Carsten Lohrke wrote:
>RDEPEND="cvs? ( dev-util/cvs )
> svn? ( dev-util/subversion )
> !cvs? ( ! svn? ( dev-util/cvs ) )"
>
>
Huh? How about:
RDEPEND="|| ( dev-util/cvs dev-util/subversion )"
IMO, your example is a USE flag abuse.
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On Saturday 29 April 2006 03:08, Alin Nastac wrote:
> Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> >RDEPEND="cvs? ( dev-util/cvs )
> > svn? ( dev-util/subversion )
> > !cvs? ( ! svn? ( dev-util/cvs ) )"
>
> Huh? How about:
> RDEPEND="|| ( dev-util/cvs dev-util/subversion )"
>
> IMO, your example is a USE flag a
Ryan Phillips wrote:
> Stable and unstable keywords are a hack on top of a version control
> system. We wouldn't have them if gentoo used an SCM that supports true
> branches. There would be no need.
Umm, I'm not an ebuild dev, but how would users mix stable and unstable
packages in such a case?
On Saturday 29 April 2006 09:08, Alin Nastac wrote:
> Huh? How about:
> RDEPEND="|| ( dev-util/cvs dev-util/subversion )"
Similar problem as with Tuan's version: It's intransparent to the user and he
has no choice, unless he looks into the ebuild. || ( foo bar ) is only an
option, if you have t
On Friday 28 April 2006 20:14, Ryan Phillips wrote:
> __Problem: Live Tree__
>
> Having a live tree requires people to be perfect. People are not perfect
> and requiring it is ridiculous. I love having commits in my local tree
> within the hour, but having a stable and unstable branch makes a lot
On Friday 28 April 2006 23:42, Ryan Phillips wrote:
> svn
> + Atomic Commits
> + Merging/tagging/brancing is a simple "copy" operation
>http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch04.html
> + lots of benefits
>http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.intro.features.html
>there is more I'm
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 03:02:46PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote:
> On Friday 28 April 2006 23:42, Ryan Phillips wrote:
> > svn
> > + Atomic Commits
> > + Merging/tagging/brancing is a simple "copy" operation
> >http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch04.html
> > + lots of benefits
> >http://svnbo
On Saturday 29 April 2006 15:21, Fernando J. Pereda wrote:
> The commit marked with @ is a special comit called a 'merge'.
> I hope that clarifies the merge tracking part.
You just described what merging is. Svn can do that too with svn merge. But,
if I merge changesets from branch A to B selectiv
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 03:54:17PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote:
> On Saturday 29 April 2006 15:21, Fernando J. Pereda wrote:
> > The commit marked with @ is a special comit called a 'merge'.
> > I hope that clarifies the merge tracking part.
> You just described what merging is. Svn can do that too with
On Saturday 29 April 2006 05:01, Drake Wyrm wrote:
> I stand corrected. Might it be acceptable, though, to set it with
> something like
No, it's an user variable.
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> What is interesting is that Source Mage Linux has already voted on a proposal
> similar to mine[2]. I truly think that making some changes in the "gentoo
> way"
> would benefit us and make gentoo a truly better distribution.
>
> Ryan
> Gentoo
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 05:01:20PM -0500, Daniel Goller wrote:
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> Thomas Cort wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:42:57 +0200
> > Bryan Østergaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> So.. What can we do to improve things?
> >
> > I think that there sho
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 08:41:31AM -0500, Daniel Goller wrote:
> inviting community) and why you think stricter test make for better
> developers, why you think harder tests would cut down more on the quick
> in and out people.
Empirical evidence agrees.
Our current quiz practices have done a goo
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Jon Portnoy wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 08:41:31AM -0500, Daniel Goller wrote:
>> inviting community) and why you think stricter test make for better
>> developers, why you think harder tests would cut down more on the quick
>> in and out people.
On Fri, Apr 28, 2006 at 08:05:06PM -0500, Daniel Goller wrote:
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> Simon Stelling wrote:
> > Hi Ryan,
> >
> > Ryan Phillips wrote:
> >> I believe the way Gentoo is doing things is broken. There I have said
> >> it. The
> >> entire project has re
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> Jon Portnoy wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 08:41:31AM -0500, Daniel Goller wrote:
> >> inviting community) and why you think stricter test make for better
> >> developers, why y
Hi all.
Ferris McCormick (fmccor) recently stepped down as Developer Relations
lead and Developer Relations have now elected a new lead.
It is therefore with great pleassure that I can announce that I'm going
to lead Developer Relations together with Jon Portnoy (avenj) and I'm
sure Jon will do a
Jan Kundrát wrote:
Ryan Phillips wrote:
Stable and unstable keywords are a hack on top of a version control
system. We wouldn't have them if gentoo used an SCM that supports true
branches. There would be no need.
Umm, I'm not an ebuild dev, but how would users mix stable and unstable
package
On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 00:41 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> Stuart Herbert wrote:
> What is the reason for the mask? Modular Xorg incompatibility in nx-x11?
Because it should not have been unmasked in the first place. That was a
mistake on my part, to not notice that I hadn't masked it when I ma
Hi Ryan,
I hope you find these comments useful.
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 10:14 -0700, Ryan Phillips wrote:
> __Problem: Developer Growth__
>
> Why do people have to take a test?
There are certain skills we need a developer to demonstrate before we
can give them commit access. There is currently
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 03:55:57 +0200, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Tim Yamin wrote:
> >Speaking of which, has anybody done any tests with svk?
> >(http://svk.elixus.org)
> >And: http://svk.elixus.org/?WhySVK -- it would be interesting to compare
> >checkout performance on it as well.
>
> I've been
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 10:33:11PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> > __Problem: Developer Growth__
> >
> > Why do people have to take a test?
>
> There are certain skills we need a developer to demonstrate before we
> can give them commit access. There is currently no opportunity for a
> would-
Alexandre Buisse wrote:
The opensolaris project has done a similar thing[1]. The three finalists
were bazaar[2], mercurial[3] and git[4], and the winner was eventually
mercurial. This is also the recommended choice from the EuroBSDcon
slides, so definitely something to consider.
Indeed, althoug
Stuart Herbert wrote:
>> __Problem: CVS__
>>
>> CVS is one of the worst application ever created.
>
> Hear, hear.
>
> I'd like to see a move to Subversion made a priority for 2006. If there
> are problems with Subversion's performance with our tree, engage with
> its authors to obtain improve
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 08:55:52PM -0500, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Stuart Herbert wrote:
>
> >> __Problem: CVS__
> >>
> >> CVS is one of the worst application ever created.
> >
> > Hear, hear.
> >
> > I'd like to see a move to Subversion made a priority for 2006. If there
> > are problems wit
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 05:00:10PM -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Alexandre Buisse wrote:
> >The opensolaris project has done a similar thing[1]. The three finalists
> >were bazaar[2], mercurial[3] and git[4], and the winner was eventually
> >mercurial. This is also the recommended choice from the
Stuart Herbert wrote:
>
> I'm offering to lead the effort to establish a global Gentoo developer
> conference, and to do whatever it takes to get everything we need to
> make this happen. Now who's up for this? :)
>
> Best regards,
> Stu
>
That sounds like a great idea.
-Ryan
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