Re: Aw: Re: [gentoo-user] upgrading (profiles, too)

2019-05-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:02 PM Dale wrote: > > Given that is going to involve quite a bit of changes, and it appears > the OP has a outdated system, going in steps may be a good idea. At > least that way if something breaks, it may be easier to fix since the > steps are smaller. > ++ I would

Re: [gentoo-user] updating portage, continued

2019-05-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 6:27 PM wrote: > > Next comes this: > > "The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed: > (see "package.accept_keywords" in the portage(5) man page for more details) > # required by sys-devel/crossdev-20171230::gentoo > # required by @selected > # required by

Re: [gentoo-user] Updating portage, continued

2019-05-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 6:37 PM wrote: > > The next section of the response to my attempt to update portage is a long > list of packages, each terminated with a "(masked by: something or other)". > > What does that tell me. If it's masked, it shouldn't be available, right? > But, I've got it:

Re: [gentoo-user] Fw: updating /etc/package.accept_keywords

2019-05-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 7:58 AM Mick wrote: > > There's also cfg-update and there may be more tools to manage changes in > config files following an update. > > The merge function is particularly useful, because you can see where your > edits are/not affected by any changes to the new config

Re: [gentoo-user] slot conflict when updating portage

2019-05-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 6:55 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 30 May 2019 00:52:31 +0200, n952...@web.de wrote: > > > !!! Your current profile is deprecated and not supported anymore. > > !!! Use eselect profile to update your profile. > > !!! Please upgrade to the following profile if

Re: [gentoo-user] block for zfs-0.8.0 how to fix safely

2019-05-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 4:35 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Tue, 28 May 2019 04:04:23 -0400, John Covici wrote: > > > In my latest update, there is a hard block sys-kernel/spl-0.7.13 is > > blocking 0.8.0. Can I unmerge the old one and still have access to my > > pools while the new one is

Re: [gentoo-user] encrypting emails on more than one email account with same keys

2019-05-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:49 PM Mick wrote: > > On Thursday, 23 May 2019 16:40:23 BST Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > I'm trying to get some legal work done. I'm trying to do this over > > email with a lawyer. For obvious reasons, I want to do this encrypted > > but suspect they are not set up

Re: [gentoo-user] Can I use containers?

2019-05-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 12:44 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 5/18/19 9:26 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > Hi, > > > Can anyone answer this? > > I would think that containers could be made to do this. But I'm not a > fan of the containerization systems that I've seen. They seem to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Intel CPU flaws discovered

2019-05-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 6:28 AM Mick wrote: > > Count yourself lucky. You could have discovered your disk wouldn't spin up > again, your PSU packed up, or even the MoBo chipset decided to retire from > active service. Eventually, any of these hardware problems would manifest > themselves, but a

Re: [gentoo-user] requirement: ssh v1

2019-05-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 8:09 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > Otherwise, your best bet is to install a modern Gentoo system, and then > downgrade OpenSSH. > ++ assuming it builds, which it probably would. I'd just stick the old ebuild in an overlay and mask out the gentoo repo for that package (I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New Intel CPU flaws discovered

2019-05-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:01 AM Adam Carter wrote: > >> Am I correct to think that "Mitigation" is good enough or does that mean it >> could be affected in some other way or is risky? > > I accept Mitigation as good enough. I'm not sure what alternative there would be... :) Everything

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 6:00 AM Mick wrote: > > Printers are plug 'n play these days. There is no manual configuration > needed, unless your PCs and/or router configurations do not use zeroconf/mDNS. > I don't think that routers need to do anything to support mDNS - I think it is purely a P2P

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] local mirrors

2019-04-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 1:42 AM wrote: > > What I'm hoping for, though, is a configuration flag that causes any of: > - inhibits a theoretical traversal of repos.conf databases (e.g. also > /usr/share/porrage/...) > - inhibits trying to upgrade beyond what's already installed in the mirror >

