Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2008/2009 Nominations end TODAY 23:59 UTC

> I think tsunam and kingtaco are the same, but I'll wait for them to make > those statements themselves. While I thank those who nominated me, as in past years I've declined the nomination in favor of working on other possibilities. I wish those who are running the best of luck. So yes I declin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

Wulf C. Krueger wrote: On Wednesday, 02. April 2008 22:46:16 Petteri Räty wrote: > How does having the average time between commits be at most a week > sound and if it goes under that, undertakers will get a notification? It sounds like you're trying to get rid of someone. -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fabio Erculiani wrote: | Hi Joshua, | I never had issues with my emails. So I don't really know what to | answer you regarding to your issues :) | SPLIT: Although I think it can be a suboptimal thing for us, I can | understand your policy. Let me add

Re: [gentoo-dev] Help offered - Portage tree

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fabio Erculiani wrote: | Hi all, | | Cheers interestingly enough ixnay...I've tried contacting you about working together with Gentoo and on things related to eapi as sabayon is one of the more popular distributions that has somewhat of a basis on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google SOC 2008

Rémi Cardona wrote: > joshua jackson a écrit : >> 2) We need mentors, so far confirmed I have: Diego and Saleem > > What kind of work is involved there? I wouldn't mind being a mentor > but I'd like to know a bit more about what's expected from a "good" &

[gentoo-dev] Google SOC 2008

All, Google is once again doing the summer of code for students. I'm helping organize it this year and am putting out a call for some elements to help. 1) We need idea's for things to do. Diego has already submitted some via his blog which have been taken into consideration. 2) We need mentors, s

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2008 Google Summer of Code

George Prowse wrote: > Grant Goodyear wrote: >> Google has been hinting not-so-subtlely that there's going to be >> a 2008 Google Summer of Code. I expect that if we want to participate, >> we're going to have to have our ducks in a row by March, if not >> earlier. >> >> So, does Gentoo want to pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2008 Google Summer of Code

Grant Goodyear wrote: > Google has been hinting not-so-subtlely that there's going to be > a 2008 Google Summer of Code. I expect that if we want to participate, > we're going to have to have our ducks in a row by March, if not > earlier. > > So, does Gentoo want to participate this year? > > If s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Blackace wrote: > I'd like to nominate: > > vapier > tsunam > nightmorph > seemant > avenj > christel > > Although most of them will probably decline, I think they would do an > excellent job straightening out Gentoo's heading and have the barnacles >

Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/pidgin protocols

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jakub Moc wrote: > Petteri Räty napsal(a): >> Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are >> implemented. >> >> Regards, >> Petteri > > As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree. > Plus, what vapier said,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for more photos on planet.g.o

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rémi Cardona wrote: > Hi everyone, [snip] > Rémi Does that mean that my tophat = funky picture of myself? if you have no clue which I'm talking about.. http://planet.gentoo.org/images/tsunam.png isn't that however the point, to have fun with it?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-tv/freevo

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Buchholz wrote: > On Wednesday, 11. July 2007 21:28, Stefan Schweizer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> # unmaintained, masked for removal, bug 156497 >> # You can find a new version in the sunrise overlay >> > I'll take over (proxy) maintenance of it, beand

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC]: gentoo-politics ML

Benjamin Judas wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 12.06.2007, 22:44 +0100 schrieb Stephen Bennett: > >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:10:32 +0200 >> Benjamin Judas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> ...which means that he has a documented history of trolling not only >>> on mailinglists but also in irc-c

Re: [gentoo-dev] 1/2 OT: splitting packages

Daniel Ostrow wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 23:18 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > >> Hi folks, >> >> >> I know this issue is not actually in the scope of this list, but >> maybe some of you might be interested: >> >> Lots of packages have optional parts which (IMHO) should/could be >> their own

Re: [gentoo-dev] Planning for automatic assignment of bugs

Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy wrote: > On 4/26/07, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Case 2 - Metadata contains a single maintainer >> -- >> - The herd field is not used. >> - The maintainer address is used as the bugzilla assignee. >> This is importa

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

>> >> > Ciaran, > > You missed the bandwagon on trying to use the "conspiracy theories" > phrase already. That happened a full 24 hrs ago. I'm sorry you were > off-line. Next time try to come to the party on time, otherwise keep quiet. > Already been handled as its offtopic, please just

