[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 08:26, Daniel Frey wrote: > I don't see any extra spaces in Dale's message, you should also > probably check your local configuration. They render fine for me in mutt/neomutt, too. I can only see the strange spaces in my editor (emacs 24) when I start replying to him and quote his

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 03:59, Dale wrote: > That last bit should read can NOT win. Brain didn't quite make it all > the way to keyboard. lol I read it as beautifully subtle sarcasm, so it worked fine as it was. BTW, your mails are full of strange space characters - I didn't investigate if they're some Un

[gentoo-user] Re: bash scrip prompt after bootstrap

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 11:29, Bas Zoutendijk wrote: > echo 'export PS1="You have chrooted into '$HOST' from $PS1"; exec \ >

[gentoo-user] Re: [TOT: Total offtopic]

2018-04-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 01:28, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > I have one from almost 10 years ago, whats the difference :[? how can > you tell? You mean Unicomp? At that time, although they were not quite the old IBM, they were close, probably still using the original design to which they had bought rights. Bu

[gentoo-user] Re: [TOT: Total offtopic]

2018-04-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-02 04:14, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Do you have experience in removing the steel back plate from the > keyboard and later add it back with screws fixing the whole thing > instead of the rivets, which needs to be removed for this? No, unfortunately I cannot help. I've had mine for about

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-01 18:22, Dale wrote: > Just for giggles, I tried to re-emerge palemoon. This is part of the > output I got. > > * Supported GCC versions: 4.7, 4.9 > * Selected GCC version: 6.4 I no longer use the overlay; I have my own private ebuild series. I tried to remove the old gcc dependenc

[gentoo-user] Re: [TOT: Total offtopic]

2018-04-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-01 12:04, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > If you are unable to fix it yourself (but I think you can :D) Unicomp > offers parts and repairs for Model M's (along with their kentucky usa > made Model M's - they use the original tooling) I have owned Unicomp keyboards, and those made after a cert

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-01 16:29, Martin Vaeth wrote: > An alarm sign for me was that palemoon was eventually dropped for > android after being practically unmaintained (i.e. with known open > security holes) for months/years. A similar alarm sign concerning > linux is that they were not able to pull the fixes

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-04-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-04-01 09:15, Martin Vaeth wrote: > If you speak about defenses like noscript, there are safer variants > available. I guess the usage of the already mentioned user.js (of > course adapted to your needs) together with current Webextensions > noscript, ublock-origin, and https-everywhere (ma

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and addons no longer supported question

2018-03-31 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-31 08:18, Martin Vaeth wrote: > As usual, there is the balance > "convenience" (old plugins) <-> "security". > In the beginning (say, until firefox-52 is no longer supported > upstream), there is a certain choice. But after that staying on the > "convenience" side is not sane anymore.

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc-6.4.0-r1::gentoo failed (compile phase)

2018-03-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-28 16:09, Grant Taylor wrote: > The point being, NBD / AoE / iSCSI are SAN technologies and not > conducive for multiple clients to access at the same time (without a > clustered file system). Unlike NFS which is safe for multiple clients > to access at the same time. So, having multi

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc-6.4.0-r1::gentoo failed (compile phase)

2018-03-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-28 15:08, Grant Taylor wrote: > Doesn't NBD (iSCSI and ATA over Ethernet) show up more like SAN > compared to NFS which is NAS? Well, that's too many 3-letter acronyms for me ;-) It is lower level, yes. All the filesystem code is on the client; the server only handles requests of the

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc-6.4.0-r1::gentoo failed (compile phase)

2018-03-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-28 17:40, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I think NFS may be simpler to operate, but that may be because I'm > more familiar with it. You just need something like this in the Atom's > /etc/ exports: /usr/portage > 192.168.1.5(rw,no_subtree_check,anonuid=250,anongid=250,no_wdelay) NBD (Network

[gentoo-user] Re: What is the meaning of "mirror" URI scheme in ebuilds?