Re: [gentoo-user] local mirrors

2019-04-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 5:44 PM wrote: > > So, I set up the rsync deamon on my "mirror server" host and the > /etc/portage/repos.conf/gentoo.conf file on the client machine, run the > recommended test and everything is just as described. I sync my client, and > am very happy. > > By

Re: [gentoo-user] Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 3:43 PM Manuel McLure wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 11:40 AM Dale wrote: >> >> On that note, I thought about going to some lawyers offices and Doctors >> and asking them to let me know when they upgrade their printers. > > > A lot of those bigger printers/print

Re: [gentoo-user] Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 11:17 AM Daniel Frey wrote: > > Most companies with IT no longer bother with laser printers, they'll use > large print centres (like copiers) which have a low cost-per-page (black > and white can be under 1c/page.) We have retired most of our laser printers. Unless I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Picking out a printer. Questions.

2019-04-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 6:42 AM Mick wrote: > > A laser printer is *much* more economical to run than inkjets. The toner > cartridges never dry out - with inkjet you often replace the ink before it has > run out, because it has dried out. Initially you pay more for a laser, but > over the years

Re: [gentoo-user] Why the insistence on encryption and multiple devices?

2019-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:31 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I'm installing a new xfce4 system on a 4-core 32-bit Celeron box, and portage > is insisting that I install encryption software, whether I want it or not. I > don't. > > The requirement seems to come from this line in the libblockdev

Re: [gentoo-user] NVM on Gentoo Linux?

2019-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 10:14 AM Mick wrote: > > On Sunday, 31 March 2019 12:32:55 BST Andreas Fink wrote: > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2019 11:53:19 +0100 > > > > Wols Lists wrote: > > > If I'm booting off a live-CD or similar, then I'm not worried about the > > > system being available for use, and

Re: [gentoo-user] New network cards default to "Y" with "make oldconfig"

2019-03-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 3:34 PM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 1:02 PM Dale wrote: > >> Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> Suppose you have an Acme model 1234 network card. You've previously > >>> answered Yes to enabling

Re: [gentoo-user] New network cards default to "Y" with "make oldconfig"

2019-03-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 1:02 PM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > Suppose you have an Acme model 1234 network card. You've previously > > answered Yes to enabling its driver, and No to enabling the Acme model > > 2345 card. > > > > Now a new op

Re: [gentoo-user] New network cards default to "Y" with "make oldconfig"

2019-03-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 3:46 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Sunday, 24 March 2019 01:03:23 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > > When setting up a new kernel with "make oldconfig", almost all new > > device drivers default to "N". The glaring exception is network cards. > > They all seem to default to

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel modules and security

2019-03-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 10:46 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Years ago, in the days of Yggdrasil I think, the received wisdom was that > enabling kernel module loading was a bad idea because an attacker might be > able to load malicious software directly into the kernel. No modules --> one > more

Re: [gentoo-user] Amdgpu-pro, anyone?

2019-03-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:22 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Can anyone help me with installing the proprietary amdgpu-pro driver, please? > > I've downloaded the package from the AMD site; it contains 50-odd .deb files > and an installation script. I can't use the script directly, of course, >

Re: [gentoo-user] start ntpdate after network....

2019-03-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 6:40 PM Tamer Higazi wrote: > > Mar 11 00:33:37 localhost ntpdate[4553]: Exiting, name server cannot be > used: Temporary failure in name resolution (-3)11 Mar 00:33:37 > ntpdate[4553]: name server cannot be used: Temporary failure in name > resolution (-3) Ok, you didn't

Re: [gentoo-user] start ntpdate after network....

