[Goanet]Some explanations about caste structure in Goa

2005-03-03 Thread ^^ www.goa-world.com ^^
ARCHIVES ON THIS SUBJECT RE-VISITED: colaco.net/ The Caste System of India ... A curious oxymoron is the presence and practice of the caste system among the Roman Catholics of Goa and Mangalore. For centuries ... www.colaco.net/1/caste.h CASTE STRUCTURE

Re: [Goanet] Voice Of The Exploited

2005-03-03 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Gilbert Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have NO PROBLEM with reporting facts. I do HAVE PROBLEMS with the fiction. (aka called docu-dramas) I do HAVE PROBLEMS with augmentations to the facts. My PHILOSOPHY: Think twice before one does harm someone else. Because do unto others what you

Re: [Goanet]Re: ZATHI ANI KATHI GOEMKARAM MODEM - Casta in Damao

2005-03-03 Thread Bernado Colaco
Any castiologist could point towards the caste system in Damao. Or do they have one? People from Damao have origins in Goa innit? If they do not have a casta, how did it disappear? B. Colaco --- ^^ www.goa-world.com ^^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: ZATHI ANI KATHI GOEMKARAM MODEM Send

[Goanet]Secret of LCC JetBlue's Success

2005-03-03 Thread Philip Thomas
From JetBlue Leader Wins Jannus Award By TED JACKOVICS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Published: Mar 2, 2005 http://news.tbo.com/news/MGBM92XUS5E.html .. ... ... .. ... ... After developing and selling the e-ticketing system called Open Skies to Hewlett Packard in 1999, [David] Neeleman obtained $130

Re: [Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify thems

2005-03-03 Thread Bernado Colaco
Senhor Gouveia, In my childhood I lived in a Animal Farm. So it was social thinking from dawn to dusk. And when I got married there was no question of casta. I got married to Ms. Intelligence and Beautiful. I guess you Mumbai guys are more into this casta thingy innit? I have learnt more on the

[Goanet]Mumbai Catholics prefer to go abroad

2005-03-03 Thread Bosco D'Mello
The Catholic community in Mumbai has witnessed a strong migration to the West in recent times. According to immigration facilitation centres in the city, of the 15-20 people that walk into their offices every day to make inquiries on immigration, at least half belong to the Catholic community.

[Goanet]RE: Goans and caste

2005-03-03 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Gabriel de Figueiredo Hi Gabriel, I fully concur with your post. That's the way I was taught and brought up by my family, and my village in Goa and in my Catholic education in Goa and in Bombay. So I do not know where these guys come up with blanket statements. Of course there are going to be the

[Goanet]Caste and marriage

2005-03-03 Thread Mervyn Lobo
Folks, After listening to the debate here, I think the vestiges of the caste system is actually a good thing. It allows for young women to separate the men from the boys. Surely, the young men who tell their sweethearts that they need to consult their daddy and mummy in order to get married,

RE: [Goanet] Small Mercies!

2005-03-03 Thread Cip Fernandes
Tony Correia-Afonso, It appears that you are refusing neither to withdraw nor to re-phrase your statement. I believe that there is good in each and every person. Do you find any good in politicians so-called 'set of thieves'? Are we not any better than other States of India? Regards, Cip

RE: [Goanet] Death of the Caste System -- Carlos

2005-03-03 Thread Cip Fernandes
Well said Carlos! the caste system will die fairly soon I agree with Carlos that the so-called caste system among some fake Goan Catholics, including some priests will perish soon as it has no foundation whatsoever. The so-called Catholic caste system is just a superiority complex illusion

[Goanet]King of Political Songs!

2005-03-03 Thread Eddie Verdes
William de Curtorim..who is also called 'King of Political songs' on the Konkani stage has last year sung two songs...on Goan Politics...the first one being 'Churchill Jiklo' and Rostear Jardinam' which are available on Manfa Music's Menino De Bandar's audio casette 'Tin Medali'. I would like to

[Goanet]NEWS: Jharkhand lessons for Goa, Bihar

2005-03-03 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=65808 Jharkhand lessons for Goa, Bihar Buta Singh will make sure he gets arithmetic right before taking any decision in Bihar NEERJA CHOWDHURY Posted online: Friday, March 04, 2005 at 0126 hours IST NEW DELHI, MARCH 3: As congress chief

[Goanet]Casteeism et al............