Re: [gentoo-dev] [ANN] Multiple version suffixes illegal in gentoo-x86

Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:57:39 +0200 > Danny van Dyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Funnily enough... If we're going by PMS drafts, that's illegal >>> whereas multiple suffixes are legal. PMS permits multiple suffixes, >>> but limits any individual version component to e

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Christina Fullam (musikc)

Christian Heim wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce to you Christina (Chrissy) Fullam (also know as > musikc on IRC) our latest addition joining Developer relations, more precise > conflict resolution and will probably join Chris' GWN minions. > > Christina is joining us from Greenville, SC (th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: File collisions

Rob C wrote: > > > On 19/04/07, *Christian Faulhammer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >: > > > On the issue of QA, I think enabling FEATURES="collision-detect" by > > default would do a lot more g

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

> > The arch teams have been pushing for this for a long time. They're > trying to get this enforced, but are having limited success because > there's no way for FEATURES=test to become widely used that won't lead > to broken user systems. Moving src_test to be always on in future EAPIs > is an e

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] New metastructure proposal

Petteri Räty wrote: > Alexandre Buisse kirjoitti: > >> What I *want* to do is to make gentoo fun again. And I believe that >> decentralising and giving more autonomy to people will achieve exactly >> that, for reasons explained in the proposal. >> >> > > I am a project lead for two projects

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Cummings wrote: > When you pop into your mail client of choice and find 50+ unread messages in the > last few hours, you know what kind of day [EMAIL PROTECTED] is having. > > Don't suppose we could get on with that silly topical thing of devel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Hiatus (sort of)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: > Paul de Vrieze kirjoitti: >> Hi all, >> >> Me and my wife and son are moving to Australia. We are now waiting for the visa's to arrive, and after that will need some time to set ourselves up. Our computers however are being shippe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Another council topic for Feb

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Doty wrote: > We're going to talk about arch keywording policies. IMO we should have > a standard policy "if you own and use ${ARCH} then you may keyword your > packages for ${ARCH}" with the exception of the sys-*/ categories. > > Speakup now to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Portnoy wrote: > I've been mostly inactive for a good while but hanging on mostly for > sentimentality's sake, it's past time for that to stop. > > I mostly only maintain a small handful of ebuilds, I'm sure they can > find proper homes quickly. No

Re: [gentoo-dev] Beryl maintainer needed

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hanno Böck wrote: > Hi, > > As you may know, beryl is a fork of the famous window- and composite-manager > compiz (beryl formerly was named compiz-quinnstorm). > > I'm maintaining the compiz package and at first thought I'd also take beryl, > but I'd p

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Jeffrey Gardner (je_fro)

he says that he could be a LOT >> better. > > Excellent, another member of the soon-to-be-famous Gentoo rock band! I > think Joshua Jackson (tsunam) has already volunteered to be the > singer :) What is it, three new musical devs so far in the last 2 > weeks? > Ack! we wan

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Last rites for $package ...

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Hi folks, > To be perfectly honest, we're not going to hold someone's hand with this. We shouldn't be expected to. A package will be in mask for a month before its removed. That's a good warning sign that something is up. You c

Re: [gentoo-dev] New dev: dev-zero

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Stelling wrote: > Hi all, > > It is with great pleasure that I announce the devification of > Tiziano 'dev-zero' Müller. He writes us: > > "I'm from Zurich, Switzerland. Born here and still living here :-) > I'm studying physics at the Universi

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Tristan Heaven (nyhm)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Stelling wrote: > Hello all, > > I am proud to announce Tristan Heaven as the latest addition to the > Gentoo developer community! Heaven knows why he wants to contribute > to Gentoo: To help the games herd maintaining the games-*/ > categories.

Re: [gentoo-dev] seeds, GLEPs, and projects

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Stelling wrote: > Grant Goodyear wrote: >> If we >> (being Gentoo) say that we're going to do something, and then things >> fall through, it might make us look bad, after all. > > Maybe it's just me being stupid, but what exactly do we have to lo

Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: Gentoo Seeds

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Joshua Jackson wrote: >> However, as >> Chris stated loudly, that this is something that falls directly in >> line with Release Engineerings goal. Its not a top level project that >> creates so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Edgar Hucek wrote: > Apeal on extended testing : > > Developer, please test things more carefull before you > release it. > I already found things which does not compile out of > the box. > 1.) Use wacom does not compile out of the box. You > have to u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Democracy: No silver bullet

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Ostrow wrote: > > >> If I could go back in time a couple of years and prevent this democracy >> from ever happening, I would. If I could fix these problems myself, I >> would. But it requires buy-in from the entire Gentoo community if we're >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-Status