2019-03-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 5:16 PM Tamer Higazi wrote: > > I have my gentoo system running with systemd. > > I figured out that ntpdate is getting started before network is up. > I am not yet very familiar with systemd. > > Can somebody of you tell me how to fix that, that "ntpdate" is started > the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge --sync source

2019-03-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 9:29 AM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2019-03-07, Mick wrote: > > > I can think of 3 things, but more learned M/L contributors may add to these: > > > > 1. The SATA connection has come loose. With time and movement it can come > > (slightly) adrift. Pushing it back in

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge --sync source

2019-03-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 11:31 AM Laurence Perkins wrote: > > If it's just that the SSD is failing, then get a new one before > something important gets damaged and you have to redo the whole thing. IMO any kind of storage device should be treated as if it could fail at any time without warning.

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge --sync source

2019-02-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:41 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Thursday, 28 February 2019 08:43:13 GMT Davyd McColl wrote: > > > Well, that's pretty-much how git works -- that local repo was still pointing > > to the old remote. Updating your repos.conf won't change that as the old > > remote is

Re: [gentoo-user] rkhunter reports xorddos component

2019-02-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 8:47 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Wednesday, 27 February 2019 12:27:59 GMT Mick wrote: > > > > Could it be these versions are now launching /run/udev.pid? Is a file /run/ > > udev.pid present in your system? > > Yes, I have such a text file, containing just a PID. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] dracut and UUID's

2019-02-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 9:24 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > Hi Rich, no grub! A rpi uses a custom loader (apparently the GPU starts > the boot process). I'll investigate if it can passthrough a UUID. > Looks like next stop is the pi forums, but most use their kernel, not a > custom one. > Doh!

Re: [gentoo-user] dracut and UUID's

2019-02-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 16, 2019 at 8:48 PM Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > I have cloned a gentoo image for a raspberry pi to another sdcard. > It fails to boot because the storage uuid's have changed and dracut has > the previous uuid's stored internally. Is there a way around this > without changing the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 4:34 PM Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:18 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > If you instead let the user code their own algorithm, then while this > > increases complexity, it also makes it easy for users to shoot &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 12:12 PM Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 12:32 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > I just stumbled on lesspass which seems to be such a tool for > > algorithmic password generation (lesspass.com). > > Great tool. Good to know there ar

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 9:26 AM Kai Peter wrote: > > On 2019-02-05 22:17, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 04:28:49 +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > > >> My own solution is actually very simple. I have a "secret algorithm" > >> that incorporates several secrets with a predictable way

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 7:10 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 02/04/2019 02:58 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > So, I think we're miscommunicating a bit here... > > It happens. > Yeah, I think you're over-reading into my posts. I'm mostly reacting to your ideas and not tryi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:34 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: > >> Neil Bothwick wrote: > >>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > >>> > >>>>> One r

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 15:59:02 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > >>> One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > >>> computer, use LastPass to say make use

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
So, I think we're miscommunicating a bit here... On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 4:10 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 02/04/2019 11:55 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > IMO I would separate your container logic from your service manager logic. > > I'm not exactly sure what you mean by &q

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:49 PM Dale wrote: > > One reason I use LastPass, it is mobile. I can go to someone else's > computer, use LastPass to say make use of Paypal, Newegg, Ebay etc, > logoff and it is like I was never there. As much as I like Lastpass I would never do that. It isn't magic -

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:09 PM Dale wrote: > > I'm not sure if one can convert that to NSA time or not. o_O The > password contains upper/lower case letters, couple symbols from up top > of the number keys and several numbers. None of which anyone would be > able to guess in any way. They

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:44 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > I'm starting to wonder if I'm going to be better off writing new scripts > that will match existing init scripts and their methodology to > (re)start/stop namespaces / containers / jails. Perhaps firejail will > give me what I want or

Re: [gentoo-user] Coming up with a password that is very strong.

2019-02-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 8:21 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 04 Feb 2019 11:17:13 +, Mick wrote: > > > > https://xkcd.com/936/ > > > > Not strictly true ... the crackers would probably use rainbow tables > > attacks first. Also, it isn't fair to compare an 11 character passwd > > against

Re: [gentoo-user] VRFs / Jails / Containers

2019-02-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 11:52 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 2/2/19 9:39 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > systemd-nspawn is also an option, but I don't think that'll work with > > OpenRC. > > Ya I moved (back to) Gentoo to get away from systemd. I'm not > going to voluntarily opt to use it, or

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-1 on secondary disks how?

