Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC: Need to start net.eth1 and ntp-client by hand

2011-05-12 Thread Thanasis
on 05/12/2011 06:13 AM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote the following: Hi, after upgradeing to openrc there still some issues... 1) After reboot eth1 (there was/is no eth0!) is up and running (according to ifconfig) but ping site returns unknown host. After calling

[gentoo-user] Re: Update nvidia-drivers

2011-05-12 Thread Hartmut Figge
meino.cra...@gmx.de: this morning there was an update to nvidia-drivers-270.41.06. I am back to 270.41.03 because dosemu caused a high load and games with it acted poorly. Haven't investigated further. Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: Update nvidia-drivers

2011-05-12 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge: I am back to 270.41.03 because dosemu caused a high load... dosbox, not dosemu. ;) Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Wednesday 11 May 2011 07:27:32 Dale wrote: Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, Dale. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 04:55:01PM -0500, Dale wrote: Hi folks, I was curious, what's the results of the openrc update for people that have done theirs? Is it pretty simple and just works or are

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC: Need to start net.eth1 and ntp-client by hand

2011-05-12 Thread Mick
2011/5/12 Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org: on 05/12/2011 06:13 AM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote the following: Hi, after upgradeing to openrc there still some issues... 1) After reboot eth1 (there was/is no eth0!) is up and    running (according to ifconfig) but         ping site    

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC: Need to start net.eth1 and ntp-client by hand

2011-05-12 Thread Mick
On 12 May 2011 09:27, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/5/12 Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org: on 05/12/2011 06:13 AM meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote the following: Hi, after upgradeing to openrc there still some issues... 1) After reboot eth1 (there was/is no eth0!) is up and    

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Mick
On 11 May 2011 15:43, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 15:45 on Wednesday 11 May 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 05/11/2011 02:50 AM, Dale wrote: [...] What do you know, I upgraded and it worked. Now if I can just get

Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC: Need to start net.eth1 and ntp-client by hand

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On 12 May 2011 09:27, Mickmichaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: This will only work if the OP first reads the migration web page[1] that the devs have kindly provided and included in the elog of KDE 4.6, which explicitly states that the net.eth0 - net.lo symlink may need to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: depclean after kde-4.6 upgrade

2011-05-12 Thread Mick
On 12 May 2011 06:31, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 11 May 2011 23:26:18 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 05/12/2011 12:28 AM, Mick wrote: Having completed the upgrade I noticed that a few packages are being called up for removal:   sys-apps/dmidecode      selected:

Re: [gentoo-user] Update nvidia-drivers

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, this morning there was an update to nvidia-drivers-270.41.06. After running dmesg I found this: ioremap error for 0x9a000-0x9b000, requested 0x10, got 0x0 ioremap error for 0xcfe9-0xcfe91000, requested 0x10, got 0x0 I dont know, whether this is

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread dong l
个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ 2011/5/12 刘勇泰 lyt...@gmail.com: Hello everyone. I am going to build a new gentoo box. Will the next auto-build stage tar ball (2011-5-12) for amd64 include the OpenRC update? If so I will not suffer the baselayout updating.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Mike Edenfield wrote: On 5/11/2011 6:51 PM, Dale wrote: Does this look more better? root@fireball / # locale LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF8 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF8 LC_PAPER, is that like paper in my

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:56:05PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote Possibly one more problem, rdate seems to have stopped working for me. I've opened a separate thread on that. Not really. It seems that rdate is being dprecated in favour of NTP. I found an rdate

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
James Wall wrote: On May 11, 2011 4:38 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com mailto:w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/11/2011 03:10 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2011 04:55:46 -0500, Dale wrote: I'll leave it like it is I guess. I like all the little green OK's that scroll up anyway.