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seemant Kulleen wrote: > Your concerns are well noted. The trustees in general are quiet even > amongst themselves, but I hope this changes with the new board coming in > next week (ish?). It's been my idea to propose that someone (tsunam was > in my

Re: [gentoo-dev] [treecleaner] Last rites: media-sound/alsaplayer

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Doty wrote: > Christian Heim wrote: >> The media-sound/alsaplayer package is pending removal as requested >> by [EMAIL PROTECTED] for multiple buffer overflows [1], dead upstream >> [1] and a crash occurring when playing uLaw/AU Audio File [2]. >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: AT emerge info cruft > attachments to [STABLE] bugs

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> ex. >> >> gcc 4.1.1 works on x86 with the following: >> >> USE="gtk nls -bootstrap -build -doc -fortran -gcj -hardened -ip28 >> -ip32r10k -mudflap -multislot -nocxx -objc -objc++ -objc-gc -test >> -vanilla" > > Looks OK to me. But hey, aren't arch

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-doc/chmlib - call for maintainer

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ryan Hill wrote: > Raphael Marichez wrote: > >> app-doc/chmlib is without an active ebuild maintainer and has an open security >> bug [1] >> >> Anyone willing to take care of this package in the future, please update >> metadata.xml and CC yourself on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Update notes on -p ?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Hi folks, > > > some packages print out important notices on install/update. > I'd like to see those notes before actually updating, so when > using --pretend. > > I'd like to see this as an feature. We could put those texts int

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developer Upgrade! Steve Dibbs

Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: Hi all, It is with geat pleasure that I can knight Steve (aka beandog) a 'real dev'. Under Mike (KingTacos) hawkeyed glance I have recruited my first recruitee (hmm, it's not really called recruitee is it?) and am embarking upon a joyful^Wstressful time as a r

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > I'd like to suggest we make FEATURES=test (and therefore USE=test) the > default behaviour, rather than the opt-in we currently have. Far too > many packages fail their test phase. > > Since we encourage users to set CFLAGS in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for August

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lance Albertson wrote: > Curtis Napier wrote: > >> I got to chat with the CEO of the company that donated that equipment >> and the wait was *more* than worth it. Once it's up and running our >> bugzilla will be rock solid and fast fast fast fast fast

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > Knowing what the problem is is part of making the solution. The problem > is not that users can't push arbitrary content into a centralised > official repository with no oversight from the herds appropriate for > said content

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:20:16 -0500 "Alex Tarkovsky" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | This "no QA" accusation is a complete myth. QA led by actual Gentoo > | developers is indeed in place at Sunrise [1]. > > Did you look at *whi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Those were nominated but did not (yet) confirm their participation : > > tsunam > While honored to be possible considered to be able to help guide the technical direction of gentoo. I however don't feel that I'm capable of it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wernfried Haas wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 05:34:31PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: >> Dunno about other folks, but I'd be very happy to see us return to the >> Resource Centre once more. I thought that it worked well as a venue, >> and that Londo

[gentoo-dev] Linux World Expo

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So who's planning on going? Basically I'd like to know who's planning on going. I'm still undecided about it honestly, and if I go it'd only be for a few days. Its also probably a good way to find a roomate to make the cost of rooms a bit less. We don

Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Or instead of throwing a hissy fit yourself about diego not agreeing with you..I don't know you could go and show the way that you feel it should be done and show the technical merit. Ciaran I will give you that you are a capable programmer, and had v

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] IMPORTANT: bugs performance issues

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you to all of our sponsors and especially GNI for being so gracious and giving to us. Not even a little tiny bit of compiling? A smidge? pretty please with a cherry on top? > > Yay, *plop* !!! (And no, tsunam - no compiling there :P) > > -B

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Tuesday 04 July 2006 16:39, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: >> On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 02:46:59 -0400 >> Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> well it's about that time of the year ... time for nominating >>> people for the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GPL and Source code providing

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jakub Moc wrote: > Curtis Napier wrote: >> If it's decided to go with this idea I think we should mark it up >> a little, even if it's only a dollar or two. People actually >> don't mind paying a little if it's going to go towards helping >> Gentoo. We

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mobile Computing herd severely understaffed

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 x86 AT O_o *bonks nightmorph on the head* you're a developer! that's almost, well entirely, a step in the opposite direction. We could use the help on the x86 team as well. And we're not overbearing, only needing you to test 4 packages in a month with