2019-01-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 7:36 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > That assumes that there is a boot loader. There wasn't one with the old > Slackware boot & root disks. > Linux no longer supports direct booting from the MBR. arch/x86/boot/header.S bugger_off_msg: .ascii "Use a boot loader.\r\n"

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-1 on secondary disks how?

2019-01-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 3:37 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 01/29/2019 01:26 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Uh, an initramfs typically does not exec a second kernel. I guess it > > could, in which case that kernel would need its own initramfs to get > > around to moun

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-1 on secondary disks how?

2019-01-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 3:15 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 01/29/2019 01:08 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > You seem to be focusing on the second kernel that the initramfs execs. > Uh, an initramfs typically does not exec a second kernel. I guess it could, in which case that kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-1 on secondary disks how?

2019-01-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:59 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 01/29/2019 12:47 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > It couldn't. Hence the reason I said, "obviously it needs whatever > > drivers it needs, but I don't see why it would care if they are built > > -in-kernel vs in

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-1 on secondary disks how?

2019-01-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:52 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 01/29/2019 12:33 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > However, as soon as you throw so much as a second hard drive in a system > > that becomes unreliable. > > Mounting the root based on UUID (or labels) is *WONDERF

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-1 on secondary disks how?

2019-01-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:41 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 01/29/2019 12:01 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > That is news to me. Obviously it needs whatever drivers it needs, but > > I don't see why it would care if they are built in-kernel vs in-module. > > Ho

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-1 on secondary disks how?

2019-01-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:22 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 01/29/2019 12:04 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I don't see the value in using a different configuration on a box simply > > because it happens to work on that particular box. Dracut is a more > > generic solutio

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-1 on secondary disks how?

2019-01-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 1:54 PM Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 01/29/2019 10:58 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Can't say I've tried it recently, but I'd be shocked if it changed much. > > The linux kernel guys generally consider this somewhat deprecated > > behavior, a

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-1 on secondary disks how?

2019-01-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 1:39 PM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 12:58:38 -0500, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Can't say I've tried it recently, but I'd be shocked if it changed > > much. The linux kernel guys generally consider this somewhat > > depreca

Re: [gentoo-user] RAID-1 on secondary disks how?

2019-01-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:48 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 09:32:19 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > > On 01/29/2019 09:08 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I'd rather not have to create an initramfs if I can avoid it. Would it > > > be sensible to start the raid volume by

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 7:55 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 19:18:17 -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > > > Since 2004, I have been using "emerge --sync" to update my portage tree. > > I understand that it accesses a local list of mirrors and then runs > > rsync against one of those. On

Re: [gentoo-user] Pick your hypothesis:

2019-01-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:39 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > > Hypothesis 1: > > Rsync failed to correctly perform it's primary function. > > > Hypothesis 2: > > Some F-tard at Gentoo world headquarters left the portage tree in an > inconsistient state, shrugged, and walked away. > Speaking on behalf of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: minimal grub:2 install? [grub:0 being removed]

2019-01-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 6:15 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > Do all the Gentoo package maintainers promise they'll never run > grub-mkconfig as part of a any package (even grub:2) install, remove, > or update? > I doubt you'd get it in writing but I'd be shocked if they ever did. Gentoo doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] trying to find old kernel ebuild

2019-01-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 9:46 AM Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > Hi Rich, unfortunately 4.18.20 is the last one that supports the ipts > patch set (surface pro4 touch screen) ... its flaky, bu the earlier ones > are even worse so going to a LT kernel isnt really useful. I hope they > can get a 4.19 or

Re: [gentoo-user] trying to find old kernel ebuild

2019-01-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:47 AM Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > Hi, > > I am trying to find the ebuild and files for > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-4.18.20 but as its no longer in the tree I > checked the attic but it looks like it is only cvs and no longer in use > for git. > > I couldnt find gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linux: "make menuconf" creates a hardly useable interface

