Hi, everyone.
I know I'm going to regret asking this... but I've prepared a change to
the Portage output format and I think it asks for a wider discussion
than internally in Portage team.
The primary problem with the current output format is that different
kinds of messages differ only in color.
I love it - this is similar to the xorg log output, and i think it makes
the portage output much cleaner and easier to read.
El mar., 28 de septiembre de 2021 11:36 a. m., Michał Górny <
mgo...@gentoo.org> escribió:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> I know I'm going to regret asking this... but I've prepared a
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021, Michał Górny wrote:
> The proposed new format distinguished message types both using colors
> and strings. This is roughly inspired by Xorg logs.
Using the same markers as Xorg (especially [--]) but with different
meaning may be confusing though. Xorg has these:
M
On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 18:26 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 28 Sep 2021, Michał Górny wrote:
>
> > The proposed new format distinguished message types both using
> > colors
> > and strings. This is roughly inspired by Xorg logs.
>
> Using the same markers as Xorg (especially [--
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2021, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 18:26 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
>> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
>> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented,
On 2021-09-28, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 2021, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 18:26 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> >> Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default
> >> setting,
> >> (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) info
On 9/28/21 8:36 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> Hi, everyone.
>
> I know I'm going to regret asking this... but I've prepared a change to
> the Portage output format and I think it asks for a wider discussion
> than internally in Portage team.
>
> The primary problem with the current output format is tha
Il giorno mer 29 set 2021 alle ore 23:52 A Schenck
ha scritto:
> On 9/28/21 8:36 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > Hi, everyone.
> >
> > I know I'm going to regret asking this... but I've prepared a change to
> > the Portage output format and I think it asks for a wider discussion
> > than internally i
> On 29 Sep 2021, at 22:52, A Schenck wrote:
>
> [snip]
> Didn't expect to be the only dissenting opinion on something like this
> but. . . Some applications parse portage output looking for these
> 'zings'. At very least app-portage/kuroo does it this way; there must be
> others, right? This
Hi,
Would it be possible to have some switch (e.g. --style=legacy) that
controls this new vs. the old behaviour? Would perhaps allow
applications that parse the output to work via setting this in the
global opts.
In addition, much like the colour map, how do you see this change in
light of eclas
On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 08:40 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Would it be possible to have some switch (e.g. --style=legacy) that
> controls this new vs. the old behaviour? Would perhaps allow
> applications that parse the output to work via setting this in the
> global opts.
Patches welcom
On 30-09-2021 08:44:33 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 08:40 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Would it be possible to have some switch (e.g. --style=legacy) that
> > controls this new vs. the old behaviour? Would perhaps allow
> > applications that parse the output
On 9/29/21 11:44 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 08:40 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Would it be possible to have some switch (e.g. --style=legacy) that
>> controls this new vs. the old behaviour? Would perhaps allow
>> applications that parse the output to work via set
On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 11:30 AM A Schenck wrote:
>
> On 9/29/21 11:44 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 08:40 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Would it be possible to have some switch (e.g. --style=legacy) that
> >> controls this new vs. the old behaviour? Would per
On 9/30/2021 02:40, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Would it be possible to have some switch (e.g. --style=legacy) that
> controls this new vs. the old behaviour? Would perhaps allow
> applications that parse the output to work via setting this in the
> global opts.
Perhaps this would be better
On 9/29/21 3:58 PM, Francesco Riosa wrote:
> Il giorno mer 29 set 2021 alle ore 23:52 A Schenck
> mailto:lane_and...@hotmail.com>> ha scritto:
>
> On 9/28/21 8:36 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > Hi, everyone.
