Chris Bainbridge wrote:
On 09/06/06, Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, i agree, writting and maintaining ebuilds is a hard and
*time-consuming* task.
So if an user can't even take the time to fix a digest, why we should
support him
officially?.
The point is that there are l
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
On 09/06/06, Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> There are already loads of semi-official overlays. Besides the stuff
> actually hosted by gentoo (random example
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/bzr/overlay/) there are official
> g
On Friday 09 June 2006 12:12, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> This larger group of users are the ones that would benefit
> from an overlay.
And this larger group of people is exactly the same one, that doesn't know to
help itself, if necessary and will suffer the most, when something goes
wrong. This
On 09/06/06, Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, i agree, writting and maintaining ebuilds is a hard and
*time-consuming* task.
So if an user can't even take the time to fix a digest, why we should
support him
officially?.
The point is that there are lots of users who are inte
On 09/06/06, Luis Francisco Araujo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> There are already loads of semi-official overlays. Besides the stuff
> actually hosted by gentoo (random example
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/bzr/overlay/) there are official
> groups (again, not picking
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
On 08/06/06, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do very much object to using any gentoo.org infrastructure or
subdomains to do so. If someone is going to tackle that, it should be
done outside of Gentoo proper. We don't need to be stuck maintaining and
supporting
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
On 08/06/06, foser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't think the problem with maintainer-wanted ebuilds is that they
are crappy, but that there is no dev willing to maintain them and ensure
their quality over time. 'sunrise' (who came up with that name ? cheap
asian poetry
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 22:20 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
> Grant Goodyear wrote:
> > Stefan Schweizer wrote: [Wed Jun 07 2006, 07:42:03PM CDT]
> > My reasoning is that bugzilla provides a
> > place for community development of an ebuild (including commentary!),
> > which would not be true of just the
Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Stefan Schweizer wrote: [Wed Jun 07 2006, 07:42:03PM CDT]
> My reasoning is that bugzilla provides a
> place for community development of an ebuild (including commentary!),
> which would not be true of just the overlay. If one were instead to add
> a magical bugs whiteboard
My intention was to solve some parts with him directly and then send out
some solutions but he wants to do everything on list, so I'm sending it
out for you to know.
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[22:09:15] so after reading your posts I get the impression you
fear that this project will end up in some BMG overla
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 17:48 +0100, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> The time it takes to actually apply fixes etc. is another point.
This is where I'd respectfully disagree.
> Bugzilla is a poor system for sharing and managing the flow of
> ebuilds and patches. It would be nice if there were a way for
Hi,
Both the current discussion as well as the overlay docs don't seem to
cover the support topic as far i could see. This is an issue for us
forums people though - our daily work involves classifying misplaced
threads into officially supported (read: in the tree) and unsupported
(someone installed
Grant Goodyear wrote:
Stefan Schweizer wrote: [Wed Jun 07 2006, 07:42:03PM CDT]
Initially jokey and myself will be working on this. The current focus is to
migrate ebuilds from bugzilla into the overlay and to get contributors to
commit their changes to the overlay instead of updating the bugzi
Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> On 08/06/06, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I do very much object to using any gentoo.org infrastructure or
>> subdomains to do so. If someone is going to tackle that, it should be
>> done outside of Gentoo proper. We don't need to be stuck maintaining and
>> su
On Thursday 08 June 2006 18:59, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> Besides the stuff
> actually hosted by gentoo (random example
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/bzr/overlay/)
That is now actually moved on my own box :) This is going away soon as I have
time to replace it with a fake overlay telling to u
On 08/06/06, Jon Portnoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do very much object to using any gentoo.org infrastructure or
subdomains to do so. If someone is going to tackle that, it should be
done outside of Gentoo proper. We don't need to be stuck maintaining and
supporting a semiofficial overlay.
Stefan Schweizer wrote: [Wed Jun 07 2006, 07:42:03PM CDT]
> Initially jokey and myself will be working on this. The current focus is to
> migrate ebuilds from bugzilla into the overlay and to get contributors to
> commit their changes to the overlay instead of updating the bugzilla every
> time.
I
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> Personally, I dislike the idea of having officially supported (read:
> hosted on *.gentoo.org infrastructure) overlays for unmaintained
> ebuilds for which nobody did any real quality assurance. I fear this
> will drag Gentoo back into the old-ages of having a reputat
On 08/06/06, foser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't think the problem with maintainer-wanted ebuilds is that they
are crappy, but that there is no dev willing to maintain them and ensure
their quality over time. 'sunrise' (who came up with that name ? cheap
asian poetry attempt) doesn't change
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Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Thursday 08 June 2006 02:42, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
>> Initially jokey and myself will be working on this. The current focus is to
>> migrate ebuilds from bugzilla into the overlay and to get contributors to
>> commit their
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 17:45 +0200, foser wrote:
> Instead of tackling the real problem -the lack of maintainers to deal
> with all requests- 'sunrise' is trying to create a backdoor for
> unreliable maintained stuff to enter the tree.
Don't forget the free reign it gives to the sunrise development
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 10:13:45AM -0400, Stephen P. Becker wrote:
> That and it would become an an official Gentoo BMG-style repo. Please,
> let us not officially encourage the ricers. Some of us work very hard
> to discourage this type of user behavior.
I wholeheartedly agree with Stephen on t
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 11:12 -0400, Alec Warner wrote:
> It is my understanding the the Sunrise overlay is not open to "anyone to
> commit", so it is not a contrib/ The sunrise project is the owner of
> the overlay and they are responsible for it's contents. The people
> commiting are responsib
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 11:12 -0400, Alec Warner wrote:
> It is my understanding the the Sunrise overlay is not open to "anyone to
> commit", so it is not a contrib/ The sunrise project is the owner of
> the overlay and they are responsible for it's contents. The people
> commiting are responsib
Jon Portnoy wrote:
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:32:13AM -0400, Thomas Cort wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:20:18 -0400
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Please keep the games bugs in bugzilla. Making this change is a direct
change in games team policy without any prior notice to the ga
On Thursday 08 June 2006 02:42, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> Initially jokey and myself will be working on this. The current focus is to
> migrate ebuilds from bugzilla into the overlay and to get contributors to
> commit their changes to the overlay instead of updating the bugzilla every
> time.
Can
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:32:13AM -0400, Thomas Cort wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:20:18 -0400
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please keep the games bugs in bugzilla. Making this change is a direct
> > change in games team policy without any prior notice to the games team
> >
> Having to troll through some overlay only increases our work load.
>
That and it would become an an official Gentoo BMG-style repo. Please,
let us not officially encourage the ricers. Some of us work very hard
to discourage this type of user behavior.
-Steve
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On Thursday 08 June 2006 15:46, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Having to troll through some overlay only increases our work load.
+1 for chris
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On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 09:32 -0400, Thomas Cort wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:20:18 -0400
> Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please keep the games bugs in bugzilla. Making this change is a direct
> > change in games team policy without any prior notice to the games team
> > and wit
On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:20:18 -0400
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please keep the games bugs in bugzilla. Making this change is a direct
> change in games team policy without any prior notice to the games team
> and without our permission.
No one needs permission to put ebuilds fro
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 02:42 +0200, Stefan Schweizer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have founded a new Gentoo Project for the Gentoo User Overlay.
>
> The intention is to give contributors a single place to put their ebuilds -
> a place where they can be downloaded, updated and be moved to portage more
> easi
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