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Joost Roeleveld wrote: I actually did mine before noticing this thread and didn't actually pay much attention to it all. Not had any issues and didn't need to spend much time in fixing anything. The only problem I had was that /etc/init.d/eth0 had dissapeared. That was easily fixed. -- Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:40 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Walter Dnes did opine thusly: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 05:45:07PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote KDE devs decided to take the risk and make the jump ahead of the curve. Coca Cola went from Coke Classic to New Coke; at least they

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Prevent depclean from removing Python-2.6?

2011-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 04:13 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Kevin O'Gorman did opine thusly: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently so. It seems like it ought to pay attention to eselect. If I've explicitly configured my system to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 11 May 2011 20:40:02 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: KDE devs decided to take the risk and make the jump ahead of the curve. Coca Cola went from Coke Classic to New Coke; at least they had the guts to admit that it was a bad idea, and reverse it. IBM walked away from their

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/12/2011 5:21 AM, Dale wrote: Mike Edenfield wrote: On 5/11/2011 6:51 PM, Dale wrote: Does this look more better? root@fireball / # locale LC_PAPER=en_US.UTF8 LC_NAME=en_US.UTF8 LC_ADDRESS=en_US.UTF8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.UTF8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.UTF8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.UTF8 The

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: 个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ huh? 2011/5/12 刘勇泰 lyt...@gmail.com: Hello everyone. I am going to build a new gentoo box. Will the next auto-build stage tar ball (2011-5-12) for amd64 include the OpenRC update? If so I will not suffer

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:00:01PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 11 May 2011 20:40:02 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: KDE devs decided to take the risk and make the jump ahead of the curve. Coca Cola went from Coke Classic to New Coke; at least they had the guts to admit that

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Thursday 12 May 2011 04:25:58 Dale wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: I actually did mine before noticing this thread and didn't actually pay much attention to it all. Not had any issues and didn't need to spend much time in fixing anything. The only problem I had was that

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: 个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ huh? It surely does look cool though, wish I could read and write in such a picturesque manner. :) -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: The pattern I see is that of selecting only changes that failed and implying they are the norm. Why not add other improvements that were so bad, like the switch from floppy disks to hard disks, or CDs to DVDs? Companies try to predict where the market should go so they can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Mike Edenfield wrote: They're already set, as your locale output showed :) The definitions of those various formats are built into the locale definitions, so they should have the same value as all your other LC_* variables. You can see your locale's idea of what those things mean in the

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 04:25:58 Dale wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: I actually did mine before noticing this thread and didn't actually pay much attention to it all. Not had any issues and didn't need to spend much time in fixing anything. The only problem I

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: 个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ huh? Remember the old saying, 'you can say that again'? Let's not. I didn't understand it the first time and won't the next time either. lol I got a friend that lived

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:54 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Neil Bothwick wrote: The pattern I see is that of selecting only changes that failed and implying they are the norm. Why not add other improvements that were so bad, like the switch from floppy

Re: [gentoo-user] Update nvidia-drivers

2011-05-12 Thread Xiangru Chen
Hi, I'm using nvidia-drivers-270.41.03 and got those too. ioremap error for 0xbf7ef000-0xbf7f, requested 0x10, got 0x0 Regards -- Xiangru Chen On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, this morning there was an update to

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread Xiangru Chen
He said that, according to his experiences, updating baselayout isn't really suffering. Regards On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: 个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ huh? Remember

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: They can do any damn thing they want to with their code. They also you owe support for it in exactly the same amount you paid for it. Which is to say nothing. It's not a question of should, it's only a question of Dale would prefer it if So, you think most of the KDE

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 03:50:02PM +0200, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: They can do any damn thing they want to with their code. They also you owe support for it in exactly the same amount you paid for it. Which is to say nothing. It's not a question of should, it's only a question

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread Thanasis
on 05/12/2011 03:43 PM Indi wrote the following: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: 个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ huh? It surely does look cool though, wish I could read and write in such a picturesque

