Re: Is SVN considered a Release? (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try))

2009-04-22 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:43 PM, sebb wrote: > On 17/04/2009, ant elder wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >>  >> And that matches "What is a release?" in the ASF Releases FAQ (although >> SVN >>  >> its not explicitly mentioned): >> http://www.apache.org/dev/

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-19 Thread Santiago Gala
El vie, 17-04-2009 a las 16:22 -0700, Upayavira escribió: > On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 10:48 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sebb wrote: > > > > > As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN > > > repository is considered as distribution too. > > >

SVN and distribution (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try))

2009-04-17 Thread sebb
org > > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try) > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 10:48 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sebb wrote: > > > > > > > > > As far

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-17 Thread Upayavira
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 10:18 +1000, Gavin wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Upayavira [mailto:u...@odoko.co.uk] > > Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2009 9:23 AM > > To: general@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-17 Thread Gavin
> -Original Message- > From: Upayavira [mailto:u...@odoko.co.uk] > Sent: Saturday, 18 April 2009 9:23 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try) > > On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 10:48 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-17 Thread Upayavira
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 10:48 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sebb wrote: > > > As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN > > repository is considered as distribution too. > > No, I am very positive that this is not the case. Legal dilligence is

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-17 Thread Todd Volkert
We got 4 votes, all in favor, and of which 3 are binding. Ant Elder Sebb (non-binding) Niclas Hedhman Martijn Dashorst The vote passes. I will copy the artifacts to Pivot's dist area and update our documentation site to make the download.cgi page live after the mirrors have picked the artifacts

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 publish On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Todd Volkert wrote: > > [x] +1 Publish > > > Cheers > -- > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java > > I  live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er > I  work her

Re: Is SVN considered a Release? (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try))

2009-04-17 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:43 PM, sebb wrote: > Two extracts: > > 1) "Releases are, by definition, anything that is published beyond the > group that owns it." > > 2 )"All releases are in the form of the source materials needed to > make changes to the software being released." > > Point (2) defin

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-17 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Todd Volkert wrote: [x] +1 Publish Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug -

Is SVN considered a Release? (was: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try))

2009-04-17 Thread sebb
On 17/04/2009, ant elder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:59 PM, ant elder wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Niclas Hedhman > wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sebb wrote: > >>> > >>> > As far as I

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-17 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:59 PM, ant elder wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sebb wrote: >>> >>> > As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN >>> >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-17 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:59 PM, ant elder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sebb wrote: >> >> > As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN >> > repository is considered as distribution too. >> >> No, I am ve

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-17 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 3:48 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sebb wrote: > > > As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN > > repository is considered as distribution too. > > No, I am very positive that this is not the case. Legal dilligence is >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:07 PM, sebb wrote: > As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN > repository is considered as distribution too. No, I am very positive that this is not the case. Legal dilligence is done on the release artifacts separately from SVN issues. Unlike rel

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 17/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > > AFAICS the archives look OK, so no objections from me. > > > Not to be a pain, but is that a +1? :) > +1 > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For addi

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> AFAICS the archives look OK, so no objections from me. Not to be a pain, but is that a +1? :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > Ok, per the recommendations on the legal-discuss thread and here (and > just to make sure we're fully in keeping with the spirit of ASF > policies), I've removed the offending files from the tag (and copied s/tag/branch/ ? > the branch to the tag), which c

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
>> p.s. on the trunk, we've just migrated the demos sub-project and the >> JFreeChart provider off of the ASF repository for good > >Were they license incompatible? I'd really like to have demos at the ASF, >not just the core code. But they should be demos that the project is >willing to maintain

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> Ok, per the recommendations on the legal-discuss thread and here (and > just to make sure we're fully in keeping with the spirit of ASF > policies), I've removed the offending files from the tag Just ones that actually are license incompatible? > (and copied the branch to the tag) Yes, thank y

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
Ok, per the recommendations on the legal-discuss thread and here (and just to make sure we're fully in keeping with the spirit of ASF policies), I've removed the offending files from the tag (and copied the branch to the tag), which can be found at: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/pivot/

RE: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
sebb wrote: > The SVN branch contains lots of .settings directories which are > Eclipse-specific; these aren't normally added to SVN as they tend to > vary between Eclipse installations. I think they should be deleted > from SVN. The .project and .classpath files may also vary, but are > less of a

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200904.mbox/browser Summary: (a) Some consider SVN to be part of your distribution, and some don't, so there's no true resolution there (b) Per http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#transition-incubator, this weighs on us less because we

