On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 16:46 -0400, jordan wrote:
On this point, is there such a distinction for gnome-shell? I'd love
to be able to distinguish between devel and user discussions in my
mail client...
Actually, the #gnome-shell IRC channel and Bugzilla play the role of a
development list,
Do no one in particular: thread is closed.
Discussion is going nowhere in particular and several requests have been
made to make the mailing list a bit more productive. Don't forget that
every mail you sent to this list is read by 570 people; please no
endless discussions.
--
Regards,
Olav
Le lundi 23 mai 2011 à 12:24 +1000, Tim Cuthbertson a écrit :
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Adam Tauno Williams
awill...@whitemice.org wrote:
Why? This is normal. Most projects have -devel lists / forums and user
lists / forums.
On this point, is there such a distinction for
On this point, is there such a distinction for gnome-shell? I'd love
to be able to distinguish between devel and user discussions in my
mail client...
Actually, the #gnome-shell IRC channel and Bugzilla play the role of a
development list, so very few discussions between core developers
On 22 May 2011 04:25, Ryan Peters slosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
On 05/21/2011 12:42 PM, Tim Murphy wrote:
The *only* potentially good reason I've heard for, say, wanting a window
list, is that some users like using the mouse and don't want to have to use
the keyboard. In some (not all) cases
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 12:27 +0100, Tim Murphy wrote:
On 22 May 2011 04:25, Ryan Peters slosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
On 05/21/2011 12:42 PM, Tim Murphy wrote:
The *only* potentially good reason I've heard for, say, wanting a
window list, is that some users like using the mouse and don't want
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 06:27, Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com wrote:
It's extremely difficult to discuss anything if you think things are the
user's fault in user interfaces.
To make it absolutely crystal clear; you haven't been speaking to
anyone who represents GNOME in any way. The
Em Dom, 2011-05-22 às 13:58 -0400, jordan escreveu:
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com
wrote:
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 06:27, Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com wrote:
It's extremely difficult to discuss anything if you think things are the
user's fault in
Hi Ryan,
I hoped that it stopped a long time ago; this thread it just going in
circles, as I said. Person A comes in and complains GNOME is unusable,
Person B that may or may not represent GNOME (as I don't, to be honest)
comes in and says suggestions and clarifies the design, and then Person
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 15:18 -0400, jordan wrote:
thanks Evandro,
1. WOW! ~ that is not a good sign.
- This is me saying that i am surprised that more gnome-developers
don't follow the list. - nothing more... :)
Why? This is normal. Most projects have -devel lists / forums and user
lists /
Hi Adam,
1. WOW! ~ that is not a good sign.
- This is me saying that i am surprised that more gnome-developers
don't follow the list. - nothing more... :)
Why? This is normal. Most projects have -devel lists / forums and user
lists / forums.
As Ryan pointed out, there has been so much
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 15:18 -0400, jordan wrote:
thanks Evandro,
1. WOW! ~ that is not a good sign.
- This is me saying that i am surprised that more gnome-developers
don't follow the list. - nothing more... :)
Why? This is normal. Most projects have -devel lists / forums and user
lists /
On 19 May 2011 05:01, Ryan Peters slosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
On 05/18/2011 09:47 PM, Tim Murphy wrote:
On 17 May 2011 20:55, Ryan Peters slosh...@sbcglobal.net mailto:
slosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I've had to acclimatise to all sorts of horrible interfaces
after using
On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 18:42 +0100, Tim Murphy wrote:
No, design new stuff as much as you want - just:
1) Don't think you're right and they're wrong
2) Shove it down their throats and expect a thank you from all of them
I find it funny that it's apparently considered shoving things down
users
On 05/21/2011 12:42 PM, Tim Murphy wrote:
On 19 May 2011 05:01, Ryan Peters slosh...@sbcglobal.net
mailto:slosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I'm sure that the development and design team would love to hear
some specific examples of how GNOME 3 is a regression. I've heard
a few
On Thursday, 19 May, 2011 03:54 AM, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
Also, the critics saying that GNOME Shell is one size fits all must
have never looked at the extensions or third-party programs yet. There
are already places menus, drive menus, alternative status menus, docks,
launchers on the panel,
On 17 May 2011 20:55, Ryan Peters slosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I've had to acclimatise to all sorts of horrible interfaces after using
better ones e.g. to Windows after Linux and you can get used to almost
anything. I can even get to the point where it's difficult to get back
into the
On 05/18/2011 08:00 PM, Allan E. Registos(x-mail) wrote:
On Thursday, 19 May, 2011 03:54 AM, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
Also, the critics saying that GNOME Shell is one size fits all must
have never looked at the extensions or third-party programs yet. There
are already places menus, drive menus,
On 05/18/2011 02:54 PM, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 09:40:09 -0500, you wrote:
Because your blog won't let me directly comment for some reason (maybe
it's an add-on), I'm responding here:
I'm very glad that you gave GNOME 3 a chance! It's a well-known fact
around here that
On 05/18/2011 09:47 PM, Tim Murphy wrote:
On 17 May 2011 20:55, Ryan Peters slosh...@sbcglobal.net
mailto:slosh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
I've had to acclimatise to all sorts of horrible interfaces
after using better ones e.g. to Windows after Linux and you
can get
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:55 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote:
...
