lee wrote:
> Dale writes:
>
>> lee wrote:
>>> Daniel Frey writes:
>>>
On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote:
> "Walter Dnes" writes:
>
>> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one
>> ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0.
> Since 10
Why
> Or can you explain how unrecognisable names make things easier?
Yeah they make life easier. From your talk you never had a problem with
eth<0,10> switching names after boot. Everyone who had them appreciates
predictable network interfaces.
If you don't like them you can disable them in udev
Andrej Rode writes:
>>> It is even more frustrating that these so-called predictable network
>>> names actually can change on a reboot, it's happened to me more than
>>> once when multiple network cards are detected in a different order.
>
> Then you might found a bug? With predictable network na
"taii...@gmx.com" writes:
> It is just another swell example of the pottering-eqsue corruption of
> the free software movement.
Was that really his idea?
Dale writes:
> lee wrote:
>> Daniel Frey writes:
>>
>>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote:
"Walter Dnes" writes:
> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one
> ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0.
Since 10 years or so, the defaul
Jorge Almeida writes:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:40 PM, lee wrote:
>> Jorge Almeida writes:
>>
>
>>>
>>> It is a voodoo (i.e. fonts) problem. Things work for me now, with -fp
>>> in the Xserver command line and /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ before
>>> /usr/share/fonts/misc/. I would prefer to unde
On 12/19/2016 05:50 PM, Dale wrote:
lee wrote:
Daniel Frey writes:
On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote:
"Walter Dnes" writes:
Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one
ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0.
Since 10 years or so, the default is tw
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:34:56 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> You know what I did or did not? Interesting!
You can make any post say whatever you want by taking it out of context.
You made a statement about systemd, I pointed out that it was incorrect.
Others have since made the same point about the
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 06:43:53PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote
> And whether the NSS that Pale Moon uses is fine, maybe some of the devs
> can tell us, I apologize for for having made too hasty and very probably
> wrong conclusion in regard...
See the 2nd post in https://forum.palemoon.org/view
lee wrote:
> Daniel Frey writes:
>
>> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote:
>>> "Walter Dnes" writes:
>>>
Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one
ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0.
>>> Since 10 years or so, the default is two ports.
>> Not in
Am 19.12.2016 um 10:59 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
> If you can't work that out for yourself, what are you doing running
> Gentoo. I'm stating it can be done, I have neither the time nor the
> inclination to document it.
The question is not, if I can work this out myself or not. The question
is: Can yo
Am 19.12.2016 um 10:37 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
> No you don't.
You know what I did or did not? Interesting!
Heiko Baums
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:40 PM, lee wrote:
> Jorge Almeida writes:
>
>>
>> It is a voodoo (i.e. fonts) problem. Things work for me now, with -fp
>> in the Xserver command line and /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ before
>> /usr/share/fonts/misc/. I would prefer to understand what happens
>> rather tha
>> It is even more frustrating that these so-called predictable network
>> names actually can change on a reboot, it's happened to me more than
>> once when multiple network cards are detected in a different order.
Then you might found a bug? With predictable network names the name of
your device
Jorge Almeida writes:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:46 AM, lee wrote:
>
>>>
>> I'm using fvwm. I was having trouble with xterm once when I still used
>> Fedora, and though I'm not sure, results might be different with
>> different WMs (I seem to remember something about that).
>
> I tried fvwm a
Daniel Frey writes:
> On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote:
>> "Walter Dnes" writes:
>>
>>> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one
>>> ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0.
>>
>> Since 10 years or so, the default is two ports.
>
> Not in any of the co
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Daniel Frey wrote:
Jorge
>>
>
> Actually, I just had a thought. I stumbled onto a very weird fonts bug
> some years ago where Firefox would crash on loading certain pages. It
> was something very stupid, all fonts need to have world-readable
> permissions. If a f
On 12/18/2016 09:28 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Daniel Frey wrote:
>> On 12/18/2016 07:25 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote:
>>>
>>> The logs complain about helvetica, and I found similar stuff in the
>>> net (not necessarilly about xterm). This appears to be a font problem,
On 12/18/2016 09:28 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Daniel Frey wrote:
>> On 12/18/2016 07:25 AM, Jorge Almeida wrote:
>>>
>>> The logs complain about helvetica, and I found similar stuff in the
>>> net (not necessarilly about xterm). This appears to be a font problem,
On 12/19/2016 10:15 AM, lee wrote:
> "Walter Dnes" writes:
>
>> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one
>> ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0.
>
> Since 10 years or so, the default is two ports.
Not in any of the computers I've built. Generally onl
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:46 AM, lee wrote:
>>
> I'm using fvwm. I was having trouble with xterm once when I still used
> Fedora, and though I'm not sure, results might be different with
> different WMs (I seem to remember something about that).