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread JDM
Up until a few weeks ago I have never used kde opting for xfce and openbox and cannot make any comments about kde3 and upgrade. I always preferred the lighter desktops. I really like 4.x, it has lots of features and seems to me at least, very easy to use (intuitive). So perhaps the kde team

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 12 May 2011 08:46:32 -0500, Dale wrote: So, you think most of the KDE users were happy to see support for KDE3 being dropped, especially considering KDE4 was much less than stable? For me and a lot of others, it was worthless at first. It was good eye candy but not functional

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:00 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: I had 8 users on kde before 3 was deprecated in 2009. Now I have zero. It was a harrowing time, switching everyone to gnome, finding that is not so hot, finally putting them on xfce. If xfce gets a wild

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Indi wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 03:50:02PM +0200, Dale wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: They can do any damn thing they want to with their code. They also you owe support for it in exactly the same amount you paid for it. Which is to say nothing. It's not a question of should, it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 12 May 2011 07:54:13 -0500, Dale wrote: I just hope they also learned from their mistakes. Dropping KDE3 support long before KDE4 was ready was a big one. That shouldn't be repeated. If it's as good as everyone says, what more support did it need? Did the KDE guys come knocking on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2011 08:46:32 -0500, Dale wrote: So, you think most of the KDE users were happy to see support for KDE3 being dropped, especially considering KDE4 was much less than stable? For me and a lot of others, it was worthless at first. It was good eye candy

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 04:30:02PM +0200, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2011 07:54:13 -0500, Dale wrote: I just hope they also learned from their mistakes. Dropping KDE3 support long before KDE4 was ready was a big one. That shouldn't be repeated. If it's as good as everyone

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 04:40:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:00 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: I had 8 users on kde before 3 was deprecated in 2009. Now I have zero. It was a harrowing time, switching everyone to gnome, finding that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Indi wrote: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 04:40:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:00 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: I had 8 users on kde before 3 was deprecated in 2009. Now I have zero. It was a harrowing time, switching everyone to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/12/2011 9:25 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:54 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Neil Bothwick wrote: The pattern I see is that of selecting only changes that failed and implying they are the norm. Why not add other improvements that were

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Stroller
On 12/5/2011, at 12:31am, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Wednesday 11 May 2011 22:14:55 Mike Edenfield wrote: The only problem with LC_ALL is that it overrides all of the other LC_* variables. - which is precisely what most ordinary desktop users want. No, I think they want all locale

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: `date +%l:%M%P` Here's mine: root@fireball / # date +%l:%M%P 12:19pm root@fireball / # Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: depclean after kde-4.6 upgrade

2011-05-12 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 11 May 2011 23:26:28 Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: kde-base/knetworkconf selected: 4.4.5 protected: none omitted: none Is asking to be removed, but there isn't a 4.6 version. Has it been replaced by

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 12 May 2011 18:06:27 Stroller wrote: Could you possibly post the output of `date +%l:%M%P`? In doing so you'd be doing me a favour. $ date +%l:%M%P 8:39 That's the wall-clock time (p.m.) in my local time-zone. What Americans call daylight savings time, though how they imagine

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 12 May 2011 10:23:42 Dale wrote: If ntp gives you grief, try chrony. I use ntp on one machine where ntp works well and chrony on my main rig since ntp sucks on it. Weird but it works. I've been using chrony for years. It's a nice piece of code: it keeps the clock in sync,

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 12 May 2011 14:00:16 Dale wrote: Hindsight. 20/20 as always. LOL I just wish my eyes was. What? In the back of your head? :) -- Rgds Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:00:02PM +0200, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 14:00:16 Dale wrote: Hindsight. 20/20 as always. LOL I just wish my eyes was. What? In the back of your head? :) My hair hides the eyes in the back of my head (and hides my horns, too). --

[gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread che
Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org writes: On Wednesday 11 May 2011 22:14:55 Mike Edenfield wrote: The only problem with LC_ALL is that it overrides all of the other LC_* variables. - which is precisely what most ordinary desktop users want. Most perhaps, but certainly not all. For me