It gives the impression the the core team has not answered (which of
course is not the case) or does not care about what *we* think (we
being the existing user-base and
On 05/17/2011 08:18 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:55 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote:
...
It gives the impression the the core team has not answered (which of
course is not the case) or does not care about what
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 09:40 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote:
On 05/17/2011 08:18 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:55 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote:
...
It gives the impression the the core team has not answered
First of all, I'd like to ask you to respond to the mailing list please.
Add gnome-shell-list@gnome.org to the list of recipients of your
emails so all of us, not just me, can get them. This is the second time
you've done this so far, so I thought I'd let you know.
On 05/17/2011 10:46 AM, Tim
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:26 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
This is a perfect example of why people should feel comfortable using
suspend-to-RAM on Linux. And that's why we made it the default if the
kernel tells us that your laptop hardware is known to suspend
successfully.
For the record,
What we're really talking about now is batch launching, so there were
better solutions in gnome 2 and there are better solutions in gnome
shell
1) install alacarte if you haven't
2) open alacarte and click new item
3) create a launcher with name e.g. Work Batch
4) write the command e.g. as: su -c
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Elia Cogodi elia.cog...@gmail.com wrote:
What we're really talking about now is batch launching, so there were
better solutions in gnome 2 and there are better solutions in gnome
shell
1) install alacarte if you haven't
2) open alacarte and click new item
3)
I think that you have pretty much ignored the solution offered by another
poster of using the click and drag method. I didn't even know that this was
possible until I read the post, but it seems to be very nearly as fast as
four clicks, especially if you're using a mouse.
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at
When I have a problem with something, my common first step is to use google.
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-April/thread.html
Justin Edwards
Telelanguage Inc
Network Manager
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05
He also said he ran KDE at home and was happy with that.
Here's a solution to your problem. yum install @kde-desktop
People really can help make change if they want to be beneficial. Creating
extensions / patches is not magic or asking too much. If you really feel so
passionately about the
Am Freitag, den 06.05.2011, 22:51 +0200 schrieb Denys Vlasenko:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:25 +0200, David Prieto wrote:
Denys,
Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do
this
weekend. I have some other work to do.
You do realize that
On 05/07/2011 01:13 AM, Allan E. Registos wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:26 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
This is a perfect example of why people should feel comfortable using
suspend-to-RAM on Linux. And that's why we made it the default if the
kernel tells us that your laptop hardware is
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 22:12 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote:
Nice help page. Just having a look at it for the first time. Ummm
wonder if that's bad... Using Gnome-Shell for over a month now and
only now noticing the help pages...
Fantastic; I didn't know it had help pages either [although I
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:26 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:03 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote:
When F15 is release we should put this DL on auto-reply.
So many of
Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 13:37 +0200, Denys Vlasenko a écrit :
I don't like disruptive innovation when it is not presented as an
option, but showed down my throat by force.
Tell me, how the particular bit of innovation which removed the
possibility to have app launch icons in top panes is
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:20 +0800, Allan E. Registos wrote:
Adam:
Does your GNOME Shell environment provides a Welcome to Your New
Desktop kind of thing and then points to gnome3.org for tutorial
videos?
No. I don't recall a splash screen.
