Re: [gentoo-user] bad $PATH

2024-05-02 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 2 May 2024 at 14:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday, 2 May 2024 13:55:42 BST Jorge Almeida wrote: > > I have > > /var/lib/bin > > in my $PATH (both as root and as normal user) > > > Anyone with the same problem/weirdness? > > Nope. Have you tried 'grep -r var/lib/bin /etc' ? > > I

Re: [gentoo-user] bad $PATH

2024-05-02 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Thu, 2 May 2024 at 15:07, Petr Vaněk wrote: > On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 01:55:42PM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > > I have /var/lib/bin in my $PATH (both as root and as normal user) > > > Do you have app-admin/xstow installed? This seems to be the (only) > Indeed, I had it in the world file,

Re: [gentoo-user] bad $PATH

2024-05-02 Thread Petr Vaněk
On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 01:55:42PM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > I have /var/lib/bin in my $PATH (both as root and as normal user) > > [snip] What could be setting this? (grep /var/lib/bin /etc/conf.d/* > returns nothing) Do you have app-admin/xstow installed? This seems to be the (only)

Re: [gentoo-user] bad $PATH

2024-05-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 2 May 2024 13:55:42 BST Jorge Almeida wrote: > I have > /var/lib/bin > in my $PATH (both as root and as normal user) > > That directory does not exist. Should it exist!? > What could be setting this? > (grep /var/lib/bin /etc/conf.d/* returns nothing) > > Anyone with the same

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > OK, so 'boot' is for the Linux /boot directory. I was just curious > > since I had never used one. When I started using Linux, the received wisdom was to keep a separate /boot, and leave it unmounted during normal

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: Grant Edwards wrote: > The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be > 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-02 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 2 May 2024 00:45:29 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > >> Grant Edwards wrote: > >>> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be > >>> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be > >>> 8302, but I've always

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-compiling environment for Rapberry

2024-05-01 Thread Alexandru N. Barloiu
On 4/30/2024 12:26 AM, ralfconn wrote: The crossdev environment on the desktop knows nothing about the packages installed on the Pi, so I copied /var/db/pkg from Pi to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/var/db/pkg on the desktop. I ran emerge --sync on the Pi and on the desktop approximatively at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >> >>> The partition type code for 'swap' is wrong -- it should be >>> 8200. According to the gdisk help info Linux /home is supposed to be >>> 8302, but I've always used the same generic "Linux filesystem" type >>> for

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-compiling environment for Rapberry

2024-05-01 Thread ralfconn
Il 01/05/24 19:54, ralfconn ha scritto: Il 01/05/24 19:05, Michael ha scritto: I've built the cross toolchain with 'crossdev --taget aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu' per wiki [2]. I've selected a 23.0-split-usr profile on the Pi since this is the one supported by the crossdev (or so I understood

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-05-01, Dale wrote: > >> OK.  One last update in case someone googles and runs up on this >> thread.  I'm using gdisk to display this, because I think it will do >> better in email.  If I use cgdisk, it is wider and will wrap more.  >> This is what the partition

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-05-01 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > One last update.  I found a video.  They were using gdisk but the > crucial part, he got it to display the partition layout.  It was like I > described as for as the alignment thing, tiny partition with ef02 and > then carry on as usual from there.  > > I need to do this on a disk

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-compiling environment for Rapberry

2024-05-01 Thread ralfconn
Il 01/05/24 19:05, Michael ha scritto: I've built the cross toolchain with 'crossdev --taget aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu' per wiki [2]. I've selected a 23.0-split-usr profile on the Pi since this is the one supported by the crossdev (or so I understood from the error message when I tried with the

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-compiling environment for Rapberry

2024-05-01 Thread Michael
On Monday, 29 April 2024 22:26:49 BST ralfconn wrote: > Hello, > > I recently got me a Raspberry Pi4b to use as a PiHole [1]. As a first > step I put user-space Gentoo (i.e. aarch64 stage3) on it and now I am > trying to set up my desktop to cross-compile binary packages for the PI, > to keep the

