Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On 12/03/2016 07:00 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Saturday, December 3, 2016 8:59:09 AM EST Michał Górny wrote: >> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:26:53 -0800 >> >> Daniel Campbell wrote: >>> On 12/02/2016 10:47 AM, Michał Górny wrote: I'd say keeping things lowercase

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 21:16:05 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Dec 2016, Michał Górny wrote: > > > Thanks, Kent, I think this is the best way to put it so far. > > Could you try to fit it into a devmanual patch? > > There is no consensus about such a change of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

> On Sat, 3 Dec 2016, Michał Górny wrote: > Thanks, Kent, I think this is the best way to put it so far. > Could you try to fit it into a devmanual patch? There is no consensus about such a change of policy. Ulrich pgp6TzQtyFO0X.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 08:09:31PM -0800, Nick Vinson wrote: > > On 12/02/2016 10:28 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > >> The devmanual states: > >> The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, > >> the digits 0-9, hyphens,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 04:50:49 +1300 Kent Fredric wrote: > On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 08:14:26 +0100 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > The ebuild has to be written only once, while users will type the > > package name many times. > > An ebuild will require maintaining

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 11:01:32 -0500 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 01:04:17AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 09:49:59PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote > >> >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 1:48 AM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 01:04:17AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 09:49:59PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote >> > >> > So, should we clean up / rename packages that do not follow this as we >> > find

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 08:14:26 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > The ebuild has to be written only once, while users will type the > package name many times. An ebuild will require maintaining 10x the number of times users need to specify the cat/pn of that package. An ebuild will

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Ben Kohler wrote: >> >> Keep in mind some will emerge libraries dependencies for their own >> projects >> and development. They do not always have to be merged as a dependency of >> another package. >> >> It might be confusing to know when it is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

> > > Keep in mind some will emerge libraries dependencies for their own projects > and development. They do not always have to be merged as a dependency of > another package. > > It might be confusing to know when it is acceptable to use mixed case and > not. > > -- > William L. Thomson Jr. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Saturday, December 3, 2016 8:59:09 AM EST Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:26:53 -0800 > > Daniel Campbell wrote: > > On 12/02/2016 10:47 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > > I'd say keeping things lowercase makes sense for end user packages. For > > > pure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Sat, 3 Dec 2016 00:12:53 -0800 Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 12/02/2016 11:55 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:21:34 -0800 > > Daniel Campbell wrote: > > > >> On 12/02/2016 10:45 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > >>> On 02/12/16 01:31 PM,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On 12/02/2016 11:55 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:21:34 -0800 > Daniel Campbell wrote: > >> On 12/02/2016 10:45 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >>> On 02/12/16 01:31 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:24:29 -0500 Mike Gilbert

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On 12/02/2016 11:59 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:26:53 -0800 > Daniel Campbell wrote: > >> On 12/02/2016 10:47 AM, Michał Górny wrote: >>> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 >>> Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> The devmanual states:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:26:53 -0800 Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 12/02/2016 10:47 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 > > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > >> The devmanual states: > >> > >> The name section should contain only lowercase

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 23:21:34 -0800 Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 12/02/2016 10:45 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > > On 02/12/16 01:31 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:24:29 -0500 > >> Mike Gilbert wrote: > >>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:10

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

> We could make a more "user friendly" feature by setting up bash > completion for package names, but that sounds a) daunting, b) > error-prone, and c) probably not worth the time spent writing the > script(s) necessary. By the way, the ones for zsh is already done and working (even for sets).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On 12/02/2016 10:47 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> The devmanual states: >> >> The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, >> the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and plus characters. Uppercase

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On 12/02/2016 08:09 PM, Nick Vinson wrote: > > [snip] > Personally, I've disliked that differentiation. Most people don't pay > close enough attention to such things. For example, how many people > think iOS and IOS are the same thing? > > -Nicholas Vinson Anyone familiar with Wii homebrew

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On 12/02/2016 10:45 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > On 02/12/16 01:31 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:24:29 -0500 >> Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Ciaran McCreesh >>> wrote: On Fri, 2 Dec 2016

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 01:04:17AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 09:49:59PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote > > > > So, should we clean up / rename packages that do not follow this as we > > find them, like my ConfigArgParse example? > > find /usr/portage -name *.ebuild | grep

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 09:49:59PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote > > So, should we clean up / rename packages that do not follow this as we > find them, like my ConfigArgParse example? find /usr/portage -name *.ebuild | grep [A-Z] | sed "s/-[0-9].*//" | sort -u > upper.txt ...gives 1814 *UNIQUE*

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On 12/02/2016 10:28 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> The devmanual states: >> The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, >> the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and plus characters. Uppercase >> characters are strongly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 04:13:48PM -0500, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 > > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > >> The devmanual states: > >> > >> The name section should contain only

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> The devmanual states: >> >> The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, >> the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:38:19 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:47:01PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 > > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > > > The devmanual states: > > > > > > The name section should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:38:19 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:47:01PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 > > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > > > The devmanual states: > > > > > > The name section should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:47:01PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > The devmanual states: > > > > The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, > > the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and plus

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 Mike Gilbert wrote: > The devmanual states: > > The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, > the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and plus characters. Uppercase > characters are strongly discouraged, but technically

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On 02/12/16 01:31 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:24:29 -0500 > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Ciaran McCreesh >> wrote: >>> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 >>> Mike Gilbert

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:24:29 -0500 > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Ciaran McCreesh >> wrote: >> > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> The devmanual states: >> The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, >> the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and plus characters. Uppercase >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

> On Fri, 2 Dec 2016, Mike Gilbert wrote: > The devmanual states: > The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, > the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and plus characters. Uppercase > characters are strongly discouraged, but technically valid. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:24:29 -0500 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Ciaran McCreesh > wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 > > Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> The devmanual states: > >> > >> The name

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 > Mike Gilbert wrote: >> The devmanual states: >> >> The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, >> the digits 0-9, hyphens,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

Ühel kenal päeval, R, 02.12.2016 kell 13:02, kirjutas Mike Gilbert: > The devmanual states: > > The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, > the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and plus characters. Uppercase > characters are strongly discouraged, but technically valid.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 Mike Gilbert wrote: > The devmanual states: > > The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, > the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and plus characters. Uppercase > characters are strongly discouraged, but technically

Re: [gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

On Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:02:48 -0500 Mike Gilbert wrote: > The devmanual states: > > The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, > the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and plus characters. Uppercase > characters are strongly discouraged, but technically

[gentoo-dev] Uppercase characters in package names

The devmanual states: The name section should contain only lowercase non-accented letters, the digits 0-9, hyphens, underscores and plus characters. Uppercase characters are strongly discouraged, but technically valid. https://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/file-format/index.html Why are