On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 16/09/2015 21:42, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Alan McKinnon
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> It has something to do with systemd's log thingy.
>>>
>>> The error o
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
> It has something to do with systemd's log thingy.
>
> The error only appears in one place in the syslog-ng source,
> in modules/systemd-journal/journal-reader.c:
>
> static inline gboolean
> __seek_to_saved_state(JournalReader *self)
> {
>
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:20 AM, james wrote:
> I think most folks when purchasing a workstation include a graphics
> card on the list of items to include. So my suggestions where geared
> towards informing folks about some of the new features of gcc that
> may intice them to consider the graphics
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Mick wrote:
> On the same hardware I noticed that a CMYK photograph converted to sRGB looked
> mostly the same (indistinguishable) on Linux, but the sRGB colours were
> brighter on MSWindows.
>
If everything is working correctly then the CMYK original and sRGB
copy
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 05/09/15 08:52, Dale wrote:
>>
>> tmpfs /var/tmp/portage tmpfs noatime 0
>> 0
>
>
> Off-topic: forget "noatime". Use "lazytime" instead:
> https://lwn.net/Articles/621046
I don't really see the point
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 2:37 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 23:13:52 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote:
>
>> The directory specified in your PORTAGE_TMPDIR variable,
>> '/var/tmp/notmpfs', does not exist. Please create this directory or
>> correct your PORTAGE_TMPDIR setting.
>
>
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 09/04/2015 06:32 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>>> On 09/04/2015 01:09 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>>>> Similar to the recent thread on cloning...
>>>
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 09/04/2015 01:09 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> Similar to the recent thread on cloning...
>>
>> I don't know and have never even used Git, but I need to get a complete
>> and total backup of an entire Git repository to a single file that can
>
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote:
> For some reason, whenever I check the status of my startup scripts, dhcpd
> registers as "crashed". However, dhcpd is up and running and working fine.
> Normally I don't worry about it, but on those occasions where dhcpd does
> stop working,
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 7:57 AM, walt wrote:
> Thank you. I've been running systemd for months and this is the first
> time I've heard about systemd profiles. I'm not using either gnome or
> kde, so should I use default/linux/amd64/13.0/systemd, which doesn't
> seem to care if I'm running a deskt
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:13 AM, wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> Sounds like this is covered by:
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=558168
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=02
>>
>> It seems to me like this is a portage issue with th
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Got it, finally :-)
>
> fail2ban wants sys-apps/systemd[python(-)], and systemd-219_p112 is the
> highest version with an explicit python USE flag. All later versions do
> not have the flag at all.
>
> Your choices are either to have fail2ban
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Matthew Marchese
wrote:
>
> This is an excellent explanation of the flag. Will you give me permission to
> use it or re-word it for a wiki page concerning bindist?
>
Certainly, do whatever you wish with it.
It might even make sense to put a mention in the handbo
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> No-one has yet mentioned taking backups. I'm still using a brute-force
> approach, in which I shut down each of my two machines once a week to make a
> backup to external disk.
I have a multi-tier strategy. Anything I'm going to complain
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Technically, we should do a power down test every 6 months or so, but
> that turns out not to be a yes/no test in real life; it's a yes/destroy
> test and no-one wants to make a decision either way. So we all sit in
> limbo and wait for some
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>
> On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 12:04:43AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
>> How long between power off/on's ?
>
> I switch my PC on in the morning when I want to start using
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 3:54 AM, Kent Fredric wrote:
> We've had to accept that upstream were being unreasonable, and fork
> the problem and manage it ourselves.
>
> And now we have eudev.
>
> This is a very good example of "Gentoo standing in between upstream
> and our users to protect our users
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 5:41 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 30/08/2015 06:04, Philip Webb wrote:
>> How long do desktop users typically leave their systems between reboots ?
>> How long between power off/on's ?
>>
>
> Mine depends. I typically do a deliberate reboot only when wanting a new
> kernel
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Fernando Rodriguez
wrote:
> It's probably easier to do this:
>
> # cd /usr/portage
> # rm -r *
> # git clone .
The only issue with this is that all the files end up being owned by
root. I'd just create /usr/portage, chown portage:portage
/usr/portage, and then
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Michel Catudal wrote:
> Le 2015-08-27 23:36, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit :
>>
>> On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:25:01 PM Michel Catudal wrote:
>>>
>>> This is nonsense. I have never had a case where it would not boot when I
>>
>> have grub correctly installed on the
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel
wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 06:45:47PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>
>> I don't want to have to understand the design. I just want to be a
>> user. I've got enough things competing for limited mental capacity as
>> it is.