I am just responding to a post that suggests a
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:51 +0200, Milan Bouchet-Valat wrote:
Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 13:37 +0200, Denys Vlasenko a écrit :
I don't like disruptive innovation when it is not presented as an
option, but showed down my throat by force.
Tell me, how the particular bit of innovation which
Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 14:06 +0200, Denys Vlasenko a écrit :
Fallback mode *is* going to die in one of the next releases.
At least that's the stated plan.
Pointers?
I don't remember hearing anybody saying the panel would die, and now
that it's got rid of all deprecated dependencies, there's
I was wondering about the Alt+[key above Tab, usually `], i read
about
it, but it doesnt work here (german keyboard german language setting,
self compiled shell on ubuntu natty).
Same here (german language, Natty, Gnome Shell from PPA).
However you can still navigate between multiple
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 02:06:07PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Fallback mode *is* going to die in one of the next releases.
Regarding fallback mode:
- there's no promise as to active development
- but it should still run fine and at least critical bugs should get fixed
- no plan to remove it
Yeah perfect, thnx it was deactivated! (alt + [key above tab])
now this works like a charm !
2011/5/6 Aurélien Naldi aurelien.na...@gmail.com
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Marc Fouquet marc.fouq...@gmx.de wrote:
I was wondering about the Alt+[key above Tab, usually `], i read
about
On 05/06/2011 06:37 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 17:36 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote:
Somebody needs to take this thread out back behind the shed and put a
bullet through it's head for the good of humanity, so I volunteer to do so.
Denys, GNOME 3 is a radical change and you have
I've been taskbar free for 4 years. I use workspaces wisely and would never
want any taskbar ever again. People really need to hold their tongue if
they have something bad to say and had to subscribe to a list that many
people are on and have talked about issues for years.
If you don't like it,
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 18:00 -0500, Justin Edwards wrote:
I've been taskbar free for 4 years. I use workspaces wisely and would
never want any taskbar ever again. People really need to hold their
tongue if they have something bad to say and had to subscribe to a
list that many people are on
Denys,
Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do this
weekend. I have some other work to do.
You do realize that you've spent more time complaining on the ML than it
would have taken you to learn the new UI, right?
It certainly doesn't look like you have other work to do.
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
I never said it was. If you want a viable, long term choice then I'd
HIGHLY suggest to stop upgrading your Fedora install
How viable for me.
s/How/Not/
___
gnome-shell-list mailing list
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:33 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote:
Expecting GNOME 3 to be the same as every
other OS is unrealistic; GNOME 3 is not a straightforward upgrade from
GNOME 2 and requires re-training. I thought that was understood.
For me, Gnome 3 appears as part of Fedora 13-15 upgrade.
I
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:33 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote:
Expecting GNOME 3 to be the same as every
other OS is unrealistic; GNOME 3 is not a straightforward upgrade from
GNOME 2 and requires re-training. I thought that
On 05/06/2011 11:16 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On my previous installation - Fedora 13 - it was Gnome 2.
I just installed Fedora 15 and it uses Gnome 3. Oops.
Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do this
weekend. I have some other work to do.
If you don't want to learn a
If you don't want to leave the overview you can just drag each app you
want to launch.
It hardly takes longer than clicking, I can probably launch 4 apps in
my dash in about 3 seconds
- hit windows key
- drag icon 1
- drag icon 2
- drag icon 3
- click icon 4
If I'm really organized it will take
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Explaining:
Now I need to move it upwards, then downwards.
If I want to start four apps in a row, which I do every day in the
morning, I can't go up and click-click-click-click, I need to
go up, go down and click,
go up, go down and
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:30 -0400, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:33 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote:
Expecting GNOME 3 to be the same as every
other OS is unrealistic; GNOME 3 is
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 12:37 -0500, Ryan Peters wrote:
On 05/06/2011 11:16 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On my previous installation - Fedora 13 - it was Gnome 2.
I just installed Fedora 15 and it uses Gnome 3. Oops.
Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do this
weekend.
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Explaining:
Now I need to move it upwards, then downwards.
If I want to start four apps in a row, which I do every day in the
morning, I can't go up and
Denys,
If you talk to any group of people (grouped by a practice or philosophy)
and say what their practice is unacceptable. Prepare to be treated in a
way that is unacceptable.