> >
> > I know I'm going to regret asking this... but I've prepared a
> ch
On Fri, 2021-10-01 at 18:00 -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote:
> On 9/30/2021 02:40, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Would it be possible to have some switch (e.g. --style=legacy) that
> > controls this new vs. the old behaviour? Would perhaps allow
> > applications that parse the output to work v
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2021, A Schenck wrote:
> On 9/28/21 8:36 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
>> [WW] some message
>> [EE] other message
>> [QA] hell if i know what this is
>>
>> I've also added more colors to explicitly distinguish einfo from elog,
>> and ewarn from eqawarn. Then, I've replaced most of
On 10/1/21 11:32 AM, Alec Warner wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 11:30 AM A Schenck wrote:
>> On 9/29/21 11:44 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 08:40 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
Hi,
Would it be possible to have some switch (e.g. --style=legacy) that
controls t
On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 1:25 PM A Schenck wrote:
> Further discussion belongs on a different list, but the link provided by
> mgorny and repeated by you does not allow collaborating in compliance
> with the Gentoo Social Contract.
The patches were also posted for review on the gentoo-portage-dev m
On Sat, Oct 02, 2021 at 09:22:49AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > On Wed, 29 Sep 2021, A Schenck wrote:
>
> > On 9/28/21 8:36 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> >> [WW] some message
> >> [EE] other message
> >> [QA] hell if i know what this is
> >>
> >> I've also added more colors to explicitly dist
On Sat, Oct 02, 2021 at 06:04:36PM -0400, Ionen Wolkens wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 02, 2021 at 09:22:49AM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2021, A Schenck wrote:
> >
> > > On 9/28/21 8:36 AM, Michał Górny wrote:
> > >> [WW] some message
> > >> [EE] other message
> > >> [QA] hell if
On Sat, Oct 02, 2021 at 10:53:37PM -0400, Ionen Wolkens wrote:
> Guess there's a lot of other options that could be considered as well.
>
> --- files
> >>> text
> * current, it wasn't aligned now that I look at it again
> (relying only on color to convey type feels clearly wrong to me)
>
> --- f
On 02-10-2021 23:03:56 -0400, Ionen Wolkens wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 02, 2021 at 10:53:37PM -0400, Ionen Wolkens wrote:
> > Guess there's a lot of other options that could be considered as well.
> >
> > --- files
> > >>> text
> > * current, it wasn't aligned now that I look at it again
> > (relying o
On Sun, Oct 03, 2021 at 08:58:00AM +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 02-10-2021 23:03:56 -0400, Ionen Wolkens wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 02, 2021 at 10:53:37PM -0400, Ionen Wolkens wrote:
> > > Guess there's a lot of other options that could be considered as well.
> > >
> > > --- files
> > > >>> text
03.10.2021 07:58, Fabian Groffen пишет:
>
> FWIW, I like this one. Perhaps even with lowercase
>
> make[4]: leaving directory src
> q* soname lacks version
> e* failed to die
>
For me this reads as some kind of censorship to remove profanities from
the output; and my mind is trying to reconstr
On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 17:36 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> I know I'm going to regret asking this... but I've prepared a change to
> the Portage output format and I think it asks for a wider discussion
> than internally in Portage team.
As I suspected, I truly regret sending this mail. I'm dangerou
On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 09:18 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > > Final question, am I understanding correctly that normal lines are not
> > > prefixed with something? Would it be, for consistency, alignment, and
> > > certainty of selecting rows something to use a prefix for those lines
> > > too (a
On 05-10-2021 09:35:32 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-09-30 at 09:18 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > > > Final question, am I understanding correctly that normal lines are not
> > > > prefixed with something? Would it be, for consistency, alignment, and
> > > > certainty of selecting r
On 10/2/21 10:51 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 1:25 PM A Schenck wrote:
>> Further discussion belongs on a different list, but the link provided by
>> mgorny and repeated by you does not allow collaborating in compliance
>> with the Gentoo Social Contract.
> The patches were als
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:48 AM Michał Górny wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2021-09-28 at 17:36 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
> > I know I'm going to regret asking this... but I've prepared a change to
> > the Portage output format and I think it asks for a wider discussion
> > than internally in Portage team.
>
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