>
> What? I don't
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:40 PM, wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Philip Webb wrote:
>> > 150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
>> >
>> >> git whatchanged /usr/portage/sys-libs/ncurses > /tmp/log.txt
>> >
>>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Mick wrote:
> On Friday 28 Aug 2015 18:26:12 Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Philip Webb wrote:
>> > 150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
>> >> git whatchanged /usr/portage/sys-libs/ncurses > /tmp/log.txt
>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:22 PM, James wrote:
>
> Surely I can mask off these updates and stay with ::
> sys-libs/ncurses- 5.9-r4
>
> For a while, till things settle a bit? Weird. I mask off a version
> and a newer, later version appears. wtf?
In your long post you didn't actually say what vers
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>
> I disagree completely. A little time spent on git is time wasted. Only
> a lot of time spent on git is useful.
I disagree with this.
> git is to VCSs as assembler is to programming languages. To use either
> effectively, you've got t
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, James wrote:
> I agree with this. But since the Changlog data was a fundamental part
> of Gentoo, for a very long time, and the devs wisely chose to upgrade
> to git, I would think that this functionality would be provided
> via git, at least by some hacks or deta
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Philip Webb wrote:
> 150828 Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> git whatchanged /usr/portage/sys-libs/ncurses > /tmp/log.txt
>
> Tested as user :
>
> 690: ~> git whatchanged /usr/portage/sys-libs/ncurses > tmp/log.txt
> fatal: Not a
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 10:24 AM, James wrote:
>
> It there an easy, automated way to have this inforation on my system(s)
> without extra keystrokes?
Either wait for somebody to provide the old-style changelogs (some
consider this critical, some consider this pointless - I'll admit I
tend to fal
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Marc Joliet wrote:
>
> You can try the gitweb interface, for example like this:
> https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/log/?qt=grep&q=ncurses.
>
A better view might be:
https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/log/sys-libs/ncurses
or if you prefer:
https://
o
developer, wrote Git features for the migration
X-Thanks: Brian Harring - wrote much python to
improve cvs2svn
X-Thanks: Rich Freeman - validation scripts
X-Thanks: Patrick Lauer - Gentoo dev, running new 2014
work in migration
X-Thanks: Michał Górny - scripts, QA, nagg
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Thursday 27 August 2015 08:49:13 Mike Gilbert wrote:
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal
I've had serious problems in the past getting [grub2] to install on a
>>
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel
wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:34:05PM +0300, gevisz wrote:
>> Yes, the full system update now proceeded without blocks, however
>> with "severe warnings" while compiling firefox. They are provided below.
>> But the issue with ncurces blocks s
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Michel Catudal wrote:
> Le 2015-08-27 21:50, Rich Freeman a écrit :
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Michel Catudal
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You missed the point, I do not want some installation treating me like a
>&g
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Michel Catudal wrote:
>
> You missed the point, I do not want some installation treating me like a
> child by denying an install to protect me against myself. If I mess up my
> system it is nobody's business but mine.
>
Well, then quit acting like a child and pa
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:39 AM, hydra wrote:
>
> The init script must be changed to use openrc-run, your action will be to
> update dbus as usual. Or better, open a bug report so that the init script
> will be updated.
>
A bit more background. These messages are really targeted more at
package
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
> So, I've made the mess considerably worse... maybe unsolvable since I
> have no gcc now and so no way to grind out the builds plus other
> truly boneheaded uninstalls that appear to have rendered my system
> unusable just like the li
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:36 AM, James wrote:
> Are you going to roll out some "notes" on putting
> raid-1::btrfs onto HD? Or just the VM install?
>
The notes should work just fine for installing that on an HD. Is
there something you found missing in them?
The only thing they aren't targeted a
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:46 AM, James wrote:
>
> Hello Harry. Gentoo has the handbook for it's main install. A bit of a drag
> but good for for a refresher or leaning.
>
> Rich put up an excellent set of VM gentoo install instructins [1]:
My main goals with those notes (I wouldn't call them inst
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Alec Ten Harmsel
wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 09:35:36AM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Alan Mackenzie writes:
>>
>> > I'd recommend you then just to reinstall. Remembering my fights with
>> > stupid error messages from emerge, and so on, I wish I'd just
>> >
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Can anyone advise me which iso to use? And which profile to set for
> general use in a vbox, hopefully to allow a `no sweat' emerge to a
> full OS.
