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... A curious oxymoron is the presence and practice of the caste system among
the Roman Catholics of Goa and Mangalore. For centuries ...
www.colaco.net/1/caste.h
CASTE STRUCTURE
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have NO PROBLEM with reporting facts.
I do HAVE PROBLEMS with the fiction. (aka called
docu-dramas) I do HAVE PROBLEMS with augmentations to
the facts.
My PHILOSOPHY: Think twice before one does harm
someone else. Because do unto others what you
Any castiologist could point towards the caste system
in Damao. Or do they have one? People from Damao have
origins in Goa innit? If they do not have a casta, how
did it disappear?
B. Colaco
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Senhor Gouveia,
In my childhood I lived in a Animal Farm. So it was
social thinking from dawn to dusk. And when I got
married there was no question of casta. I got married
to Ms. Intelligence and Beautiful. I guess you Mumbai
guys are more into this casta thingy innit?
I have learnt more on the
The Catholic community in Mumbai has witnessed a strong migration to the West in
recent times.
According to immigration facilitation centres in the city, of the 15-20 people
that walk into their offices every day to make inquiries on immigration, at
least half belong to the Catholic community.
Gabriel de Figueiredo
Hi Gabriel,
I fully concur with your post. That's the way I was taught and brought
up by my family, and my village in Goa and in my Catholic education in
Goa and in Bombay. So I do not know where these guys come up with
blanket statements. Of course there are going to be the
Folks,
After listening to the debate here, I think the
vestiges of the caste system is actually a good thing.
It allows for young women to separate the men from the
boys.
Surely, the young men who tell their sweethearts that
they need to consult their daddy and mummy in order to
get married,
Tony Correia-Afonso,
It appears that you are refusing neither to withdraw nor to re-phrase your
statement.
I believe that there is good in each and every person.
Do you find any good in politicians so-called 'set of thieves'?
Are we not any better than other States of India?
Regards,
Cip
Well said Carlos!
the caste system will die fairly soon
I agree with Carlos that the so-called caste system among some fake Goan
Catholics, including some priests will perish soon as it has no foundation
whatsoever.
The so-called Catholic caste system is just a superiority complex illusion
William de Curtorim..who is also called 'King of Political songs' on the
Konkani stage
has last year sung two songs...on Goan Politics...the first one being
'Churchill Jiklo' and Rostear Jardinam' which are available on Manfa Music's
Menino De Bandar's audio casette 'Tin Medali'.
I would like to
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=65808
Jharkhand lessons for Goa, Bihar
Buta Singh will make sure he gets arithmetic
right before taking any decision in Bihar
NEERJA CHOWDHURY
Posted online: Friday, March 04, 2005 at 0126 hours IST
NEW DELHI, MARCH 3: As congress chief
As a proponent of this discussion of Caste, I am glad
that we have had this discussion and given everyone on
this forum an opportunity to air their views, deny
their personal prejudices etc. etc. It would appear
from the discussions that there are no casteeists
among us, or if there are any,
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Dear Goans,
We was very happy that Prince Jacob got up from the Sleep
to pull out a film PADRI when he was talking against VCD during the BJP was in
power, he said to BJP CM that today people demand is only Tiatr and not VCD so
after a released of many tiatr on VCD, we see
Dear Sanny,
Thanks a lots as you had listen my
word GoD Blessyou and your good work you had
translated in english.
your fellow Goan
Stephen
Muscat
Video Forum: March Screening
On Saturday, 5th March 2004, at 4.00 p.m. we will be having the sixth
screening under the aegis of the video forum. Besides the screening of Goa
Freedom Struggle we will also be showing the Murder of Democracy an audio-
visual proof of the farce at the Legislative
What Fred says is right about open wells and rain water harvesting.
It also costs more to dig a well in Goa. 3,700/-a mtr for a cast ring type
using bamboo instead of steel for the reinforcement for a 2mtr dia well. But I
think it is worth it considering the state of the public water supply. I
Cip Fernandes wrote in response to my posting on the subject:
Do you really think this sort of language is appropriate?
Could you please re-phrase it?
Dear Cip:
When Churchill called a fellow-member of Parliament (I think it was
Labour's Aneurin Bevan) a Liar, he was pulled up by the
I have NO PROBLEM with reporting the facts.
I do HAVE PROBLEMS with the fictionalized facts. (aka called
docu-dramas)
I do HAVE PROBLEMS with augmentations of the facts.
