Re: [Goanet] Voice Of The Exploited

Gilbert seems to have difficulty differentiating between personal freedom of expression and government sanctioned propaganda. First of all, contrary to what Gilbert claims, the KKK, Aryan Nation and other white supremist groups are free to express their opinions in the United States - and thankful

Re: [Goanet]Goa Cabinet to decide on fresh date for trust motion

> Cabinet to decide on fresh date for trust motion > NT News Service > > > He further said that today’s event proved that the BJP did not care for the > law and the Constitution and that its leadership could go to any extent to > hang on to power. > By hook or by crook! now its crystal clear, why

[Goanet]Budget and Aviation

1. http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=65642 Patel hints at lowering ATF tax For the big hopes that had been built prior to the Budget, the sector received only a minor reprieve with the government deciding to treat ATF as a deemed export item for designated carriers flying abr

Re: [Goanet] Caste and Gender Preference

--- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There appear at least two schools of political > philosophical thought in these matters. The first, > is 'politics of envy' which suggests that those who > fight for justice should disclose their own > background so others can see if they are motiv

[Goanet]Small Mercies indeed!

From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < We are indeed fortunate. We at least have a choice about which set of thieves to pick to rule over us! > Tonybab, well said. Sad but true. Between a Rock and a Hard Place. Between those who thief 957 crores and those who thief 1000 crores. Atleast

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify thems

Dear Alf, Thanks for the vital info. You see I was born in Ponje, and during my days in Ponje caste was rarely discusssed. My dad was a social and he got along with all. Hindu and Cathloics ani matti gobor. I am learning about the casta only on these lists. B. Colaco > > But just touching about

Re: [Goanet] Voice Of The Exploited

--- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >GL responds to Santosh: >The KKK in the USA used to put out in word, in print >and in movies a lot of fictional material about >blacks and Jews. No amount of responses, civil >protests and civil-right laws could end the hatred >and the violence - s

[Goanet]East Bengal end first phase on top

East Bengal end first phase on top March 01, 2005 20:38 IST East Bengal scored a hard-fought 2-1 victory over Sporting Clube De Goa in a 11th round match of the National Football League, at the Nehru stadium in Margao, Goa, on Tuesday. After a barren first-half, which saw both teams miss chanc

[Goanet]Cecil and Gender Preference

From: Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> suggesting I am 'superior' to someone who is gay? > From Naresh Fernandes, Mumbai Jazz Goes To Bollywood Kitem mhuntai re Tio Alfredo de Sveridge? jc http://www.colaco.net PS: just read George Pinto's posting on "caste". A very interesting post. Makes

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

--- "Teotonio R. de Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Gabriel, > > No amount of education is ever too much. Your > reaction sounds more like > cognitive dissonance" of someone who hates to hear > what hurts his / her > feelings or what threatens his/her well-being. Let > us not forget

[Goanet]Goa: I took oath as Speaker, says Sardinha

I took oath as Speaker, says Sardinha NT Staff Reporter Panaji March 1: The pro-tem Speaker, Mr Francisco Sardinha today observed that he had full powers of Speaker and said that he had been administered oath as Speaker. Mr Sardinha, who took charge of the office today morning, started functionin

[Goanet]Re: Caste and Gender Preference

--- Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ... being straight I am a great supporter of gay and lesbian rights. But the > quandary I > face is that by identifying myself as being straight am I in some way > suggesting I am > 'superior' to someone who is gay? Am I being condescending in my

RE: [Goanet] Small Mercies!

Tony Correia-Afonso, <> Do you really think this sort of language is appropriate? Could you please re-phrase it? Cip UK -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 01 March 2005 22:47 We are indeed fortunate. There are millions of people around the world living under tyranical r

[Goanet]Another chaos in Goa drama (TOI)

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1037504.cms Another chaos in Goa dramaAdd to Clippings TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ TUESDAY, MARCH 01, 2005 10:49:00 PM PANAJI: The political imbroglio in Goa took an interesting turn when employees of the assembly secretariat and the Speaker's office frantica

[Goanet]Voice Of The Exploited

GL responds to Santosh: The KKK in the USA used to put out in word, in print and in movies a lot of fictional material about blacks and Jews. No amount of responses, civil protests and civil-right laws could end the hatred and the violence - similar to India. In the USA, this has stopped now! Beca

Re: [Goanet]Landing feet first!

On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 18:21:06 -0500, Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Natacha Romao wrote: > hi goan friends i'm natacha and i'm from portugal. ... > > Natacha: > I felt at home and since then i wish to go linving in goa, i was saving > money and i have already my plane

[Goanet]RE: Landing feet first - easy now!!!!