As others have pointed out you probably just need to update your gcc
and all will be well, o
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:29 PM, James wrote:
> Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes:
>> > for (BS) Big Science, imho. BS needs all resources solving and
>> > supporting a single problem, with as low of latency as possible.
>
>> What kind of latency are you expect
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 3:28 PM, James wrote:
> You are right and you are wrong:: Openstack nor CoreOS are the best approach
> for (BS) Big Science, imho. BS needs all resources solving and supporting a
> single problem, with as low of latency as possible.
What kind of latency are you expecting t
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:39 AM, James wrote:
> Dale gmail.com> writes:
>
> Besides, if I want to deploy 50 systems for a cluster, one at a time in
> parallel what do you recommend? via handbook? The modern diversity of
> hardware options has rendered the gentoo handbook, dysfunctional, at best,
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>
> "Uploading is copying. Downloading is also copying. Unauthorized copying
> is an unauthorized use that is governed by the copyright laws.
> Therefore, unauthorized uploading and unauthorized downloading are
> unauthorized uses governed
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:40 AM, Marc Joliet wrote:
> Am Wed, 19 Aug 2015 21:13:01 -0400
> schrieb Rich Freeman :
>
>> So, who cares what they think? They don't get to write the law. When
>> Linus says stuff that is smart, I'll admire him for it. When he says
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 3:24 AM, Fernando Rodriguez
wrote:
>
> The point I was trying to make is that just like the email would be useless
> unless I have a Quran so will a program be useless without the library it
> depends on. I did say it wasn't a very good analogy.
Arguably the library is als
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Fernando Rodriguez
wrote:
>
> Try a different exercise. Go buy a Quran. Now use it as a cryptographic key to
> encrypt an email. Is the email now a derived work? That's no a perfect analogy
> but it's more like what happens when you dynamic link a library.
But th
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Fernando Rodriguez
wrote:
> The GPL symbols are not necessary for interoperability. For that you need
> little more that access to the hardware and an interface to userspace. Most of
> those GPL symbols are convenience routines to enable reuse of code among
> diff
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/19/2015 09:24 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> When you download software you receive a copy. You start out with
>> zero works. Somebody sends you a copy of that work. You write it to
>> disk. You end
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Jeremi Piotrowski
wrote:
>
> This discussion has been going on ever since the kernel was first
> conceived, and some matters are still not entirely clear.
Honestly, I don't think they'll be any consensus on this argument
until a court makes some kind of ruling. T
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/19/2015 09:05 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>>>
>>> Anything you can do without the kernel source code is legal, sure. But
>>> we're ta
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/19/2015 08:37 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>> What's the purpose of these quotes?
>> Neither of them says it doesn't allow steps 1-3. Instead of doing selective
>> reading you should read the whole thing. If that's too much just
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/19/2015 07:40 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. Downloading the kernel source (making a copy of) it.
>>> 2. Patching it.
>>> 3. Linking it with closed source code.
>>> 4. Distributing the result.
>>>
>>> (If that's not what yo
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Fernando Rodriguez
wrote:
>
> The law is not clear about that. But how can it not be a derived work if it
> doesn't work without it?
>
A is only a derived work of B if the law says it is.
My pot isn't a derived work of my stove. My browser isn't a derived
work o
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Fernando Rodriguez
wrote:
>
> I'm not a lawyer but as I understand it, it's not on the "letter of the law"
> because it's a technical issue and the law hasn't caught up.
>
> My view, and what I think is most in the spirit of the law, is that it is a
> derived work
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
>
> Anything you can do without the kernel source code is legal, sure. But
> we're talking about...
>
> 1. Downloading the kernel source (making a copy of) it.
You're receiving a copy of it. You don't need a license to download
something.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Jeremi Piotrowski
wrote:
>
> They could, but I was under the impression that by using licensed software
> you agree to follow it's terms. And the binding nature of licenses is
> codified in copyright law.
You don't need a license to use software. You need a licen
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:09 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/19/2015 05:28 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Fernando Rodriguez
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The illegal part is not loading it but distributing the blob that depends on
>>
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Fernando Rodriguez
wrote:
>
> The illegal part is not loading it but distributing the blob that depends on
> the GPL exports.
What makes it illegal? Quote the text of the relevant statute or
court case. That is the issue here. People argue that linking
creates
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:31 AM, Jeremi Piotrowski
wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015, Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> It sounds like you not only expect them to comply with the license,
>> but also with the kernel devs personal interpretation of copyright
>> law.
>
> What is a
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/18/2015 09:54 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>
>> I think the kernel devs would be hard-pressed to mount some kind of
>> GPL infringement lawsuit. In general US courts have tended to block
>> attempts to use
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Jeremi Piotrowski
wrote:
> Companies have frequently been ...
