Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/passwd entry query

2013-10-21 Thread Mick
On Monday 21 Oct 2013 20:26:20 Daniel Frey wrote: > On 10/21/2013 04:39 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Adam Carter wrote: > > I probably haven't looked at this file for years, but it contains > > > > named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/sbin/nologin > > #named:x:40:40:a

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 11:45:35AM +1100, Adam Carter wrote: > If you havent already, I would first verify that its actually CPU bound, > before changing CFLAGs and recompiling everything. So take a look at top, > vmstat, mpstat etc when you're noticing slowness. If it is truely CPU bound > and you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Console won't un-blank

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 08:02:50PM +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 10:40:32PM +0200, Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 21:02:13 -0400, Michael J. Barillier wrote: > > > > > If I leave my laptop unattended (at a console, not X) and the screen > > > blanks,

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Adam Carter
If you havent already, I would first verify that its actually CPU bound, before changing CFLAGs and recompiling everything. So take a look at top, vmstat, mpstat etc when you're noticing slowness. If it is truely CPU bound and you're going to recompile everything, you could consider upgrading to th

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Alecks Gates
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > on my netbook Acer Aspire One D255 is running Gentoo amd64 but its so slow. > I have Samsung NC10 and there is running Gentoo better and that i understand > not so really. > > What Cflags i should use, at moment i use > > CFLAGS="-

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:45:40 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> From testing, it turned out to be a BIOS setting and some things that >> isn't supported in 64 bit Linux. Basically, you have to hack your way >> into getting something to work. If I could pass the right option to the >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:45:40 -0500, Dale wrote: > From testing, it turned out to be a BIOS setting and some things that > isn't supported in 64 bit Linux. Basically, you have to hack your way > into getting something to work. If I could pass the right option to the > kernel on sysrescue then it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
Edward M wrote: > On 10/21/2013 2:13 AM, Dale wrote: >> While I like Gigabyte as a brand, if this is going to be something >> that reduces the value of my purchase, I want to get something else. > > > Appears IOMMU is becoming an industry standard and is also being > used by other motherboard

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Edward M
On 10/21/2013 2:13 AM, Dale wrote: While I like Gigabyte as a brand, if this is going to be something that reduces the value of my purchase, I want to get something else. Appears IOMMU is becoming an industry standard and is also being used by other motherboard makers. http://en.wikip

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [O/T] RAID help - now won't boot

2013-10-21 Thread Mick
On Monday 21 Oct 2013 09:55:42 J. Roeleveld wrote: > Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > >I believe it would only be possible by installing the system on the > >degraded RAID, which will likely mean coming back to the original swap > >problem. > > That is why I suggested installing on a normal single disk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
Daniel Frey wrote: > On 10/21/2013 02:13 AM, Dale wrote: >> Tyan is a mobo I have heard good things about. I think someone gave me >> a puter to repair once that had a ASUS mobo. It seemed to be a nice >> mobo. Pity the guys house caught fire from the central heat tho. I'm >> open to ideas here

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 21.10.2013 11:55, schrieb Tanstaafl: > On 2013-10-20 9:14 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >> Linus isnt actually actively developing the kernel nowadays. Mostly he >> just merges commits from his "trusted lieutenants" in charge of various >> subsystems. The notion of Linus as being at the helm is

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 20.10.2013 13:18, schrieb Daniel Campbell: > On 10/20/2013 06:02 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 20.10.2013 12:52, schrieb Daniel Campbell: >>> On 10/20/2013 04:24 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am 20.10.2013 08:34, schrieb Daniel Campbell: > hm, Redhat is one of the companies in

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/passwd entry query

2013-10-21 Thread Daniel Frey
On 10/21/2013 04:39 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > Adam Carter wrote: > > I probably haven't looked at this file for years, but it contains > > named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/sbin/nologin > #named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/bin/bash > > #postfix:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Daniel Frey
On 10/21/2013 02:13 AM, Dale wrote: > Tyan is a mobo I have heard good things about. I think someone gave me > a puter to repair once that had a ASUS mobo. It seemed to be a nice > mobo. Pity the guys house caught fire from the central heat tho. I'm > open to ideas here. > > Basically, I want