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Mick
On Thursday 12 May 2011 18:20:15 Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: `date +%l:%M%P` Here's mine: root@fireball / # date +%l:%M%P 12:19pm root@fireball / # Dale $ date +%l:%M%P 9:23 $ locale LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_GB.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 14:00:16 Dale wrote: Hindsight. 20/20 as always. LOL I just wish my eyes was. What? In the back of your head? :) You know, you do something then look back and wish you had done it differently. Then again, I have arthritis in

[gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Felix Miata
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6 seems to have a circular reference, that is, suggesting the use of the subject utility prior to chrooting and having any such utility in $PATH. I've never installed Gentoo before, so maybe I've missed something. Or maybe that

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6 seems to have a circular reference, that is, suggesting the use of the subject utility prior to chrooting and having any such utility in $PATH. I've

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Todd Goodman
* Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net [110512 16:15]: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6 seems to have a circular reference, that is, suggesting the use of the subject utility prior to chrooting and having any such utility in $PATH. I've never installed Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:06 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 04:40:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:00 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: I had 8 users on kde before 3 was deprecated in

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:41 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Felix Miata did opine thusly: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6 seems to have a circular reference, that is, suggesting the use of the subject utility prior to chrooting and having any such

[gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-12 Thread Tanstaafl
Probably a dumb one, but... I have /home, /usr and /var on separate partitions... If I want to image my system prior to the update 'just in case' something goes south, am I correct that all I need to worry about is /, since /etc is located there? In other words, is anything on /usr or /var

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:50:02PM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6 seems to have a circular reference, that is, suggesting the use of the subject utility prior to chrooting and having any such utility in $PATH. I've never installed

Re: [gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:00 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Tanstaafl did opine thusly: Probably a dumb one, but... I have /home, /usr and /var on separate partitions... If I want to image my system prior to the update 'just in case' something goes south, am I correct that all I need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:38 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2011 08:46:32 -0500, Dale wrote: So, you think most of the KDE users were happy to see support for KDE3 being dropped, especially considering KDE4 was much less than

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:10:03PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:06 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 04:40:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:00 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:19 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: You might be correct, but I very much doubt it. I will say though that it's almost a certainty the type of user who uses kde4 is probably different from those who used kde3. There you go again,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Stroller
On 12/5/2011, at 6:20pm, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: `date +%l:%M%P` Here's mine: root@fireball / # date +%l:%M%P 12:19pm root@fireball / # And what are your locale settings? Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:38 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2011 08:46:32 -0500, Dale wrote: So, you think most of the KDE users were happy to see support for KDE3 being dropped, especially

Re: [gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:00 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Tanstaafl did opine thusly: Probably a dumb one, but... I have /home, /usr and /var on separate partitions... If I want to image my system prior to the update 'just in case' something goes south, am I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Stroller
On 12/5/2011, at 8:41pm, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 18:06:27 Stroller wrote: Could you possibly post the output of `date +%l:%M%P`? In doing so you'd be doing me a favour. $ date +%l:%M%P 8:39 That's the wall-clock time (p.m.) in my local time-zone. What

[gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread walt
On 05/12/2011 07:00 AM, Indi wrote: ...It was a harrowing time, switching everyone to gnome, finding that is not so hot... Just curious: what sort of complaints did you get about gnome?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:30:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 16:38 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Dale did opine thusly: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2011 08:46:32 -0500, Dale wrote: So, you think most of the KDE users were happy to see support for

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:50:02PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:19 on Thursday 12 May 2011, Indi did opine thusly: You might be correct, but I very much doubt it. I will say though that it's almost a certainty the type of user who uses kde4 is probably

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:30:01AM +0200, walt wrote: On 05/12/2011 07:00 AM, Indi wrote: ...It was a harrowing time, switching everyone to gnome, finding that is not so hot... Just curious: what sort of complaints did you get about gnome? Oh to be honest I think most of the complaints