Re: [gentoo-user] cross-compiling environment for Rapberry

2024-05-01 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 11:26:49PM +0200 schrieb ralfconn: > Hello, > > I recently got me a Raspberry Pi4b to use as a PiHole [1]. As a first step I > put user-space Gentoo (i.e. aarch64 stage3) on it and now I am trying to set > up my desktop to cross-compile binary packages for the PI, to keep

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-30 Thread Sergey Filatov
On 30.04.2024 0:35, Michael wrote: On Monday, 29 April 2024 21:28:35 BST Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday, 29 April 2024 16:11:31 BST Dale wrote: Only bad side of IPv6, it's a lot of typing for all that. o_O There's a worse aspect: you have to undersand what you're doing. Or you

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-29 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Monday, 29 April 2024 21:28:35 BST Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Monday, 29 April 2024 16:11:31 BST Dale wrote: Only bad side of IPv6, it's a lot of typing for all that. o_O >>> There's a worse aspect: you have to undersand what you're doing. Or you >>> can

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-29 Thread Michael
On Monday, 29 April 2024 21:28:35 BST Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 29 April 2024 16:11:31 BST Dale wrote: > >> Only bad side of IPv6, it's a lot of typing for all that. o_O > > > > There's a worse aspect: you have to undersand what you're doing. Or you > > can > > just tell

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-29 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 29 April 2024 16:11:31 BST Dale wrote: > >> Only bad side of IPv6, it's a lot of typing for all that. o_O > There's a worse aspect: you have to undersand what you're doing. Or you can > just tell your firewall not to allow any IPv6 packets in or out at all. >

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 29 April 2024 16:11:31 BST Dale wrote: > Only bad side of IPv6, it's a lot of typing for all that. o_O There's a worse aspect: you have to undersand what you're doing. Or you can just tell your firewall not to allow any IPv6 packets in or out at all. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-29 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 28 April 2024 03:29:09 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> On Saturday, 27 April 2024 23:30:46 BST Dale wrote: > [snip ...] > Anyone ever seen this? Searching didn't help. This is a new kernel so maybe I missed something in there? >>> Yes, most likely. >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] frei0r-plugins opencv ffmpeg Error: circular dependencies

2024-04-29 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Monday, 29 April 2024 06:07:04 BST Dale wrote: >> Dale wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> I'm installing Gentoo on that old Dell Inspiron still. I'm getting >>> close. I'm now at this. >>> >>> >>> * Error: circular dependencies: >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] frei0r-plugins opencv ffmpeg Error: circular dependencies

2024-04-29 Thread Dale
Hi, What it did, it caused a package to fail that the others depended on.  Once it failed, the others failed as well.  I did a search on the forum and found one thread that had the problem.  I do wish people would use better topic tittles than 'my emerge failed' or oh my upgrade stopped' or some

Re: [gentoo-user] frei0r-plugins opencv ffmpeg Error: circular dependencies

2024-04-29 Thread Michael
On Monday, 29 April 2024 06:07:04 BST Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > I'm installing Gentoo on that old Dell Inspiron still. I'm getting > > close. I'm now at this. > > > > > > * Error: circular dependencies: > > > > (media-plugins/frei0r-plugins-1.8.0:0/0::gentoo, ebuild

Re: [gentoo-user] frei0r-plugins opencv ffmpeg Error: circular dependencies

2024-04-28 Thread Waldo Lemmer
Hi Dale, CFLAGS can't have an effect on dependencies. It is passed to make; emerge doesn't use it. Emerge does use CPU_FLAGS_*, but I don't know if those flags are used for any conditional dependencies. Regards, Waldo On Mon, Apr 29, 2024, 07:07 Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] frei0r-plugins opencv ffmpeg Error: circular dependencies

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm installing Gentoo on that old Dell Inspiron still.  I'm getting > close.  I'm now at this.  > > >  * Error: circular dependencies: > > (media-plugins/frei0r-plugins-1.8.0:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) depends on >  (media-libs/opencv-4.9.0:0/4.9.0::gentoo,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Wol
On 28/04/2024 17:40, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using a GPT

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: >> On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: >>> Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. That empty

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 19:39:16 BST Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector > >> and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. > >> That empty space does not exist