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean - entire portage tree scrolling by

2013-10-21 Thread Joseph
On 10/21/13 19:05, Randolph Maaßen wrote: Have you set --verbose (-v) in make.conf as emerge default opts? References 1. mailto:syscon...@gmail.com Yes, that was it. Thanks :-/ -- Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:54:05PM -0500, Dale wrote: >> William Kenworthy wrote: >>> On 21/10/13 11:09, Dale wrote: I rebooted and the newest sysrescue still wouldn't boot up. It says it can't find /sysrcd.dat which I think is caused because it can't use

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean - entire portage tree scrolling by

2013-10-21 Thread Randolph Maaßen
On Oct 21, 2013 6:59 PM, "Joseph" wrote: > > When I run: emerge --depclean entire portage tree scrolling by what is causing it? > > It should be something like this: > emerge --depclean -p > > * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious > * mistakes. Packages that are part of

[gentoo-user] emerge --depclean - entire portage tree scrolling by

2013-10-21 Thread Joseph
When I run: emerge --depclean entire portage tree scrolling by what is causing it? It should be something like this: emerge --depclean -p * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious * mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always * be kept. They can be man

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread housegregory299
В письме от 21 октября 2013 18:40:27 пользователь Frank Steinmetzger написал: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:09:58PM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:15:30 +0200 Frank Steinmetzger > > > > wrote: > > > Do they have different amounts of RAM installed? My netbook

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 06:09:58PM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:15:30 +0200 Frank Steinmetzger > wrote: > > > Do they have different amounts of RAM installed? My netbook ran OK > > with 1 GB, but was very limited, especially once Firefox was loaded. > > 2 GB sh

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:15:30 +0200 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Do they have different amounts of RAM installed? My netbook ran OK > with 1 GB, but was very limited, especially once Firefox was loaded. > 2 GB should be the minimum if you use a big desktop. No its only 1 GB. I use XFCE4 an

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 09:20:42AM -0600, Joseph wrote: > I have four core: > Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz Wikipedia says otherwise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Atom_microprocessors#Dual-core_Nettop_processors -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Joseph
I have four core: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz CFLAGS="-march=core2 -O2 -pipe" CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" MAKEOPTS="-j5" -- Joseph On 10/21/13 16:09, Silvio Siefke wrote: Hello, on my netbook Acer Aspire One D255 is running Gentoo amd64 but its so slow. I have Samsung NC10 and there is ru

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 04:09:11PM +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > on my netbook Acer Aspire One D255 is running Gentoo amd64 but its so slow. > I have Samsung NC10 and there is running Gentoo better and that i understand > not so really. Do they have different amounts of RAM installed?

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, On Mon, 21 Oct 2013 15:33:37 +0100 thegeezer wrote: > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/CFLAGS > > use native - it does the working out for you if GCC is new > CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe" Ok thank you. Hope then better. Now compile orgy so 2 days and i have finished. Thank you & Nice D

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 10:54:05PM -0500, Dale wrote: > William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 21/10/13 11:09, Dale wrote: > >> > >> I rebooted and the newest sysrescue still wouldn't boot up. It says it > >> can't find /sysrcd.dat which I think is caused because it can't use the > >> USB port that the s

Re: [gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread thegeezer
On 10/21/2013 03:09 PM, Silvio Siefke wrote: > Hello, > > on my netbook Acer Aspire One D255 is running Gentoo amd64 but its so slow. > I have Samsung NC10 and there is running Gentoo better and that i understand > not so really. > > What Cflags i should use, at moment i use > > CFLAGS="-O2 -march

[gentoo-user] cflags for atom

2013-10-21 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, on my netbook Acer Aspire One D255 is running Gentoo amd64 but its so slow. I have Samsung NC10 and there is running Gentoo better and that i understand not so really. What Cflags i should use, at moment i use CFLAGS="-O2 -march=atom -mtune=atom -mssse3 -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-21 7:10 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: Read the management style doc. Seriously, it describes the kernel's outlook on mistakes. My main point wasn't about 'mistakes' and you know it, so please stop being so obtuse. Ostracization and talk of severing limbs like cancer tumors, as is

