[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

In the end, there is no free lunch, and the lunch in academic publishing is mostly paid by taxpayers via the work of researchers as authors, reviewers, editors or consumers of publications. I think the crucial question is whether public research institutions, funders, learned societies or cha

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

Sally May I suggest we drop the 'fairy godmother' terminology. It seems to be suggesting an impossible dream, as in Cinderella, or alternately is meant to be pejorative. I prefer to simply talk about the sponsored payment model, to be added to the reader-side fee model and the author-side fee

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

But indeed, most reviewers +are+ paid. Reviewing is part of the academic day job and the activity is part of the reporting made to their institutions. This is the whole point here: how far may an institution go in acting as a fairy godmother to scholarly publishing. Laurent Le 9 août 2012 à 16:

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed byscholarly communities/institutions

I didn't say they were paid or that they should be. I merely pointed out that each and ever scholarly journal has at least some of its costs covered by 'fairy godmothers'. They all benefit from massive subsidies. The journals we are talking about here just extend those subsidies a little. Da

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed byscholarly communities/institutions

As far as I am aware, peer reviewers are almost never paid under any model (I am aware of one publisher that used to reward rapid responses). I believe there were surveys (sorry, no reference to hand) which indicated that everyone involved felt that it would be inappropriate to pay peer reviewers

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

This is known as commons-based peer production. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons-based_peer_production Esther On 9-8-2012 13:02, Peter Murray-Rust wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Jan Velterop > wrote: > > No, 27,995 still to be converted :-) >

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Richard Poynder wrote: > I was thinking that some people may feel the needs and aspirations of small > community-based journals would be somewhat different to the needs and > aspirations of those large commercial publishers that have joined OASPA. > Agreed. I thi

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

I was thinking that some people may feel the needs and aspirations of small community-based journals would be somewhat different to the needs and aspirations of those large commercial publishers that have joined OASPA. -Original Message- From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed byscholarly communities/institutions

Of course, to a greater or lesser extent all journals are supported by the 'fairy godmother' model. With peer reviewers playing the part of the fairy godmothers! David Prosser On 9 Aug 2012, at 11:50, Sally Morris wrote: > These are all examples of the 'fairy godmother' payment model > > S

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Jan Velterop wrote: > No, 27,995 still to be converted :-) > > Jan > > No, 27995 - x where x is the number of new people working in an extended community mode. The 250,000 people who have helped to create Open Street Map and get it accepted as among the highes

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed byscholarly communities/institutions

These are all examples of the 'fairy godmother' payment model Sally Sally Morris South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex, UK BN13 3UU Tel: +44 (0)1903 871286 Email: sa...@morris-assocs.demon.co.uk _ From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

A systematic review and critical appraisal of this 'voluntary society publishing'would be a good thing. I would offer up the IASSIST Quarterly, (ISSN: 0739-1137) a peer-reviewed, indexed, open access quarterly publication of articles dealing with social science information and data services. "

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

Hi, The Open Access Scholarly Publishers Association (OASPA) also welcomes individual journal members, but despite a very low yearly fee of 90 USD for such journals, rather few have joined. Journal of Information Technology in Construction is one example and I've been a board member for three

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

I would add some journal form economics: a) E-conomics (institutional funding): http://www.economics-ejournal.org/ b) Theoretical Economics (society based funding): http://econtheory.org/ c) 5x IZA journals published with SpringerOpen (institutional funding by IZA): http://journals.iza.or

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

No, 27,995 still to be converted :-) Jan On 9 Aug 2012, at 12:05, Laurent Romary wrote: > So you know 27,995 which are working without any private publisher in the > loop and no author/reader fee. > Laurent > > Le 9 août 2012 à 11:55, Jan Velterop a écrit : > >> It's a start. 27,995 or so t

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

So you know 27,995 which are working without any private publisher in the loop and no author/reader fee. Laurent Le 9 août 2012 à 11:55, Jan Velterop a écrit : > It's a start. 27,995 or so to go. > > Jan > > On 9 Aug 2012, at 11:43, Laurent Romary wrote: > >> Thanks. Are these all managed o

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

Is there an umbrella organisation that represents independent community-based journals like these? If not, should there be such an organisation? From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] On Behalf Of Laurent Romary Sent: 09 August 2012 10:44 To: Bo-Christer Björk Cc: Glob

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Raf Dekeyser wrote: > A good example is "LIBER Quarterly", the journal of LIBER, the European > Association of Research Libraries. > Last year a completely new Editorial Board of 19 people was installed, > organizing the peer review, and as > a retired professor I

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

It's a start. 27,995 or so to go. Jan On 9 Aug 2012, at 11:43, Laurent Romary wrote: > Thanks. Are these all managed on their own? > Laurent > > Le 9 août 2012 à 11:42, Bo-Christer Björk a écrit : > >> Good idea, >> >> Here are four such journals, all of which have been there since the 1990s:

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

Thanks. Are these all managed on their own? Laurent Le 9 août 2012 à 11:42, Bo-Christer Björk a écrit : > Good idea, > > Here are four such journals, all of which have been there since the 1990s: > > Information Research > > Journal of Information Technology in Construction > > Journal of Ele

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

Good idea, Here are four such journals, all of which have been there since the 1990s: Information Research Journal of Information Technology in Construction Journal of Electronic Publishing First Monday best regards Bo-Christer Björk Journal of On 8/9/12 11:35 AM, Laurent Romary wrote: De

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions

A good example is "LIBER Quarterly", the journal of LIBER, the European Association of Research Libraries. Last year a completely new Editorial Board of 19 people was installed, organizing the peer review, and as a retired professor I am working as managing editor on a voluntary basis. Small cos

[GOAL] Re: Publications managed by scholarly communities/institutions (was: Re: Planning for the Open Access Era)

Dear all, As an echo to the fourth option mentioned by Peter, I would like to gather references to journals and initiatives which are notoriously community based. Could members of the list point to what they would be aware of? Thanks in advance, Laurent Le 7 août 2012 à 16:11, Peter Murray-Rust