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-28, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> With DOS disk lables, Grub uses empty space between the boot sector >> and the first partition as a location to store it's core image file. >> That empty space does not exist when using GPT disk label. When using >> a GPT disk label,

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 28 April 2024 13:57:23 BST Dale wrote: > >> I just got to figure out how to make it so I can login as root via ssh >> again. I set PermitRootLogin to yes in ssh config but still refuses. I >> did it on my NAS box but can't recall what else I had to do. > Just checking

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 13:57:23 BST Dale wrote: > I just got to figure out how to make it so I can login as root via ssh > again. I set PermitRootLogin to yes in ssh config but still refuses. I > did it on my NAS box but can't recall what else I had to do. Just checking the obvious, did you

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Dale
Mickaël Bucas wrote: > Hi > > Le sam. 27 avr. 2024 à 18:53, Dale a écrit : >> Howdy, >> >> I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. > I was wondering how old this box could be and if it had a BIOS with > UEFI and GPT. > > I didn't find a precise date for BIOS, but Wikipedia[1] shows that the >

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 03:29:09 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 23:30:46 BST Dale wrote: [snip ...] > >> Anyone ever seen this? Searching didn't help. This is a new kernel so > >> maybe I missed something in there? > > > > Yes, most likely. > > > > What does

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 28 April 2024 06:24:09 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: [snip ...] > >> I did some research but still find myself in some muddy > >> waters. My take on some things I've read, I need a boot partition, not > >> to be confused with

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-28 Thread Mickaël Bucas
Hi Le sam. 27 avr. 2024 à 18:53, Dale a écrit : > Howdy, > > I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. I was wondering how old this box could be and if it had a BIOS with UEFI and GPT. I didn't find a precise date for BIOS, but Wikipedia[1] shows that the first version of Windows for x64 that

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like to >> use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, >> regardless of size. > GPT is the partition table structure, which is

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-27 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Saturday, 27 April 2024 23:30:46 BST Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I finally got Gentoo on the old rig I had laying around. This is not >> the one I usually refer to as NAS box. I named this one NAS2. LOL I >> got one problem that is confusing me. I've compared it to my main

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-27 Thread Daniel Frey
On 4/27/24 15:30, Dale wrote: Howdy, I finally got Gentoo on the old rig I had laying around.  This is not the one I usually refer to as NAS box.  I named this one NAS2.  LOL  I got one problem that is confusing me.  I've compared it to my main rig and the install guide and I think I got

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-27 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 27 April 2024 23:30:46 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I finally got Gentoo on the old rig I had laying around. This is not > the one I usually refer to as NAS box. I named this one NAS2. LOL I > got one problem that is confusing me. I've compared it to my main rig > and the

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcp error. No network. Address family not supported.

2024-04-27 Thread Daniel Frey
On 4/27/24 15:30, Dale wrote: Howdy, I finally got Gentoo on the old rig I had laying around.  This is not the one I usually refer to as NAS box.  I named this one NAS2.  LOL  I got one problem that is confusing me.  I've compared it to my main rig and the install guide and I think I got

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Wols Lists
On 27/04/2024 17:53, Dale wrote: Howdy, I'm installing Gentoo on another old box.  To be consistent I like to use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, regardless of size.  Thing is, Grub works differently with GPT than it does with the old DOS or whatever it is called,

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Michael
On Saturday, 27 April 2024 17:53:25 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like to > use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, > regardless of size. GPT is the partition table structure, which is more advanced than the

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 9:53 AM Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > I'm installing Gentoo on another old box. To be consistent I like to > use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, > regardless of size. Thing is, Grub works differently with GPT than it > does with the old DOS or

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub, gpt partitions and BIOS, not uefi thing.