2018-03-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-27 22:00, David Haller wrote: > So, using your example, portage looks up the mirror for mirror://gnu > by looking in /etc/portage/mirrors (if it exists) and > /usr/portage/profiles/thirdpartymirrors for a line with the word "gnu" > at the beginning, and then tries the mirrors specified

[gentoo-user] What is the meaning of "mirror" URI scheme in ebuilds?

2018-03-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Example from app-editors/emacs/emacs-24.5-r5 : SRC_URI="mirror://gnu/emacs/${P}.tar.xz https://dev.gentoo.org/~ulm/emacs/${P}-patches-4.tar.xz"; -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only

[gentoo-user] Re: The return of the dreaded "Cannot run C compiled programs"

2018-03-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Have you looked at config.log in the work directory after the failed build? Those are very verbose, including the source code of tests run. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_ on Usenet an

[gentoo-user] Re: Would unmerging xorg-server certainly help it?

2018-03-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-25 17:49, Martin Vaeth wrote: > It should be scrnsaverproto-1.2.2-r2 which is pulled in. > Maybe you sync'ed at an unfortunate moment. Try emerge --sync again. In my case at least, the root cause was this: in the nightly webrsync snapshot (which I prefer to use instead of rsync), scrns

[gentoo-user] OT: github (and gitlab, etc etc): track down a particular commit

2018-03-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Very often, for a some large FLOSS project (often but not always packaged by gentoo) I am interested in answering the question: Which official released released versions V1.0, V2.0 etc contain a particular commit C1ABCDE? Using branches as an imperfect but mostly OK proxy for releases, the questi

[gentoo-user] Re: New xorg-proto package blocks everything else.

2018-03-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-25 13:50, Neil Bothwick wrote: > The only hard block here appears to be xscrnsaverproto, unmerge that and > the rest should take care of themselves. I had all the soft blocks today > but not that one, and everything worked fine. But ... I actually have packages that depend on scrnsaver

[gentoo-user] Re: A new AMD CPU weakness?

2018-03-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-14 10:28, Pengcheng Xu wrote: > Actually there’s a more memorable link that describes the matter > concisely: > > https://amdflaws.com Thanks for that, but there is nothing on that page I can actually read without lowering my uBlock "shield". I'm going to check out LWN. In any case,

[gentoo-user] A new AMD CPU weakness?

2018-03-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
https://v.gd/PZkiuR Does anyone know more details? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_ on Usenet and on broken lists which rewrite From, fetch the TXT record for no-use.mooo.com.

Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg broken?

2018-03-07 Thread Ian Bloss
Do you have an initramfs? On Wed, Mar 7, 2018, 6:52 AM Christoph Böhmwalder wrote: > I think I broke something once again... > > Rebooting after a recent update caused my X Server to completely die. I > faintly remember some x11-related packages being blocked on that > particular update, but be

[gentoo-user] Re: USB ports reset/restart

2018-03-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-05 20:41, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > I have an usb extension cord pluged-in to the back of the computer "blue > usb port" (I think the color blue designates USB-3), there are two of > them. > My usb stick was working OK on one, but it stopped. I pluged the USB > extension cord to

[gentoo-user] Re: Ripping "enhanced" CDs with abcde/cdparanoia

2018-03-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-04 14:01, Lasse Pouru wrote: > You know, the ones with video or software tracks shoehorned into the > end. Whenever I try to rip one with abcde I get the error "selected > span contains non audio track at track X", even when I've chosen a > range not containing track X (e.g. abcde 1-11,

[gentoo-user] Re: QEMU on a partition

2018-03-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-02 20:12, R0b0t1 wrote: > I can't find it again, but there was a neat writeup investigating the > TCP over TCP "tunnel collapse" phenomena. When two layers are doing > the same thing, there is a tendency for both to behave poorly. I'm not > sure any deeper explanation was or can be offe

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-02 15:51, Grant Taylor wrote: > The reason that messages are being rejected is because of the DMARC > policy. 1) I publish DMARC records and 2) Gmail honor published DMARC > records. [...] > - This is a growing change in the email industry. - I just happen to > live towards (but not