I tried fvwm and there was no difference. Not a
Jorge Almeida writes:
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 1:44 PM, lee wrote:
>> Jorge Almeida writes:
>>
>
>>
>> This works for me:
>>
>
> Nope. No change.
>
>>
>> Perhaps it has to do with a font not being available in the size needed
>> for the menu?
>>
>
> Maybe, but I'm out of ideas.
>
>
>>
>>> can'
Alan McKinnon writes:
>> That doesn't keep me from noticing that what is being said is very
>> different from what is being done. If the bunch of people wants to
>> change that, /they/ need to do so.
>>
>
>
> I recommend you brush up on your social skills.
>
> Figuring out what people really me
"Walter Dnes" writes:
> Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one
> ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0.
Since 10 years or so, the default is two ports.
> Now the name varies in each machine depending on the motherboard
> layout; oogabooga11? foobar42
I need to correct what I wrote... Things are *not* as bad as I
misunderstood...
On 161219-18:17+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
...
> ...
>
> The NSS library that Palemoon uses (as I posted on that link above) is,
> IIUC, ancient (paste from about:support):
Nope! But see below...
> NSS 3.19.5.0 B
On Sunday, December 18, 2016 2:59:36 PM EST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long list
> of kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only problem was four blocks
> that portage couldn't sort out on its own, so I evicted the existing
> version
On 161219-12:16+0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote:
> On 161218-15:29-0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
...
> First, I installed Pale Moon, but by no means is the task over.
>
> And not just because I had issues, i.e. couldn't log into Pale Moon forum:
>
> SSL-key logging with Pale Moon (the current title)
> http
On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> The truth is, as designs
> go, sysvinit is a /terrible/ design. It only lasted 30 years because it
> forces all the tricky bits to be someone else's problem
>
I'm not sure I'd go as far as saying "terrible" - it does what it does
reasonably
On 19/12/2016 16:52, Marc Joliet wrote:
...
> I'm not convinced that you actually understand systemd particularly well. It
> seems to me that if you want to develop an informed opinion about it, you
> should:
>
> a) Read the official documentation (don't just rely on what others say; even
>
On Sunday 18 December 2016 00:36:15 Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am 18.12.2016 um 00:23 schrieb Andrej Rode:
> > For reference did you try to write an init script for a piece of
> > software in SysVInit, systemd and OpenRC to be able to compare them?
>
> Yes, at least I had to read a lot of them. And init
On Monday, December 19, 2016 09:45:21 AM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote :
> > On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk>
> >
> > wrote :
> > > > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long
> > >
On 161218-15:29-0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 07:43:47PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote
>
> > [So I don't understand why you] thought dbus was needed to be disabled
> > by other means, than the (as yet still) unofficial repo/overlay?)
> >
> > Or am I missing something?
>
> Yo
On 161218-15:29-0500, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 07:43:47PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote
>
> > [So I don't understand why you] thought dbus was needed to be disabled
> > by other means, than the (as yet still) unofficial repo/overlay?)
> >
> > Or am I missing something?
>
> Yo
I managed to detect the twofold origin of my
xterm-crashing-on-Ctrl+click problem:
.Xresources has a line
XTerm*geometry: 80x22
It should be
XTerm*VT100.geometry: 80x22
It seems this is a common error (source:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xterm#Menus)
The other is the font pat
On 19/12/2016 11:45, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> J. Roeleveld wrote :
>
>> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
>>> Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk>
>> wrote :
This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long
list of kde-app packages, inc
161218 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> 161218 Philip Webb wrote:
>> I want to see which pkgs might have updates available in 'testing',
>> so I enter, where 'emergeu' = 'ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge'
>> USE="openssl qt5 text ruby_targets_ruby23 widgets gui network
>> printsupport" emergeu -DNup world
>
On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 15:35:38 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am 17.12.2016 um 14:17 schrieb Neil Bothwick:
>
> > I'm running the Debian 7 version of Raspbian on a number of Pis, all
> > without systemd. Yes, I am happy using systemd, but I can't be arsed
> > changing them when they continue to work p
J. Roeleveld wrote :
> On Sunday, December 18, 2016 03:11:58 PM Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk>
> wrote :
> > > This morning I ran my usual daily update and was presented with a long
> > > list of kde-app packages, including KMail-2. The only problem was four
> > >
On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 00:36:15 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:
> > For reference did you try to write an init script for a piece of
> > software in SysVInit, systemd and OpenRC to be able to compare them?
>
> Yes, at least I had to read a lot of them. And init scripts are really a
> lot easier to write
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