[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

Dear Alan, I don't think it's so ridiculous. There is a lot of agreement about the seriousness of the situation, and that just reducing emissions is not the whole solution. Kind regards, John Alan Robock wrote: > Dear John, > > Don't be ridiculous. There is no consensus among readers of

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

Alan, I would not want to be alligned with any gung-ho brigade, but I do think it is foolish to emphasize the risks of geoengineering to the neglect of the risks of relying solely on emissions reductions. I think selected technologies that pass the test of scale, of reversibility, of timelines

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

Alan's point, I believe, is that the geoengineering "group" is a listserv, not an organization. Hence a call for a manifesto should make clear that any such document would not be issued on behalf of the geoengineerin "group" but rather on behalf of those who sign it. References to the geoengin

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

Peter, well done. Emission reduction is not a slam dunk and even if it goes through the hoop the whistle could blow and the points won't count. And as you know my position is that history shows the globe is getting hotter in any case; and the history should not be ignored. Geo will be ultimately n

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Alan Robock wrote: > > There is no consensus among readers of this group. > A few of you are completely gung ho, with no interest in evaluating the > risks as well as the benefits of any policy recommendation, but that > does not represent the views of very many.

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

Most of what is being expressed here is supposedly reasonable caution, which it is not, because you ignore that fact that geoengineering very likely will be needed come what may, and reasonable funding will change the activity from discussion to active research, which is sorely needed. By knocking

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

Hawkins is correct, as far as geoengineering being no more than a listserv. Alan's points, however, go well beyond the listserv issue. Alan continues to fail to characterize risks associated with geoengineering in the context of not doing anything other than carbon emission reduction. d. On Wed

[geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Eugene I. Gordon wrote: > people who are bent on emission reductions as the solution, and who ignore > history. > Emission reductions will have to be part of the solution. Unless I missed something, I don't think anyone here is in the position to advocate that g

[geo] SciCitizen on Royal Society Report

I was not expecting my email response to be published verbatim, but here it is: http://scitizen.com/stories/climate-change/2009/09/Geoengineering-the-climate--science-governance-and-uncertainty/ Geoengineering the climate : science, governance and uncertainty 23 Sep, 2009 03:17 pm *Earlier this

[geo] hard copies of Royal Societ report available to people in the United States

Folks, I have 30+ hard copies of the Royal Society report on geoengineering available to distribute. If you live in the US and would like a hard copy, you can request 1 or 2 from my adminstrative assistant, Linda Longoria. If you are interested, please email Linda at requesting 1 or 2 copies an

For info Fw: [geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

- Original Message - From: Leslie Field To: Peter Read Cc: Leslie Field Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering Hi Peter, My email reply to you didn't post to the google group, as I'm not a member. Not sure that's an action it

[geo] Ice911

I wasn't aware of ICE911 as it hasn't been discussed before in the many discussions of geoengineering that have occurred in the last several years. The concept is rather vaguely described at the website: http://www.ice911.org/Ice911%20Update%20072109.pdf and appears to involve the use of plas

[geo] Discussion on jet-fuel-additive

What effects do sulfuric acid and silica have on the atmosphere and the weather. If I remember correctly sulfuric acid will cause the ozone hole to enlarge. That's a bad idea since scientists and the EPA have worked for years to restore the ozone layer and this is the first year we have seen succ

[geo] enough geoengineering. we just have to engineer ourselves...

For those, like me, who need a break amid the recent burst of news on climate front, please watch this video and report back if you don't chuckle: http://j.mp/dotBall -- Andrew C. Revkin The New York Times / Environment 620 Eighth Ave., NY, NY 10018 Tel: 212-556-7326 Mob: 914-441-5556 Fax: 5

[geo] Question.

what exactly is geoengineering? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "geoengineering" group. To post to this group, send email to geoengineering@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email

[geo] Bogus names

Dear Group, I would like see the real names attached to each post associated with this group. I think it fair to know who is contributing to the discussions here. Sincerley, Oliver Wingenter --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscri

[geo] Re: Question.

"defined as the deliberate large scale intervention in the Earth's climate system, in order to moderate global warming" (Royal Society Policy Document 10/09, para 3) visit http://royalsociety.org/displaypagedoc.asp?id=35151 - Original Message - From: "Frank Parry" To: "geoengineering"

[geo] Re: Bogus names

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Oliver Wingenter < oliver.wingen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would like see the real names attached to each post associated with this > group. I think it fair to know who is contributing to the discussions here. > > On Green-India

[geo] Re: Question.

Sounds interesting! I am looking forward to finding out more information On Sep 23, 11:09 pm, "Peter Read" wrote: > "defined as the deliberate large scale intervention in the Earth's climate > system, in order to moderate global warming" (Royal Society Policy Document > 10/09, para 3) > visithtt

[geo] Re: Question.

read the download. but note that it is misleading regarding the risks associated with biochar technology and ocean cloud albedo enhancement - Original Message - From: "Frank Parry" To: "geoengineering" Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:32 PM Subject: [geo] Re: Question. Sounds i

Re: For info Fw: [geo] Re: Manifesto for Geoengineering

has anyone managed to understand what their actual method is to restore the ice? john gorman - Original Message - From: Peter Read To: Geoengineering@googlegroups.com Cc: Leslie Field Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:00 PM Subject: For info Fw: [geo] Re: Manifesto for