2005-03-03 Thread Vivian D'Souza
As a proponent of this discussion of Caste, I am glad that we have had this discussion and given everyone on this forum an opportunity to air their views, deny their personal prejudices etc. etc. It would appear from the discussions that there are no casteeists among us, or if there are any,

[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * March 03-04, 2005 * Matanhy faces disqualification, session today

2005-03-03 Thread Goanet News Service
[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s MARCH 03-04, 2005 DATELINE: GOA ||g |||o |||a |||n |||e |||t || Issue compiled by ||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|||__|| Frederick Noronha

[Goanet]PRINCE JACOB OPEN HIS EYE AFTER CONGRESS IN POWER TO DO A Great FLIM ?

2005-03-03 Thread Stephen Fernandes
Dear Goans, We was very happy that Prince Jacob got up from the Sleep to pull out a film PADRI when he was talking against VCD during the BJP was in power, he said to BJP CM that today people demand is only Tiatr and not VCD so after a released of many tiatr on VCD, we see

[Goanet]Re: ZATHI ANI KATHI GOEMKARAM MODEM

2005-03-03 Thread Stephen Fernandes
Dear Sanny, Thanks a lots as you had listen my word GoD Blessyou and your good work you had translated in english. your fellow Goan Stephen Muscat

[Goanet]Murder of Democracy

2005-03-03 Thread DOMINICAN TRAINING CENTRE - MORIA GOA
Video Forum: March Screening On Saturday, 5th March 2004, at 4.00 p.m. we will be having the sixth screening under the aegis of the video forum. Besides the screening of Goa Freedom Struggle we will also be showing the Murder of Democracy an audio- visual proof of the farce at the Legislative

[Goanet]Open Wells, harvesting water

2005-03-03 Thread pascal pinto
What Fred says is right about open wells and rain water harvesting. It also costs more to dig a well in Goa. 3,700/-a mtr for a cast ring type using bamboo instead of steel for the reinforcement for a 2mtr dia well. But I think it is worth it considering the state of the public water supply. I

RE: [Goanet] Small Mercies!

2005-03-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cip Fernandes wrote in response to my posting on the subject: Do you really think this sort of language is appropriate? Could you please re-phrase it? Dear Cip: When Churchill called a fellow-member of Parliament (I think it was Labour's Aneurin Bevan) a Liar, he was pulled up by the

[Goanet]RE: Voice Of The Exploited

2005-03-03 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
I have NO PROBLEM with reporting the facts. I do HAVE PROBLEMS with the fictionalized facts. (aka called docu-dramas) I do HAVE PROBLEMS with augmentations of the facts. My PHILOSOPHY: Think twice before one does harm to someone else. Because do unto others what you would like to be done to

[Goanet]Death of the Caste System -- Carlos

2005-03-03 Thread Carlos6143
Death of the caste system. Whether you like it or not, I feel that the caste system will die fairly soon, whether people like it or not. But how? If Gautama Buddha, Guru Nanak, Ramchandra, Tulsidas and Swami Vivekanda (and others) could not reform it or eradicate it, what will kill it off now?

[Goanet]Jittery BJP!

2005-03-03 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13685565 BJP questions role of pro tem Speaker Thursday, 03 March , 2005, 22:02 Panaji: A day ahead of the confidence vote by the Pratapsinh Rane government, the BJP on Thursday questioned the role of pro tem Speaker. The party said that a speaker not

[Goanet]Re: Red Eye Day

2005-03-03 Thread George Pinto
--- Cecil Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evening we went to Inox for the movie Black. A tear-jerker story about a blind-deaf girl and her teacher. Superb performances by Rani Mukherjee and Amitabh Bhachan. Everyone had tears in their eyes during and after the movie. I pitied the guy in the

[Goanet]Re: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-03-03 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
After reading Mario Goveia's response to Bernado, I cannot resist sharing the core of a private e-mail message I received with reference to the caste discussion on the goanet. Is it perhaps driving a stake deep into the heart of caste debate? donĀ“t you believe this hanky-panky anti-caste

[Goanet]Sudhir Narvekar's fault!