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-02 12:04, Floyd Anderson wrote: > > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 18:12, Dale wrote: > Here is the list of the bounced messages: > - 182748 > - 182749 > - 182751 If you succeed in retrieving them, please let us know which ones they were, so we can guess as to the cause. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also po

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 18:12, Dale wrote: > If it helps, this is the complete message headers and all that I got > for one of them. Obviously, I'm editing out my email addy. I get > enough spam as it is. I'm replacing my email addy with ohnoyourenot > even if it is a partial. It seems to me that they are c

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 23:48, Branko Grubic wrote: > > I keep my messages locally so when I miss messages, it can throw a > > thread into some random weirdness. If one uses the web interface to > > read/reply etc then it wouldn't matter but for those who use email > > software, it seems we are missing som

[gentoo-user] Re: Bouncing Messages

2018-03-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-03-01 14:42, R0b0t1 wrote: > I keep getting emails from the mailer daemon about bouncing messages. > I am worried. Am I missing messages from my internet friends? Please > send help. Do you mean the crud from outlook/365? I get that too; it's probably because my list mail lacks DKIM sigs

[gentoo-user] Re: Best *SIMPLE* firewall?

2018-02-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-28 13:28, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > Is there something besides iptables? It seems to be like > > systemd/perl/python, continuously expanding its scope. And no, I'm > > not looking for an "easy-peasy front-end gui" that'll probably pull > > in 90% of QT as dependancies. I fondly rememb

[gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-27 12:45, Rich Freeman wrote: > I use --with-bdeps=n because I really don't care that much about > build-time deps, other than stuff that is going to get updated anyway > like gcc. These packages don't even need to be installed for software > to work correctly, and if a dev does miss a

[gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-27 11:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > A combination of --changed-deps, --with-bdeps=y and --deep is bound to > result in plenty of unnecessary re-emerging. So, what _is_ the recommended set of emerge flags for regular daily or weekly updates (assuming no binary packages)? -- Please don't

[gentoo-user] Re: Is --changed-deps going to be *that* useless?

2018-02-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-27 16:44, Paul Colquhoun wrote: > > > Yes, I use --deep. I've run into cases many times in the past > > > where portage was skipping updates unless I used --deep. > > > > You might want to avoid combining both --deep and --changed-deps. When I read this, I realize I don't understand t

[gentoo-user] Re: Is ABI a portage variable?

2018-02-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-16 11:14, Mike Gilbert wrote: > ABI is a profile variable. On an amd64 system it is defined in > profiles/arch/amd64/make.defaults. > > The ABI variable is used by functions in multilib.eclass, > toolchain-funcs.eclass, and the econf function to determine the > correct libdir (lib, lib

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot Gentoo live iso from grub

2018-02-16 Thread Ian Bloss
Probably need to pass a uuid to the real root kernel param On Fri, Feb 16, 2018, 11:34 AM zless wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm trying to have the Gentoo Live CD ISO as a recovery media in grub. > > I tried all the options I could think off in a custom grub menu entry like > this: > > menuentry "Gen

[gentoo-user] Re: How to test package install?

2018-02-15 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-15 23:39, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > I'm trying to test my package by running "ebuild /path/to/pkg.ebuild > > install". Naturally (for me) I do this as an unprivileged user, not > > as root. It fails because at least some steps such as dobin need to > > give away ownership of the f

[gentoo-user] How to test package install?

2018-02-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I'm trying to test my package by running "ebuild /path/to/pkg.ebuild install". Naturally (for me) I do this as an unprivileged user, not as root. It fails because at least some steps such as dobin need to give away ownership of the files being installed. I tried to run the whole thing including

[gentoo-user] Is ABI a portage variable?