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/passwd entry query

2013-10-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
Adam Carter wrote: >I probably haven't looked at this file for years, but it contains > >named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/sbin/nologin >#named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/bin/bash > >#postfix:x:207:207:added by portage for >postfix:/var/spool/postfix:/sbin/nologi

[gentoo-user] /etc/passwd entry query

2013-10-21 Thread Adam Carter
I probably haven't looked at this file for years, but it contains named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/sbin/nologin #named:x:40:40:added by portage for bind:/etc/bind:/bin/bash #postfix:x:207:207:added by portage for postfix:/var/spool/postfix:/sbin/nologin postfix:x:207:207:added b

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Oct 21, 2013 7:01 PM, "Tanstaafl" wrote: > > On 2013-10-21 6:48 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >> >> Again. This power is overstated and overtrusted. As for "rip it out at >> its roots" he has no ability to do that, only refuse to merge it in >> his tree. > > > Which I believe is a much bigger d

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-21 6:48 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: Again. This power is overstated and overtrusted. As for "rip it out at its roots" he has no ability to do that, only refuse to merge it in his tree. Which I believe is a much bigger deal than you seem to think. But that's only if he bothers to

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-10-21 6:11 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >> >> I doubt he actually has the time to read every line of code submitted >> to the kernel, > > > That isn't what I meant at all... > > What he *does* have the power to do, though, is if someone

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-21 6:11 AM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: I doubt he actually has the time to read every line of code submitted to the kernel, That isn't what I meant at all... What he *does* have the power to do, though, is if someone was able to sneak in something outrageously bad that caused breaka

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-10-20 9:14 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >> >> Linus isnt actually actively developing the kernel nowadays. Mostly he >> just merges commits from his "trusted lieutenants" in charge of various >> subsystems. The notion of Linus as being a

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-10-20 9:14 PM, Mark David Dumlao wrote: Linus isnt actually actively developing the kernel nowadays. Mostly he just merges commits from his "trusted lieutenants" in charge of various subsystems. The notion of Linus as being at the helm is mostly just a convenient fiction that corporate c

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Tablets

2013-10-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:49:44 +0200, Silvio Siefke wrote: > use someone a tablet with Gentoo or alternatives? I want me buy a > tablets, but im not sure i can familiar use Android. Has someone a > tablet with gentoo or other Distri running? The Nexus 7 can certainly be used with other distros. I t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Dale wrote: > > > Update. I did some googling and found out that I have to add " > iommu=pt" to the kernel command line. When I do that, it works fine. > It seems that this mobo doesn't play > well with 64 bit Linux. Some even > sai

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change

2013-10-21 Thread Dale
Edward M wrote: > On 10/20/2013 9:27 PM, Dale wrote: >> I did some googling and found out that I have to add " >> iommu=pt" to the kernel command line. When I do that, it works fine. > > In the UEFI/BIOS menus; does it have a "|IOMMU Controller" > option and if > it does, try enabling

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [O/T] RAID help - now won't boot

2013-10-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: >The 21/10/13, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >>Other option: >>1 install to single disk >> >>2 using sysresccd create a degraded raid1 using the 2nd drive >> >>3 copy the partitions and date from drive 1 to the degraded raid >device > >What is "copy the date"? A

[gentoo-user] Re: [O/T] RAID help - now won't boot

2013-10-21 Thread Nicolas Sebrecht
The 21/10/13, J. Roeleveld wrote: > Ha! Yes, this made a difference, thanks! With metadata 0.90 I can see the > same partitions I set up on /dev/md0, also on /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. Sorry to come back late in this thread. As other contributors pointed out correctly, the problem was RAID metada

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 21/10/13 08:31, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 10/20/2013 09:34 PM, Walter Dnes wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote >> >>> That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but >>> from top of my head: >>> We will maintain a minimal patchset

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and kernel developers cooperating to turn it into a global cgroup manager?

2013-10-21 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 21/10/13 05:34, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 05:03:51PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote > >> That's a bridge we will cross when there is a bridge to be crossed, but >> from top of my head: >> We will maintain a minimal patchset that reverts the offending code. >> >> As in, that's n