2005-03-03 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13685558 Crucial document missing: Goa pro tem Speaker Thursday, 03 March , 2005, 21:04 Panaji: Pro-term Speaker of the Goa Assembly Francisco Sardinha on Thursday said a crucial document was missing from the file regarding the disqualification of independent

[Goanet]Red Eye Day

2005-03-03 Thread Cecil Pinto
Today has been a Red Eye Day for myself and Beatrice. Morning we spent at the Government Swimming Pool (Membership Rs. 150/- a month). Both of us are always red eyed after swimming. It's not actually swimming but a mixture of walking, wading, floating, dog paddling, free style and

[Goanet][Fwd: Murder of Democracy]

2005-03-03 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
Forwarded Message From: DOMINICAN TRAINING CENTRE - MORIA GOA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Vidyadhar Gadgil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Murder of Democracy Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:46:53 +0530 Video Forum: March Screening On Saturday, 5th March 2004, at

[Goanet]Needy Goans

2005-03-03 Thread cornel
Hi Gilbert, Re your specific question to me on help to needy Goans in London, I can't see the relevance at all to the ongoing debate on caste. However, as you are obviously dying to know, I can tell that I have been, among other associations, in the Goan Association as an editor with a last

[Goanet]Re: ZATHI ANI KATHI GOEMKARAM MODEM

2005-03-03 Thread Gilbert Lawrence
Hi Sanny, Thanks for your response and the clarification. I think you echo the desire and feelings of the vast-vast majority of Goans both in our cyber spaces and where ever we live. It is most unfortunate that a few have capitalized on our past differences instead of working for programs to

Re: [Goanet]response to Cornel

2005-03-03 Thread Mario Goveia
Basilio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Cornel: So be it. We fight battles in many different ways. I do not have the need to do battles to fit somebody's understanding of the battle. I do what I can to the best of my abilities, and not to meet anybody's expectation. If the way I choose to deal

[Goanet]Your summary

2005-03-03 Thread cornel
Hi Bosco, By way of a correction to your post, please let's not steal Mario's thunder. The stake in the heart quote is definitely his and not mine. Regards, Cornel

[Goanet]Caste and exclusivity

2005-03-03 Thread Cecil Pinto
Bosco poses an interesting question: +++ Suppose I told you, a particular friend(s) of yours had a casteist mindset, would you do as you suggest below - stop associating with them? Cecil: Very interesting. Firstly I would not take anyone's word about somebody else's casteist mindset. If I

Re: [Goanet]RE: Caste and effects of debate.

2005-03-03 Thread Mario Goveia
Avelino, Since you seem determined to continue on this approach, let me spell it out for you as there may be others out there like you. We are talking about the caste system in this thread, not all of society's ills. The people's mindset, power and affluence may be in play here, but the demon in

[Goanet]RE: Will the anti-casters identify themselves?

2005-03-03 Thread Teotonio R. de Souza
As I had written in response to Santosh / George, there may be politics of guilt, but guilt without repentance is of no great usefulness. And guilt followed by dispair could be disastrous, like tha case of biblical Judas who got his 30 pieces osf silver for betraying Jesus and hanged himself!

[Goanet]Draw of G.O.A Rolling Trophy held at Village Inn Restaurant (Kuwait)

2005-03-03 Thread Julio Cardoso
The draw for the 12th edition of G.O.A Rolling Trophy being organized by Goan Overseas Association (Kuwait) was held at the Village Inn Restaurant on Wednesday, 2nd March 2005 at 7:30pm. This prestigious soccer tournament being organized under the auspices of KIFF and sponsored by Bassem

Re: [Goanet] Evolution (contd)

2005-03-03 Thread Gabriel de Figueiredo
--- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would you say is the scientific accuracy of anything in the Bible? I am asking you because you seem to question the accuracy of scientific methods like radiocarbon dating. Would 195,000 years be outside the margin of accuracy of Biblical

Re: [Goanet]Caste - Activism v/s Research

2005-03-03 Thread Vidyadhar Gadgil
Dear Cecil, Most of us (this covers Goanet as well) personally have no caste feelings, and do not discriminate between people on basis of religion, caste, etc. Naturally, we are perplexed as to what everybody is going on about. This was once explained to me by a Sociology Prof. (no less!) as