Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: In my mind as an IPMC member and Apache Member, this is a source release VOTE with convenience binary artifacts. Thank you, Dave. I consider your statement to override the assertion on ooo-dev that binaries are part of

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Greg Stein
Rob: I believe it is rather foolish to argue that Roy is incorrect. For starters, he wrote the Bylaws, and is well-versed in the intent of this Foundation. Second, the Foundation policies take precedence over third-party concepts, so whether you/OSI may define a binary as open source is wholly

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Greg Stein
On Aug 20, 2012 5:06 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 20, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: ... -1 I object to the claim that the AOO binaries are officially part of this release: ... I am not surprised at your response, but it is hard and unproductive to argue

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/21/12 8:14 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: In my mind as an IPMC member and Apache Member, this is a source release VOTE with convenience binary artifacts. Thank you, Dave. I consider your statement to override the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/12 8:14 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: In my mind as an IPMC member and Apache Member, this is a source release VOTE with convenience

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread sebb
On 18 August 2012 13:24, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating). This will be the second incubator release for Apache OpenOffice after the 3.4 release with already more than 11 million

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/21/12 12:52 PM, sebb wrote: On 18 August 2012 13:24, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating). This will be the second incubator release for Apache OpenOffice after the 3.4 release

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Branko Čibej
On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: I think the NOTICE problems are serious enough to warrant a respin. This is an unreasonable request. The IPMC voted on the 3.4.0 release. The notice file has not changed between 3.4.0 and 3.4.1. How then do you justify this new requirement? It is not fair to the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Thilo Goetz
On 21/08/12 13:59, Branko Čibej wrote: On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: I think the NOTICE problems are serious enough to warrant a respin. This is an unreasonable request. The IPMC voted on the 3.4.0 release. The notice file has not changed between 3.4.0 and 3.4.1. How then do you justify

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Thilo Goetz twgo...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/08/12 13:59, Branko Čibej wrote: On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: I think the NOTICE problems are serious enough to warrant a respin. This is an unreasonable request. The IPMC voted on the 3.4.0 release. The notice file

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Benson Margulies
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Thilo Goetz twgo...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/08/12 13:59, Branko Čibej wrote: On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: I think the NOTICE problems are serious enough to warrant a respin. This is an

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Thilo Goetz twgo...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/08/12 13:59, Branko Čibej wrote: On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: I think

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Thilo Goetz
On 21/08/12 15:24, Rob Weir wrote: [...] A suggested exercise at ApacheCon. Get a group of 20 Members, break them into groups of 5. Give each group an identical list of 3rd party dependencies and ask them to create a NOTICE file that expresses them. Give them 30 minutes. Compare the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread sebb
On 21 August 2012 14:38, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Thilo Goetz twgo...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/08/12 13:59, Branko Čibej wrote: On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: I think the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: It is fair to require changes for the next release. It's not fair to use different criteria for two successive, essentially identical releases. When the option to be fair exists, fair is great! With regards to my own vote,

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/12 8:14 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: * I could not find a version control tag for 3.4.1-rc2, but I was able to obtain the AOO34 branch at the specified revision 1372282; it was close, though seemingly

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: It is fair to require changes for the next release. It's not fair to use different criteria for two successive, essentially identical releases.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 8/21/12 5:10 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/12 8:14 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: * I could not find a version control tag for 3.4.1-rc2, but I was able to obtain the AOO34 branch at the specified revision

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Thilo Goetz twgo...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/08/12 13:59, Branko Čibej wrote: On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: I think the NOTICE problems are serious enough to warrant a respin. This is an unreasonable request. The IPMC voted on the 3.4.0 release. The notice file

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 21, 2012, at 8:01 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:59 AM, Branko Čibej br...@apache.org wrote: It is fair to require changes for the next release. It's not fair to use different criteria for two successive, essentially identical releases. When the option to be

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Thilo Goetz twgo...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/08/12 13:59, Branko Čibej wrote: On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: I think the NOTICE problems are serious enough to warrant a respin. This is an

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev

[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
sorry for posting it again but I forgot the RESULT tag in the subject On 8/21/12 5:29 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Branko Čibej
On 21.08.2012 17:29, Greg Stein wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Thilo Goetz twgo...@gmx.de wrote: On 21/08/12 13:59, Branko Čibej wrote: On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: I think the NOTICE problems are serious enough

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Aug 21, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Branko Čibej wrote: On 21.08.2012 12:52, sebb wrote: I think the NOTICE problems are serious enough to warrant a respin. This is an unreasonable request. The IPMC voted on the 3.4.0 release. The notice file has not changed between 3.4.0 and 3.4.1. How then do

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... -1 I object to the claim that the AOO binaries are officially part of this

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-20 Thread Dave Fisher
On Aug 20, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... -1 I object to the

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-20 Thread Dave Fisher
Top-Post - you question is answered below. In my mind as an IPMC member and Apache Member, this is a source release VOTE with convenience binary artifacts. Edge case and RAT check discussion at the bottom, if that balances your vote in either direction. Please advise about whether you think

[VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-18 Thread Andre Fischer
Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating). This will be the second incubator release for Apache OpenOffice after the 3.4 release with already more than 11 million downloads. This release candidate provides the following

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Aug 18, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com wrote: The vote will be open for 3 days. [ ] +1 Release this package as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) [ ] 0 Don't care [ ] -1 Do not release this package because... +1 (binding)

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-18 Thread Richard S. Hall
On 8/18/12 08:24 , Andre Fischer wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating). This will be the second incubator release for Apache OpenOffice after the 3.4 release with already more than 11 million downloads. This

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2

2012-08-18 Thread Andre Fischer
On 18.08.2012 17:53, Richard S. Hall wrote: On 8/18/12 08:24 , Andre Fischer wrote: Hi all, this is a call for vote on releasing the following candidate as Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating). This will be the second incubator release for Apache OpenOffice after the 3.4 release with already