My personal experience with Tez for last few months was very good.
Although I am not from the same company from where the Tez project originally
started, the Tez community was very helpful to quickly ramp me up. The
community has patiently and promptly gave the constructive feedbacks/comments
If I am not mistaken, no one really doubt the possible value of Tez
(incubating) for other open- and close-source projects. I don't think it
is an intention of the IPMC or a wider incubator community to pass the
judgement on the technical viability of a project.
What is discussed, on the other
I'll detail why I think Tez is ready to graduate.
Nobody is concerned about its activity, relevance, or ability to
produce releases. So I won't belabor those points. Let's focus on
whether the Tez project is approachable as a project and as a
community.
Posting project plans and discussing them
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some specific
level of diversity, there is a requirement that the group demonstrate
community building.
I'm also sympathetic to this:
@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some
specific
level of diversity
[Was: Request for mentor assessment]
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some
specific
level of diversity, there is a requirement that the group demonstrate
community
: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
Regardless of whether it is an explicit requirement to have some
specific
level of diversity, there is a requirement that the group
.
Cheers,
Chris
-Original Message-
From: Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com
Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Monday, June 23, 2014 12:12 AM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request
@incubator.apache.org
Date: Monday, June 23, 2014 1:20 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: d...@tez.incubator.apache.org d...@tez.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]
Hi folks,
To be very clear, the project's source of truth has always
I will look as soon as possible. I am on a trip right now and am occupied with
day job stuff 12 hours a day.
If you don't hear from me in a short time, move forward based in your best
judgment. I trust the group to consider my impressions and to think about what
merit they may (or may not)
@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Monday, June 23, 2014 1:39 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: d...@tez.incubator.apache.org d...@tez.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]
I will look as soon as possible. I
Tez.
Thanks
Bikas
-Original Message-
From: Mattmann, Chris A (3980) [mailto:chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 1:46 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: d...@tez.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]
Thanks Ted
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bikas Saha bi...@hortonworks.com wrote:
Community building is an organic process that grows on its own accord.
Really, I was going to run away for a bit, but my feeling is that this
statement is amazingly naive about how communities are built.
Community
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 2:41 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Cc: d...@tez.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bikas Saha bi...@hortonworks.com wrote:
Community building is an organic process that grows
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bikas Saha bi...@hortonworks.com wrote:
Community building is an organic process that grows on its own accord.
Really, I was going to run away for a bit, but my feeling is that this
I see two threads here
- Concerns about graduation of Apache Tez project w.r.t diversity based on the
PPMC html page
- Community related threads about things like whether diversity is a hard
requirement or how to grow communities.
AFAICT, Hitesh's latest information on the state of the
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Vinod Kumar Vavilapalli
vino...@apache.org wrote:
I see two threads here
- Concerns about graduation of Apache Tez project w.r.t diversity based on
the PPMC html page
- Community related threads about things like whether diversity is a hard
requirement or
I will add my two cents in here on the diversity front as a member of the
Pig team which has been working closely with Tez team for the past 3
quarters.
There has been a whole lot of features and design changes done in Tez
driven by requirements from Pig and it has been a pleasure working with
@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Date: Saturday, June 21, 2014 10:18 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]
Looks like the page is not updated because the proposal mentions more
diverse people [1]
[1
@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]
Looks like the page is not updated because the proposal mentions more
diverse people [1]
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TezProposal
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Konstantin
Looks like the page is not updated because the proposal mentions more
diverse people [1]
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TezProposal
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org wrote:
Ok, I've reached out to the Tez project and it seems that they are wokring w/
Subject: Re: Tez graduation [Was: Request for mentor assessment]
Looks like the page is not updated because the proposal mentions more
diverse people [1]
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TezProposal
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Konstantin Boudnik c...@apache.org
wrote:
Ok, I've reached
It looks like this page was indeed not up to date as I heard that it was up to
the individual committers involved to add themselves to that page and some or
more of them didn't do it. If there is a way to figure out the official list
instead of depending on this page, that should address some
Ok, I've reached out to the Tez project and it seems that they are wokring w/
Chris Mattmann's on the graduation process (per an email exchange
http://s.apache.org/K7g). What has caught my attention is the PPMC composition
which is pretty much uniformly represented by a group with the same
I think that this is a serious problem for Tez graduation. So far, Tez has
been essentially a one-company show and essentially all of the participants
are there because of their day jobs.
It doesn't seem like it has to be that way, but it also doesn't seem like
there are organic drives to push
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