> applying their own interpretation of what constitutes derived work.
>...
> I have nothing against proprietary/closed source kernel modules as long as
> they comply with the terms of the licenses of ope
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 08/18/2015 08:39 PM, Dale wrote:
>>
>> Here's a clue. Why doesn't the kernel devs let users decide what
>> drivers they are comfy with using? If they don't like the drivers, then
>> make it so that users have to install their own jus
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Dale wrote:
>
> If you have any info on how to override this, I'd be glad to see it.
> Just a link or something would help.
>
I haven't tested it, but I'd think the simplest solution would be
something like this (which just turns EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL into
EXPORT_SYMB
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Jeremi Piotrowski
wrote:
> If anything I would actually go for a simplification of the install
> procedure, to something extremely low maintenence (for the handbook
> authors ofc). An ext4 single disk install with grub2 (meh) that every one
> can handle.
>
> Sure g
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Dale wrote:
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>> The result is that the next morning I have an email containing a list
>> of the stuff to be merged, and a set of binary packages for most of it
>> (deps of modified packages cannot be pre-built in this wa
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 7:45 AM, wrote:
> Last chance: Installing a fully functional chrooted Linux, setup
> some handcrafted iptables/ipset/sidmat stuff (which I still have
> to do) and...get a "Yes, network is shared on kernel level" as answer
> from this thread. :)
> And I got this answer...YE
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:53 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 06:53:30 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
>> on my Android tablet I have installed a Gentoo rootfs.
>> I can start this by chgrooting it after Android has booted.
>> Via xvnc I can connect from a running Android to th
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 4:01 AM, gevisz wrote:
> Already for the third day, emerge-webrsyc says me that
> my "current local timestamp is possibly identical to the
> * timestamp of the latest snapshot," so I began to worry
> if this way of syncing my portage tree still works and will
> work in the
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Dale wrote:
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> On Monday 10 August 2015 09:13:01 Dale wrote:
>>
>>> I might add, sync is taking a LONG time again. Of course, my DSL is a
>>> bit slower than some folks. At least the bumpy road got smoothed out
>>> tho. It seems to be wo
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Monday 10 August 2015 09:13:01 Dale wrote:
>
>> I might add, sync is taking a LONG time again. Of course, my DSL is a
>> bit slower than some folks. At least the bumpy road got smoothed out
>> tho. It seems to be working again. Mayb
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Dale wrote:
>
> I'm sure I'm not alone on monitoring -dev to see upcoming changes. I
> noticed they switched to git or something and it seems to have caused a
> bit of trouble.
There are a few issues they're working through, but nothing really
serious. There were
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am 08.08.2015 um 21:30 schrieb Rich Freeman:
>> This was the subject of extensive discussion and a council decision.
>>
>> The rationale for not configuring the installing of small files via a
>> USE flag is that it
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
> I think this should actually be handled by USE="-systemd", and not by
> INSTALL_MASK.
This was the subject of extensive discussion and a council decision.
The rationale for not configuring the installing of small files via a
USE flag is that i
On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:05 PM, walt wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 19:41:27 -0400
> Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> The next
>> big change is likely to be virtualizing openrc so that it can be
>> uninstalled, and possibly not including it in the stage3, but that
>>
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
>
> I don't need to be worried, that this will happen with Gentoo either
> anytime soon?
What? That we'll take a vote that some anti-systemd folks won't like?
It has already happened - package maintainers aren't permitted to
revert additions of
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
> If packages that don't need systemd as a hard dependency or are
> installed with USE=-systemd write anything which is important for them
> or could break them even without systemd into one of those systemd
> directories which I have in my INSTAL
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2015 08:18:40 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> So, if you have a USB stick that won't boot, consider that the problem
>> may actually lie in your BIOS...
>
> Now you know why I boot directly from th
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> Yes, I remember about your rescue ISO. I may do the same once I work out how
> to incorporate my own customisations into it. Maybe that should be the first
> thing to do. I have a USB stick like that, but it refuses to boot any more.
>
I'v
On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:45 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Aug 2015 04:40:12 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
>
>> >> Why is root=/dev/ram0 real_root= in the sample/prototype?
>>
>> > That's for using an initrd, specifically the one produced by
>> > genkernel. With no initrd you simply give the ac
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
>
> And, no, I won't install any package which is merged into systemd. As
> you mentioned udev, what do you need udev for if you don't use systemd?
> Just install eudev. Works perfectly without any systemd dependency.