2019-01-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 10:15 AM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 12/01/2019 16:09, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > when calling "make menuconf" on a linux kernel source after > > a short period of time a ncurses-like interface pop up. But > > since some interations of the linux kernel this interface >

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage snapshot signing key expired again

2019-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 2:38 PM gevisz wrote: > > ср, 9 янв. 2019 г. в 19:36, Rich Freeman : > > > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:21 AM gevisz wrote: > > > > > > On the other side, app-crypt/gkeys is marked by ~ > > > in my architecture (amd64). So,

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage snapshot signing key expired again

2019-01-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 6:21 AM gevisz wrote: > > Just tonight I tried to update my portage snapshot > by emerge-webrsync command and found out that > the portage snapshot signing key expired again > without being properly updated by app-crypt/gentoo-keys > update before its expiration as

Re: [gentoo-user] How to trace down compilation issues if the compilation does not break...?

2019-01-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:31 AM wrote: > > The problem with this problem is, that the compilation process > is successful and all files will be removed from /var/tmp/portage > afterwards. > If you already have the dependencies installed all you have to do is chdir to the directory with the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CoC loving Linux programmers swear the GPLv2 is irrevocable. They are wrong. (As are the women they wish to empower).

2019-01-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 3:44 PM Dale wrote: > > Question. Why are these license discussions being done on a USER list > instead of a DEVELOPER list? Gentoo has mailing lists that are to be > used for this sort of topic. How about taking them there? Here is a > link with them listed. > This is

Re: [gentoo-user] @preserved-rebuild how to find out the contents of

2018-12-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 11:03 AM Andrew Udvare wrote: > > > On Dec 29, 2018, at 10:47, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > > > How can I find out the list of packages in @preserved-rebuild? > > There's a JSON file in /var/db/portage > Not sure if there is anything that directly targets the API here, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: You removed Weboob package over political reasons? Whole Internet laughs at you

2018-12-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 11:25 AM Davyd McColl wrote: > wtf is this toxicity? Not enough hugs from mommy? > This discussion has nothing to do with Gentoo. Please refrain from dragging it out - it was cross-posted to about half a dozen different lists. It is not necessary to "win" an argument

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is it that hard to add a package, or am I doing wrong?

2018-12-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 8:39 AM Nils Freydank wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 20. Dezember 2018, 12:28:17 CET schrieb Nuno Silva: > > On 2018-12-20, YUE Daian wrote: > > > On 2018-12-20 03:50, Nils Freydank wrote: > > > [...] > > >> Additionally bugzilla is seen as too impractical to use for new

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it that hard to add a package, or am I doing wrong?

2018-12-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 9:24 PM YUE Daian wrote: > > Recently I posted a bug report to Gentoo Bugzilla and submitted a > request to add package Roswell into the package tree. > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/638446 > > But...in fact it was not "recent" at all! I submitted the bug one year > ago and

Re: [gentoo-user] data recovery advice needed

2018-12-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 2:32 PM Jack wrote: > > ddrescue has now been running for almost 22 hours, and it's been 47 > seconds less than that since its last successful read. There is of course no guarantee that it will EVER successfully read all your data. You might be able to tell it to skip

Re: [gentoo-user] System reboot

2018-12-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 10:54 PM Dale wrote: > > I checked the messages log. Before with the memory hogging Dolphin it > had logged the problem. Today, it shows this: > > > Dec 15 20:40:01 fireball CROND[30668]: (root) CMD (/usr/lib64/sa/sa1 1 1) > Dec 15 20:50:01 fireball CROND[1532]: (root)

Re: [gentoo-user] data recovery advice needed

2018-12-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 6:33 PM Jack wrote: > > So, I removed that HDD for safekeeping (completely reinstalled the > laptop on a new drive) and now I'm trying to recover data from an > intact partition on the old drive, the problem being that the drive is > giving some read errors, so I want to

Re: [gentoo-user] LVM and moving drive to another sata port.