2024-04-27 Thread Wojciech Kuzyszyn
On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 11:53:25 -0500 Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm installing Gentoo on another old box.  To be consistent I like to > use cgdisk, GPT I think it is called, to partition all my drives, > regardless of size.  Thing is, Grub works differently with GPT than it > does with the old DOS

Re: [gentoo-user] Hibernation without initramfs

2024-04-26 Thread Michael
On Friday, 26 April 2024 10:23:28 BST Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 09:40:54 +0100 > > Michael wrote: > > [*] Hibernation (aka 'suspend to disk') > > [*] Userspace snapshot device > > (/dev/sdb6)Default resume partition > > My swap partition is /dev/nvme0n1p2 - this would

Re: [gentoo-user] Hibernation without initramfs

2024-04-26 Thread Wojciech Kuzyszyn
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 09:40:54 +0100 Michael wrote: > [*] Hibernation (aka 'suspend to disk') > [*] Userspace snapshot device > (/dev/sdb6)Default resume partition My swap partition is /dev/nvme0n1p2 - this would work I assume, right? > However, if you are using RAM heavily when you try

Re: [gentoo-user] Hibernation without initramfs

2024-04-26 Thread Michael
On Thursday, 25 April 2024 22:29:01 BST Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > Hello! > > Quick question: is it possible to use hibernation (suspend to disk) > with no initramfs? Yes. > I don't have one and don't want to have one. So I'd > rather disable hibernate in kernel (so I won't do this by accident)

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-22 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > Hi Dale, > > On Sunday, 21 April 2024 03:32:32 BST Dale wrote: > >> OK. I did my weekend OS updates on my main rig, fireball. That >> involves me switching to boot runlevel and back again. When the network >> started, no message about going to default. It just showed it

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-22 Thread Michael
On Sunday, 21 April 2024 20:36:56 BST J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday, 19 April 2024 16:05:47 CEST Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > > I'm playing around with my NAS box again. I ran into a network issue. > > I sorta forgot I unplugged the network cable so obviously, it made it > > difficult to ssh

Re: SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 21 April 2024 23:30:54 BST Wol wrote: > On 19/04/2024 17:02, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > Just reporting back. > > > > I built a new system - using NetworkManager (after all I've said about > > it!) - now that it's so much quicker using binpkgs. > > > > It all went fairly smoothly,

Re: SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-21 Thread Wol
On 19/04/2024 17:02, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:23:31 BST I wrote: Just reporting back. I built a new system - using NetworkManager (after all I've said about it!) - now that it's so much quicker using binpkgs. It all went fairly smoothly, taking one step at a time

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, 19 April 2024 16:05:47 CEST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm playing around with my NAS box again. I ran into a network issue. > I sorta forgot I unplugged the network cable so obviously, it made it > difficult to ssh into the thing from my main rig. After hooking up a > monitor and

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-21 Thread Michael
Hi Dale, On Sunday, 21 April 2024 03:32:32 BST Dale wrote: > OK. I did my weekend OS updates on my main rig, fireball. That > involves me switching to boot runlevel and back again. When the network > started, no message about going to default. It just showed it starting > up and using DHCP.

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-20 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday, 19 April 2024 18:04:57 BST Dale wrote: > >> I'm missing something. > I don't think you are. Shutdown your main rig. Pull the ethernet cable. > Reboot. If the main rig's config is the same as the old rig, > > AND > > the router addressing is analogous on both PCs, >

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Michael
On Friday, 19 April 2024 18:04:57 BST Dale wrote: > I'm missing something. I don't think you are. Shutdown your main rig. Pull the ethernet cable. Reboot. If the main rig's config is the same as the old rig, AND the router addressing is analogous on both PCs, THEN their behaviour and

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday, 19 April 2024 17:20:44 BST Dale wrote: >> Matt Connell wrote: >>> On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 09:05 -0500, Dale wrote: Basically, I want to be able to start/stop/restart enp3s0 as a service and have it in a runlevel. >>> You should just need to create a symlink at

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Matt Connell
On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 17:34 +0100, Michael wrote: > Configure static IP addresses for all your LAN devices on your home > router.  Then set your devices to use DHCP to obtain an address from > the router when they come up.  With a large number of devices which > often change (e.g. guests in a

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Michael
On Friday, 19 April 2024 17:20:44 BST Dale wrote: > Matt Connell wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 09:05 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> Basically, I want to be able to start/stop/restart enp3s0 as a > >> service and have it in a runlevel. > > > > You should just need to create a symlink at