>
Like I said - if you want
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:17 PM, James` wrote:
> Jc García gmail.com> writes:
>
>> > I'm not saying push one over the other, but explain and delineate
>> > that choice
>> > *early* in the handbook. WE owe the larger linux community that wisdom::
>> > that gentoo has made peace with systemd and ope
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Heiko Baums wrote:
> Am 06.08.2015 um 18:59 schrieb Jc García:
>> OpenRC is there on the stage3, systemd isn't, if you don't think about
>> systemd you get an OpenRC installation, I think it would confuse more
>> people to talk about choosing init system(especially
I'll skip the bits that were already dealt with.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 5:19 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
> First, btrfs balance. I had no idea that was needed, so of course I didn't
> include it in my attempts. Could that be why, on booting, the kernel couldn't
> mount the file system?
It isn't
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> I booted x86_64 openSUSE 13.1 HD installation to try to begin Gentoo
> installation, beginning from "Unpacking the stage tarball" on
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Installation/Stage :
>
> # tar xvjpf /pub/stage3-sh4-2012030
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 August 2015 10:43:28 Rich Freeman wrote:
>
>> Just to humor you I'll include an OpenRC version of my raid1 btrfs
>> install walkthrough. :) It has been a while since I've done one of
>> t
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 1:24 PM, James wrote:
>
> I have bindist set in make.conf. I'm not sure why, as it has most likely
> been there a while. I have plent of compiler power...
>
It is part of the stage3 default make.conf, so it isn't surprising
that you have it. Most users will probably wa
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Grant Edwards
wrote:
> On 2015-08-05, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:28:25 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
>>
>>> The Gentoo instructions look competent enough to do well for most of the
>>> people it's designed for, if only they aren't trying to do as c
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 7:57 AM, James wrote:
>
> Rich0 said he'd modify the handbook into an experimental prose that
> leads to a raid-1 btrfs baseline system, if enough folks liked the ideas.
Just to clarify - I intend to do it, full stop. I don't want to
generate some kind of "please do it" ca
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 5:47 PM, James wrote:
> So, a smart (and really cool dude like yourself) surely can take the
> handbook, and edit out an experimental version that only address btrfs-raid
> one?
Sure, if there is interest I can put together something once I'm back home.
--
Rich
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:50 AM, James wrote:
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> As many know, I have made many failed attempts to get btrfs in raid 1 working
> on gentoo, and have to this date, failed.
>
Interesting. I've never had any problems with it. I boot using
grub2+dracut with root on a single-device btrfs, and /usr
On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 5:35 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> menuentry 'Gentoo Linux 4.0.5, no network' {
> linux /boot/kernel-x86_64-4.0.5-gentoo root=/dev/sda3 softlevel=nonet
> net.ifnames=0 irqpoll
> }
As Neil already pointed out, if you're not using an initramfs you need
to put all your
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 July 2015 08:31:58 Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>
>> > I've just installed a new laptop with it, using btrfs
>> > for everything but /boot.
&
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 12:39:47 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>
>> In particular, is there a suitable installation medium that can create
>> BTRFS before installing into it?
>
> System Rescue Cd, I've just installed a new laptop with it, using bt
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 8:56 AM, James wrote:
> Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes:
>
>> Just be practical. From my experience showing up at a LUG and telling 20
>> people how something worked well for you gets you a lot further than
>> handing out free T-shirts and hats
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:44 AM, Jc García wrote:
> 2015-07-23 21:08 GMT-06:00 J.Rutkowski :
>> Fedora's Ambassador[2] project and the
>> concerted effort placed in organizing presence at events, publicly
>> promoting projects, organzing contributor and developer projects (à la
>> hackathons), et
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale wrote:
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> This wouldn't help with some of the things you lost but it will with
> your passwords at least. For passwords, this will help and you can use
> it somewhere else as well since it is portable, sort of.
>
> https://lastpass.com/
>
++
I was chatting
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 18/07/2015 08:43 μμ, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
>>
>> Yes and no. If user enabled network interface and has no network
>> daemons running, kernel still listens to that interface (ARP, icmp
>> and so on) and may be hacked using vulnerabil
On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:21 PM, R0b0t1 wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >I think that assumes that the two get averaged together in some way
> >and cannot be separated. If you could determine the orientation of
> >individual magnetic dom
On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 4:05 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann
wrote:
> Am 12.07.2015 um 23:30 schrieb Rich Freeman:
>> Impossible is a pretty bold claim. You need proof, not evidence that
>> a particular recovery technique didn't work. I can demonstrate very
>> clearly that I&
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