On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote:
> I would just like to point out that *nothing* I was trying to do would
> have prevented anyone from viewing the page on what ever their choice of
> browser was. All I wanted was several buttons of uniform length ...
"Browser independence" means more th
n I want to keep a site's overall look the same even if someone
chooses not to view frames.
-Larry
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In a message dated: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 10:45:40 EST
"Tilly, Lawrence" said:
> Haven't you seen the commercials...they can now be "up for DAYS"
>without needing attention. :-)
Not only that, but the server doesn't even get lonely :)
> BTW, I agree fully with the posts concerning brows
> -Original Message-
> From: Benjamin Scott [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 9:16 AM
> To: Greater New Hampshire Linux Users
> Subject: Re: Stupid HTML Tricks (or I hate HTML :)
>
> My goal was not *just* to be an ar
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote:
> Now why couldn't you have suggested this the other day? This is a decent
> solution I can live with :)
I thought I mentioned something about using graphics for the buttons...
Hmmm, looking back, I stated it poorly; the phrase "dynamically-generated"
In a message dated: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:49:43 EST
"Kenneth E. Lussier" said:
>You didn't *ASK* for alternatives, you asked for a specific means to a
>specific end.
While that is true, Ben could have opted to provide me with other useful
alternatives rather than begin lecturing and pontificating
You didn't *ASK* for alternatives, you asked for a specific means to a
specific end. Next time, be more generic, would ya? ;-)
Kenny
Paul Lussier wrote:
>
> In a message dated: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:27:55 EST
> Benjamin Scott said:
>
> > My recommendation would be to put the text as plain old t
In a message dated: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:27:55 EST
Benjamin Scott said:
> My recommendation would be to put the text as plain old text in the table,
>with a generic graphic icon for the button next to it. Most web sites do it
>this way. Now you know why. :-)
Now why couldn't you have suggeste
On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote:
> Could you describe where the '' tags would go?
In practical terms, there is no real consistancy across browsers, OSes, and
versions thereof as to how table formatting is handled. Some things will work
some way, others, other ways.
If you are determi
On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote:
> This is all done within a perl CGI program. But it doesn't seem to be a perl
> problem, since I can't even figure out how to create the static HTML code
> to accomplish this task.
>
> Anyone have any ideas?
>
Use CSS to define how the buttons should l
On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:00:29PM -0500, Benjamin Scott wrote:
> The world should stop trying to make web pages look the same everywhere they
> display. HTML is designed to allow the *user* to control the presentation of
> hypertext marked up by the author. Web pages are *supposed* to look d
On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:19:46PM -0500, Tom Rauschenbach wrote:
>Oh I agree with this so much it makes me angry that this ever comes up.
>A well crafted HTML document could be correctly rendered with a text to
>speech engine for example, with no loss of information. An emphasis tag
>could jus
On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:03:03PM -0500, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
> Put the button text inside '' or some other monospacing
> element. The text will not be as pretty, but oh well.. You
> could probably play games with styles and typefaces to specify
> a monospaced typeface that is more t
On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Derek Martin wrote:
>> HTML is not a display-specification language, it is a data-markup language.
>
> Well, that's a nice thought, but the reality is that's how it's used
> nowadays.
I think it would be better to say, "That is how people *try* to use it
nowadays." General
Today, Benjamin Scott gleaned this insight:
> On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote:
> > - I want the FSCK'ing buttons to be all the same length :)
>
> HTML is not a display-specification language, it is a data-markup language.
Well, that's a nice thought, but the reality is that's how i
On Mon, 05 Mar 2001, Benjamin Scott wrote:
[snip]
> The world should stop trying to make web pages look the same everywhere they
> display. HTML is designed to allow the *user* to control the presentation of
> hypertext marked up by the author. Web pages are *supposed* to look different
> depe
On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote:
> - I want the FSCK'ing buttons to be all the same length :)
HTML is not a display-specification language, it is a data-markup language.
CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) will, in theory, solve this problem for us, but
uniform, correct implementation
Paul Lussier wrote:
>
> However, HTML has decided that the characters in the button text
> are of a variable width font.
Put the button text inside '' or some other monospacing
element. The text will not be as pretty, but oh well.. You
could probably play games with styles and typefaces to spe
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