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Michael
On Friday, 19 April 2024 17:26:43 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Friday, 19 April 2024 15:05:47 BST Dale wrote: > >> Anyway, while investigating this, I realized the network setup is not > >> like on my old rig. Heck, I couldn't even figure out how to restart it > >> other than switching

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Friday, 19 April 2024 15:05:47 BST Dale wrote: > >> Anyway, while investigating this, I realized the network setup is not >> like on my old rig. Heck, I couldn't even figure out how to restart it >> other than switching to the boot runlevel and back to default, or >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Dale
Matt Connell wrote: > On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 09:05 -0500, Dale wrote: >> Basically, I want to be able to start/stop/restart enp3s0 as a >> service and have it in a runlevel.  > You should just need to create a symlink at /etc/init.d/net.enp3s0 that > points to /etc/init.d/net.lo and then you can do

SOLVED: Re: [gentoo-user] Getting WiFi to work

2024-04-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 9 April 2024 14:23:31 BST I wrote: > I want to move my Intel i5 NUC box to a place where Ethernet is not > available, nor like to become so. That means I have to get WiFi working, > but I've had no success so far. The wiki pages are many, confusing and > contradictory, so I'd like the

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Michael
On Friday, 19 April 2024 15:05:47 BST Dale wrote: > Anyway, while investigating this, I realized the network setup is not > like on my old rig. Heck, I couldn't even figure out how to restart it > other than switching to the boot runlevel and back to default, or > rebooting. After a bit, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook and question about manual network setup

2024-04-19 Thread Matt Connell
On Fri, 2024-04-19 at 09:05 -0500, Dale wrote: > Basically, I want to be able to start/stop/restart enp3s0 as a > service and have it in a runlevel.  You should just need to create a symlink at /etc/init.d/net.enp3s0 that points to /etc/init.d/net.lo and then you can do the usual rc-service stuff

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-18 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 07:26:30AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. >>> I'd add to this, you could still play many games, especially older games >>> using >>> a modern APU. The integrated graphics

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-18 Thread Mike Civil
On 18/04/2024 13:26, Dale wrote: The biggest reason I like a separate video card, I can upgrade if needed.  Built in video means a new mobo. Having a motherboard that supports an apu doesn't preclude adding a separate graphics card later if required (viz a lot of laptops that come so

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 07:26:30AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. > > I'd add to this, you could still play many games, especially older games > > using > > a modern APU. The integrated graphics capability is broadly comparable > >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-18 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 23:13:40 BST Dale wrote: >> Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >>> Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: > If you don't play games, then definitely get

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-18 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 23:13:40 BST Dale wrote: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > >>> Rich Freeman wrote: > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-17, Dale wrote: > >> I still use Nvidia and use nvidia drivers.  I to run into problems >> on occasion with drivers and kernels.  When you switched from >> Nvidia, what did you switch too? Do you still use drivers you >> install or kernel drivers? > All in-tree

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: >> On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: >>> Rich Freeman wrote: >>> All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: >> Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs >>> do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't >>> do anything if this is lacking, and you would need a

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Meik Frischke wrote: > Am 2024-04-17 12:33, schrieb Dale: >> I found a benchmark website that compares the two.  Link below.  It >> claims about 80% faster.  In some ways, twice as fast. Sometimes those >> bench tests don't reflect the real world to well.  Most of them seem to >> test gaming

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 01:18:39PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > > > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs > > > do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > > 2) Lack of support for old hardware when running a newer kernels. > > I used to run into this when running nvidia-drivers. > Gentoo-sources would mark a new kernel stable, but my video board > would not be supported by nvidia-drivers versions that were >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Wols Lists
On 17/04/2024 10:10, Michael wrote: I am not sure the assumption "... aging hardware possibly can less and less cope with newer and newer kernels" is correct. As already mentioned newer kernels have both security and bug fixes. As long as you stick with stable gentoo-sources you'll have these

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Meik Frischke
Am 2024-04-17 12:33, schrieb Dale: I found a benchmark website that compares the two.  Link below.  It claims about 80% faster.  In some ways, twice as fast. Sometimes those bench tests don't reflect the real world to well.  Most of them seem to test gaming speeds which isn't of much use anyway