From: Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tourist Visas don't allow you to stay for more than four weeks. Dear Cecil, Your posting was very amusing indeed. I hope Natacha read it as such. If she is new to this forum and/or if she isn't aware that Cecil Pinto is a brilliant humourist, she just might b

[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * Mar 01, 2005 * Cong-BJP war of allegations...

[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s MARCH 01, 2005 DATELINE: GOA ||g |||o |||a |||n |||e |||t || Issue compiled by ||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|| Frederick Noronha |/__\|/__\|/__\|/__\|/

[Goanet]Landing feet first!

Natacha Romao wrote: hi goan friends i'm natacha and i'm from portugal. Cecil: Hi Natacha. Welcome to GoaNet. I live in Miramar and work in Panjim, Goa. But I'm originally from a village in Bardez. But Fred Noronha, who is an Administrator on this list, says if I mention my village and my surna

[Goanet]Re: ZATHI ANI KATHI GOEMKARAM MODEM

Re: ZATHI ANI KATHI GOEMKARAM MODEM Literally the title translated into English as 'Caste & Colour Among Goans', this article by Sanny Vaz, ex-Monte de Guirim student (also well known as Sanny de Quepem) is very enlightening and focused on the subject from the chambers to the .. ! Hope as

Re: [Goanet]New research on * Goan MP's in the Portuguese Parliament*

Dear Teotonio, Purxotoma Quenim was never a resident of Portugal, where he came only (or mostly) during the functioning of the "Assembleia Nacional" (Portuguese Parliament). As such, he had nothing to do with the "Comissariado do Estado da India" which, as you know, was instituted by Salazar after

RE: [Goanet]JOB VACANCY - IN DUBAI

hi   is there any vacany for IT support personnel or computer administrator   thanks Avinash Carneiro *** * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S *

[Goanet]Caste and Creed

Having read the recent discourse,I am posting this article for the benefit of all.We need to move beyond our caste and creed. Caste is an accident of birth. Jesus did not believe in caste or division.On the contrary,he reached out to the downtrodden and the outcastes.So it lies in each one of

[Goanet]Police raid houses of BJP leaders in Goa

Police raid houses of BJP leaders in Goa (LEAD) -->Indo-Asian News Service Panaji, March 1 (IANS) The Goa police Tuesday raided the houses of Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) legislator Sadanand Thanawade, party general-secretary Satish Dhond and Rajendra Janu in connection with a case of forge

[Goanet]Small Mercies!

We are indeed fortunate. There are millions of people around the world living under tyranical regimes who have no choice about the people who rule over them. We at least have a choice about which set of thieves to pick to rule over us! ---Tony Correia-Afonso. ***

[Goanet]Death by the River Sal

The text below has details of a murder that took place recently. Please do not read further if you are squeamish about corpses. -Clinton.. Pulvaddo, Benaulim, Goa - India 01st March 2005 10.45pm Across the river Sal, two bridges span its banks linking the city of Margao to Benaulim. It was under

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

Nice try, Teotonio, but you seem determined to obfuscate the entire issue and put obstacles in the path of any progress by continuing to introduce notions that have no relevence to the issue of stamping out the caste system that I can see. In fact it caters to those that support this diabolical s

[Goanet]Open wells, harvesting water

This isn't quite related to Goa, but it's simply too important to ignore. Check out these articles on rainwater harvesting from the Bangalore-based newspaper Deccan Herald which I once wor

Re: [Goanet] Evolution (contd)

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Hello, >Here are links to three articles discussing quite >convincingly a creationist view point. > Orlando, There is a lot of self-published pseudoscientific literature on creationism on the web and in print. It appears "convincing" only to believers, lay people

[Goanet]Caste, Communidade and Gaum Devi

Interestingly enough the Aldona Church was one of the first to unite the two caste based confrarias into one. This same progressive village though has two communidades. One for the Brahmins and one for the Chardos. They both have grandiose sounding names. I forget which is which. And all effort

[Goanet]Caste and Gender Preference

George Pinto makes an interesting point: "Justice means we do not need to be women to fight sexism, senior-citizens to fight ageism, chardo to fight the caste system, etc." - In principle I agree. For example despite being straight I am a great supporter of gay and lesbian rights. But the qu

[Goanet]A quick reply to your reply

Hi Gilbert, I get the distinct impression that you have taken to shouting rampantly from the rooftops at those taking an honest and conscientious anti-casteist position among Catholic Goans. Shouting is really not necessary, my good man, if one has something to say that is worthwhile. And now

Re: [Goanet]Caste and effects of debate.