My PHILOSOPHY: Think twice before one does harm to someone else.
Because do unto others what you would like to be done to
Death of the caste system.
Whether you like it or not, I feel that the caste system will die fairly soon,
whether people like it or not. But how? If Gautama Buddha, Guru Nanak,
Ramchandra, Tulsidas and Swami Vivekanda (and others) could not reform it or
eradicate it, what will kill it off now?
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13685565
BJP questions role of pro tem Speaker
Thursday, 03 March , 2005, 22:02
Panaji: A day ahead of the confidence vote by the Pratapsinh Rane
government, the BJP on Thursday questioned the role of pro tem
Speaker.
The party said that a speaker not
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Evening we went to Inox for the movie Black. A tear-jerker story about a
blind-deaf girl and her teacher. Superb performances by Rani Mukherjee and
Amitabh Bhachan. Everyone had tears in their eyes during and after the
movie. I pitied the guy in the
After reading Mario Goveia's response to Bernado, I cannot resist sharing
the core of a private e-mail message I received with reference to the caste
discussion on the goanet. Is it perhaps driving a stake deep into the heart
of caste debate?
donĀ“t you believe this hanky-panky anti-caste
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13685558
Crucial document missing: Goa pro tem Speaker
Thursday, 03 March , 2005, 21:04
Panaji: Pro-term Speaker of the Goa Assembly Francisco Sardinha on
Thursday said a crucial document was missing from the file regarding
the disqualification of independent
Today has been a Red Eye Day for myself and Beatrice.
Morning we spent at the Government Swimming Pool (Membership Rs. 150/- a
month). Both of us are always red eyed after swimming. It's not actually
swimming but a mixture of walking, wading, floating, dog paddling, free
style and
Forwarded Message
From: DOMINICAN TRAINING CENTRE - MORIA GOA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Murder of Democracy
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:46:53 +0530
Video Forum: March Screening
On Saturday, 5th March 2004, at
Hi Gilbert,
Re your specific question to me on help to needy Goans in London, I can't
see the relevance at all to the ongoing debate on caste. However, as you are
obviously dying to know, I can tell that I have been, among other
associations, in the Goan Association as an editor with a last
Hi Sanny,
Thanks for your response and the clarification. I think you echo the
desire and feelings of the vast-vast majority of Goans both in our cyber
spaces and where ever we live.
It is most unfortunate that a few have capitalized on our past
differences instead of working for programs to
Basilio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Cornel:
So be it. We fight battles in many different ways. I
do not have the need to do battles to fit somebody's
understanding of the battle. I do what I can to
the best of my abilities, and not to meet anybody's
expectation.
If the way I choose to deal
Hi Bosco,
By way of a correction to your post, please let's not steal Mario's
thunder. The stake in the heart quote is definitely his and not mine.
Regards,
Cornel
Bosco poses an interesting question:
+++ Suppose I told you, a particular friend(s) of yours had a casteist
mindset,
would you do as you suggest below - stop associating with them?
Cecil:
Very interesting.
Firstly I would not take anyone's word about somebody else's casteist
mindset. If I
Avelino,
Since you seem determined to continue on this
approach, let me spell it out for you as there may be
others out there like you. We are talking about the
caste system in this thread, not all of society's
ills. The people's mindset, power and affluence may
be in play here, but the demon in
As I had written in response to Santosh / George, there may be politics of
guilt, but guilt without repentance is of no great usefulness. And guilt
followed by dispair could be disastrous, like tha case of biblical Judas who
got his 30 pieces osf silver for betraying Jesus and hanged himself!
The draw for the 12th edition of G.O.A Rolling Trophy being organized by
Goan Overseas Association (Kuwait) was held at the Village Inn
Restaurant on Wednesday, 2nd March 2005 at 7:30pm. This prestigious
soccer tournament being organized under the auspices of KIFF and
sponsored by Bassem
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What would you say is the scientific accuracy of
anything in the Bible? I am asking you because you
seem to question the accuracy of scientific methods
like radiocarbon dating. Would 195,000 years be
outside the margin of accuracy of Biblical
Dear Cecil,
Most of us (this covers Goanet as well) personally have no caste
feelings, and do not discriminate between people on basis of religion,
caste, etc. Naturally, we are perplexed as to what everybody is going on
about. This was once explained to me by a Sociology Prof. (no less!) as
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