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Dale
Stroller wrote: On 12/5/2011, at 6:20pm, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: `date +%l:%M%P` Here's mine: root@fireball / # date +%l:%M%P 12:19pm root@fireball / # And what are your locale settings? Stroller. root@fireball / # locale LANG=en_US.UTF8

[gentoo-user] Re: Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread masterprometheus
Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: ?baselayout?suffer,??? huh? Google Translate : **Personal experience, baselayout how updates are in fact not suffer, Oh~ ** Xiangru Chen's translation is a bit better, I must admit.

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/12 17:03 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: On 2011/05/12 16:41 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6 seems to have a circular reference, that is, suggesting the use of the subject utility prior to chrooting and having any

Re: [gentoo-user] Pre OpenRC update question...

2011-05-12 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 13/05/2011 5:00 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: Probably a dumb one, but... I have /home, /usr and /var on separate partitions... If I want to image my system prior to the update 'just in case' something goes south, am I correct that all I need to worry about is /, since /etc is located there? In

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2011/05/12 17:03 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: On 2011/05/12 16:41 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed:  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6 seems to  have a circular reference, that is,

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 02:20:01AM +0200, Felix Miata wrote: On 2011/05/12 17:03 (GMT-0400) Indi composed: On 2011/05/12 16:41 (GMT-0400) Felix Miata composed: Since I'm familiar and happy with mirrors.us.kernel.org performance, I might rather use that, or rsync.us.gentoo.org (if that's

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:06 on Friday 13 May 2011, Felix Miata did opine thusly: I guess I missed the requirement to be running Gentoo to be able to initiate an install of Gentoo. This is not correct I thought whatever Linux was already installed would be good enough, this is

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread 刘勇泰
2011/5/12 Indi thebeelzebubtrig...@gmail.com On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: 个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ huh? It surely does look cool though, wish I could read and write in such a picturesque

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread 刘勇泰
2011/5/12 Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org on 05/12/2011 03:43 PM Indi wrote the following: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote: 个人经历,baselayout的更新其实都不怎么suffer,呵呵~ huh? It surely does look cool though,

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/05/13 02:37 (GMT+0200) Alan McKinnon composed: That part of the doc assumes that the user is indeed running from the LiveCD-like environment provided by the official installer. There are other docs (far less verbose in their explanations) covering alternate install sources. My actual

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/12/2011 9:27 PM, 刘勇泰 wrote: 2011/5/12 Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org mailto:thana...@asyr.hopto.org on 05/12/2011 03:43 PM Indi wrote the following: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] Will the next auto-build stage tar ball include OpenRC update?

2011-05-12 Thread Indi
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 03:40:01AM +0200, 刘勇泰 wrote: 2011/5/12 Thanasis [1]thana...@asyr.hopto.org on 05/12/2011 03:43 PM Indi wrote the following: On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 02:40:02PM +0200, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 12 May 2011 17:12:30 dong l wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] mirrorselect on new install

2011-05-12 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 5/12/2011 8:06 PM, Felix Miata wrote: In the pages preceding http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=6 it seemed as though the process would be easy enough, having built up some experience working in chroot lately to fix fubar'd Fedora and Mandriva rpm database

Re: [gentoo-user] How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread Manuel McLure
Just ran into a gotcha with my main server upgrade to openrc/baselayout2 - it appears that the old ifconfig network syntax no longer works. I kept getting the message: Error: either local is duplicate, or netmask is garbage until I changed the syntax from config_eth0=XX.YY.ZZ.WW broadcast

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

2011-05-12 Thread pk
On 2011-05-12 23:44, Dale wrote: Your questions don't disprove what me and others have posted. As I have I think Alans point is that while the KDE developers (volunteers, or paid for) have certain goals which may or may not be tangential to yours (clearly, in the case of KDE3 vs KDE4 they are