2018-02-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I am trying to package software whose build process (autotools based) depends on a variable "ABI" to determine (on x86 and amd64 arch at least) whether to build as 64 bit or 32 bit. If it is not set externally, the configure script sets it by inspecting the native pointer size of the C compiler, t

[gentoo-user] Re: Vulnerability info in /sys

2018-02-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-13 18:38, Daniel Frey wrote: > > See the other threads: you need at least 4.9.79 for the /sys bits. > I'm surprised I missed those threads, I read all messages on here. > According to the thread I found it's actually starts on 4.9.77, I'm > just on the latest stable (.76). You're prob

[gentoo-user] Re: some spectre v1 code in 4.15.2

2018-02-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-14 00:27, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > It's not so much that we've produced a generation of bad coders who > > don't know better, the problem is no one cares about anything other > > than $$$ in america any more. > > What do you mean, "any more"? Wasn't it ever thus? When I arrived in US

[gentoo-user] Re: some spectre v1 code in 4.15.2

2018-02-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-13 22:50, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > seriously, can we try to keep these corporate schills the hell off the > list? I guess you mean the core kernel devs, who after all wrote the page quoted by Nick? If you feel that way maybe switch to a BSD kernel? -- Please don'

[gentoo-user] Re: Vulnerability info in /sys

2018-02-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-12 19:24, Daniel Frey wrote: > I've read online that there should be vulnerability info (Meltdown, > Spectre) in /sys under /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities but this > doesn't exist on my PC. > I've updated to gentoo-sources-4.9.76-r1, shouldn't this info be present? > > $ unam

[gentoo-user] Re: some spectre v1 code in 4.15.2

2018-02-12 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-13 03:13, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Apparently, and contrary to what people (me included) wrote here in > the past, BPF JIT is the secure option, and the interpreter is the > insecure one. Do you have a reference for this? It sounds strange indeed. -- Please don't Cc: me privately

[gentoo-user] Re: /var/tmp on tmpfs

2018-02-08 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-09 01:15, Wol's lists wrote: > > Care to cite an example of such a program in the Gentoo repo? I > > certainly can't think of any, and I've been running with /var/tmp on > > tmpfs for over a decade. > > I don't know of any. vim? Although that choice was recently criticized on the os

[gentoo-user] Re: Failed builds of kbuild and cdrdao with "undefined reference to `__alloca'"

2018-02-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-04 15:03, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > I still have the problem of failed builds due to an > 'undefined reference to `__alloca''. I recompiled > gcc/glibc and I am using linux-4.15.1 (from kernel.org) > with linux-headers 4.15. . > > Affected are (at least) cdrdao and kbuild. [...] > I

Re: [gentoo-user] Forced rebuild of a package...how?

2018-02-03 Thread Ian Bloss
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade man emerge On Sat, Feb 3, 2018, 8:20 PM wrote: > Hi, > > after installing linux-4.15.1 (downloaded from kernel.org) I want to > reinstall (beside others) nvidia drivers. > > Emerge told me: > |>emerge nvidia-drivers > |Calculating dependencies.

[gentoo-user] Re: A little help for non-native English speakers

2018-02-01 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-02-01 18:55, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I figured that would make the example more confusion which would > > defeat the purpose. > And don't get me started on people using "which" when they should be using > "that". > > (In this case, which is correct but it should have a preceding comma).

[gentoo-user] Re: NeoMutt and GnuPG

2018-01-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-31 05:17, Floyd Anderson wrote: > Instead I suggest to set ‘gpgme’ USE-flag and *only that* – no > ‘crypt’, ‘gpg’, ‘pgp_classic’, ‘smime’, ‘smime_classic’. Look at the > ebuild and especially the comments. This way I only need to set one ! > variable to get the stuff working: > > set c

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 7.3 + kernel 4.15 = spectre_v2 fixed

2018-01-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-29 20:35, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: > To compile the kernel with a different compiler, the method shown > below may be used, e.g.: > make CC=clang Unfortunately, this has the annoying side effect that kconfig forces a full reconfiguration, asking every question. Maybe there is a way ar

[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 7.3 + kernel 4.15 = spectre_v2 fixed

2018-01-29 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-29 20:11, Adam Carter wrote: > Comparing the contents of /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v2 > > With gcc 7.2 + kernel 4.14.15; > Intel system shows; Vulnerable: Minimal generic ASM retpoline > AMD system shows: Vulnerable: Minimal AMD ASM retpoline > > With gcc 7.3 + k

[gentoo-user] Re: Downloading podcasts via the command line?