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs > > do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't > > do anything if this is lacking, and you would need a dedicated GPU. > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote: >> On the AM5 link, I found a mobo that I kinda like. I still wish it had >> more PCIe slots tho. > AM5 has 28 PCIe lanes. Anything above that comes from a switch on the > motherboard. > > 0.1% of the population cares about

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote: > > On the AM5 link, I found a mobo that I kinda like. I still wish it had > more PCIe slots tho. AM5 has 28 PCIe lanes. Anything above that comes from a switch on the motherboard. 0.1% of the population cares about having anything on their

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 17 April 2024 11:37:04 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Grant, > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 19:26:25 -, you wrote: > > ... > > That means that all gentoo-sources stable kernels are "longterm" > > kernel versions on kernel.org. It does not mean that all "longterm" > > kernel versions

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-17 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:29:09 BST Eli Schwartz wrote: [Big snip] Never mind. I've solved the problem by removing sci-misc/boinc and its 40-odd dependencies. The machine was only barely capable of running it anyway. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:04:15AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > >> I've seen some server type mobos that have SAS connectors which gives >> several options.  Some of them tend to have more PCIe slots which some >> regular mobos don't anymore.  Then there is that ECC memory

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-17 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:26:25 BST Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-16, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > Arve, > > > > On Tuesday, 2024-04-16 15:53:48 +0200, you wrote: > >> ... > >> Only LTS kernels get stabilised, so this information is readily > >> available. > > > > I'm sure I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Eli Schwartz
On April 16, 2024 10:44:55 AM EDT, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >This is what I get after this morning's update: > > >Dependency resolution took 16.03 s (backtrack: 0/20). > >[ebuild N ] gui-libs/gtk-4.12.5:4::gentoo USE="X cups gstreamer >introspection wayland (-aqua) -broadway

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-04-16, Arve Barsnes wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok >> wrote: My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS upstream releases. >>> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok > wrote: >>> My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS >>> upstream releases. >> Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just >> looking at the available

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
(Rearranged in chronological order...) On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:08:33 BST Waldo Lemmer wrote: > On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 15:43 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: --->8 > > I'm still mystified by these Gentoo binary packages. I assume that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Jack
On 4/16/24 7:15 AM, Michael wrote: On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more time than it would if you updated often and added all the time

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Waldo Lemmer
If you add --ask --verbose, Portage should tell you why it's falling back to the source package. Does your emerge command include --getbinpkg, or -g? On Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 15:43 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > [Big snip] >

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:43, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I'm still mystified by these Gentoo binary packages. I assume that they're > generated using the default USE flags in the profile version (whence the need > to > specify it in gentoobinhost.conf). > > So why is portage not fetching webkit-gtk

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 16 Apr 2024 at 15:29, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > My understanding is the gentoo-sources kernels are aligned with the LTS > > upstream releases. > > Right, they use the same version numbers. But you can't see from just > looking at the available "gentoo-sources" which one is LTS and

Re: [gentoo-user] Using the new binpkgs

2024-04-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 15 April 2024 12:19:02 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, [Big snip] I'm still mystified by these Gentoo binary packages. I assume that they're generated using the default USE flags in the profile version (whence the need to specify it in gentoobinhost.conf). So why is portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: > >> If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If >> you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more >> time than it would if you updated often and added all the time >> together. As

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 11:55:20 BST Dale wrote: > If you update often, it shouldn't take long answer the questions. If > you do like me and don't update often, it may take longer but no more > time than it would if you updated often and added all the time > together. As far as I know, if one

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Dale
Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > >> ... >> Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? > Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your > point of saving time which could be better used to successfully

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slightly corrupted file systems when resuming from hibernation

2024-04-16 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 16 April 2024 10:04:43 BST Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Michael, > > On Monday, 2024-04-15 12:48:34 +0100, you wrote: > > ... > > Why have you set your /boot to be mounted at boot? > > Well, I think, I then just followed the Gentoo Handbook. But I see your > point of saving time which

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-15 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 08:04:15AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >>> The physical connector is called M.2. The dimensions of the “sticks” are >>> given in a number such as 2280, meaning 22 mm wide and 80 mm long. There >>> are >>> different lengths available from 30 to 110

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