2018-12-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 9:13 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm planning to change some connections while swapping and wanted to be > sure of something before I do any moves like this. Let's say I move sdc > and it becomes sdb. Will LVM still see it the same way? Yes. At least by default LVM is going to

Re: [gentoo-user] RAM checks for chromium

2018-12-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 5:48 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday, 7 December 2018 10:17:17 GMT Andreas Fink wrote: > > On Fri, 07 Dec 2018 10:14:45 + > > > > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > And today, of course, there's an upgrade. That's another reason I > > > ditched it. Is there a way to

Re: [gentoo-user] System crash, more than once. Out of memory problem.

2018-11-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 6:16 PM Alan Grimes wrote: > > Programmers these days don't seem to have any concept that memory is > finite and that it's usage should be optimized. =| > I have it on good authority that unused memory is wasted memory. It is a good thing that I never run more than one

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd/dracut: Correctly boot using flash drive with LUKS key?

2018-11-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:15 PM Andrew Udvare wrote: > > I am not sure if there is a way to move the systemd-cryptsetup@home.service > up the dependency tree once it's working, which would then remove the > mnt-chuan.mount dependency. > Ok, I did a bit more reading. You're using the

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd/dracut: Correctly boot using flash drive with LUKS key?

2018-11-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:11 AM Andrew Udvare wrote: > > - use key to decrypt root partition (systemd job in the first systemd > launched within initramfs) > ... > Nov 16 00:01:52 limelight systemd[1]: Dependency failed for /mnt/chuan. > Nov 16 00:01:52 limelight systemd[1]: mnt-chuan.mount: Job

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2018-11-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 3:17 AM Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > I'll second your comments on ceph after my experience - great idea for > large scale systems, otherwise performance is quite poor on small > systems. Needs at least GB connections with two networks as well as only > one or two drives per

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive storage questions

2018-11-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:16 PM Dale wrote: > > I'm trying to come up with a > plan that allows me to grow easier and without having to worry about > running out of motherboard based ports. > So, this is an issue I've been changing my mind on over the years. There are a few common approaches: *

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Permissions error on starting X.

2018-11-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 11:27 AM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 05/11/2018 17:30, Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2018-11-04, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 03/11/2018 16:01, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >>> The developers, in this instance, failed to raise the ebuild's version > >>> number from 1.20.3

Re: [gentoo-user] Permissions error on starting X.

2018-11-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 10:01 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > If you start your X server from the command line with, e.g. startx, you > now need to set the new(?) suid USE flag for the xorg-server package. > Sometimes. I thought this was only required if you're not using KMS. Is this not the case?

Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 7:11 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 4:29 PM John Covici wrote: > > > > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:55:53 -0400, > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici wrote: > > > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 4:29 PM John Covici wrote: > > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 14:55:53 -0400, > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici wrote: > > > > > > So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and > &

Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 2:04 PM John Covici wrote: > > So, I have not been able to figure this out, it did not abort and > wants to install the masked package, so hear is the whole output --- > thanks for all your help. > What is the actual package.mask set to? Does the same mask cover both the

Re: [gentoo-user] how to prevent portage from installing masked package

2018-10-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 9:12 AM John Covici wrote: > > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 08:26:15 -0400, > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > [1 ] > > On Sat, 06 Oct 2018 07:05:52 -0400, John Covici wrote: > > > > > Hi. I am in a situation where portage wants to install a package > > > which I have masked. Its

Re: [gentoo-user] rootstrap

2018-09-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:27 AM james wrote: > > So what is the best way to find the actual old 1.3 ebuild of rootstrap, > associated "files"? When rootstrap was removed it was at 0.3.24. What 1.3 ebuild are you referring to? The last version in the Gentoo repo can be found at:

Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble on the horizon!