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> We don't have any LGPL libraries in the distribution - only in SVN, for some > demos that aren't actually included in the distribution artifacts. Or dependencies of any kind, for that mater. The actual *release* is compliant with ASF's policies. If our SVN repository is not, that will be fixe

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
>There are rules as to what 3rd party dependencies are allowed. > >For example, LGPL dependencies cannot be included in distributions; >furthermore, any such dependencies must be optional. That is not >something that can be fixed later. We don't have any LGPL libraries in the distribution - only i

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, ant elder wrote: > On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: > > > Actually, it occurs to me that since the distribution archives don't > > have the offending code, we should be able to release 1.1 as packaged > > (pending the vote), and if legal-discuss says that we

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: > Actually, it occurs to me that since the distribution archives don't > have the offending code, we should be able to release 1.1 as packaged > (pending the vote), and if legal-discuss says that we need to remove > that stuff from SVN, that ca

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
Actually, it occurs to me that since the distribution archives don't have the offending code, we should be able to release 1.1 as packaged (pending the vote), and if legal-discuss says that we need to remove that stuff from SVN, that can be done after the fact. -T On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN > repository is considered as distribution too. > > Please check this, e.g. on legal-discuss. FYI, I have a question pending to legal-discuss - I'll post the answer here when I hear back. -

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> I've just tried a build on Win/XP, Java 1.6.0. > > This reports quite a few compilation warnings, for example: > >    [javac] wtk\src\pivot\wtk\content\TreeViewFileRenderer.java:34: > warning: sun.awt.shell.ShellFolder >  is Sun proprietary API and may be removed in a future release >    [javac]

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
>I've just tried a build on Win/XP, Java 1.6.0. > >This reports quite a few compilation warnings, for example: > >[javac] wtk\src\pivot\wtk\content\TreeViewFileRenderer.java:34: >warning: sun.awt.shell.ShellFolder > is Sun proprietary API and may be removed in a future release ... >Does Pivot o

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 14/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > Incubator PMC members: > > I've addressed the concerns brought up in the first vote and have > re-rolled the distribution archives with the fixes. Specifically, > here's what changed since the last vote: > > * Changed the JDK 1.5 system requirement in the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> As far as I know, putting a file in a publicly accessible SVN > repository is considered as distribution too. > > Please check this, e.g. on legal-discuss. Yep - I was just subscribing to legal-discuss right now to get an official answer :) --

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > > The SVN branch contains lots of .settings directories which are > > Eclipse-specific; these aren't normally added to SVN as they tend to > > vary between Eclipse installations. I think they should be deleted > > from SVN. The .project and .classpath files

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> The SVN branch contains lots of .settings directories which are > Eclipse-specific; these aren't normally added to SVN as they tend to > vary between Eclipse installations. I think they should be deleted > from SVN. The .project and .classpath files may also vary, but are > less of a problem. We

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, sebb wrote: > On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > > > > What's the SVN tag for the release? > > > > > > It's useful to be able to compare the source archive with SVN to check > > > if there are any missing or extraneous files. > > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/i

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
On 16/04/2009, Todd Volkert wrote: > > What's the SVN tag for the release? > > > > It's useful to be able to compare the source archive with SVN to check > > if there are any missing or extraneous files. > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/pivot/branches/1.1/ > > I plan to copy thi

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
> What's the SVN tag for the release? > > It's useful to be able to compare the source archive with SVN to check > if there are any missing or extraneous files. http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/pivot/branches/1.1/ I plan to copy this to tags once the release gets approved (since until th

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Greg Brown
>One minor problem I noticed: the LICENSE file contains some odd >characters towards the end which don't display well. Looks like it is encoded in UTF-8 for some reason (the others appear to use standard ASCII). We can easily change that, if necessary. -

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread sebb
What's the SVN tag for the release? It's useful to be able to compare the source archive with SVN to check if there are any missing or extraneous files. It's also useful to compare the tar and zip versions of the archives - it's not unknown for these to be different (ignoring differences in sourc

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-16 Thread Todd Volkert
Can a few PMC members please check this out to see if I resolved all the issues? Thanks, -T On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: > Incubator PMC members: > > I've addressed the concerns brought up in the first vote and have > re-rolled the distribution archives with the fixes.  S

[VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-14 Thread Todd Volkert
Incubator PMC members: I've addressed the concerns brought up in the first vote and have re-rolled the distribution archives with the fixes. Specifically, here's what changed since the last vote: * Changed the JDK 1.5 system requirement in the BUILD file to be JDK 1.6 (which includes the StAX AP