Re: [GNC] Attaching receipts to expenses voucher

2023-10-22 Thread Chris Jewell
Thanks Michael, that's very helpful for my understanding! Chris On Sat, 21 Oct 2023, 23:17 Michael or Penny Novack, < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > Yeah, I tried that, but in the Employee -> New expenses voucher -> Edit > > Expense Voucher list, right-clicking on the Description block

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
Sorry, but this isn't really a gnucash question. By which I mean if you knew how to do this (by the standards of your jurisdiction) were the books being kept the old fashioned way, pen and ink on paper, you would have little difficulty doing it with the books being kept using gnucash. The "ret

Re: [GNC] scheduled transactions: simple or compound interest calculations in

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I could be misunderstanding the desired goal. Do you want the interest portion to be calculated on the immediate deposit or on the entire account balance? If the immediate deposit, you would simply add a split for the interest and indicate the amount. (since it is fixed, the rate is irrelevan

Re: [GNC] Having issues with gsettings, dconf, gsettings-dconf-backend and GnuCash

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Considering the timing of the GnuCash release and the Ubuntu 23.10 release, your build issues are likely due to dependency hell. I've had a few frustrating build sessions where GnuCash needed an ever so slightly older version of a library that wasn't in the new repos. (and this cascaded to some

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
The GnuCash workflow doesn't include 'closing the books'. That function was added by request, but it is entirely optional. Following up from Michael's answer, I'll ask: Why do you want to close the books? Habit? GnuCash is designed to not need to. You can happily just keep plodding along unt

Re: [GNC] Attaching receipts to expenses voucher

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Chris, For Vouchers, Invoices & Bills, you need to use the menu item Business > Manage Document Link, *while viewing the document*. (not the report of the document, the document itself - same as when you first created it) You can't have separate linked files per line item, but you have two o

Re: [GNC] I need basic help

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
On 10/21/23 11:38 AM, R Losey wrote: On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 11:57 AM Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: On 10/20/2023 11:47 AM, Edwin Booth wrote: Thank you Michael. The ancient history of these terms is really interesting. I don’t really “get it” yet but I see the i

Re: [GNC] I need basic help

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Edwin, Debit/Credit is just Left/Right. Maybe this will help... The Accounting Equation: Assets - Liabilities = Equity (let's make all terms 'positive') Assets = Liabilities + Equity (now, we'll split off a subset of Equity) Assets = Liabilities + Equity + Retained Earnin

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Quinn Wood
On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 9:59 AM Michael or Penny Novack < stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote: > Sorry, but this isn't really a gnucash question. > > By which I mean if you knew how to do this (by the standards of your > jurisdiction) were the books being kept the old fashioned way, pen and > ink on

Re: [GNC] I need basic help

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
By default, formal labels are not used. GnuCash already caters to this idea. Regards, Adrien On 10/20/23 5:48 PM, flywire wrote: https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2023-October/109184.html Edwin Booth wrote: I need to wrap my head around the whole “debit/credit” concept. No you

Re: [GNC] I need basic help

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I am also of the opinion that hiding or obfuscating terms and concepts is not the solution. Education is. Yeah, I got an A in Accounting 101, big whoop, but I've understood it by leaps and bounds decades later by using GnuCash with formal labels turned on. (and using the Transaction Journal V

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
First, your use case might be out of scope for GnuCash. But you might be able to accomplish #3 with a Transaction Report. Since you want a delta though, you will likely have to run two such reports with different ending dates (either independently or using the Multi-Column report) and then exp

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2023-10-22 09:47, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Why do you want to close the books? Habit? > GnuCash is designed to not need to. I was closing books because otherwise I thought I couldn't see current year's income and expense totals. But, as Adrien taught me, if you just want a way to see the curr

Re: [GNC] I need basic help

2023-10-22 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2023-10-22 10:42, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > I am also of the opinion that hiding or obfuscating terms and concepts > is not the solution. +1 It usually makes things harder not easier, as this very thread has illustrated at great length. Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA https://BrownMath.com/ __

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Quinn Wood
On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 12:56 PM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > First, your use case might be out of scope for GnuCash. > Could you clarify what you believe the use case is, and what you believe in-scope use of the software would be? _

Re: [GNC] Having issues with gsettings, dconf, gsettings-dconf-backend and GnuCash

2023-10-22 Thread Stephen M. Butler
I am on Ubuntu 23.04.  My settings allow for the most recent version and I have not seen 23.10 as an optional update to apply. But, on 23.04 I have had not problems building the most recent versions of GnuCash from the GIT repository.  A number of releases back a script was made available that

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
From the GnuCash website: "GnuCash is personal and small-business financial-accounting software..." (also contained in the Readme.txt file) How large or complicated of a 'small business' is meant here would be better answered by one of the developers, but an example of out-of-scope would be '