2018-01-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-27 12:38, Stroller wrote: > Can anyone recommend a command line podcast downloader, please? > > Ideally I want to run it in a cronjob, saving .mp3 files which can be > uploaded to my Google Drive (using net-misc/drive). > > My priority is NPR's Planet Money podcasts - I think they're

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 4.14.14 has meltdown / spectre info in /sys

2018-01-24 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-19 10:50, Adam Carter wrote: > > Looking at the kernel source (for 4.9.77), the flag is initially set no > > matter what in arch/x86/kernel/cpu/common.c @cpu_show_meltdown(), and > > nothing afterwards clears it ... > > > With 4.14.14, pretty much same CPU; > model : 4 > mod

[gentoo-user] Re: Simple SMTP to cmd-line MTA relay?

2018-01-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-19 23:58, Grant Edwards wrote: > That would require seperate outbound transports that are selected > based on how the mail was read: smtp vs. /usr/bin/sendmail (the real > one). I get the impression from exim and postfix docs that outbound > routing based on input method aren't possibl

[gentoo-user] Re: Simple SMTP to cmd-line MTA relay?

2018-01-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-19 20:19, Grant Edwards wrote: > Can exim transfer mail to an Exchange server that doesn't expose an > SMTP server? > >>> > >>> Errr, no. exim does SMTP. > >>> > >>> If the above is what you need, any orthodox mail server would need > >>> to hand the mail over to something tha

[gentoo-user] Re: Simple SMTP to cmd-line MTA relay?

2018-01-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-19 18:49, Grant Edwards wrote: > > Just like the others writing in this thread, I am wondering why you > > need 2 pieces here. Why won't e.g. exim do both sides of this for > > you? It certainly has all the functionality. > > I don't see how you can say that when you don't know the m

[gentoo-user] Re: Simple SMTP to cmd-line MTA relay?

2018-01-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-19 18:03, Grant Edwards wrote: > It needs to accept messages as an SMTP server (using SSL and AUTH on a > non-standard port) from a single user and single source and then relay > them by passing them to a command-line MTA (e.g. /usr/bin/sendmail > replacement provided by msmtp). Just l

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 4.14.14 has meltdown / spectre info in /sys

2018-01-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-19 08:22, Adam Carter wrote: > > On my fam10/barcelona; > > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/meltdown > > Not affected > Ian. which CPU do you have? matica!13 linux$ dmesg | fgrep -i phenom [0.603608] smpboot: CPU0: AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Pr

[gentoo-user] Re: USB3 external storage HD's

2018-01-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-18 13:44, R0b0t1 wrote: > Buy a SATA to USB3 enclosure and a 2.5" laptop drive separately. I got one of those (a Rosewill). First thing I noted was it got _really_ hot after a few minutes of use. Hot as in highly unpleasant to touch. Nonetheless I kept using it, but it stopped worki

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 4.14.14 has meltdown / spectre info in /sys

2018-01-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-18 19:28, Adam Carter wrote: > Nice; > > $ ls /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/ > meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v2 > $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/meltdown > Mitigation: PTI > $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/spectre_v1 > Vulnerable > $ cat /sys/devi

[gentoo-user] Re: OT awk question

2018-01-16 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-17 12:49, Adam Carter wrote: > I'm using this to grab a section of text across multiple lines, how do > i get it to exit after the first match? > > awk '/foo/,/bar/' I don't think I ever tried to match multiple line range. I would do it like this: /foo/ { selecting = 1; } ( selecti

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox 57.0.4 without pulseaudio? Possible?