2018-09-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 8:42 AM Philip Webb wrote: > > The problem seems to have arisen when he arranged a family holiday > which clashed with an important Linux conference > & irritated a lot of important people in the corporate Linux world. I can't imagine that it helped when they moved the

Re: [gentoo-user] backing up a partition

2018-08-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:09 AM Mick wrote: > > However, you may prefer to use clonezilla instead of dd. The dd command will > copy each and every bit and byte of the partition whether it has data on it or > not. It is not particularly efficient. Clonezilla will perform better at > this task.

Re: [gentoo-user] AMDGPU eventually hangs my system

2018-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 3:06 PM wrote: > > I finally got my kernel rebuilt with support for the AMDGPU. ... Then my > system started hanging. > I've had the same issues. On recent kernels like 4.17.17 it isn't too bad, but sometimes it will hang on boot or on shutdown. Hangs during running

Re: [gentoo-user] When a package is marked as stable or not?

2018-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 8:02 AM Alarig Le Lay wrote: > > I’m a little curious about the way a package is considered as stable or > ~arch. > Packages always start out in ~arch and sometimes become stable. A package version CAN be made stable if: 1. It has been in ~arch for 30 days (exceptions

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge completly a package but dont install it?

2018-08-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 1:28 PM wrote: > > On 08/09 09:48, Mateusz Lenik wrote: > > Turns out emerge has this nice flag (excerpt from emerge(1) manpage): > > > > --buildpkgonly, -B > > Creates binary packages for all ebuilds processed without > > actually merging the packages. This

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting PYTHON_TARGETS in make.conf is not supported?

2018-07-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:57 AM Grand Duet wrote: > > Just now I have tried to manually set > > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_6" > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6" > > !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "app-text/asciidoc" has unmet requirements. > - app-text/asciidoc-8.6.10::gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Any real need to switch python targets back and forth every month?

2018-07-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 8:45 AM Grand Duet wrote: > > Anyway, it is a good idea to write a news on changing python_targets > and major version of gcc, even if no developper expects any troubles, > because we already know their predictive (dis)ability. :) > You won't get any argument from me

Re: [gentoo-user] Any real need to switch python targets back and forth every month?

2018-07-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 6:44 AM Grand Duet wrote: > > Before switching python_targets for the first time, you could use your > news system to inform Gentoo users that > 1) you are switching python_targets > 2) it may be "a bit premature", If anybody thought that it was a bit premature it

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads up: Gentoo fouls up mail transport agent.

2018-07-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 6:57 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 18:10:58 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > Apologies to the maintainers and users of nullmailer. Yeah, there is nothing wrong with nullmailer. It is a minimalist MTA for systems where you just want to relay mail to

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: webmail choices, ARGH!

2018-07-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:47 PM Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > Is _every_ fscking webmail package written in php? Why? > Not at all. There is Zimbra which doesn't seem to use PHP at all. Just Java, Ruby, and Perl from the look of it... -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 11:06 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > > git rev-parse HEAD >! .git/shallow > git reflog expire --expire=all --all > git gc --prune=now > Before anybody bangs their head against the wall too much I did end up having syncing issues with this. I suspect the

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 8:00 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > That's all I need for the portage tree, unless removing everything at lower > depths will remove the change records. If you clone with a depth of one you'll see the current state of the tree, and a commit message from the CI bot, and that

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 4:30 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday, 6 July 2018 06:34:01 BST Davyd McColl wrote: > > > 1) `sync-depth` has been deprecated (should now use `clone-depth`) > > But to what value should clone-depth be set? That comes down to personal taste. Do you want any history

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 4:28 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > It's the *history* of the metadata which matters here: You make a reasonable point here. > > "The council does not require that ChangeLogs be generated or > > distrib

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re[4]: Re: Portage, git and shallow cloning

2018-07-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 5:29 PM Martin Vaeth wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 1:34 AM Martin Vaeth wrote: > >> > >> Biggest issue is that git signature happens by the developer who > >> last commited which means that in practic

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