Your language came in a way that was insulting, so people respond
accordingly. If this is your only machine and you
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Explaining:
Now I need to move it upwards, then downwards.
If I want to start four apps in a row, which I
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Explaining:
Now I need to move it upwards, then
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 22:46 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Also for terminal, this is my favorite behavior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilda_(software)
Justin Edwards
Telelanguage Inc
Network Manager
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Adam Tauno Williams
awill...@whitemice.orgwrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 22:46 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Fri,
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:25 +0200, David Prieto wrote:
Denys,
Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do
this
weekend. I have some other work to do.
You do realize
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 15:46, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
Trying.
Alt-F1, click - Expose closes, app #1 launches.
Need to open Expose again, so:
Alt-F1, click - Expose closes, app #2 launches.
Alt-F1, click - Expose closes, app #3 launches.
Alt-F1, click - Expose
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 15:51, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:25 +0200, David Prieto wrote:
Denys,
Having suddenly to learn a new UI is not what I planned to do
this
weekend. I have some other work to do.
You do realize
Another feature i didnt know, and i use gnome for 3 years now !
tnx a lot!
Cheers phil
2011/5/6 Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 22:46 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 21:19 +0200,
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
Trying.
Alt-F1, click - Expose closes, app #1 launches.
Need to open Expose again, so:
Alt-F1, click - Expose closes, app #2 launches.
Alt-F1, click - Expose closes, app #3 launches.
Alt-F1, click - Expose closes, app
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Jason D. Clinton m...@jasonclinton.com wrote:
These four apps are: Firefox, Evolution, Xchat2 and terminal.
I don't want to launch and terminal every time 100% of time.
I do it when I came *to work*. I don't do it at home.
This is a perfect example of why
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 06:10 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
If someone is shocked by GNOME3 or claims they don't know the
reasoning for the changes - they did not take any time at all to go
look
[so not knowing is a rather inevitable condition]. So anyone coming
here [Hey, they found this
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:37 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
In
addition, your claim that GNOME gives users no choice is
incredibly
false: you can enable Forced Fallback mode in System Settings to a
GNOME
2-like UI which is meant for setups that cannot run the new GNOME 3.
Wrong.
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 18:51 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
I never said it was. If you want a viable, long term choice then
I'd
HIGHLY suggest to stop upgrading your Fedora install
How viable for me. How can I develop software for Fedora if I don't
upgrade my Fedora? Developing includes
I just installed F15 (Rawhide). It uses Gnome 3.
I resisted the temptation to switch to Fallback mode, because
quick googling showed me that Fallback mode will be phased out
in not-so-distant future. Therefore I am using the new interface.
My general impression as a user is negative.
A lot of
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
I just installed F15 (Rawhide). It uses Gnome 3.
I resisted the temptation to switch to Fallback mode, because
quick googling showed me that Fallback mode will be phased out
in not-so-distant future. Therefore I am
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 08:30 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com
wrote:
To facilitate a more productive discussion, I will limit my
rants^W feedback to one per email. So, here it goes:
I too was put off by this initially. But, as was mentioned. give it a try
and you may find you don't need it. I typically have a dozen applications
going for work and I have adapted quite quickly. Took me about 4 days. That
being said, I think it would be crazy not to have a good taskbar
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:05 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
Assigning a hot key for the activity view helps [I mapped Windows+Space,
like GNOME-Do used to use] then if I need to I can pop in an out of that
view without using the odd [I still find it odd] gesture/position
scheme.
Just out of
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:03 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote:
When F15 is release we should put this DL on auto-reply. So many of
these I don't like Gnome 3 e-mails and they all end the same way.
Does it ring some sort of bell when you receive 'many I don't like
Gnome 3 e-mails'? The key word
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:22 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:03 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote:
When F15 is release we should put this DL on auto-reply. So many of
these I don't like Gnome 3 e-mails and they all end the same way.
Does it ring some sort of bell when you
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:17 +0200, Florian Müllner wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:05 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
Assigning a hot key for the activity view helps [I mapped Windows+Space,
like GNOME-Do used to use] then if I need to I can pop in an out of that
view without using the
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:25 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:22 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:03 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote:
When F15 is release we should put this DL on auto-reply. So many of
these I don't like Gnome 3 e-mails and
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:26 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:17 +0200, Florian Müllner wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:05 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
Assigning a hot key for the activity view helps [I mapped Windows+Space,
like GNOME-Do used to use] then if
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:22 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
I've seen the lack of a menu come up so many times
What does it tell to a developer when he sees the same complaint
coming up again and again?