2018-01-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-14 18:50, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > And: I dont want to start a flame war here. Yoy asked and tried > to give a answer, which may be useful onlu to explain my own point > of view. Yes, it is very useful, many thanks. Exactly what I asked for. -- Please don't Cc: me privately on maili

[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox 57.0.4 without pulseaudio? Possible?

2018-01-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-14 05:49, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > I tried Palemoon some time ago. I checked its security and privacy > feature with certain sites on the internet, which provide such > services and found some issues, which I wanted to discuss on their > forum. The answer was not to believe such sites a

[gentoo-user] Re: fsck check of /usr on a separate partition fails during boot

2018-01-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-13 15:49, Dale wrote: > I think without a init thingy, it mounts / ro at first, runs the checks > and then remounts rw. Right. > I think it does the same with /usr. No, other filesystems are not mounted at all until they're checked, in this situation (which is the traditional one, fs

[gentoo-user] Re: glibc emerge error

2018-01-11 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-11 07:28, Corbin Bird wrote: > > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$VULKAN_SDK/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH This is wrong, because it will put the current directory (as represented by the empty string) into the list even if it wasn't there originally. Try something like this (untested): export LD_LIBRA

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching from Seamonkey to Firefox and Thunderbird

2018-01-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-05 17:02, Dale wrote: > I may just have to find a new password tool to use. LastPass did all > I wanted and then some but since it no longer works in Seamonkey, I've > got to find something that will. Here are some things to be aware of: https://github.com/IJHack/QtPass/issues/338 ht

[gentoo-user] Re: Switching from Seamonkey to Firefox and Thunderbird

2018-01-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-05 15:04, Dale wrote: > Without this, I'll have to copy and paste all the links I want to > open. That is just not a good option. No matter which way I go, > something is broken. You can write a script that takes the contents of the clipboard [1], possibly makes sure it is a valid URL

[gentoo-user] Re: Expect a ~15% average slowdown if you use an Intel processor

2018-01-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-05 11:10, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Symbol: HAVE_EBPF_JIT [=y] > > │ > │ Type : boolean > │ Defined at net/Kconfig:436 > │ Selected by: X86 [=y] && X86_64 [=y] >

[gentoo-user] Re: In search of a program to do different b/w dithering methods

2018-01-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2018-01-02 15:57, Grant Edwards wrote: > If you don't find what you want in Imagemagick, the second place you > look is Imagemagick -- it's probably there and you missed it the first > time. And the third place you look is Graphicsmagick :-) -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 4.14.7 no longer switches to VT7

2017-12-31 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-31 01:56, Peter Humphrey wrote: > If you don't mind my asking, what factors make you prefer vanilla to > gentoo sources? (I assume that's what you use.) One reason is security fixes. Sometimes longterm vanilla already includes the fixes from mainline, and when it does not, I know that

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 4.14.7 no longer switches to VT7

2017-12-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-31 00:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: > But the whole 4.12 branch has been masked, so that won't do. Here, > I've had to go back to 4.9.49-r1 (amd64, not ~amd64). But now I see > 4.9.72 has been stabilised. I think I'll wait for some stabiliity in > the kernel version offerings before I make

[gentoo-user] Re: Kernel 4.14.7 no longer switches to VT7

2017-12-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-30 17:26, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > It took a lot of work, but this latest kernel 14.4 enables support for > machines with 128 pebibytes of RAM, up from the old limit of 256 TiB. > > > On 12/30/2017 05:16 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > On my thinkpad, 4.14 crashes ... when I

[gentoo-user] dispatch-conf, the big pic?