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Quinn Wood
On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 1:42 PM Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote: > From the GnuCash website: > > "GnuCash is personal and small-business financial-accounting software..." > I will note that "small" in terms of revenue, assets, staff, or owners is arbitrary, so I'll focu

[GNC] Bravo, Adrien, well explained! [was: Re: I need basic help]

2023-10-22 Thread Jim DeLaHunt
Bravo, Adrien! You weren't writing this message for me, but you happened to write the explanation of "debit" and "credit" which I found very clear. I realise that this won't be the ideal explanation for everyone, but it was for me. Thank you for helping me understand. And thank you to everyon

Re: [GNC] Bravo, Adrien, well explained! [was: Re: I need basic help]

2023-10-22 Thread Mark at Lorimark
Geez, I scraped it and put it in my database and called it "Accounting Principles Explained". Thank you Adrien! On 10/22/23 15:23, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: Bravo, Adrien! You weren't writing this message for me, but you happened to write the explanation of "debit" and "credit" which I found very

Re: [GNC] scheduled transactions: simple or compound interest calculations in

2023-10-22 Thread Name Same
Hi Adrien, Thanks for the reply, I figured out how to use the formula system with scheduled transactions with some trial-and-error. I tried both a simple formula like 1000*4/100 for a recurring fixed 4% deposit, and a compounding formula, like: computeInterestIncrement( 1000.00 : 0.4 : 12 : i ) w

Re: [GNC] Bravo, Adrien, well explained! [was: Re: I need basic help]

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You're quite welcome Jim, and here I thought I was the one learning from you! We all have something to offer others, is I think, the lesson here. Regards, Adrien On 10/22/23 3:23 PM, Jim DeLaHunt wrote: Bravo, Adrien! You weren't writing this message for me, but you happened to write the ex

Re: [GNC] I need basic help

2023-10-22 Thread David Cousens
Adrien, This needs to make it into the Basics section of the Guide. I am planning to revise it when I get a break from grandchildren and other activities in line with some of flywire's comments re putting transaction explanation before the details of accounts. David On Sun, 2023-10-22 at 12:36

Re: [GNC] Bravo, Adrien, well explained! [was: Re: I need basic help]

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You're welcome! I think I have a longer winded version in another thread somewhere, but I think this one does a better job. Regards, Adrien On 10/22/23 3:30 PM, Mark at Lorimark wrote: Geez, I scraped it and put it in my database and  called it "Accounting Principles Explained". __

Re: [GNC] scheduled transactions: simple or compound interest calculations in

2023-10-22 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2023-10-22 13:36, Name Same wrote: > One thing I note is that in the transaction template, I had to show > a debit action into the bank account, and a credit action from > Income:interest to keep the sheet balanced. Is that the right thing to do? Absolutely. Debits must balance credits in every

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
GnuCash is designed to not need to. You can happily just keep plodding along until the Sun consumes the Earth. Closing books was necessary in pen and paper days because books were physical volumes with limited space. They were not infinite. This had the added benefit of catching errors

Re: [GNC] scheduled transactions: simple or compound interest calculations in

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
See my reply in the thread titled "I need basic help" made today that gives an overview of Debits & Credits. Your splits in that transaction should be something like: Dr. Assets:Deposit Account (amount = cash + interest) Cr. Assets:Cash Cr. Income:Interest (These are just general names, us

Re: [GNC] I need basic help

2023-10-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Cool, thanks! (I attempted to setup a documentation build workflow long ago but put it on a back burner along with a pile of other things. I need to bring it to the front. In the meantime, thanks for considering this a worthy addition.) There is already some discussion with nice graphics con

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)
On 2023-10-22 12:55, Quinn Wood wrote: > The only use case where retained earnings comes into play is when > performing bookkeeping for a business that is taxed separately from its > owners. I don't think that's right. (1) I was on the Board of a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt charity, and we had retained

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Quinn Wood
On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 3:56 PM Stan Brown (using GC 4.14) < stan...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > On 2023-10-22 12:55, Quinn Wood wrote: > > The only use case where retained earnings comes into play is when > > performing bookkeeping for a business that is taxed separately from its > > owners. > > I don'

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread David Cousens
Quinn, Have you investigated customizing the reports for the particular situation and renaming the report sections to meet your needs. The Edit->Report Options alows selecting particular accounts, date ranges etc but modifying the report code (Scheme) allows you to customize them to whatever you w

Re: [GNC] When closing books, equity statement report is incorrect

2023-10-22 Thread Quinn Wood
On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 5:11 PM David Cousens wrote: > Have you investigated customizing the reports for the particular situation > and > renaming the report sections to meet your needs. The Edit->Report Options > alows > selecting particular accounts, date ranges etc but modifying the report > c