"D'Souza, Avelino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The rationale of the debate is tricky to comprehend. > Mario replies: Avelino, what about the fact that many of us want to abolish the diabolical caste system, starting with our own Goan Catholic community, do you find "tricky to comprehend"? I don'

[Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

Dear Avelino, If the subject has gained a roller coaster impact on so many readers who have intervened, including even Bernado Colaco, with "unlimited quantity and differing contents", it is because it touches a very sensitive social issue for Goans. If you could already fore-cast an "obstinate

[Goanet]Goan and caste

Hi PD Perhaps you missed my post. I did request an English and Reader's Digest version of the article you are referring to. So you have some work to do. :=)) Also, I sign off my post as GL. But my e-mail address has my full name. Can you oblige? It is also a requirement from GoaNet administration.

RE: [The Goan Forum d-list] Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify thems

From: Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: goanet@goanet.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [The Goan Forum d-list] Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves? Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:43:37 + (GMT) In my life I was not tutored about the casta in Goa.

Re: [Goanet]Want to move to Goa

I am told, the hotel industry in Goa is hiring foreigners in front-office jobs. They also hire foreigners in areas such as customer relations, liason with tour operators in the West etc. Once you get to Goa, you could directly approach the upscale hotels and see where your skills fit in. Altern

[Goanet]Landing feet first!

Natacha Romao wrote: hi goan friends i'm natacha and i'm from portugal. Cecil: Hi Natacha. Welcome to GoaNet. I live in Miramar and work in Panjim, Goa. But I'm originally from a village in Bardez. But Fred Noronha, who is an Administrator on this list, says if I mention my village and my surname

Re: [Goanet]Respect everyone?

Fred, Since you are playing devil's advocate, let me play angel's advocate. 1. Why is the mention of workers in the field versus Altinho residents biased in itself? Don't some people in Goa work in the fields and generally live in the villages, while others more affluent live in Altinho? Have w

[Goanet]Cecil's family portrait

Cecil, Your wife and children turned out great in the pictures, but you looked like you were ready to kill that photographer with that low browed, heavy lidded look :) Dan PS: Seriously, GREAT pictures. I'm sure they'll be the envy of everyone in Aldona :) **

[Goanet]Goa Scholars call for the Battle

My immense thanks to all those responded to my earlier e-mail ' Horror at Goa University'. My thanks also to those who met me personally and offered solidarity, to those who called up and expressed support. I also aknowledge those who supplied oxygen to this candle of resistence to Academi

RE: [Goanet]Want to move to Goa

Natacha, Are you of Goan origin; If either that or, basically Portuguese, I feel I could render you some helpfull guidance. Com abraços, Alfred de Tavares, Stockholm, Sweden. Tel: 0046 8 659 6214 From: NATACHA ROMAO Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Want to move to

[Goanet]G.O.A Rolling Trophy Draw

G.O.A Rolling Trophy Draw The draw of the prestigious 'GOA Rolling Trophy' soccer tournament being organized by Goan Overseas Association (Kuwait) will be held at the Village Inn Restaurant in downtown Kuwait City on 2nd March 2005 at 7:00pm sharp. The 12th edition of this major tournament is o

[Goanet]Vajpayee's advice On Goa!

http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/news/features.php?action=fullnews&id=78937 Democracy murdered in Goa, hold elections: Vajpayee: [India News]: New Delhi, March 1 : Former prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee Tuesday demanded fresh elections in Goa, which has been plunged into political turmoil o

Re: [Goanet] Evolution (contd)

- Original Message - >From: "Peter D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: 28 February, 2005 6:41 PM >Subject: [Goanet] Evolution (contd) >Elsewhere in this post I have >explained the seeming consistency in an evolutionist's belief that man might >have existed for millions of years and y

[Goanet]Caste and effects of debate.

The readers of the caste system thread are experiencing the effects of a roller coaster ride. The unlimited quantity and differing contents of posts have virtually exhausted readers like me. I find difficult to understand, ponder and come to a conclusion about the pros and cons of caste system.

[Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

Dear Gabriel, No amount of education is ever too much. Your reaction sounds more like cognitive dissonance" of someone who hates to hear what hurts his / her feelings or what threatens his/her well-being. Let us not forget that there are many others who would benefit from more knowledge. The

[Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

Dear Mario / Basilio, Perhaps I should not have joined both in the same reply, because you both have very different points of view and strategies. But I am joining the two precisely because of that. Mario wants to handle the problem of the Catholics first, and leave it to Santosh, Radhakrishnan

Re: [Goanet]Caste and all the cacophany: some thoughts

Basilio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Caste and all the cacophony: some thoughts > My contribution to the battle against the caste: facilitate personal transformation. I only sow the seed; it is for the Lord to reap the fruits. I fully expect to be pilloried for what I have written. So be it. I may

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

Gabriel, This is precisely the point I've been trying to make. However, it seems like it is taking a lot longer than I thought to sink in to the psyche's of some Goanetters. Some are attempting to deny that it even exists, and others think that ignoring it will make it go away. Bravo and amen an

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

In my life I was not tutored about the casta in Goa. Recently and because of this vociferous activity on the lists, I bothered to ask and was told that we were zuamkars from a place called Xorao! Teo does the word zaum mean anything to you? B. Colaco > > > Respect everyone, no matter if they wo

Re: [Goanet]Re: New research on * Goan MP's in the Portuguese Parliament

Dear Teo, I am not a genio like you to publish fake history. My Portugues does not go alem da quarta classe. But thank deus you are now changing. We now need the Portugas innit? B. Colaco P.S.: I had intentions of writing a story called 'Um besta da historiador'. I have now called it off. ---

RE: [Goanet]Goa Speaker's resignation.

From: Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet]Goa Speaker's resignation. Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 17:28:17 + http://www.ndtv.com/topstories/showtopstory.asp?slug=Goa+Speaker+resigns%2C+sparks+latest+crisis&id=16393 NDTV Correspondent Mon

[Goanet]Our Family Portrait session with Alex Fernandes at Portrait Atelier

I first met Alex Fernandes sometime last November when he was in the process of setting up his portrait studio, Portrait Atelier. A nice natured easygoing guy, Alex had retired young from his job at Kodak in Kuwait where he set up and managed a high end professional portrait studio, and was very

[Goanet]Respect everyone?

Just to play devil's advocate, this stand would seem to be biased in itself. "If they work in the fields" and "owning a house in prime Altinho" would have certain caste connotations. Or wouldn't it? It shows how deeply influenced our minds are by a reality like caste, even if we say otherwise.

[Goanet]NEWS JUST NOW: BJP members storm into well,Rajya Sabha

BJP members storm into well, RS adjourned till 1400 hrs New Delhi, Mar 1, 2005 (UNI) The Rajya Sabha was today adjourned for about three hours following uproarious scenes by the BJP-led opposition demanding restoration of Parrikar government in Goa. The Opposition members, especially the BJP mem

Re: [Goanet] Evolution (contd)

Hi Peter, Your latest post under the above thread did appear on Goanet (Please see the archives). Therefore, I am posting this reply. Here are my responses to your points. Peter D'Souza wrote: > >You are incorrect in stating that he assumed a >constant_ growth rate. In fact, this is what he did

[Goanet]If U2 are an AUDIO SLAVE like me....

ARE YOU A MELOMANIAC ? If U2 are an AUDIO SLAVE like me, you will NO DOUBT agree when I say that some bands have OUTLANDISH names. COUNTING CROWS, CRASH TEST DUMMIES, DASHBOARD CONFESSIONALS, THREE DOORS DOWN are such amusing and breathtaking names that after listening to them, one sure needs som

[Goanet]Goan Art on the Net - WebQuest column in Goa Today (repeat of an old posting)

Goan Art on the Internet The grand Fontainhas Heritage Festival (archived at www.goaheritage.org/events_fountainhasfest.htm ) has sparked off a renewed interest in Goan Art. Here's a synopisis of what's available for lovers of Goan Art on the Internet. Official Sites The Goa Tourism website (ww

[Goanet]Goa is indeed blessed............

I am so glad that there are so many public sprited indivuals who want to serve the public in Goa by getting themselves elected to office. And once elected, their public spirit and their desire to serve the public is so great, that they will allow themselves to be held hostage and separated from th

[Goanet]RE: GOANS AND CASTE

Teotonio thanks for your compliments and you liking my analogy of caste-identification > Makhan bhazi or flattery? Could not find any such indication from the portion of reproduced excerpt. Come into my parlour, said the spider to the fly? Try responding to Sammy Vaz's ZATHI ANI KATHI :) **

[Goanet]Birthdays from 28th Feb - 5th Mar 2005

Wishing you all a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY on behalf of GoaNetters to 28-Feb Nancy Medeira Kuwait 28-Feb Agnelo Fernandes 1-Mar Joyce Fernandes Aldona/Dubai 1-Mar SuzaneMapusa/Bahrain 2-Mar Frank D'SilvaNew Zealand 5-Mar Maria M