Re: Salvaging a CD

"James R. Van Zandt" wrote: > Benjamin Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The standard grandfather/father/son > rotation keeps nineteen copies of your data at any given time. > > I count 3 copies. Obviously I'm missing something. Would you expand > on this a bit, or provide a pointer? Refer t

Re: Salvaging a CD

Benjamin Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Yrgh, backups of yer backups.. {sigh} > > Those aren't a bad idea, either. The standard grandfather/father/son >rotation keeps nineteen copies of your data at any given time. I count 3 copies. Obviously I'm missing something. Would you expand on

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

In a message dated: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 19:25:24 EST Benjamin Scott said: > The VXAs look very nice, although I haven't tried them myself. My only >worry with them is the single-source, semi-proprietary nature of the >technology. If Ecrix is the only one with the keys to VXA, and they go away >(o

RE: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Matthew J. Brodeur wrote: > I'm new to this list (about two hours), but I feel the need to start a bit > of a holy war. Go right ahead. It has been a long time since we have had one, and my attempt at a Linux-distro flamewar a couple weeks ago fizzled. :-) > What would p

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Paul Lussier wrote: > I've priced this config out for: > > Arkeia $5,000 > QuickRestore $11,000 > > Though hardware costs a lot, so does quality software! Has anyone else here tried NovaNET, from NovaStor? http://www.novastor.com Their pr

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

In a message dated: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 18:35:32 EST Tom Rauschenbach said: >This post raises a significant issue that needs to be mentioned >explicitly. Some things cannot be backed up without special tools. As I mentioned before, anyone who needs to perform complicated backups in a complicated

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Paul Lussier wrote: >>> ... doesn't entail a capital cost of thousands like DLT or AIT would. >> >> DLT and AIT drives are rather overpriced, unfortunately. :-( > > For large environments where you have a limited window for backups and a > significant amount of data to bac

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Paul Lussier wrote: > In a message dated: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:55:05 EST > Benjamin Scott said: > > >> ... doesn't entail a capital cost of thousands like DLT or AIT would. > > > > DLT and AIT drives are rather overpriced, unfortunately. :-( > > For large environments where

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

In a message dated: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 17:55:05 EST Benjamin Scott said: >> ... doesn't entail a capital cost of thousands like DLT or AIT would. > > DLT and AIT drives are rather overpriced, unfortunately. :-( For large environments where you have a limited window for backups and a significant

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, John Abreau wrote: > I believe you can the 100-disk spindles of CDR for under $40 now, which > brings the cost down to about 65 cents per gigabyte. And I can get DLT-IV tapes for $40, too. As long as I order from Joe's House of Media ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and buy Yoyodyne br

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

In a message dated: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:05:11 EST "Matthew J. Brodeur" said: > What would people suggest for a reasonable cost backup solution on a >small network with a total of around 50GB of data? Most of the data is >static, so incremental backups would be small. I'm more concerned with >d

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

In a message dated: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:25:46 EST Benjamin Scott said: > U... I can't find the numbers I thought I found before, so I likely >either (1) misread PC Conn's listing or (2) miskeyed some numbers. The >cheapest I see right now on PC Conn is $60 per 40 GB tape, or $1.50 per GB.

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Benjamin Scott wrote: > Here is a quick chart, based on five minutes of research at PC Connection's > website, of media cost, in dollars per gigabyte: > > Media GB $/GB > -- - -- > > CR-R 0.651.41 > I believe you can the 100-disk spindles

RE: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Benjamin Scott wrote: > However, for even the smallest of business networks, the media size is far > too small to be considered for serious use. You need sixteen (!) CDs to > match even one 10 GB Travan-5 tape, and those are some of the smallest tapes > around. (Unless yo

RE: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Tilly, Lawrence wrote: > But look at it from the perspective of a private, or even SOHO user. For strict home/personal use, doing manual backups of selected data files, I will agree with that statement. However, for even the smallest of business networks, the media size

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Paul Lussier wrote: > Where are you getting DLT IV tapes for $35 a piece? I'm not getting them at all. :-) Some of our customers are, but through our regular suppliers, which do not include PC Connection. Call our sales department for our pricing. (Toll free, limited ti

RE: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 11:32 AM > To: Greater New Hampshire Linux Users > Subject: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD) > > On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Bill Freeman wrote: > > Given that the cost of CD-R media, unlike any form of reliable tape that > &

Re: Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

In a message dated: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:31:41 EST Benjamin Scott said: > Here is a quick chart, based on five minutes of research at PC Connection's >website, of media cost, in dollars per gigabyte: > >Media GB $/GB >-- - -- >DLT IV 35 1.03 Where are you getting DLT IV

Backup media costs (was: Salvaging a CD)

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Bill Freeman wrote: > Given that the cost of CD-R media, unlike any form of reliable tape that > I've ever used, is in the noise compared to the value of your time when > doing backups ... Here is a quick chart, based on five minutes of research at PC Connection's website,

Re: Salvaging a CD

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: >> Time for a public service message: Remember, kiddies, backups >> are your friends. > > What do you think this ^@*&^&*#$%^ CD *was*? Your primary copy. If it was a backup copy, you would have simply created a new backup from your primary.

Re: Salvaging a CD

Rodent of Unusual Size writes about CD failure when ADDING to a backup: > Benjamin Scott wrote: > > > > Time for a public service message: Remember, kiddies, backups > > are your friends. > > What do you think this ^@*&^&*#$%^ CD *was*? Yrgh, backups of > yer backups.. {sigh} Gi

Re: Salvaging a CD

Benjamin Scott wrote: > > Time for a public service message: Remember, kiddies, backups > are your friends. What do you think this ^@*&^&*#$%^ CD *was*? Yrgh, backups of yer backups.. {sigh} Thanks for the suggestions! -- #kenP-)} Ken Coar Apac

Re: Salvaging a CD

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Even though Easy CD Creator (don't ask!) said the CD was created > successfully, I can't read it now. If the drive did not finish recording correctly, the TOC (Table of Contents) for the disc will be corrupted. I am not sure you can do much

Salvaging a CD

{sigh} One of the things that always worries me when adding to a CD. I've got about 350MB of gzipped log files on a CD, 12 files total. Yesterday I tried adding three more, and there was a glitch in the transfer rate. Even though Easy CD Creator (don't ask!) said the CD was created successfull