Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-27 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Both Michael & user 'flywire' have offered the 'how to do that' answer. Michael's answer involves out-of-the box reports that are further manipulated outside of GnuCash to achieve the desired end result, using the standard method of entering transactions. (this is quite normal for anything but

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-27 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 5/27/2024 9:12 AM, Edward Bainton wrote: How about this: You have to know that first, then ask, "How do I accomplish this using GnuCash?" Think of funds accounting as different colours of money. Every account and every category can include any colour of money. I need the gross figure for

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-27 Thread Edward Bainton
How about this: > You have to know that first, then ask, "How do I accomplish this using GnuCash?" Think of funds accounting as different colours of money. Every account and every category can include any colour of money. I need the gross figure for each account and category, the figure for each

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-26 Thread Adrien Monteleone
This is a perfect example of why this list is not the place for accounting advice. We can't answer, "What should I do?" You have to know that first, then ask, "How do I accomplish this using GnuCash?" In many cases, the answer is, "The same way you'd do so with Pen & Paper." (sans the actua

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-26 Thread Edward Bainton
The issue UK charity funds accounting presents is that the funds represent a “third dimension” beyond Dr/Cr: every account, and every category, must be subdivided into as many restricted funds as the organisation has (strictly n + 1, since there is almost invariably an unrestricted fund, too). If

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-26 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 5/26/2024 1:37 PM, Michael Hendry wrote: Hi, Michael, We’ve corresponded about this in the past. I was keen to keep track of restricted funds within GC in a way which would make unspent restricted income persist as restricted funds beyond the year end, and you suggested the use of a Liabil

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-26 Thread Michael Hendry
Hi, Michael, We’ve corresponded about this in the past. I was keen to keep track of restricted funds within GC in a way which would make unspent restricted income persist as restricted funds beyond the year end, and you suggested the use of a Liability account for this purpose, Unfortunately,

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-26 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
On 5/26/2024 10:24 AM, (Alan) David Smith wrote: Dear Sir/Madam, I am an FCCA in England and an ex PCC treasurer. The main point to bear in mind about funds is that they must be accounted for Separately. They do not have to be represented by separate bank accounts, but it may advisable in Cer

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-26 Thread Edward Bainton
When I asked this question a couple of years ago there were quite a few suggestions. (Someone better versed in listserv could probably find this, but I can't.) The solution that seemed most straightforward and workable to me was: - Assign each discrete fund a currency code - assuming the

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-26 Thread (Alan) David Smith
Dear Sir/Madam, I am an FCCA in England and an ex PCC treasurer. The main point to bear in mind about funds is that they must be accounted for Separately. They do not have to be represented by separate bank accounts, but it may advisable in Certain cases. So one bank can share various funds. B

Re: [GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-25 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
You did NOT have to have separate books! In ONE set of books you can have as many "bank accounts" in the ledger ans you have bank accounts. Just give them different names so that you can tell them apart. We may have some difficulties with cross pond differences in language. Thus your "current

[GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-25 Thread flywire
Just use a sub account of the bank account for credits and debits. If you have more complex reporting then use filter reports - https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2024-May/111804.html Regards > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gn

[GNC] Using GnuCash with charity restricted and unrestricted funds, advice wanted

2024-05-25 Thread Chris Green
I am the treasurer of a very small parish church council in the UK. We have to present separate accounts for restricted and unrestricted accounts, this is a legal requirement and also required by our diocese. At the moment restricted funds are, basically, building funds and are kept in an interes