2017-12-30 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I realized I don't really understand it - I just repeat by rote some keystrokes. In particular: What do the 'z' and 'n' commands do exactly, and what's the difference between them? After I do a 'm', how do I actually use the result of the merge? Is the merged file now the same as the 'new' one,

[gentoo-user] Re: xosview fails to launch with missing font 7x13bold

2017-12-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
[replying to self] On 2017-12-25 18:30, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-12-23 18:09, Jack wrote: > > > After a reboot today, to switch to 4.14.8-r1, x11-misc/xosview-1.19 > > (installed last March) fails to launch with "xosview: display :0 > > cannot load font 7x13bo

[gentoo-user] Re: xosview fails to launch with missing font 7x13bold

2017-12-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-23 18:09, Jack wrote: > After a reboot today, to switch to 4.14.8-r1, x11-misc/xosview-1.19 > (installed last > March) fails to launch with "xosview: display :0 cannot load font 7x13bold" > > 7x13bold is from media-fonts/font-misc-misc - I have 1.1.2-r1 installed > 12/16. I > can't

[gentoo-user] Re: How to harden a system

2017-12-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-24 14:44, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > POWER 9: TALOS 2 (server/workstation, brand new and very high > performance - the only brand new hardware that is legitimately libre) This is interesting, but can it run gentoo? There's a handbook edition for PPC64, but that's not quite the same, is

[gentoo-user] Re: after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

2017-12-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-22 11:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > sys-apps/systemd openrc python_targets_python2_7 abi_x86_32 -sysv-utils > > to /etc/portage/package.use > > With this, both, openrc and systemd build just fine. > > My init system is openrc, and with this all seems to work just fine. Would you mind

[gentoo-user] Re: Status of a GIT repository

2017-12-20 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-20 17:28, Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote: > 2) Although, all the ways to check it would be too hard for your purpose. Well, "git log" still works in a bare repo, right? It is true that it would be necessary to do it in each subtree of git3-src, and remember the result somehow. -- P

[gentoo-user] Re: Choice of TLD for internal network

2017-12-19 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-18 08:56, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > You should probably buy a TLD. (Understood that you mean "buy a domain".) I'd like to remind everyone (again?) of FreeDNS (aka afraid.org). You can get a 3rd level name free, and then subdivide that as you like. They won't _delegate_ to you (unless

[gentoo-user] Re: Choice of TLD for internal network

2017-12-18 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-19 00:10, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Maybe not. See the debate at > https://community.nethserver.org/t/i-fell-at-the-first-hurdle/8563/4 "You can't simply edit configuration files." I stopped reading there. {8-P -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-13 10:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: > A good healthy dose of manners like your Mama taught you is in short > supply around here right now. The worst insults are stated without any foul language. Indeed, I'll say that in general "insulting" is an attribute of ideas, not of words. Some of t

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-14 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-14 11:57, Marc Joliet wrote: > I could list specific features of systemd that I like and make use of > (such as socket activation, autofs integration, user units, nspawn, or > the journal), but thinking about it, it's a "more than the sum of its > parts" kind of deal. Managing a system

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-13 12:52, Walter Dnes wrote: > My big hate is the ever-growing dependancy list of gtk. Which is one of the big reasons why I masked gtk3. Sadly I don't know how much longer I can keep that, as at least one favorite program of mine now requires it. -- Please don't Cc: me privately

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-10 21:31, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > You just don't notice udisks, it's quietly running in the background > doing its thing without taking either much disk space, memory, nor CPU > usage. I know Dr. Valdés will not respond but maybe someone else will, as this is a factual question.

[gentoo-user] Why are these files restricted?

2017-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
$ for f in /etc/at/at.deny /etc/cron.hourly/0anacron /etc/default/useradd ; do ls -l $f ; qfile $f ; done -rw-r- 1 root at 166 Dec 10 16:57 /etc/at/at.deny sys-process/at (/etc/at/at.deny) -rwxr-x--- 1 root root 392 Nov 4 21:04 /etc/cron.hourly/0anacron sys-process/cronie (/etc/cron.hourly/0

[gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-09 12:00, Jorge Almeida wrote: > Are you sure you need udisks? And policykit? I'm guessing you have > some default USE variables which if removed would contribute to a > cleaner system. I just checked the documentation about udisks in the > freedesktop site. I didn't manage to understan

[gentoo-user] OT: git, how to compare a repo with a loose tree

2017-12-07 Thread Ian Zimmerman
I would like to use "git diff" to show differences between the current state of a git repository and a normal directory tree somewhere on the filesystem, ie. one without a .git subdirectory. This is proving surprisingly hard to do. git diff has a documented mode to compare general "paths" as they

[gentoo-user] Re: is multi-core really worth it?

