one project: this doesn't make the person

Re: ASF member role - accountable to whom

2003-09-21 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 10:12:17 -0400 Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Statistics would not tell a lie. No prejudice, no favoritism. Actually, in the USA we have a famous expression: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics. Statistics provide a false sense of objectivity. Ahaha. ROTFL.

Re: ASF member role - accountable to whom

2003-09-20 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
. Oliver|acoliverATapache.org |2003-08-22| 144| Nicola Ken Barozzi |nicolakenATapache.org|2003-09-19| 142| Rodent of Unusual Si|coarATapache.org |2003-09-21| 141| Greg Stein |gsteinATapache.org |2003-09-19| 68| Tetsuya Kitahata

Re: ASF member role - accountable to whom

2003-09-20 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:49:24 -0400 (Subject: RE: ASF member role - accountable to whom) Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meritocracy? Here is a good stats on this ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) mailing list. Excuse me, but volume of messages has nothing to do with merit. Statistics would

Re: ASF member role - accountable to whom

2003-09-20 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 22:25:53 -0400 Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Meritocracy? yes, meritocracy. the entire asf is a meritocracy, as is each project within it. I see. but here's one question. Does this meritocracy encourage the inactive *ASF

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-19 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:27:52 +0200 Jochen Wiedmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea of the organisational rationale behind the desire for more TLP's. Personally I have serious doubts that it is a good decision: AFAIK any TLP is sending his chair to the board, and I do not believe,

Re: [PROPOSAL] PMC Vote to incubate Directory Project

2003-09-19 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think that the quietness of [EMAIL PROTECTED] is due to the TLP expansion? No, I think its due to the fact that Jakarta is (IMHO) a group of communities that often have overlapping memberships, not

RSS and Apache NEWS (Re: Why top level is good for you)

2003-09-19 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
@ infrastructure mailing list. cf. http://nagoya.apache.org/poi/news/ I (The Apache Newsletter Issuer/Editor) can also make use of it. Cheers, __ Tetsuya [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ --- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: RSS and Apache NEWS (Re: Why top level is good for you)

2003-09-19 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:34:49 -0400 Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cf. http://nagoya.apache.org/poi/news/ POI News page is hit roughly a dozen times an hour, which is actually far more often than I would have imagined. I haven't looked to see how many of those hits are from

Re: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)

2003-09-18 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:18:16 -0400 (Subject: RE: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)) Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that Nicola Ken Coar would do a fine job as PMC Chair. ;-) ;-) Ok, name games aside, I honestly don't know if Ken or Nicola Ken have any

Re: XNode 1.1 API submission

2003-09-18 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
a power of good. __ Tetsuya [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 14:58:26 +0100 (Subject: Re: XNode 1.1 API submission) Murray Altheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Hi! Please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ASFProposalPages and create a *nice

Re: [VOTE] New Chair (Re: cvs commit : incubator STATUS)

2003-09-17 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:15:43 -0400 Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 09:14 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: I'd like to put my sincere plus one as the New Chair of the Apache Incubator Project To [ ] Nicola Ken Barozzi [ ] Ken Coar [ ] Paul

Re: Geronimo

2003-08-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
They can read the archives via http://incubator.apache.org/mail/general/ and I think KenCoar has already requested infra team to let it (this list) visible via eyebrowse (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/). -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 5 Aug 2003 23:21:24 +0200 (Subject: Re: Geronimo)

Re: Update needed to http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html (was RE: Project involvement)

2003-08-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:52 PM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: snip/ P.S. Also, I think this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html is better to be slightly changed. XMLBeans: http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/ ;-) Good catch, Tetsuya -- thanks

Re: Project involvement

2003-08-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
cluttering up too much. Is someone from infrastructure@ already working on setting up this stuff? - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http

Re: Project involvement

2003-08-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
I have the same opinion, however, I am not a committer of incubator project. The only one thing I could do was to put this news to jakarta website. (With the mail address for the subscription) http://jakarta.apache.org/ http://jakarta.apache.org/site/elsewhere.html#20030805.1 It will be shown

Re: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News from Incubator sub/projects in July, 2003

2003-08-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
What do you say to write an article of Apache Geronimo? ;-) -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 17:40:28 +0900 (Subject: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News from Incubator sub/projects in July, 2003) Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, All (Apache Incubator General

Re: LOGGING TLP (Re: request for feedback on usage log management)

2003-08-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
issues ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) At 09:41 AM 8/6/2003 +0900, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: I am wondering how it would be if the i18n TLP project (not yet proposed) can tightly build up a closer connection with logging TLP ... because all the commercial products have the error/log messages in each native

Re: Invitation to participate in Apache J2EE efforts

2003-08-09 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
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Re: *REMINDER* last call for july newsletter

2003-08-08 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
/geronimo.html#FAQ;FAQ/a /p Ken. -- Ken Kress [EMAIL PROTECTED] SAS, The Bank of New York484.605.4834 Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/08/2003 12:46 AM Please respond to general To: [EMAIL

[Apache Newsletter Draft] News from Incubator sub/projects in July, 2003

2003-08-01 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
a note). http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. Contributions from anyone are cordially invited!! - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E

Re: XMLBean project creation request

2003-07-29 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:19:43 -0700 (Subject: XMLBean project creation request) Ted Leung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ ~ V. Message Trailer[X] yes [ ] no ~ (a). [EMAIL PROTECTED] =(CUT HERE)== -

Re: XMLBean project creation request

2003-07-29 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:58:51 +0200 (Subject: RE: XMLBean project creation request) Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tetsuya Kitahata [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:57 PM By the way, I think this url http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/ is not yet

Re: [VOTE] Policy for incubating project resources (was Re: xmlbeans project )

2003-07-25 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:14:04 +0200 Sander Striker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ] project-subproject CVS [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm 0 on both suggestions. Go with this one for now*. And lets not delay kicking off a project for this for too

Re: [VOTE] Policy for incubating project resources (was Re: xmlbeans project )

2003-07-25 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:27:13 +0900 Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ e.g. The XXX pmc has agreed to accept the YYY project for incubation. To aid in the process, Please create these below: [1

Re: Release and download link

2003-06-20 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
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Re: basicPortal to incubator

2003-06-05 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
. Just my 0.02 EUR, if any Lenyatic wants to chime in, please do. Just my 2 Yen ;-) -- Andy, Steven, thanks a lot. I am just learning... P.S. How about Yoga in Mt. Fuji next time, Andy? ;-) - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E

Re: basicPortal to incubator

2003-06-05 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
name ;-) - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com

Re: basicPortal to incubator

2003-06-04 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
:06 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have one question. If Vic Cekvenich will hunt some projects similar (from the point of view of using Tomcat and Struts, JSTL) to his project, can he form a new top project? (e.g. Jerry Project -- basicPortal under Jerry Project

Re: basicPortal to incubator

2003-06-04 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
kind of mentors in the process of incubation this might be applied to new committers as well as new projects. In Poi's case, who was the mentor? Nikola Ken?? Do these above make sense? - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail

Re: basicPortal to incubator

2003-06-04 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
fallout?? Maybe I will need a nuclear shelter... to survive ;-) - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: basicPortal to incubator

2003-06-03 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
you are able to create an interest... Good luck! Sander - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tetsuya