Re: [gentoo-dev] bugzilla 2.22 masked ~x86

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Hi folks, > > I've just seen, current bugzilla is masked, and DBD::Pg too. As the > documentation states "~x86" means, it's working, but not properly > tested on this platform (ie. x86). > > How does the process of proving packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Future developer

Paul de Vrieze wrote: I'm proud to announce the arival of a future developer. His name is "Tom". He arived last monday on 10:22 am (UTC+02). I and my wife will take care of mentoring him to full developership ;-). In the meantime, he's got his own album on http://www.cs.ru.nl/~pauldv/tom/ Pau

Re: [gentoo-dev] Assigning bugs to treecleaners

As long as it doesn't involve spanky I think we won't lose all our users because they suddenly became blind. Its the first time I've heard of the project as well. I knew that there were a few people going through and removing stuff but... (that's right, i'm recommending the special centerfold

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Another one bites the dust Another one bites the dust And another one gone, and another one gone Another one bites the dust Hey, Im gonna get you too Another one bites the dust -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Last Rites: app-admin/scotty]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What no! not scotty. Who's going to beam us all up now and repair the ship in half the time that he says it'll take! Alec Warner wrote: > Scotty has been pmasked due to sandbox violations[1]. > I spent about 30 minutes looking at them and solving them

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Useflags: qt, qt3, qt4?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > On Tuesday 20 June 2006 18:40, Stefan Schweizer wrote: >> 3) split the qt flag into a qt3 and a qt4 flag. This allows users >> to specifically pick qt3 or qt4 and the flag meanings are obvious >> - downsides are it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] using specific gcc-version in ebuild

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Forcing a change in your gcc version for compiling is less then optimal. I don't believe the eclass has anything in it that will help in what you are trying to do. I would probably do a pkg_setup with a check for the version of gcc if it isn't a 3.* ve

Re: [gentoo-dev] User Relations Co-lead

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Of course it will! \^.^/ You can't go wrong with the anime smily faces >_<. Thanks for the luck, I know I'll need it Andrej Kacian wrote: > > > Will that result in dramatic increase of anime smilies in Gentoo environment? > > ^_^ > -BEGIN PGP SIG

[gentoo-dev] Heritage

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've talked about this multiple times but its fallen on death ears so I'm going to bring it up to the everyone who reads this mailing list. I've noticed a disturbing trend with the website redesign. Larry is disappearing from the site. Most noticeably

Re: [gentoo-dev] app-cdr/dvdrtools needs a newer version stable

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've not been able to move my dvd burner from my server over to my development box yet so I have not been able to look at it yet. (the joys of moving hardware between machines :-P when both need it. Well hopefully not much longer as I'll be replacing t

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Dev: antarus (Alec Warner)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brian Harring wrote: > Hola all- > > We've got a new portage dev; Alec Warner, aka antarus- aside from > doc work, he'll be doing repoman work and the usual random bug > squashing. Welcome antarus, might I also mention that he helps out the x86 team as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Joshua Jackson wrote: >> In the oldest version of the package (as all these were), I don't >> see much point in the change. They will be removed within a >> fairly short amount of time. > > Fai

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Joshua Jackson wrote: >> I will have to agree that this change has made it a pain to mark >> anything >> stable. I had 4 out of the 6 I did today bail out because of this. >> I took the >> simp

[gentoo-dev] Re: Unmasking modular X

Mark Loeser gentoo.org> writes: > > Donnie Berkholz gentoo.org> said: > > Jason Stubbs wrote: > > > The patch now has the debugging output and x11-base/xorg-x11 check > > > removed. > > > > Excellent. Works perfectly. Since we're failing on them, perhaps we can > > say "obsolete" instead of "

[gentoo-dev] Re: x86 arch team leads

Mark Loeser gentoo.org> writes: > > Well, the x86 team has now chosen some leads so we can start getting > everything together as a team. For our leads, we have chosen to have a > "committee" of 4 of us: halcy0n, solar, azarah, and wolf32o2. We each > felt that we didn't have the time or exper

[gentoo-dev] Re: Resolution - GTK Useflag Situation

A few more that I didn't see in the list media-libs/imlib : gtk1 only media-libs/smpeg : gtk1 only media-sound/lame : gtk1 only media-video/mplayer: gtk1 it would appear? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: cdparanoia and libcdio

I have to agree with Flameeyes(diego) on this one. If the switch needs to be made, no matter what is done. There will be one package that will slip through and need to be patched. Would be better to get them as we know about them/have users reporting them. I can think of one or two that should be f