That negative reaction to change is common.
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:25 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:22 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:03 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote:
When F15 is release we should put
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:31 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:22 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
I've seen the lack of a menu come up so many times
What does it tell to a developer when he sees the same complaint
coming up again and again?
That negative reaction
Damn it gnome 3 developers. Because of you I'm getting work done faster and
spending less time dicking around with my computer everyday. I know your
thinking oh well we did our job then Well maybe you did it a little too
well. What would have normally taken me all day is getting done in two
hours.
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:31 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:22 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
I've seen the lack of a menu come up so many times
What does it tell to a developer when he sees the same complaint
coming up again and again?
That negative reaction to
Subject: Re: We want task bar back. Pretty please.
From: dvlas...@redhat.com
To: awill...@redhat.com
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 19:47:47 +0200
CC: gnome-shell-list@gnome.org
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:31 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 19:22 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
Is it a policy of Gnome Desktop to shoehorn users into fixed UI style
instead of offering them reasonable choice? What next, hardwired window
title color and size?
--
There is no policy as such. As I said earlier,
I keep doing that... forgetting to hit reply-all, let's try again:
Here's a thought. What about a dialog welcome box for the first users.
(have a check box to go away forever)
Then have links or info on how to use Gnome 3? Maybe a video giving a
quick tutorial? Tips of the day? Then it
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote:
I'll give you a quick answer to that...
When we first switch to GNOME 3, many of us did not realize we were
not upgrading, but switching to a completely new beast. I actually had
to take a day off work to comb the internet learning about
On 5 May 2011 18:55, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote:
I'll give you a quick answer to that...
When we first switch to GNOME 3, many of us did not realize we were
not upgrading, but switching to a completely new beast. I
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote:
I'll give you a quick answer to that...
When we first switch to GNOME 3, many of us did not realize we were
not upgrading, but switching to a completely new beast.
This is ...interesting. Perhaps in new release of busybox I'll switch
dd
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 May 2011 18:55, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:48 -0700, Micah Carrick wrote:
I'll give you a quick answer to that...
When we first switch to GNOME 3, many of us did not
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 10:08 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com
wrote:
Is it a policy of Gnome Desktop to shoehorn users into fixed
UI
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 13:03 -0400, G. Michael Carter wrote:
When F15 is release we should put this DL on auto-reply. So many of
these I don't like Gnome 3 e-mails and they all end the same way.
Does it ring some
On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 20:29 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
I'm a systems administrator I have a ton of windows open, I used to
use the taskbar, and I don' and it's been okay for me. While
something was taken away,
Why something has to be taken away? I mean, unconditionally?
There is a
On 5 May 2011 19:29, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com wrote:
There are hidden negatives too - the linux users in my office, for
example, tried it and gave up or gave it no chance at all - they are
using XFCE or just
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 May 2011 19:29, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com wrote:
There are hidden negatives too - the linux users in my office, for
example, tried
Boy i wish I read my responses more carefully.. my English is generally
better than this :P
sri
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 May 2011 19:29, Sriram Ramkrishna
On 5 May 2011 21:44, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
Boy i wish I read my responses more carefully.. my English is generally
better than this :P
sri
Please don't worry on my account - my fingers tend to write whole
words that my brain did not specify or miss out ones that it did
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Tim Murphy tnmur...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5 May 2011 21:44, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me wrote:
Boy i wish I read my responses more carefully.. my English is generally
better than this :P
sri
Please don't worry on my account - my fingers tend to
Somebody needs to take this thread out back behind the shed and put a
bullet through it's head for the good of humanity, so I volunteer to do so.
Denys, GNOME 3 is a radical change and you have a right to be upset, but
your responses have been rather rude. Asserting that the designers made
On Friday, 06 May, 2011 02:37 AM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
As someone mentioned earlier, there are extensions that can put a
taskbar on your screen or you can use any number of third party apps
like Docky or AWN that can give you similar features. My GNOME 3
setup still runs docky because
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