Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Kevin A. Burton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anything, crossdb is something that is a few generations behind Torque in terms of functionality and design. http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/torque/ Yeah... I was going to point this out.

[OT] Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Tim Vernum
It is a problem people can understand and is easy to become fascinated with. Similar to they way everyone in the world has created their own text editor. Pah! Text Editors are for weenies. Real developers write their own window manager :) -- NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments

RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Hi Kevin, Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anything, crossdb is something that is a few generations behind Torque in terms of functionality and design. http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/torque/ Yeah... I was going to point this out. Funny how all the rage

AW: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Amarendran Subramanian
Torque is nice, but you have to specify the database first in the XML. Usually, I prefer to code Java instead of XML. If it was the other way i solved this by writing a little tools that analyzes the database and generates the xml for me. but this is for my own tool not for torque ;) it also

RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Hi Amarendran, If you analyse the database, then you have to define it first using an SQL script, or something. We felt the need for a tool that, taking a set of classes, created the tables for us and filled them with the objects. For example, if we have public class Nested { private

RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Bala Kamallakharan
Check out jdocentral.org, vendors implementing the Java Data Object (JSR-12 jcp.org) specification do that stuff. I personally like Zodo JDO (http://www.solarmetric.com/). It is pretty slick, it does exactly what you want to do. Given a class that you build in Java it can generate tables and

AW: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Amarendran Subramanian
Hi Alex, If you analyse the database, then you have to define it first using an SQL script, or something. We felt the need for a tool that, taking a set of ok i see, i normally use ER-Tools to create the database using a GUI which is really good for the overview and documentation purposes. So

Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro wrote: I can imagine why people do their OR tool: because existing ones do not fulfill their necessities. In fact, that's what happened to me recently. Exactly. I haven't seen a decent one so far (except for NeXT/Apple WebObjects). So if you want to compare

RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread travis
Now I wonder if using crossdb for Torque would be a good idea. Reason being is that you wouldn't have to rebuild all your classes and scripts like you would using Torque now if you wanted to use a different database. Or even modifying the database, you wouldn't have to rebuild everything,

Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 4/24/02 8:13 AM, Bala Kamallakharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally like Zodo JDO (http://www.solarmetric.com/). It is pretty slick, it does exactly what you want to do. Given a class that you build in Java it can generate tables and make the classes Persistence Capable. Thanks,

[OT] OR mapping tools as a commodity

2002-04-24 Thread Santiago Gala
Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 4/24/02 8:13 AM, Bala Kamallakharan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally like Zodo JDO (http://www.solarmetric.com/). It is pretty slick, it does exactly what you want to do. Given a class that you build in Java it can generate tables and make the classes

[OT] RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro
Thanks for the plug. Whenever I need a commercial product, I will certainly use Zodo JDO. For now, I will stick to free software. Un saludo, Alex. -Mensaje original- De: Bala Kamallakharan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: miƩrcoles 24 de abril de 2002 17:13 Para: Jakarta

Re: AW: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Daniel Rall
Amarendran Subramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Torque is nice, but you have to specify the database first in the XML. Usually, I prefer to code Java instead of XML. If it was the other way i solved this by writing a little tools that analyzes the database and generates the xml for me. but

RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Joe Germuska
At 9:30 AM -0600 4/24/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I wonder if using crossdb for Torque would be a good idea. Reason being is that you wouldn't have to rebuild all your classes and scripts like you would using Torque now if you wanted to use a different database. Or even modifying the

Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Daniel Rall
Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 9:30 AM -0600 4/24/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I wonder if using crossdb for Torque would be a good idea. Reason being is that you wouldn't have to rebuild all your classes and scripts like you would using Torque now if you wanted to use a

RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] on 4/22/02 12:19 AM, Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While these may not be accurate summaries, I hope you now do see that CrossDB and Torque are not, in the majority of use cases, alternatives to one another. I'm sorry. I

Re: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread Bala Kamallakharan
http://www.solarmetric.com/Software/Kodo_JDO/pricing.php Only $3000 to deploy it! Bah. This stuff should be free. Maybe this is a project for Jakarta :-) I am interested in an Open Source Alternative, I am sure a lot of folks are JDO spec came out a couple of months back...I am sure we

New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Sam
Hi. I would like to propose a new subproject called Config4J. The aim of this project is to provide developers with a generic framework to help with setting up application level configuration in Java applications, in a manner similar to what Log4J does for logging. I have a first cut of the

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Sam
I didnt realise that. Will check it out and send what I have to the folks who are managing that. Cheers /sam Daniel Rall wrote: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 4/24/02 4:50 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I would like to propose a new subproject called

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Jon Scott Stevens
on 4/24/02 5:04 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didnt realise that. Will check it out and send what I have to the folks who are managing that. Cheers /sam You may also want to pass this on: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html One more thing, come up with a more

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Daniel Rall
Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 4/24/02 4:50 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I would like to propose a new subproject called Config4J. The aim of this project is to provide developers with a generic framework to help with setting up application level configuration

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Sam
Dumb question. Where is this jakarta-commons-sandbox/configuration that you mentioned below. Its not listed anywhere on http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/components.html Thanks ./s Daniel Rall wrote: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: on 4/24/02 4:50 PM, Sam [EMAIL

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Sam
The creativity went out the window, right after the dot Coms with their -creative- work enviornments :) ./s Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 4/24/02 5:04 PM, Sam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didnt realise that. Will check it out and send what I have to the folks who are managing that.

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Peter Donald
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:50, Sam wrote: Hi. I would like to propose a new subproject called Config4J. Theres a few of these around all solving similar things. Is there anything that distinguishes it from the Preferences API in JDK1.4? (Except that it would run on pre-jdk1.4 JVMs). The

RE: RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-24 Thread travis
So, I'm kind of curious what the general consensus is regarding this. Seems to be in various directions. Travis Original Message From: Jeff Schnitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2002-04-24 To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb From:

Re: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-24 Thread Michael A. Smith
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Sam wrote: Where is this jakarta-commons-sandbox/configuration that you mentioned below. Its not listed anywhere on http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/components.html The component doesn't have a website yet. You can get to the files via viewcvs: