Re: [Goanet] Acres of Diamonds

2005-06-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Peter D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >You didn't harm anybody by pointing out the errors, >and neither did Cynthia's letter harm anybody. I'm >sorry that you wasted much emotion in doing so. > Peter, I think you are confused with regard to your disposition towards my exposure of Cynthia

[Goanet]THINK TANK: THE CHALLENGE

2005-06-16 Thread Philip Thomas
[Goanet Newsbytes, June 14] This works out to a healthy average of 50 posts per day. If a significant number of them have to be "think tank" type (i.e. future oriented) then we need about 8 posts daily which are about (or applicable to) Goa in a broad gauged fundamental sense. If half of these can

Re: [Goanet]Willy without portfolio ??

2005-06-16 Thread carlos6143
Avelino, What Willy said about Congress may be right. Especially true, when the president of Goa Congress and CM are both non-catholics. Why did Congress not select a Catholic for one of these positions? Are Catholic votes taken for granted by Congress? It sure seems like. It appears to me, i

Re: [Goanet]Is Zubin Mehta really a Goan?

2005-06-16 Thread eric pinto
Zubin then went on to study at St.Xaviers College in Bombay, where he dropped out after the first year. His dad's goal for him was med-school, his public excuse was he disdained dissecting frogs, but it is known that he clashed with a Spanish Jesuit on staff, and has since turned down invitations t

Re: [Goanet]Re: *** Goanet Reader -- Goan society, its future direction...

2005-06-16 Thread Bernado Colaco
First off all we have got into a basket of rotten eggs since 61. Can we get out of it? Many Goans do not want to accept the truth! B. Colaco > > You have identified five mega problems -- > environmental degradation, > unscrupulous politicians, inward migration, > deterioration in education and

Re: [Goanet]Ghazals... on NPR

2005-06-16 Thread Bernado Colaco
Radio Macau has already played Concani Music in its Portuguese section. Unfortunately we have very limited talent. Who can take over from Lorna? B. Colaco ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday

Re: [Goanet]Why can't Zubin Mehta be a "Goan"?

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
Twiga, Are you really saying that people who don't have Goan ancestry will never be "Goans", even if they emigrate to Goa and own property there? I thought it was only "colored" immigrants to traditional western countries who had this chronic complaint that they would always be considered "outside

Re: [Goanet]Re: Home is where the heart is

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
"Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Incidentally, isn't the title of this topic misleading? If we adopt a Goa-is-best approach, then shouldn't the title line read 'Home is where our ancestors roots are'? > Mario replies: Fred, you were doing fine until you decided to go a step too

Re: [Goanet]Casimir Effect

2005-06-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- "Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >*--Your answer is biased. It is not an answer to my >question. > Fr. Ivo, What is your question? > >I repeat that this is not creation, but fluctuation >and change. > Why does a fluctuation or change from zero matter, zero energy and zero

Re: [Goanet] Can we dump the legend, and keep the message

2005-06-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
Mario Goveia wrote: Santosh, >would it be possible for you to use your impressive >ability to separate fact from fiction to not just >debunk urban legends that may conclude with a >socially redeeming message or suggestion, but to find >for us alternative truthful anecdotes that may support >the sam

[Goanet]In America, the crows stick to the garbage

2005-06-16 Thread Peter D'Souza
/Marlon Menezes writes:/// Personally, I dont give a hoot that people in Iraq may have been suffering under Saddam's rule, just I do not really care about the the genocide in Sudan or the fact that women are being raped over there. [deletia] Evil is all relative. I am sure

Re: [Goanet]Indigo a new Indian budget Airline?

2005-06-16 Thread Marlon Menezes
This is absolutely nuts. Are we seeing another dot com like craze before a bust? I cannot imagine India's current or proposed aviation infrastructure will be able to handle such a rapid rise in aircraft load. As for the person leading Indigo, is it not the same person who was blamed for and booted

[Goanet]Acres of Diamonds

2005-06-16 Thread Peter D'Souza
*Santosh Helekar asked: * Peter, Do you think there is any harm in pointing out that this "inspiring" story is an urban legend? Do you think we should let people forward fake chain letters to public forums without being corrected? Santosh, The 57-cents story truly warms the

Re: [Goanet] Third-party innuendo

2005-06-16 Thread Alfred de Tavares
From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: goanet@goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Third-party innuendo Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 08:20:04 -0700 (PDT) First of all, an anti-American Goan trying to insult me in such puerile fashion is like being called ugly by a frog.

[Goanet]Malaria, Africa ... and Goa

2005-06-16 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
United Nations Radio in New York is talking about malaria and Africa's attempt to fight the disease. There's some good news from there, and apparently there are chances of attaining some targets under the Roll-Back Malaria Programme. One might be wrong, but in Goa, the issue of malaria

Re: [Goanet]Amazing love story

2005-06-16 Thread Gabe Menezes
On 16/06/05, Cynthia Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > This is a beautiful story... a bit long but worth the read.. When I passed the floral shop on the way, I ordered a bouquet for my wife which was her favorite. The salesgirl asked me to write the greeting words on th

Re: [Goanet]Subject: Re: Can we dump the legend, and keep the message

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
--- sandeep heble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the point Dr. Helekar is making is quite > clear: why should an anecdote, which can tend to be > inspiring by itself, be exaggerated and fabricated > and then be presented as fact? Can we not call a > legend a legend, a tale a tale, a myth a

Re:[Goanet] In America, a balanced perspective on debt

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I dont give a hoot that people in Iraq > may have been suffering under Saddam's rule, just I > do not really care about the the genocide in Sudan > or the fact that women are being raped over there. > This is specially true when it comes

Re: [Goanet] In America, the crows stick to the garbage

2005-06-16 Thread Peter D'Souza
Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter, The logs also reveal that Chris Vaz made some rather racist comments on the Arab community in Michigan. I'm sure you dont agree with those comments of his! Marlon, If my memory serves me correctly, Chris used the term "ilk" in wha

Re:[Goanet] Some pure baloney in American revisionist history

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
Santosh, I don't have any more facts than you do on the settlement of North America. I'm sure you know that opinions are not just determined by facts, but by the weight one puts on each fact and on one's context and perspective. So, if you believe that historians, European or otherwise, are any m

Re: [Goanet] Finally, some rational dialog on America

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
--- Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Likewise, your bunching of groups into two political > categories, viz, liberals and conservatives is > overly simplistic. There are many of us who would > like to see social security, welfare, medicaid and > other excuses for excessive government s

[Goanet]Free Masons in Vatican

2005-06-16 Thread gwen white
Dear (Mogal) Goencars, On 14 June an article appeared in which he said that he was doing a research on Catholicism and came across infiltration of Masons in the Vatican. I would like to point out that Masons in the Vatican exists and is rife as of today. They are racist therefore there is no c

Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? What BULL----!

2005-06-16 Thread Alfred de Tavares
Dear Mr da Costa, I have refrained from replying you so far because a lot of views were coming in on the issue in hand. Since the flow has now abated, please allow me to respond you. From: "cornel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org To: Subject: Re: [Goanet]Willie, a casteist? Wha

[Goanet]Casimir Effect

2005-06-16 Thread Fr. Ivo Da C. Souza
From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sunday, June 05, 2005 9:16 AM Subject: [GoenchimXapotam] Re: Casimir Effect > > Dear Dr.Santosh, Sorry for the delay in replying, because I had no access to Internet since June 5. I was confused by being bombarded by Goench

[Goanet]Re: Home is where the heart is

2005-06-16 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
Revisiting this debate again, I don't quite agree with the Goa-is-best argument (or, subtle suggestion). If this were true, the general perception of the Goan Catholic (particularly) wouldn't see such a yawning gap between what we proclaim and what we practice. We wouldn't have had so many peop

[EMAIL PROTECTED] on the blink again.

2005-06-16 Thread Gabe Menezes
I have today got bounced emails from Sancharnet.in email addresses. Poor Goenkars having to put up with all this and incredibly slow speeds as well. Today I had a cold call from an Indian BPO offering me Bulldog's ( Cable and wireless) incredible 8 MB Broadband. I already have 1.5 MB Broadband, s

Re: [Goanet]Is Zubin Mehta really a Goan?

2005-06-16 Thread twiga
Mario, Most boys of the early 50`s who attended the Jesuit school St> Mary`s (Mazagaon) in Mumbai definitely know him as an alumni of that school and a member of the Parsi community.. After his music career shot him to conductorships in Europe ..he became conductor of t

[Goanet]Goanet News Bytes * June 15, 2005 * Monsoons... and GMC alumni

2005-06-16 Thread Goanet News Service
][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] G o a n e t - N e w s B y t e s JUNE 15, 2005 DATELINE: GOA / d8 Founded in 1994 e88~88e e88~-_/~~~8e 888-~88e e88~~8e _d88__ by Herman 888 888 d888 i

[Goanet]Airbus A380 for Kingfisher; Goa to London?

2005-06-16 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/jun/16mallya.htm Kingfisher to buy five A380s BS Corporate Bureau in New Delhi | June 16, 2005 09:41 IST Indian carriers grabbed the limelight at the Paris air how for the second consecutive day on Wednesday with Vijay Mallya's Kingfisher Airlines placing firm ord

[Goanet]Air Sahara to Fly to London.

2005-06-16 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://in.rediff.com/money/2005/jun/16sahara.htm Air Sahara to fly UK from Sept June 16, 2005 11:20 IST Air Sahara on Thursday announced its plans to fly daily services between Delhi and London from September-October this year and operate two Boeing-777s on this route. Air Sahara CEO Rono J Dut

[Goanet]Centenary Brochure Unveiled

2005-06-16 Thread rene barreto
Centenary Brochure Unveiled > http://www.nicentenary.com/MainEvents/slides/Centenary%20Brochure%20Unveiled.html rene 20th August 2005 GOAN SOLIDARITY DAY ===

[Goanet]Indigo a new Indian budget Airline?

2005-06-16 Thread Gabe Menezes
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4098906.stm Airbus wins $6bn order from India Fledgling Indian budget airline IndiGo has ordered 100 A320 jets from Airbus, the European planemaker said. Although Airbus did not reveal the agreed price, the catalogue value of the planes is $6bn (£3.29bn). I

[Goanet]The 1st GreenGoa Newsletter is Out!

2005-06-16 Thread MailingListClint!
Hello everybody at Goanet! The first GreenGoa newsletter is out. What is GreenGoa and this newsletter about? GreenGoa is an online forum open to anybody and everybody that care for Goa's environment. Here you can meet and talk, discuss and learn from each other and get closer in working towards t

[Goanet]Re: All Goa Computer Teacher's Assoc.

2005-06-16 Thread goasuraj
Our Ref: GSRP/EM/LF/GOG/06/05 June 16, 2005 To: Mr. Luizinho Faleiro, Education Minister, Government of Goa, Secretariat, Porvorim - Penha de Franca, Goa. MOST IMMEDIATE Dear Mr. Faleiro, Subject: All Goa Computer Teacher's Association - AGCTA. At the outset, the undersigned, on behalf of

Re: [Goanet]Konkani Ringtone-update

2005-06-16 Thread richard
Hi My cellphone number is 9422064895. Please send me the ringtone Moga zalem tem zaum... Thanks a lot. Richard Cabral - Original Message - From: JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 6:20 PM Subject: [Goanet]Konkani Ringtone-update > > Total requests so far 16 (

[Goanet]Amazing love story

2005-06-16 Thread Cynthia Fernandes
Dear Friends, This is a beautiful story... a bit long but worth the read.. If no time to read, print it and read it when time permits. Thanks for your patience. Cynthia (Happy Weekend) -- On my wedding day, I carried my wife in my arms. The bridal car stopped in front of our one-room

[Goanet]From around the Goanworld.

2005-06-16 Thread rene barreto
>From around the GOANWORLD. = What's ON - 01. 10AM. Saturday 18, June: [Global Aid Committee] GAC Walk-a-thon [Ile Charon - see map] The early birds are welcome to join in the GAC Walk-a-thon. [A good warm-up]. Please donate genoursly as all the money

[Goanet]Ghazals... on NPR

2005-06-16 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
NPR (National Public Radio, of the US) had this interesting programme with Kiran Ahluwalia on ghazals. Kiran went on to explain the meanings of her Urdu verse, suddenly extending the audience for an ancient form of music that is otherwise known only in north India, Pakistan and maybe Iran. Or a

[Goanet]RE: My mobile no. 00965-9489431(atanch pattoi)

2005-06-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
Atanch baim marlier atanch udok eta?? Atanch pattoi muntlear antanch pattounk eta? You pl wait for your turn. i have now put you last in the 'Q' Refund?? There is a cancellation charge of Rs.10 So you still want your Rs.5 back? if so, send me another Rs.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa & NRI re

Re: [Goanet]Home is where the heart is/Melinda Coutinho Powell

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
--- melinda Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Im must confess to being sentimental but not sly.I > dont think it is a bad thing to be sentimental. > No snide insinuations were made,just some "straight > from the heart" talk.Nothing is aimed /obviously > aimed at those who have primary homes else

[Goanet]Dual Citizenship: When ?

2005-06-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
Cabinet nod for dual citizenship` June 16, 2005 15:57 IST The Union Cabinet on Thursday gave its approval for amending the Citizenship Act 1955 to enable all persons of Indian origin who migrated to other countries after January 26, 1950 to acquire overseas citizenship of India. The cabinet

Re: [Goanet]Is Zubin Mehta really a Goan?

2005-06-16 Thread Mario Goveia
Carlos, At the risk of starting a new urban legend, I have heard that Zubin Mehta is already a bhatkar from Sangolda (just kidding, folks). --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mario, > > I heard Zubin Mehta also wants to be a Goan. What > qualifications are reqd to be a Goan? > > Carlos > > -Or

[Goanet]Subject: Re: Can we dump the legend, and keep the message

2005-06-16 Thread sandeep heble
(Mario Goveia wrote: ?Santosh, While no one should support spreading something that is false (there goes Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny), would it be possible for you to use your impressive ability to separate fact from fiction to not just debunk urban legends that may conclude with a socially re

[Goanet]NRIs' Dual Citizenship dream is now a reality

2005-06-16 Thread Edward
NRIs' Dual Citizenship dream is now a reality PTI[ THURSDAY, JUNE 16, 2005 04:51:35 PM ] NEW DELHI: The Union Cabinet on Thursday gave its approval for amending the Citizenship Act 1955 to enable all persons of Indian origin who migrated to other countries after January 26, 1950 to acquire ove

[Goanet]THE DA FONSECA CODE

2005-06-16 Thread Antonio Menezes
Igorjen bamon teca kelo ani vodlo bamon to zalo punn igorz nagoili connem ? padr vigaran ? chett ! to devache bhiranticho munis So how come mostly bamon families prospered during the Porguguese regime. Is there a symbologist among Goan catholics who could crack open a Pandora's box , I mean da

RE: [Goanet]Konkani Ring Tones -update 2

2005-06-16 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
Linobab, Please don't loose your patience; it's a beautiful gift. Joe, I believe, is busy scanning and uploading old as well as new photographs of tiatr personalities. Joebab, any more delay with the ring tone might have adverse effect on "Aitaracheo Kaskuleo". So, please leave everything and s

[Goanet]NIO, on the Goa March 2005 oil spill

2005-06-16 Thread Frederick Noronha
http://210.212.160.230/jsp/oilspill.jsp 23 March 2005 oil spill off Goa, India Oil has been spilled from an anchored vessel MV Maritime Wisdom on 23 March 2005 at around 1:30 am, Lat 15° 24'N; Long 73° 43'E. Initial position of the spill is shown in the figure below. A barge carrying iron ore

Re:[Goanet] In America, the crows stick to the garbage

2005-06-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Peter D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >No. I did not say that they are "very conservative". >Conservatives are recovering liberals (most of us >anyway). > If some liberals like you recovered to being conservatives than at least some liberals must be open-minded. Are you now as a conserva

[Goanet]Migration: Opportunities for children or wanderlust

2005-06-16 Thread Salus Correia
Cecil wrote: Just for the sake of friendly debate, which will perhaps leave all of us better informed, could you qualify the statement that you made of your children having an "advantage of choice as far as choice of careers go".. ___

RE: [Goanet]Willy without portfolio ??

2005-06-16 Thread D'Souza, Avelino
It seems, I may be wrong, that you have not followed what Willy said about Congress being more communal than BJP. In other words, BJP wants Willy to be CM by supporting NCP. By doing so, BJP will have a say in the day to day functioning of the government which is secondary to Parrikar's plan. Th

Re: [Goanet]Konkani Ring Tones -update 2

2005-06-16 Thread lino dourado
Dear Joe, Kindly return my demand draft no. 00965-9489431 of Rs 5 (Rupees five only)immediately. What is this? Fottoi?fottoi. How long I have to wait for your ring-tone? I am afraid. This is not a new SCAM Patience naslolo, Lino --- JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Receive 5 more toda

[Goanet]Home is where the heart is

2005-06-16 Thread Cecil Pinto
Mario Goveia wrote: While I fully agree that "Home is where the heart is", I'm getting a little fed-up with the sly sentimentality and the snide insinuations obviously aimed at those of us who have our primary homes elsewhere. Cecil: My sincere apologies if what I wrote came across that way. I w

[Goanet]Going off Goanet

2005-06-16 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
If mail from your inbox is bouncing, you could stop receiving Goanet. This happens because your address is shifted to the 'no-mail' list. If this happens to your address, please write in an tell us -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll switch you back. FN .

Re: Subject: Re: [Goanet]Engelbert Humperdinck - where is Santosh when we need him

2005-06-16 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mario, I heard Zubin Mehta also wants to be a Goan. What qualifications are reqd to be a Goan? Carlos Maybe a nanny who was a Goan? At least a school-teacher? What about having had a holiday in Goa three decades ago? After all, ZM is not just about any poverty-strike

RE: [Goanet]Willy without portfolio ??

2005-06-16 Thread Cip Fernandes
Carlos, << Willy will be the next CM of Goa and he will be a good one >> Could you please justify your statement with true premises? Your statement appears to be based either on assumptions well known to you or logical inconsistency. Further, I will appreciate your description of so-called "a g

Re: [Goanet]DVD's/VCD's/Video

2005-06-16 Thread Edward Verdes
There are some movies available at www.goa-world.com Anyone having the original video can convert the same to VCD, in this way one can have a clear copy. I also understand there are some softwares for converting audio cassettes into CD's. Some time back I had suggested the old Mandos' cassettes/C

[Goanet]Complain about B.S.N.L. billing strategy.

2005-06-16 Thread Anand Verlekar
Hello, I am Anand P. Verlekar, r/o. Prabhuwaddo, Calangute, Bardes, Goa. I would like to share my bad experience while dealing with BSNL Authorities. I have my residential telephone bearing no.2279162. The line is in my dad’s name. On 2t9 Apr’05 I had submitted an application with “Customer Servi

[Goanet]One state, one rate...

2005-06-16 Thread Frederick Noronha (FN)
BPL, the mobile company, is offering local dialling facilities within Maharashtra and Goa regions. So, making a call to anywhere in Maharashtra is just like making a local (mobile) call. While the lower rates are welcome, I guess the slogan it advertises under, 'One State, one rate' is unlikel

[Goanet]Konkani Ring Tones -update 2

2005-06-16 Thread JoeGoaUk
Receive 5 more today. Itlo temp tumi khuim aslim??? I hve not sent any ring tones to any one after the first 12. Please bear with me (very busy) u must be knowing why? Plus, it takes time to relocate sim card into another (older)phone etc TANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, A CUSTOMER SERVICES AGENT WI

Re:[Goanet] In America, the crows stick to the garbage

2005-06-16 Thread Marlon Menezes
--- Peter D'Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SH: > Who according to you is opposed to a free Iraq? One > who disagrees with the policies of the present U.S. > administration? > > PD'S: > This is not "according to me", sorry. Those opposed > to a free Iraq were ve

[Goanet]RO - RO for cars

2005-06-16 Thread Philip Thomas

[Goanet]LOW COST CARRIER BREAKS THRU PUNE"S DEFENCE CORDON

2005-06-16 Thread Philip Thomas
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1141962.cms Pune gets first no frill airlines SIDDHARTHA KASHYAP TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ TUESDAY, JUNE 14, 2005 03:58:07 PM ] Spice Jet flies to Goa too (since May 27) but the local media have not been able to come up with a similar covera

Re:[Goanet] Some pure baloney in American revisionist history

2005-06-16 Thread Santosh Helekar
--- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >You are free to believe any version you please, just >don't try to ram it down my throat when there are >other competing versions that I choose to believe >which make more sense to me. > Who is ramming anything down your throat? I do not just believ

[Goanet]Re: *** Goanet Reader -- Goan society, its future direction...

2005-06-16 Thread Philip Thomas
[June 15] You have identified five mega problems -- environmental degradation, unscrupulous politicians, inward migration, deterioration in education and drug abuse. Does everybody agree on these five or are there others which should also be included? Once we have a master list we have to prior

[Goanet]Home is where the heart is/Melinda Coutinho Powell

2005-06-16 Thread melinda Powell
Mario Goveia wrote"While I fully agree that "Home is where the heart is", I'm getting a little fed-up with the sly sentimentality and the snide insinuations obviously aimed at those of us who have our primary homes elsewhere. _