2017-12-06 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-06 16:07, Wols Lists wrote: > The contents of /var/tmp are expected to survive a system crash, as that > is where vi, emacs, libreoffice et al are expected to store their > recovery logs. The case of vi has recently been discussed extensively on oss-security :-P As for emacs, that's j

[gentoo-user] Re: git wants a password to portage sync

2017-12-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-06 05:53, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > No, all machines are set up as keyless ssh - git has never needed it > there. In frustration I created keys and set portage up as a keyless > ssh account as well, no change. ssh messages are sometimes misleading. For instance, ssh would say something

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-05 14:02, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > [0] http://people.redhat.com/drepper/dsohowto.pdf > > Ah. Right. I see now. The error message you're showing probably means that -fpic is in effect when in fact -fPIC is needed. Quoting the gcc manual: If the GOT size for the linked executable ex

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-04 18:13, Daniel Frey wrote: > I guess I'll have to remember to use 500M+ /boot partitions now. Sigh. I don't get it. matica!7 rc$ du /boot/grub 2022/boot/grub/i386-pc 1340/boot/grub/fonts 2785/boot/grub/themes/starfield 2786/boot/grub/themes 3163/boot/grub/locale

[gentoo-user] Re: Will profile 17.0 break 3rd party binaries?

2017-12-04 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-05 00:05, Holger Hoffstätte wrote: > > There are a number of third-party binary executables that I use > > regularly on my Gentoo systems. These are dynamically linked, > > x86-64, programs that typically depend on various X11 and Qt/Gtk > > libraries. They were either extracted from

[gentoo-user] palemoon and gcc [Was: Emerge does want to tell me...what?]

2017-12-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-03 22:45, Simon Thelen wrote: > It might be that palemoon has issues with certain > optimizations/instruction sets that are aggravated by using newer gcc > versions (which could turn on optimizations by default etc). Yes, this is my provisional explanation too. > I tried checking when

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-03 18:58, Simon Thelen wrote: > Palemoon builds fine with gcc 6.4.0 (just not with gcc 7.2.0), if the > ebuild you're using requires an older gcc it's either wrong or doing > something weird. It builds, but the result binary crashes every 10 minutes. Have you tried it? The ebuild fro

[gentoo-user] Re: Emerge does want to tell me...what?

2017-12-03 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-03 06:46, Heiko Baums wrote: > 1. It can't find >=sys-devel/gcc-6.4.0 but only older gcc versions. > > 2. You have installed a package that depend on sys-devel/gcc-5.4.0-r3 > or sys-devel/gcc-4.9.4. > > I already explained what you can do in the first case. In the second > case I woul

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-02 20:14, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > >> You're seeing a lot of reports because there is a news item telling > >> people to switch to the new profile and run "emerge -e @world". > > > > Does this mean that "emerge -e @world" should be run or that the > > news item is wrong in this point?

[gentoo-user] Re: grub-0.97-r16 and profile 17.0 change

2017-12-02 Thread Ian Zimmerman
This profile change seems to have hit a few people in sensitive locations. What is the upshot of this change? Can I eyeball the diff _before_ I sync ? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and Usenet, if you also post the followup to the list or newsgroup. To reply privately _only_

[gentoo-user] Re: mesa build failure

2017-11-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-27 21:07, Alan McKinnon wrote: > mesa has 18 versions in-tree and mesa-17.1.8 is the second oldest. Any > special reason you are stuck so far back? A package.mask you no longr > actually need maybe? All the later ones are ~arch ? -- Please don't Cc: me privately on mailing lists and

[gentoo-user] Re: Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-27 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-27 17:13, Ralph Seichter wrote: > These few lines save you from all the potential hassle that sharing > read/write access to the same files could bring. Dovecot will ensure > that indexes are up to date when mail is delivered, and that alone is > reason enough for me. Do you really nee

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